To my grave disappointment, Hillary and her disbarred hubby have been lying with less and less style as their campaign slips into panic.

I once wrote :

In my lifetime I've had the privilege of watching Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and Michael Jordan play basketball, Wayne Gretzky play hockey, Muhammed Ali box, Tom Seaver pitch, Tiger Woods golf.

And I've heard the Clintons lie.

Greatness comes in many forms.

I guess, like aging boxers who stay in the ring after their skills are gone, the Clintons are sliding into pugsville.

It's so sad.

Great comment Tony! Kudos!!!

Good article. Good response, Tony.

Looks like the wheels are coming off the Clinton Campaign Machine.

Are you sure that's you, Bliffle? You seem to have switched sides.

Dave

Clinton also lied about what Obama actually said about Ronald Reagan.

Clinton even lied for years about being named after Sir Edmund Hilary.

Maybe it's us. After all, we didn't know what the meaning of "is" is, so maybe we just don't understand what "landing under sniper fire" really means to a Clinton.

There was sniper fire...it was bill shooting at her!!

No more lying in the campaign. If you cannot say the truth, give up.

Or saying as Obama has.."I was for the racists Rev. Wright before I was against him, but Ill always support him."

JOM

^ JOM, here's another great saying;

"Obama is the best the Dumbocrats have had in years..and in fact if it comes down to him and "The Angry Old White Man" McCain -- I WILL BE VOTING FOR OBAMA...."

"I was against the affirmative action cappuccino candidate, before i was for him, but after I was against him" JOM

More Clinton lies surfaced today when she had to admit that she'd been lying for years about landing in Bosnia in a plane that was under enemy fire. Naver happened.

I'd call her condition pathological.

An odd thing about the pathological. In many cases they'd lie when the truth would do just as good.

Makes Dick Morris more credible.

Although, she could have been the target of a sniper, with a silencer, who missed, and now she's forced to own a slipped truth that seems like a lie because the CIA doesn't want her to expose a botched security detail.

"More Clinton lies surfaced today when she had to admit that she'd been lying for years about landing in Bosnia in a plane that was under enemy fire. Naver happened."
- Lumpy

And yet she still got closer to combat than many of the phony chickenhawks, like Sean Hannity, Ted Nugent, Laura Ingram and Dick Cheney.

Where did Obama serve??

^ Obama has always been against the invasion and occupation of Iraq...unlike the chickenhawks.

My guess is that in any current word association game, the word most likely to be associated with the Democrat party would "Implode."

"You know, I think that, a minor blip, you know, if I said something that, you know, I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so, if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement." Yes, we know.

Senator Clinton didn't even acknowledge until later today that she actually "misspoke," let alone lied. She then blamed it on being only human and on sleep deprivation.

Of course Senator Clinton lied. And cows give milk, and pork comes from pigs. Her attempts to get around the fact that she lied, willfully, knowingly and to enhance her resume' to help her prospects of nomination, just don't wash.

That disturbs me.

What disturb me even more, however, are some of the blog responses (elsewhere, not here so far) to the context. They basically fall into two categories:

1. The people who are complaining are wicked males, who can't abide the possibility of a woman becoming president.

2. Senator Clinton has no monopoly on untruth. Others are just as bad if not worse, particularly Senator Obama.

Point one is, I think absurd. It has not been my experience that women are any more tolerant of lies than men; it is not necessary to be a male chauvinist pig to be offended by blatant lies.

Point two perhaps has more substance, but not much. Senator Obama clearly has his problems. However, I think that his recent race speech was pretty good. It didn't completely lay to rest for me the issues concerning his association with the Reverend Mr. Wright, but it was at least an honest, thoughtful attempt and came pretty close to the mark.

A "dream ticket," or "nightmare ticket," with Senator Clinton as the presidential candidate and Senator Obama as the vice presidential candidate, or vice versa, appears to have gone down in flames, which is probably a good thing. If so, it may well be the only good thing to have emerged from the current debacle. Unless, of course, one would like Senator McCain to become President McCain, a question with which I intend to grapple latter, during the general election process.

