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Comment by Dave Nalle on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:56:19 EDT

Krutic, the passport story was also stupid and pointless and involved nothing even vaguely controversial much less criminal. dave

Comment by Krutic A on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:07:51 EDT

Isnt it curious how the passport story disappeared from the news as soon as it was revealed that the contractors who breached the files were actually working for a company whose CEO is an Obama consultant? If there was anyone that doubted that the media is in the tank for Obama - this is a clear indication of that fact.

Comment by Condor on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:47:43 EDT

I was thinking just the other day that Obama may not have even been a contender if Ryan did not have to reveal his divorce papers... remember the husband of Jeri Ryan (aka 7 of 9), who divorced him because he wanted to perform sex with her in very public places... well, the papers are made public, Ryan resigns from the campaign, Keyes takes the podium and Obama wins 70% of the vote. Wow, deja vu, all over again. Didn't similar escapades (i.e. sexual scandle)reduce Bill Clinton's public stature? Da' rest is history; ain't it the truth? Right Spitzer? As Jimma' Swaggart used to say "let us pray."

Comment by Dan Miller on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:14:13 EDT

Zedd, I am afraid that I have come to the conclusion that the phrase "honest politician" is and has long been an oxymoron. While a great president, FDR had his problems with truth and with traditional moral behavior. I understand that when he died, he was in the company of a woman not his wife. President Truman, whose popularity ratings at the end of his term of office were even lower than those of our current president, was a product of the Pendergast machine. His failings notwithstanding, I consider him one of our best presidents, certainly during my lifetime. The choice, unfortunately, is between lesser evils. In the present contest, my response to your earlier question presents my view that Senator Clinton is the greater evil. I think that, his flaws notwithstanding, Senator Obama is the lesser evil. I sense that he was at least trying, subject to obvious political constraints, to be honest in his racial issues speech. I can't imagine Senator Clinton making a similar effort in any context. Will I vote for Obama if he is the Democrat nominee? I don't know. I have never voted for a Democrat. This may be the first time. Let's wait and see what happens once Obama and McCain face of in the general election, as I think they will. Dan Miller

Comment by Zedd on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:50:33 EDT

Dan, Which modern day politicians do you deem honest?

Comment by bliffle on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:31:27 EDT

I don't think Clintons judgement is good. On 3 occasions (at least) she didn't study the issues and alternatives and solicit information and opinions: 1-the 1993 healthcare plan where she assumed existing healthcare ins. cos. would have to survive intact. 2-the AUMF, when she didn't read the NIE 3-the Iran AUMF, when she didn't read the NIE. In each case , I believe, instead of investigating and then making a good decision she substituted political advantage for forethought. Pretty cynical. And the irony is that she lost her supporters in each case without securing new supporters. Another mistake in judgement. Plus, now that I see her campaign, I have further reservations about her judgement since she seems to be taking a Rule Or Ruin approach that may deprive her party of an election win. That's dumb. In office, would she do something contrary to the best interests of the USA just to secure her personal power?

Comment by Dan Miller on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:27:03 EDT

Good question, Zedd Part of it is plain old fashioned gut feeling: "I do not like thee, Doctor Fell. The reason why, I cannot tell. But this I know and know full well, I do not like thee, Doctor Fell." I do not like her, I do not trust her, and I do not want another round of the "Clinton Team" in the White House. However, it goes beyond mere gut feeling and visceral distaste. I acknowledge that my gut feelings and visceral distaste color my views, but that is a common failing. Having watched how incompetently Senator Clinton's campaign has been run, I think she would be an incompetent executive. Strategic and tactical blunders have continued from "day one," due to flattering but erroneous initial perceptions of her inevitable success as nominee. Her campaign staff appear to have been consistently out of touch with themselves and with reality, and to some extent with Senator Clinton as well. The in-fighting has been remarkable. The President needs to have consummate management skills, and Senator Clinton seems to lack them. FDR had unusual, but quite effective, management skills which he exercised very well in extraordinarily difficult circumstances. In some cases, he relished in-fighting, but used it as a management tool. Sometimes he intentionally used ambiguously defined areas of responsibility to encourage in- fighting, because he knew that he could control it and use it to produce good results. If Senator Clinton could travel back in time and replace Vice President Truman when FDR died, would she have been "ready on day one" to take over? Vice President Truman did very well, even though he had been kept completely in the dark on many important happenings, e.g., the atomic bomb. I cannot conceive of Senator Clinton doing as well. Senator Clinton seems to take seriously Mark Twain's sarcastic observation that the truth is very dear, and thus should be used sparingly. I could provide a long list, but won't bother. Here are just a couple: She stoutly proclaimed that she had opposed NAFTA early on. However, that seems to be untrue, based on her recently and reluctantly released schedules. She claimed substantial responsibility for bringing peace to Ireland, but that claim now appears, generously, to have been highly exaggerated. Her other various claims of high level responsibility during President Clinton's time in office now seem to be equally disingenuous. Aside from her botched health care work early during President Clinton's first term -- which might well have presaged her executive abilities more recently demonstrated during the present campaign -- she appears to have functioned as first lady, and little more. Perhaps one day someone will write a scholarly thesis comparing Senator Clinton's time as first lady with that of Eleanor Roosevelt as first lady. Somehow, I think Mrs. Roosevelt would be shown as having been much more active for good than was Senator Clinton. Mrs. Johnson did a very good job as first lady in beautifying Washington D.C. and in other first lady activities; I do not recall anyone suggesting that she would on that account make a good president. I simply do not believe that the truth is in Senator Clinton. Compromise does not seem to be one of Senator Clinton's strong points. Even if she could grow to be a competent executive, I do not think that she could be effective in her relations with the Congress. For the same reason and others, I think that her foreign policy would be a disaster. Perhaps none of these perceived defects alone would be disqualifying. All of them put together suggest to me that Senator Clinton would be an incompetent executive and a very poor president. Dan Miller

