"Israel... has been the subject of 70% of all UN Human Rights Council country-specific criticisms"

So what?

The UN resolutons are all ignored.

The resolutions of the UN are usually ignored - and so are its crimes - hence the article.

If you stupid navel-gazers in America paid more attention to the crimes of these pricks at the UN, thousands of people would be alive, and at last one genocide and several wars and civil wars would have been prevented. When Osama bin Laden orders a jet plane or two to be hijacked and flown into the UN building, he'll have done a service to humanity.

"When Osama bin Laden orders a jet plane or two to be hijacked and flown into the UN building, he'll have done a service to humanity."

-- Ruvy

The only difference between you and bin Laden is your selection of NY real estate.

Guys, come on. If Osama ordered an airliner-missile against the U.N., he'd be hitting his own base of support. Besides, think of the poor bastards that would have to fight the resulting fires, clean up the rubble, and the bystanders who aren't part of that particular organization.

Not to mention the bystanders trapped INSIDE the AIRLINERS-you know, the passengers?

Better to just quarantine the place and make sure you keep kids and other people you don't want molested away from the creeps in that building.

" If Osama ordered an airliner-missile against the U.N., he'd be hitting his own base of support."

You missed the point.

That's what Ruvy wanted.

UN resolutions are ignored because of the very things brought up in this article, which add up to the organization having no legitimacy. So we have to ask the question why it is allowed to exist and why we pay it any attention at all when it has no legitimacy and receives no respect.

Dave

"So we have to ask the question why it is allowed to exist and why we pay it any attention at all when it has no legitimacy and receives no respect."

Sounds like you are referring to the US Congress.

How naive Americans are to believe their own BS, their own myths of Virtue and self Righteousness!

Of course the UN is corrupt! People are corrupt. And the most flagrant and most powerful of the corrupt people are those with the most money and the most power. And who has the most money and the most power in the whole wide world at this juncture in history?

I suppose there are some, like Nalle, unlettered in Logic, who cannot figure out this simple syllogism.

Of course the UN is corrupt! People are corrupt. And the most flagrant and most powerful of the corrupt people are those with the most money and the most power. And who has the most money and the most power in the whole wide world at this juncture in history?

Bliffle there are many who need to consider these words by Thomas Tusser:

A fool and his money are soon parted.

You shouldn't say 'a fool and his money are soon parted'... you shouldn't put yourself down that way.

Bliffle, there's a huge difference between the corruption of those who weild power with money they have earned by their wits and labors and the corruption of those whose money comes solely from the largesse of countries who give it to them expecting a certain level of service which they never receive.

That you can't see that difference is at the root of your disconnect from the practical realities of the world.

Dave

"the corruption of those whose money comes solely from the largesse of countries who give it to them expecting a certain level of service which they never receive"

This would agree with Ruvy's assessment of the hundreds of billions the US has given to Israel.

Nalle: "...there's a huge difference between the corruption of those who weild power with money they have earned by their wits and labors and the corruption of those whose money comes solely from the largesse of countries who give it to them..."

What is the difference, pray tell?

A man dead from the predations of a vicious client country (possibly a client of the USA) paid for by foreign aid is no more or less dead than a man dead from a killer paid for by a rich billionare.

Resort to the barren Stalinest alibi of "...practical realities of the world...." demonstrates the bankruptcy of an ethical argument.

No organization that is created by man will lack fallacy. Let's grow up. American soldiers are being accused of rape and murder today, as we post. Should the United States be dismantled? Shake if off will you and mature by a couple of decades at least!

This body collects the entire planet. We should support it's effort and correct it when it has faltered but the persistent whining and criticism against it only weakens its effectiveness and therefore the stability around the globe. America's sabotage which was more strongly, unabashedly implemented during the BushI era has resulted in the body that it is today. It is our lies and poison that has weakened the UN and therefore international stability.

The garbage about Israel will be ignored... It's too obvious.

The UN is largely symbolic- it's resolutions are rarely followed.

"The UN is largely symbolic- it's resolutions are rarely followed."

...except when the US wants them enforced.

To be fair, al Queda has bombed UN facilities in Algeria. They consider any non-Muslim organization to be Western interference.

Re: "al Queda has bombed UN facilities in Algeria"

Not sure what your point is. If one Mafia Family kills members of another, does that make the victimized Family a bunch of nice guys?