Dan Miller

Where did Obama serve??

Perhaps we should support Pete Sampras for President. He's served all over the world.

...or any waiter or waitress...

Where did Obama serve besides the tennis balls he served at the elite private schools he attended while experience the "pain, hoplessness and despair of his fellow Afrikan Americans and not the Martinis he served to his buddy Rezko while Rezko was a slum lord ripping off Obama's own Afrikan America constituents?

Where did Obama serve?

JOM

"Hi, I'm Hillary and I'll be your server tonight."

JOM, I suppose I shouldn't expect any better from you, but this blatant making up of slurs and lies about Obama has to be called out.

To set the record straight: Obama did not serve martinis to Tony Rezko while the latter ripped off his tenants.

They were margaritas.

I stand corrected!

Well ill admit Obama did serve the Americam people a big pile of shit in his " I have a scheme speech" by making excuses for himself and his good buddy Rev Wright the racist ...

JOM

JOM, Nowhere in his sermons did Rev. Write say that people of African decent were in any way superior to any other ethnic group.

Or that any other ethnic group was inferior, or deserved punishment or violence perpetrated against it.

He simply stated that wrongs have been done, and that there are still problems in America that need addressing.

How is that racist?

"Hi, I'm Hillary and I'll be your server tonight."

If that happens, it will be a long and unhappy night in America.... heh!

Al Gore to the rescue?
Not too long ago, an NBC reporter [ Ann Curry ] asked Gore if he would jump in the game and run for president. Gore didn't want to answer the qestion. But I think a yes or a no, in politics is pretty much the same as a probably. And since presidents are just figureheads anyway, mouthpieces for the corpo/conservative, and less then half the American people actually voted last time around, I think we kinda figured it out. Politics doesn't work for the little guy.

Here is an URL I just can't resist posting. It features the (now retired) officer who piloted the aircraft on which Senator Clinton flew into harms way in Bosnia, according to her war story.

By the way, the difference between a fairy tale and a war story is that a fairy tail begins "Once upon a time... " A war story begins, "Now you ain't gonna believe this shit, but..."

Enjoy.

Dan Miller

Jeffry,

Based on the extraordinary turnouts for the Democrat primaries and caucuses, my crystal ball hints that the turnout for this general election may well exceed that in the past. We'll see.

Also, Mr. Gore is far too busy with global warming (or perhaps smarming, if that is a word -- my spell checker doesn't recognize it) to consider such an insignificant position as President of the United States.

Dan Miller

I still remember when the MSM was warming up to the possible investigation of the Florida/Bush (tossing out half-million votes) team conservative connections. Finally going over what what seemed like a stolen election, when 9/11 took it out.

Since then, the theme has been one divertion after the other by a more obvious in-your-face ("So") fleecer government. The hardcore media pimps and shifty eye'd pretenders are working double time in the shill department.

Here are some or Wrights words of motivation....


"Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that." ummm...er...Reverend...Barack was raised by rich whites and is also a rich 1/2 white controlling this country.

"We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God" Rev Wright

nuff said...

JOM

If your quote is correct, it's not racist, just provocative.

Now if he implied that HIS ethnic group was superior, and another group was inferior, I would say it was a racist comment.

As you quote him, he is generalizing about the prevailing attitudes of the American people, and even quoted out of context it's far from racist or hate speech.

I don't agree that most people feel that way, but enough do that it's still an issue, especially if one is on the receiving end of it.

Do you really understand what racism is?

Bennett...

"Most people know what it means living in a country and a culture that is in a state of deterioation due to lazy black people"

"We believe in black supremacy and white inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God"

Is this racists?

JOM

JOM,

Well, which version of the quote is accurate? You give me two different versions of a quote, the first is not racist, the second version is (if spoken by a "black".

The new quote "...lazy black people" is not racist if one is a black man talking about his own ethnic group.