Comment by Douglas Mays on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:22:52 EDT

Zedd, yeah, I vote for Hillary also. The problem is that Obama is a guy...black or white, he still is male...

Comment by Zedd on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:49:48 EDT

Dan Miller, Why won't you vote for Clinton. You were quite vocal about your thoughts on this author's assessment on why Clinton is wrong for this moment. Why do you think she is not good for the job?

Comment by Pablo on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:00:09 EDT

Dave re post 23 The socialism to which you refer in my opinion has nothing to do with the left per se. That is just how it appears to the un-informed. Both the left and the right are controlled by EXACTLY the same people, bar none. That is what you fail to see. You think the socialist battle is being fought between mules and elephants of various hues. It is not, the same people that control Bush's cabinet, will control Obama's or Hilary's. It is ONE big happy family, as shown by elder Bush's bosom buddy relationship with Clinton. I do however think that you and I put different labels on it. You call it socialism, I call it the New World Order. In either case it represents totalitarianism, I think you would agree. The whole purpose of the left/right paradigm is to keep people separated politically while the sharks eat the fish. I am surprised you do not see this, and continue to sit on your "right" side of the fence.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:59:59 EDT

@ #24: Contrary to any previous impression one might have gotten, apparently Arch does have a sense of humor.

Comment by Douglas Mays on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:45:44 EDT

Ugh! Well, the drummer of a punk rock band I was putting on stage last month said it well. Their singer was really drunk. He said she was "Obomba'd" Yeah, it seems like the politics of it all has us obomba'd... we'll just see how the game plays out. what is real, what is illusion? They don't even know... DM

Comment by Arch Conservative on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:39:01 EDT

Yeah Nalle and the Osama Obama Lemings. Nothing's shinier than an emtpy platitude one word catch phrase during an election season. Hope. Change. No thanks.

Comment by bliffle on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:57:58 EDT

That oughta work. He's shown before that he can be hypnotized by bright shiny objects.

Comment by Arch Conservative on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:53:33 EDT

"There has to come a point in this election when issues begin to get discussed and once you get past the rhetoric and the oratory, Obama's extreme socialist beliefs" Dave....stare into the spinning pinwheel I have in my hand for a moment..... Change..... vision....... Obama...... yes we can....hope...... change you can believe in.....you want to vote for Barack Obama.......change............audacity of hope.......you're excited by Barack Obama's vision for change...........si se puede........change......you will vote for Barack Obama......change........pay no attention to the crazy pastor behind the curtain....hope.......Barack Obama will bring about racial harmony and world peace.....change......hope......Obama

Comment by Dave Nalle on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:03:25 EDT

More nonsense from the Nalle file. The number of crossover Republicans in the primaries is not entirely known, but it's not enough to swing an election in the fall. And quite a few of those folks actually like and support the guy...what makes you so sure they'll switch back? Hell, I like Obama. So? There has to come a point in this election when issues begin to get discussed and once you get past the rhetoric and the oratory, Obama's extreme socialist beliefs aren't going to be acceptable to moderates much less anyone who isn't in the GOP by pure accident. Dave

Comment by Clavos on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:39:06 EDT

Good comment, Dan, especially about the speech. It was a hell of a good oration, and may wind up being the final nail in HRC's coffin.

Comment by Dan Miller on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:19:13 EDT

The article, and most of the comments posted concerning it, are disappointing. Had the article been set to rap "music," it might have been entertaining. It wasn't, and it isn't. I will ignore the attacks on President Bush (who, by the way, is not running for office) as irrelevant tripe. It would be fun to counter them, but it is not worth the effort. All I will say is that adjectives must very inexpensive, and to paraphrase Mark Twain, Truth is very dear and must, therefore, be used sparingly. I will also ignore the article's comparisons between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama -- most of which would be relevant to a vote for the "Queen for a Day" or the "Survivor," except to note that tactics (as distinguished from strategy) during a political campaign have very little to do with the subsequent performance of the winner. Having said that, permit me to make my present intentions clear: I would never vote for Senator Clinton, even if all the angels in Heaven were to rest upon her shoulder and proclaim her a saint. I might vote for Senator Obama, and I might vote for Senator McCain. I will decide that question once they have done combat. What is most disturbing are the comments on Senator Obama's 18 March address on racism in America. Had I simply read the short sound bites concerning the speech and the short snippets of his preacher's hate filled monologues, I would probably have agreed with many of those comments. Senator Obama said something quite similar about his preacher's diatribes -- if all he knew were what was poorly sketched in the press, he would not only disavow and disparage his preacher's comments, he would disown him. Obama went on to say that while he strongly disagreed the the preacher's wrong headed, harmful and divisive racist diatribes, there was more to the man than that. Having read the entire Obama speech, I can only conclude that most of the comments here are based solely on short sound bites and preconceptions reinforced by them. Read the entire 18 March speech. Think about what he says. There IS a racial divide in the U.S., and it is harmful to all of us. Obama is the first politician I have heard acknowledge this problem articulately, and to acknowledge that the blame lies on both whites and blacks; he may have hurt himself tactically or even strategically by doing so. But read the entire speech. Please. This is too important to rely solely on press snippets. Dan Miller

