Blogcritics Comments on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Comment by Irene Wagner on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:36:39 EST

In THOSE circuses though, the Senators weren't playing the clowns.

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:51:51 EST

Besides, Dave Nalle, if "mud wrestling" matches can or could be used by local party officials to determine the winner of a primary, then why all the effort spent predicting and doing post mortems on the outcomes? What does it matter what the voters think, if it's only the VOTE COUNTERS whose opinion really matters? Bread and circuses comes to mind. Dave

Comment by Irene Wagner on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:04:50 EST

Not a full cycle of the moon's waxes and wanes has passed since the surprises in New Hampshire. It's too soon to dismiss from consideration any cause (or indeed, combination of causes) behind those surprises. It may ALWAYS be too soon. The vote one registers in a clugey paperless voting system and the degree of racism one manifests by casting that vote can't be translated into data useful in doing statistical analyses. Besides, Dave Nalle, if "mud wrestling" matches can or could be used by local party officials to determine the winner of a primary, then why all the effort spent predicting and doing post mortems on the outcomes? What does it matter what the voters think, if it's only the VOTE COUNTERS whose opinion really matters? If I'm white and voted for Clinton instead of for Obama, it doesn't mean I'm racist. If I say I voted for Obama in an exit poll and the voting machine says I voted for Clinton, then it's foolhardy and naive of anyone to dismiss voting machine error or...voting machine tinkering by the party officials whose mud wrestling resulted in a draw. If I'm black and vote for Ron Paul, it doesn't mean I'm Uncle Tom. Charges of racism seem to be the theme of the week in news stories, apparently.

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:27:54 EST

As handy points out in #153 Archie is talking through his hat. While a lot of Republicans aren't happy with McCain-Feingold, the 'amnesty' issues is completely bogus. McCain's position is one shared by most mainline republicans and only offensive to nativists who remain a relatively small but vocal faction. McCain-Feingold is just a bad piece of legislation based on compromises which were ill-considered. Although McCain defends it, it's clearly not what he had in mind when he started on campaign finance reform, and he has tried unsuccessfully to replace it a number of times. Dave

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:25:28 EST

Well I'm not running for president dreadful. You guys can spin mccain feingold and his amnesty bill seven ways from Sunday but that won't change the fact that the GOP base can't stand him. It's amusing having two liberals tell me how I should feel about someone on my side of the playground.

Comment by handyguy on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:51:20 EST

And I'm sure John McCain cares as much [and possibly more] about US sovereignty and about free speech as Arch. The two of them just have different definitions. His immigration plan was of course not intended as a surrender of sovereignty - what possible motivation would he have for that? - and it didn't pass anyway. His campaign finance law was certainly not designed to attack free speech, but to reduce the corrupting, distorting influence of big money and negative advertising on our politics. You can disagree with policy proposals without demonizing them. Or at least most people can.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:49:35 EST

Neither do you, Arch. (With respect...!) ;-)

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:47:34 EST

It's not just amnesty or the fact that he consistently lies about his support of amnesty. It's mccain feingold. It's his constant ass kissing of the MSM and Democrats. It's everything about the guy. He's arrogant, smug, petty and doesn't really have any respect for anyonw who disagrees with him.

Comment by handyguy on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:44:36 EST

I don't understand the bitterness of some right-wingers toward McCain, and I'm not clear how many people feel that strongly. If it's mostly a matter of immigration, that's a pretty remarkable case of tunnel vision. Single-issue voters are not doing themselves any favors. Since McCain does well in national poll match-ups against Clinton and Obama, you would think GOPers would rally round him. Those polls that show him leading nationally for the nomination are only including Republican voters, right? And he won Republican voters, by a narrow margin, in NH. I can't find any recent national favorability numbers on him, or among Republicans only. He had over 70% favorability in NH, as did Obama. That's pretty amazing.

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:44:34 EST

You don't have to be an eveangelizing neocon (I'm not) to recognize an amnesty deal that would flush our sovereignty down the toilet and a blatant attack on free speech when you see it bliffle. Maybe I don't run in the same circles as you but it seems to me that Mccain is hated not only by the "evangelizing neocons" but by all but the most moderate in the GOP.

Comment by bliffle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:52:51 EST

SOme people I know claim that McCain IS the Republican party. What it was before evangelizing neocons hijacked the party.

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:26:21 EST

You honestly think that given the choice between Hillary and McCain a single Republican would actually vote for Hillery? What planet did you say you were living on again, Arch? Sorry, I forgot the Huckabee bet. What was it again? Was it whether I would vote libertarian if the choices are Hillary or Huckabee? That one's easy. Who said anything about voting for Hillary. I thought it was clear that I meant Republicans, such as myself would not vote at all. The Huckabee bet was wether or not Huckabee could show you where Pakistan is if you showed him a world map with no labels on it. My money says he's probably end up pointing to Turkey or Iran.

