http://blogcritics.org/ A sinister cabal of superior bloggers on music, books, film, popular culture, politics, and technology - updated continuously. en Copyright 2005-2007 by the authors Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:44:39 EDT http://backend.userland.com/rss Blogcritics.org custom software http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706773 @amysusanne: Yeah, I don't watch Lost either - I rented the season one DVDs a while ago and got kinda bored (I know). So ditto, I just knew he was entertaining. @NLP: The Paley wouldn't have the rights to release on DVD anyway - that should be CBS. And since House is an NBC/Uni production airing on FOX ... well, you can always dream about it as a House extra! My long-wished for scenario is that all these unwanted pilots get put up on the network websites so we can judge for ourselves, and heck, they can get a few page views out of it. And watching the pilot, which I enjoyed tremendously, no, I didn't care about the plot ... because they didn't give me all that much to care about. But for a weekly series? I'd care. It probably would have died if it hadn't gotten stronger after the pilot, yet if it had lasted just long enough, Laurie might not have been available for House. 706773@blogcritics.org Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:44:39 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706768 "and if I'd known the moderators I would have picked Chuck over FNL for sure (it was a toss up for me)." i'm one of the very few people who don't watch "lost" (i know), but i knew he was entertaining and i was kind of excited to see him. he was funny and charming and weird enough to make me actually want to suck it up and put his show in the netflix queue. 706768@blogcritics.org Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:55:37 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706512 Thanks so much for that wonderful review. But did you really care about the plot?! Heck, seeing Hugh being witty & debonair on screen AND with his English accent?! That's plenty for me (although I definitely am not the type to reflect the views of 30 million viewers.) Too bad, I assume, that the center is not for profit. Given the tremendous worldwide popularity of Hugh Laurie right now, I would think putting The Dragans on tape/DVD would be an excellent seller. Hey, I know -- Since House's season was cut short, they owe us more on the 4th Season DVD - negotiate for the rights and add the Dragans to the DVD! That would satisfy me. (Anyone want to bet whether the price for the House 4th Season DVD is going to be any less than the other 3? The pricing hasn't even been announced yet, but I'm already ticked off about it.) 706512@blogcritics.org Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:47:30 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706179 Yeah, I'm not a real fan of FNL either. Paley happened to coincide with my vacation so while I'm always up for some tv geekery, there were no panels I was dying to see while I was there. I was at the Judd Apatow one too and much more excited to see that one though. I was really sad to miss Pushing Daisies - it was a day early for me - and if I'd known the moderators I would have picked Chuck over FNL for sure (it was a toss up for me). Who knew about the "large doses" thing. I guess that's the secret to people who are too "on" for me in their usual small doses. 706179@blogcritics.org Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:53:50 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706144 i wasn't at FNL. i'm not a regular viewer, so i didn't plan the trip around that one. if "mad men" or "dirty sexy money" had been that night i totally would have called in fake sick to extend my vacation week, though. {g} and if i'd had the foresight, i would have bought the premium package (though i'm not entirely sure that the fangirl side of me would have been able to handle being at the apatow party...she probably would have had to leave quickly) and sold the buffy ticket. that could have financed the whole trip! my priority was the apatow panel and the fact that "chuck" and "pushing daisies" (both of which i love) were bookended there, i was in tv heaven. like you with ausiello (and i completely understand that one), i've never been shy in whining about how much kristen dos santos annoys me, but i wound up being surprised by the decent job she did. it was sort of the opposite of the whole "small doses" thing because apparently in order to make me like kristen you need to give me *more* of her. go figure. i enjoyed, her. i enjoyed damon lindelof's moderation of the "chuck" panel so much more, though. god, he was hilarious. of all of the panels i've seen, whether at paley or elsewhere, "chuck" is the first one that i think i would actually make a point of going to the museum and sitting through again in its entirety. 706144@blogcritics.org Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:31:23 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706111 I'll take a crack at answering this since I wrote the original piece and I don't believe Barbara has seen Dragans ... I thought he was at ease in the role but I could have seen any number of actors doing it well, too, unlike House. In fact, William Powell did a pretty good job in the original :) There was nothing incredible about this pilot, but it was likeable and charming, and some of that was the acting and some was the writing. I wouldn't call it Laurie's fault that the father in Stuart Little, for example, wasn't as indelible a character as House, either. So much of what makes an actor pop in a role is a combination of the right actor for the right role plus the right writing, and too often fans forget that last part. Even the best actors can only do so much with weak writing. And even the best have a certain range, and I think Maybe Baby, for example, fell outside his comfort zone. It doesn't take anything away from his acting chops to say that some of his past performances have not been the right marriage of actor with role - that's true of any actor, from Lawrence Olivier to Carrot Top. With House as well as Fry & Laurie, Blackadder, and Jeeves & Wooster, he's proven that with the right material, his range extends from heartbreaking drama to silly comedy, but it would be ridiculous to think he could do every kind of role equally well, particularly when an actor has only so much control in the creative process. 706111@blogcritics.org Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:10:37 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-706108 Barbara, I have a question about this pilot. I have seen Hugh Laurie's comedy, House, MD, and some of his other "in between" movies. These include Maybe Baby, Girl from Rio, Stuart Little, and 101 Dalmations. Hugh is superb at the extremes, but average in the middle. No one but Hugh could create a character as unforgettable and incredible as House. No one could have played the comedic roles Hugh has played in ABOF&L, Blackadder, and Jeeves and Wooster. But others could have easily played the father in Stuart Little, the downtrodden banker in Girl from Rio, etc. I don't see those roles he played as memorable. I perceive Hugh has more problem acting "average" than he does acting "incredible." So, where in this continuum does this pilot fall? Is Hugh "at ease" in this role? Is he on the "incredible" end or the "average" end? Do you think it makes a difference if he is playing an American or if he is British when he is acting? How do you think he would be the same or different if he played this role as an American? 