Blogcritics Comments on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Comment by REMF on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:17:50 EST

"Breaking news... some anonymous eejit doesn't give a shit. Who cares?" Apparently not BC's anonymous "assistant comments editor"...

Comment by Clavos on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:39:43 EST

Chuck Norris is merely an actor, and a mediocre one at that. And he was endorsing Huckabee, who was, and remains, a loser. Caroline Kennedy is the daughter of JFK. Her and her uncle's endorsement resulted in enormous media coverage for Obama, which of course, is the point of endorsements. That coverage helped assure that Super Tuesday was the last time Hillary won a primary.

Comment by Anon on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:55:29 EST

Name recognition my ass! Chuck Norris also has name recognition - look where it got Huckabee. And Kennedy endorsed Obama in her homestate of MA - remind me who won that state?

Comment by Clavos on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:37:23 EST

Most people may not recognize her on the street, but her name definitely has a high recognition factor. Which would explain the intense coverage by the MSM of her endorsement of Obama. OOOOhhhh, scary, anon! He's likely to be your next President!!! OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!

Comment by anon on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:12:52 EST

Most people wouldn't recognize Caroline Kennedy if she passed them on the street. So no it is not news in anyway except in the Obama cult where it is a huge event apparently!

Comment by Heloise on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:43:28 EST

Well, when I write and talk hard issues and policies no one thinks that breaking news or important. I don't think Caroline has ever been to Texas before and surely not to stump for a candidate. That's breaking news fella. Heloise

Comment by Clavos on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:43:10 EST

Nah, you didn't offend anyone, anon. It's just pixels on a screen...

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:13:45 EST

Breaking news: Caroline Kennedy in Austin for Obama today. Actually, Heloise, whey is this breaking news and why should we care? More important things are going on than some 40'ish Kennedy girl running off to Texas supporting Obama - like a Russian ship discovered spying off of the Israeli coastline, or a wet noodle demo called by Hamas where virtually nobody showed to storm our border like they did the Egyptian border a ways back.

Comment by anon on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:23:01 EST

Oh didn't know I was offending members of the Obama cult. Hail your messiah! my apologies - just don't take over a compound and start shooting :(

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:51:54 EST

Breaking news... some anonymous eejit doesn't give a shit. Who cares?

Comment by anon on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:46:42 EST

Why is this breaking news and who cares?!

Comment by Heloise on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:35:16 EST

Breaking news: Caroline Kennedy in Austin for Obama today. Heloise

Comment by steve on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:33:18 EST

mccain's statement was clearly out of context...he was referring to our presence in countries such as south korea and germany. REMF, looks like you shouldn't just read the cliffnotes of what the liberal media has to offer

Comment by Dave Nalle on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:30:08 EST

Did McCain start the Iraq War now? That's news to me. And BTW, McCain has two sons in service right now, one in the marines in Iraq and the other in the navy supporting the US efforts there. How does that sit with your little obsession, MCH? Dave

Comment by REMF on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:44:39 EST

"Clavos has already provided ample evidence that you're talking through your hat, as usual." - Dave Nalle Speaking of "talking through your hat"...It's awful easy to support McCain's 100 year war in Iraq as long as it's someone else going, eh Nalle?

Comment by Dave Nalle on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:03:54 EST

Bullshit, Nalle. See the Veterans Against the Iraq War web site. Clavos has already provided ample evidence that you're talking through your hat, as usual. VAIW does represent some veterans, but it's a tiny organization in the grand scheme of things. As for armed forces members donations to candidates demonstrating who they support, one of the analyses of the data done by USA Today has Obama with the most, Paul with the second and McCain only a tiny bit behind Paul. It had the Republican candidates overall leading Democrats with 59%. Campaign donations may not be a fair assessment of support, however. As most of us surely know, most military personnel can hardly afford to make large contributions or multiple contributions to presidential campaigns. Polls of the military or of retirees are likely to be a better measure, but I can't find any polls specifically of veterans. There's certainly lots of veteran support for McCain. It's overwhelming based on what they say at the McCain website and press releases from Veterans for McCain, but that's hardly real evidence. Dave

Comment by Clavos on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:31:23 EST