Comment by Paul on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:56:09 EST

Dave, I am suprised that you did not bother to check out the story yourself. The 10% discrepancy on the exit polling data had to do with the spread difference between Obama and Hillary, between the actual tally, and the exit poll. Do I have to do your research for you? On another front, I do suggest you check out allegations of voter fraud in New Hampshire on the internet, several of them seem to have teeth. Of particular note Is Bev Harris of blackboxvoting.org Before you go into a tirade about how unreliable the internet is, I suggest you do your homework. Pablo

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:11:32 EST

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:40:31 EST

No he wouldn't because many of the GOP base will not vote for Mccain in the general. The GOP truly is in a fight for the soul of the party amidst this election and while I'm not claiming Romney is the reseruction of the gipper, he is a hell of a lot closer than Mccain. Out of all the candidates who lined up at the start Duncan Hunter was my favorite by far but he turned out to be a nonstarter so Romney is my second pick and Rudy my third. If Romney or Rudy get the nod I will vote for them. If it's illegal smeagol or the huckster I will in fact be writing in Duncan Hunter. I never quite understodd the idea of the "protest vote" until smeagol and the huckster came along but I do now. I really don't see much difference between smeagol/huckster and clinton/obama. What about that bet about Huckabee Dave. Where's your money?

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:46:02 EST

Arch, if McCain is attracting independents in the primary that means he'll also attract independents in the general election. The GOP cannot win an election without a strong showing with independents. Therefore the only conclusion from your statement that McCain is sustained as a candidate by independent votes is that he would be a much better choice as nominee than Romney. Dave

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:44:17 EST

I just watched Chris Mathews on msnbc, saying that the exit polling data was off by over 10% on the Democratic side. Was that 10 points or 10% of the vote totals? Makes a big difference. Dave

Comment by Arch Conservative on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:17:22 EST

It looks like "independents" are poised to ruin another GOP primary in MI by giving it to John Mccain, or as I like to call him Illegal Smeagol. What a novel idea it would be to have a GOP nominee who was actually supported by Republicans. Although Illegal Smeagol has the momentum at the moment and the MSM are giving him daily rim jobs, history stills holds that he will not do well in the Southern/Midwestern states where there will be straight GOP primaries. Romney has more delegates and more republicans have voted for him than Illegal Smeagol yet the MSM has already written Romney's obituary. Romney also has much more money and organization than Illegal Smeagol. If Romney can't win in MI I hope he still competes on Super tuesday so that he can bloody Illegal Smeagol enough to keep him from getting the nomination. If that does happen though it opens the door for the other guy I really can't stand. Huckabee. $20 dollars says that if you showed Huckabee a map of the world without labels and asked him to show you where Pakistan is he wouldn't be able to do it. Needless to say if it is Huckabee or Illegal Smeagol in the Republican side in 2008 I will be writing in "duncan Hunter" under other.

Comment by Paul on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:33:24 EST

Dread in post 68 said: "Sorry, Paul, but the actual exit polls in New Hampshire were pretty accurate, however wildly the pre-election polling may have gotten it wrong." I just watched Chris Mathews on msnbc, saying that the exit polling data was off by over 10% on the Democratic side. That can hardly be called "pretty accurate".

Comment by Paul on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:22:24 EST

Oh and Dave? You asked me for any evidence of voter fraud in New Hampshire. Have a look at this video. youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY

Comment by Paul on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:45:28 EST

Dave, I dont know how it is, I am searching, it must be cozy knowing all of the truth in the world. Double smirk

Comment by Dave Nalle on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:41:30 EST

Hmmm, last time I checked your currency has a photo of the Queen of England on it not Washington's, or your own. Perhaps that was just your country's way of thanking her for your independence. Smirk Oh, oh. I feel it coming on. Don't be afraid, Paul. Come out of the closet. Tell us how it is. The Queen is the secret ruler of the world, controls the drug cartels and makes her wealth off of enslaving the masses pharmaceutically. Come on. If it's good enough for the Birchers, it's good enough for you too... BTW, what's with the 'smirk' - it's creepy. Dave

Comment by STM on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:35:52 EST

Paul, on queensland. You may be confusing Crown Land (which in reality isn't owned by the Queen) and Queensland, which is a state of Australia (and everyone who lives there or comes from there is certifiable ... it's the heat up there, you see). It's not actually owned by the Queen, though. It's just the name they gave it. We have another state named after a Queen too. Victoria. They're all mad down there too, but because of the cold.

Comment by Clavos on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:24:22 EST

Oh, I dunno, mate. I DID enjoy the goat thread the other day. And sheep are cute, too...

Comment by STM on The Ugly Truth About New Hampshire

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:22:06 EST

At least you ain't multi :)