706108@blogcritics.org Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:53:45 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705741 Maximum Bob, I forgot about that show but loved what little I saw it - I only clearly remember the mermaid now, though, not her. Were you at FNL? I was dreading a little too much of the moderator/fan but Ausiello was better than I expected. If Peoria has a tv festival, I'm there :) 705741@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:57:52 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705704 >>amysusanne = rainbows + sunshine? My brain does not compute :) << seriously, what the hell? i wonder, looking back on those optimistic days, what could have possibly gone wrong with me. {g} next time i go on a vacation, whether it's LA or peoria, i'll let you know just in case! as for liz vassey: i love her. she's so much fun and so underrated. have you ever seen "maximum bob"? awesome show, awesome cast, cruelly murdered by ABC in a summer time period. i actually wound up watching an episode the week of the "house" paley panel because the moderator (and how great was it to have actually moderators this year who were fans, btw?) teased about "dragans..." being added to the collection. evil man. since it wasn't there yet and i had already psyched myself into watching television for two hours, i got the MB pilot and it was as wonderful as it was the first time. 705704@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:47:58 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705695 At last, someone speaks up on the Liz Vassey side of the fandom. I only knew her from The Tick but she was great. Made me wonder what ever happened to her ... and then I saw from imdb she's doing very well, thank you very much, just on shows I don't watch. Oh, and Boffle, don't think that didn't cross my mind (camera phone), but those Paley people were so darn nice, I couldn't have done it even if I'd had the guts. 705695@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:56:06 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705687 Liz Vassey. Sigh. 705687@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:41:16 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705677 amysusanne = rainbows + sunshine? My brain does not compute :) I wish I'd known *you* were going to be in LA - I think we were both there a couple of years ago for the House session, too. Some day maybe we'll coordinate schedules! 705677@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:18:52 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705670 i remember sending a giddy email out to friends when this pilot was bought. the same email had me all fangirly over the new judd apatow pilot, which had also been given the go ahead. obviously neither went anywhere, but i recall naively saying that i was happy that they were in the hands of fox and cbs (even though fox was royally screwing "undeclared" around the time i made that comment). on DoNY i said, quote unquote (because it's archived on our yahoogroup): "and hugh laurie...well, that's always good news. i'd say that his show has the best shot out of the three, what with cbs being a little more open to giving things a shot these days." whatever drugs i was taking, i wish i still had some. my world was clearly full of nothing but rainbows and sunshine. {g} i loved this show for it's simplicity and sweetness and screwball nature, but it never would have worked. since finally getting to see it a year or two back, though, i think it would make a very cute romantic comedy film (tv film?), but it's possible that my love of both hugh and liz (and it was pretty sweet to see richard kind in there!) and my disapointment that nobody's been able to pull off something as basic as this in a long time is clouding my judgement. i wish i'd known you were going to be out in LA for the paleyfest. i caught a couple of panels and would have liked to have finally gotten to say "hi" in person. then again, i'm in my own little world, so even if you'd flown a banner over my house saying you'd be there, it probably would have passed me right by. :-) 705670@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:26:07 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705665 Oh, deekay, I am so jealous! Would that someone would go in to that viewing booth with a camera phone and a wireless connection! (just kidding) The tiny clips we have all seen seem quite promising and I very much liked your description of the pilot. I'd love to see it myself, but I'm so glad you did and wrote about it for us: this is one of my holy grails too. (Also, I wonder if the title was a bit of reference to his alma mater of early days, the Dragon School?) Laurie by Laurie sounds like a great show and one we'd all love to see: TPTB, listen up! But of course House is both an iconoclastic and iconic show, the likes of which you don't see everyday, or even hardly ever, so it's great that that turned out as it did. And yay for The Gunseller on the big screen! 705665@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:29:27 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705662 Amen to that sister! I had the opportunity to view Dragans while in LA awhile ago and I agree with you 100%. I loved it, it was fun and witty but I walked away thinking if I were a TV exec I wouldn't have picked it up either. Not all pilots are knock-your-socks-off great but there should be a strong foundation in the stories that can be built on. I don't feel Dragans had that. Could it have with time and work? Maybe, but I'm with you in thanking the TV gods for letting this slide and giving us House instead. Here's to hoping that when House is finished (in 50 years...) and Hugh has done a few movies, finished his second novel, and had a obscenely long vaction, that he will once again dip his toes in the pool of American television in the writing/directing/acting capacity and come away with a winner. That is of course after they get "The Gunseller" on the big screen! 705662@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:04:45 EDT http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/28/072520.php#comment-705660 Jealous does not even begin to describe. Besides a couple of "you-tubish" scenes, of course I've never had the fortune to see this lost little gem (gem-ette?). Even if this never really sees the light of day, I do wonder, given that Laurie has a screenplay (Gunseller) sitting in MGM's vaults and this to his credit, if he hasn't some sort of development deal for his post-House days? Thanks for sharing. 705660@blogcritics.org Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:52:24 EDT