Dave #18, From an article in The Baltimore Sun: "McCain's support among veterans contrasts somewhat with that for Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004. Although Kerry also was a decorated veteran of the Vietnam War, he was the target of negative campaigning from the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which raised questions about his record in Vietnam that were widely disputed. After returning from Vietnam, Kerry had testified before Congress in 1971 about American military "atrocities" in Vietnam and participated in anti-war protests. For McCain, veterans could play a significant role today in states with heavy concentrations of military veterans, Sabato said. Maryland will hold its primary Feb. 12. Sabato pointed to exit polls showing that among veterans who voted in the South Carolina GOP primary, McCain held a double-digit edge over former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. "Any state that has a large proportion of veterans and military personnel, McCain has a natural connection," Sabato said. (emphasis added) And NRO: "In fact, McCain is probably the only candidate that talks about veterans' issues in every stump speech. And why shouldn't he? If one can judge by his appearances on the campaign trail, veterans are a significant base of support for McCain. It's a reasonable conjecture that McCain's victory in New Hampshire is in no small way attributable to his appeal to veterans. Veterans comprise over 15 percent of the voting age population in the Granite State, one of the highest percentages of any state in the nation. (A search for exit-polling data on veterans' voting habits in this past New Hampshire primary and the last few elections has proved maddeningly elusive.)" From a FoxNews exit poll in the Wisconsin primary: "Vets make up almost one quarter of voters, and they chose McCain over Huckabee by a significant 63 percent to 31 percent."

Comment by REMF on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:56:19 EST

"Just look at the tone of your posts right here on BC, bliffle. You are one of the nastiest, most vituperative commenters on this site." - Clavos I disagree, Clavvy. I find bliff to be refreshingly open minded and reasonable.

Comment by REMF on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:50:14 EST

"...the largest support from the military and overwhelmingly from the retired military has gone to McCain." Bullshit, Nalle. See the Veterans Against the Iraq War web site.

Comment by Heloise on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:41:58 EST

Tavis not smiling over Obama skip Breaking news here. Or is it? Tavis is just as much a politician as Barack. He picks and chooses what he wants to attend. When a friend here asked him to attend something she was hosting Tavis told her "it would cost money." He don't do freebies for the most part. Besides Barack participated in his debate about Black American issues. Heloise

Comment by Irene Wagner on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:20:45 EST

I've been known to surprise people, Dave Nalle. You may be one of them. Thanks for your help with the subheader.

Comment by Dave Nalle on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:17:38 EST

I'll take a look at it Irene. I can access published articles. Glad to have inspired you to write on. I always have fun with statistics articles. The other one might inspire me less, though. Dave

Comment by Irene Wagner on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:26:34 EST

That DOES it, Dave Nalle. Despite my resolve to take a "pause from BC," I am unable to resist your challenge to analyze statistical data. I have an article written in response to #18 which is 80% finished. You are likely to be less displeased with another one, a chat with my fellow Christians on the subject of Law vs. Grace and its implications for our involvement in politics, especially vis a vis social issues. I don't know if either article will do any good, so I'm not sure when or whether to finish/publish them. A more immediate concern is: Could you please tell me how to get the subheader into the main body of my article, "Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Dark Horse?" Articles seem to be available for editing only if they're in draft or pending status. The subheader giving credit to Wallace Stevens won't appear once the article rolls off the main page. A commenter has asked for permission to link to it, and I'm hesitant to let that happen without credit to Wallace Stevens being visible in the main article.

Comment by Dave Nalle on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:59:27 EST

she has also killed Obama (see California and a few other large states). A 2% margin of victory is hardly 'killing' anyone. Also doesn't change the fact that if the FL and MI delegates dont get to sit, then the voters from both states will be disenfranchised. Given their history I doubt many democrats will have a problem with that. And Irene, after Ron Paul who gets military support for reasons other than his position on the war, the largest support from the military and overwhelmingly from the retired military has gone to McCain. Dave

Comment by Irene Wagner on Barack Beat the Pantsuit Off Hillary, Or Who's Counting 10-0?

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:11:57 EST

Clavos, I'm going to say this and keep my mouth shut (as promised, multiple times!) There is a fairly high ratio of vets to non-vets, I've observed, at local campaign events for a certain Republican anti-Iraq-war presidential candidate. Sure, I have major ideological differences with neoconservatives over the definition of just war, but what keeps my heart engaged are the stories of the military men and women coming back (or not) from Iraq. These patriotic young men and women have been used treacherously and shamefully by a group of cynics whose tentacles have a grip on every aspect of US political life, even, campaign rhetoric notwithstanding, the foreign policy of such "anti-war" candidates as Obama. My family has packed up and sent care packages for the soldiers in Iraq. Protesting the war is another face of that same support. Any protest of the war that doesn't also pay tribute to the sacrifices, horribly misused sacrifices but sacrifices nonetheless, of the military and their families, brings to mind George Carlin's quip about "fighting for peace..."