Comment by Zedd on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:07:06 EDT

Adam, You zeroed in again. I however think that part of Hillary's problem is that she is playing the game to hard. Come to think of it perhaps you are saying the same thing. She is obvious. The platitudes of the CEO worshiping, type A era are now flat. She is still stuck in that world. In my career, statements like "I'll make it happen" rule(d). Whether the evidence exists that whatever endeavor is plausible is never the point, it's just that one must sound as if they are capable. It is the mastery of this non-speak that illuminates the cream of the crop. Silver tongued incompetents rise to the top and we end up with ENRON and Bear Stearns (CEO playing bridge while Rome burns). The Clintons matured during Regan's time. They learned a huge lesson, "It's the cocky platitudes stupid".

Comment by handyguy on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:03:02 EDT

most of those racists are in the Democratic party and a lot of Obama's supporters in the primary were crossover Republicans who will swing back to McCain in the general election. More nonsense from the Nalle file. The number of crossover Republicans in the primaries is not entirely known, but it's not enough to swing an election in the fall. And quite a few of those folks actually like and support the guy...what makes you so sure they'll switch back? Obama has nearly 8 months to work his charm on the working class Catholic whites who have mostly been supporting HRC. More amazing speeches like yesterday's could do it. Current polls have him beating McCain in Ohio, but either HRC or Obama losing Florida in the fall, albeit narrowly. Ohio and Pennsylvania are Reagan-Democrat territory, but they will be up for grabs in this election. Much can change in 7-1/2 months. But most people who hear Barack speak like him. A lot. Don't "misunderestimate" the importance of that. And if the economy is still bad [it usually takes a while for those perceptions to change], and Obama is able to debate McCain effectively on Iraq [as he already has been doing], there is no way the Republicans will win. He doesn't have to convince you, just normal people.

Comment by Douglas Mays on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:39:12 EDT

Uh, biffle, re: #16...is that really you speakin' like that? mean, sure, one reason the tension is still around is that segregation was still around since the early 60s. I was in 1st grade at the time... Not that long ago as far as social history goes...at the same time, long enuf to let the smoke clear...but there are those who were around then, still living now and remember... ANYWAY, my point is that the way this whole race thing is being played up. Obama is whiter than Tiger Woods. Very fair skinned. If he was as black as Kunta Kinte (sp?), he would not even be in the game. ugh, DM

Comment by Arch Conservative on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:39:25 EDT

The racists left in our country won't vote for Obama, but every sensible person who wants a change from the Bush-Cheney disaster will. Typical leftist tripe. I guess by that logic the reason i didn't vote for Kerry in 2004 is because I'm racist toward white people. If ignorance is bliss why are all of the leftists so angry?

Comment by bliffle on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:05:16 EDT

Those darn people have been nagging us for years, for Civil Rights, for Equal Opportunity. Nag, nag, nag. Seems like all they do is nag. Just because they've got the best music, best athletes, best poets, best dentists, you'd think they'd be happy! But nooooo. Now they want the Best President, too. After 400 years of our kindly demonstrations that We are superior and They are inferior you'd think those darn naggers would get the idea.

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:53:52 EDT

Throw in some political correctness and a health dose of inane liberal white guilt and we get the circus we bore witness to yesterday. If you're a white person who doesn't feel guilty about America's past and intend to manifest this guilt by voting for Obama you just don't have a clue. Bing, I was going to tell you to wait till you saw how some poll numbers came out before you made pronouncements - but then I remembered that lots of voters are dealing out their opinions from the bottom of the deck. Heck, the rubes ain't playin' the game anymore; they're a lot harder to read now. So, the whole thing is up in the air. There is one point, though. If people are posting songs about Obama without his prompting, he's reaching them. Music reaches down into the soul, Bing. Deep down.

Comment by Clavos on Why Barack Is Beating The Pantsuits Off Hillary -- And How Her "Experience" Has Handed Him His Victory On A Plate

Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:47:23 EDT

bliffle, I keep my Miles (and other jazz - a particular favorite: Ben Webster) on my iPod. My all time favorite Miles album is an oldie: Kind of Blue. Not only Miles himself, but the rest of the personnel on that album are also favorites in their own right; especially Bill Evans.