Please provide a link to a reputable source of these quotes. You are obviously not copy/pasting as the quote changed 180 degrees between your two comments...

Are you paraphrasing?

Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.

Who would vote for someone that stole all the white house furniture and fought for walmart to rob Americans. Hillary's a thief and should be arrested. President? Give me a break White water, SnL, drug laundring, stock scams, claiming bankruptcy's with millions stashed in swiss banks and begging Americans to pay thier lawyer bills for lieing to the American people. The fact that anyone believes her bold face lies makes me vomit.

"Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"
-Hillary Rodham Clinton, 2000

Truth is, Hillary Clinton lies. Mr. and Mrs. Clinton's list of lies will provide journalistic fodder for decades. However, thanks to DNA, Internet, and other technologies, many of their misdeeds have already come to light, with more on the way. Although the Clintons continue to lie, thank goodness for that. She's going to get caught; just you wait and see: link.

Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats.

Now there's a source of legitimate authority.

The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus,

Technically Habeas Corpus was never suspended for the general population and the instances where it could be suspended require very specific conditions to pertain.

detaining protesters, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon,

Odd, they've got it available there for $7.65, and if you read the reviews and comments there's info that the rumor of a 'ban' is just a scam to sell this piece of tripe.

Typical Paulbot garbage.

Dave

Yep, Ron Paul ...

He's really going to save America. How exactly, no one's sure, but he is ...

It's much easier now that he hasn't clinched the Republican nomination. Now, he can quietly fix things while nobody pays attention.

If anyone wants a quick giggle, I saved this article to my hard drive a few months ago, knowing that it would be good for a laugh once the fat lady had sung but fairly certain that once reality hit it would be taken down. Surprisingly, though, it's still online. It explains with unintentional hilariousness, primary by primary, exactly how Ron Paul was certain to win the Republican nomination.

Well...having watched this circus, I can now firmly say that Hillary isn't as smart a liar as her husband. Bill managed to choose a lie that, while it created a huge thunder of scandal, actually made him look pretty good to his chosen base of support.

Hillary, on the other hand, chose a lie that was obvious, confirmable, examinable, and absolutely a LIE. The kind of lies that paper-shufflers try to tell in VFW halls, the kind of lies that guys who never WENT ANYWHERE try to tell to look good. PX Ranger lies-the worst kind if you're trying to pick up cred.

All in all, one wonders if Hillary wasn't trying to HELP Obama during his time of need by deliberately blowing it in a way that any IDIOT could uncover.

mind-boggling.

Fantastic Doc.

Last paragraph: "Ron Paul will win by landslide".

Wonder what kind of egg he's got on his face.

Fried, scrambled or boiled?

Here's another cute Hillary Clinton story.

It seems that Senator Clinton claimed to encounter racial prejudice during a soccer game back when she was in junior high school, at a time when there were no girl's soccer teams at her school. According to Dick Morris,

"'During a junior high school soccer game" on a cold day, Hillary claimed "a goalee told her 'I wish people like you would freeze.'" Stunned, the future first lady asked how she could feel that way when she did not even know her. "I don't have to know you," the goalee shot back, "to know I hate you."

The article doesn't quote anything exactly saying that she was actually playing soccer, but the impression seems to have been that she was. Perhaps she meant to say that the met the goalee during a break in the game at a refreshment stand. I don't know, and don't much care.

The point of the article seems to be that this was a "so what," and it probably was, but that it fuels the fire in which Senator Clinton is self-immolating. There have been other non-exhaustive compendiums of Senator's economy efforts with the truth, but I think the point has been made. She is a chronic liar, and "truth" is whatever the current audience will accept.

That's bad enough in a first lady. In a president, it would be a disaster.

Dan Miller

PS to the editor: in one of my previous posts, you managed to fix the URL reference so that it was incorporated in the text by changing the related text color. I would like to do that, to save you the bother, but don't know how. Perhaps others have the same problem, and a short note on how to do it would be useful. Thanks.

Dan

Dan, formatting links correctly is really easy. To learn this vital skill, please visit the following link - How to Format a Link.

It's key to select relevant text for the link, so it makes sense as above. It's always a bad idea to use general terms like "here", "click here" or "link".

Chrisopher Rose,

Many thanks.

Dan Miller

The battle fire lie? No, not really a lie. Sure, she is briefed by secret service about the threat of sniper fire, etc.

Though at best she may have actually heard standard military activity noises in the background, knowing that there is a real possibility of sniper fire, wouldn't that put some sort of thought of reality in your head at the time? Being vulnerable as a Presidents wife being a USA representative?

Yeah, it was more real than appears in video, etc. There is a threat of her getting her head blown off by a high powered military style rifle. It just goes with the territory in the world of elected/appointed leadership. It is a dangerous game.

So, let Hillary off the hook on that one...

politics,
DM

DM,

I don't know whether you are serious or simply pulling our chains.

Whatever briefing Senator Clinton may have received, and whatever her accurate recollections of hearing "standard military activity noises in the background," may have been, her story about the tarmac greeting ceremony having been canceled and having had to run for cover from the aircraft to a safe place indoors was, quite simply, a lie. There are numerous other examples, some of them less egregious, but I am concerned that many of them may well be indicative of a serious medical problem.

Senator Clinton is a very intelligent person, at least so we are told. A very intelligent, but undisturbed, person would not knowingly and frequently tell lies while knowing that they were lies, and knowing that they could easily be shown to be just that. A very intelligent pathological liar or a very intelligent sociopath very well might.

An old test of the insanity defense in a criminal proceeding was whether the crime would have been committed had there been a policeman at the defendant's elbow at the time. If so, the defendant probably had an irresistible impulse or was unable to distinguish right from wrong, sufficient to negate the requisite criminal intent. That seems apposite here.

Lacking any qualifications in the field of psychiatry, I don't know whether Senator Clinton can accurately be classified as a pathological liar (a lengthy and scholarly, but none the less fascinating, piece on pathological lying) or as a sociopath. Perhaps someone out there with the necessary professional qualifications can provide an answer.

Leaving aside the possibility of mental illness, if Senator Clinton misconstrued security briefings, and "standard military activity noises in the background," as you suggest, for something quite different, and much more threatening, one can only be very, very fearful of putting her in the position of answering the White House phone at 3:00 AM and letting her fantasies run wild.

Surely, there must be someone out there with the appropriate professional qualifications to speak to these concerns.

Dan Miller

Yeah, I know. the accurate recollection of true incident. what ever the deal is, i guess she just wasn't mentally prepared for whatever.

I hope she is now. I would hate to have to deal with her if involved in a bumperthumper auto wreck."ma'am, what happened?" asks the officer. Hillary screams.

Anyway, I know. the whole thing still doesn't look that great. Not as bad as being made out to be though.

best,
DM

Oh no. She is not a sociopath. I have thought about that as it can be said that the operations of the government are sociopathic in nature. (I read this interesting article, wish I still had the web address for you. Valid and interesting).

But as far as Hillary goes, no, she is not clinically a sociopath. I have watched her as a personality with such knowledge of traits in mind (I've done some study on the subject, being from Ted Bundy territory...). Anyway, no, she does not meet the criterea to be labeled 'sociopath'.

It looks like a case of 'blowing off' certain attacks with whatever is convenient at the moment.
"what about that airfield" asks the reporter. "oh man, guns and everything! Next question." says Hillary.

whatever it is. It ain't that big a deal.
DM

I asked a good friend and former next-door-neighbor, who is incidentally a respected psychiatrist, whether he considered Senator Clinton a pathological liar or sociopath. He declined to opine professionally, without adequate in depth analysis. He did, however, offer the following observation:

"I will hazard this citizen's commonsense observation: she sure stepped on her crank (if she had one!?)!"

I can't fault that sort of analysis.

Dan Miller