Zedd. You're missing the key point that the flaws in the UN are not temporary or situational but are built into the very charter of the institution. Just cleaning house isn't enough to fix them.

Lumpy: "...the flaws in the UN are not temporary or situational but are built into the very charter of the institution. Just cleaning house isn't enough to fix them."

Well said. That's exactly right.

Lumpy: "Just cleaning house isn't enough to fix them."

As if that could even happen!

Is there any real question why Israel is the whipping boy of the UN

UN AUTHORITY FIGURES

So long as the government of Israel allows itself to be a whipping boy - it will remain one. Some simple steps to end the problem.

1. Expulsion of all UN personnel from our territory - our territory defined as all the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea - particularly from refugee camps, but also from the Hill of Evil Counsel in Jerusalem. Ending of all UN organizations that function here and stripping of diplomatic immunity from its officials, employees and vehicles. Impoundment of all UN vehicles for use by the IDF.

2. Ending any authority the UN can wield here.

3. Permanently banning any officials from the UN from the soil of Israel: those UN members who refuse to leave will be executed on sight after a 24 hour grace period to get their asses out.

4. Quitting the UN. There is no reason for us to be part of a travesty of an organization or to pay one single shekel for its upkeep. They have done nothing for us since the vote on partition, and they deserve nothing from us. Period.

5. Finally, warning the UN that none of its organs or decisions thereof will be recognized as legitimate here. Arrest warrants for Israelis based on UN resolutions, if carried out anywhere in the world, will be treated as acts of war - with Israel's nuclear missile force to take retaliatory action.

These simple measures are how you deal with criminals and bullies.

Ruvy, don't sugar coat it, tell it like it is!

OK, I agree. I too know the UN is an utter worthless waste of precious time and money and stands today as the world's biggest obstruction to real human rights. Is has to change or it has to go, but it has grown too big to change and will remain a beast out of touch and out of control and thus will never be what it was meant to be. That only change that will occure with be it will get even bigger and more out of touch and control.

For these reasons I too hope the US gets out of it and sends it packing to where it is appreciated where it can continue to infest itself with its current sickness until its members kill it off with their own suicide bombers.

Why doesn't anyone ever mention the billions the U.S. gives Egypt? Always Israel this and Israel that.

The Israeli government - packed with bought out traitors - is too scared to defend its own country lest some thug from the EU or the US murders them off, or figures a way for them to get arrested.

So the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not have a real policy. Neither does that prick, Olmert. His sole policy is to steal as much as he can, kiss American ass as much as he can, and hope that in the end he can run to France or America with his money.

As for Peres, he is nothing but a murderer (who arranged the death of YitzHak Rabin and the doing in of Ariel Sharon, amongst others) who has been bought out by the EU. All these idiots should be hung for high treason, which they have all committed, including the editors of Ha'aretz, Landau, and Akiva Eldar.

So Israel does not defend itself with anything near the aggressiveness it should. And it does not bother mentioning Egypt.

Our jail cells should be empty. The terrorists in them should have been shot. That way the pricks will figure out NOT to kill Jews. The UN should have long been expelled from the refugee camps, and the camps should be under direct Israeli control. If that encourages Arabs to leave, so much the better.

Gaza should be under Israeli control, with the Egyptians told to take the Arabs crowding the place - or else (the Aswan Dam gets blown).

FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANT, THE AMERICANS SHOULD BE TOLD TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY, AND TO TAKE THEIR MONEY, TROOPS AND SPIES WITH THEM - AND NOT TO RETURN EVER. WE DO NOT NEED THE BASTARDS.

Ruvy - the US has so heavily armed the Wahabis over the past decade that Israel appears screwed...how do you see your relations with that country working out - ?

We still have the nukes, Troll. And there is always that Ally that the US cannot beat.

...it's only a matter of time before your enemies obtain the technology to suppress your nukes on launch

best buddy up to the Big Guy

If they don't, they are doomed - like the rest of us.

Geez, Ruve, what you're suggesting in your lengthier post above virtually amounts to lighting the fuse for armageddon.

You are having a bad day, I presume??

I daresay you'd be having a far worse one if all that shit actually DID happen.

troll, Stan,

In the final analysis, the person who will lead this nation to victory will do so when we cannot rely on the nukes. In the final analysis, it will be reliance on the Almighty that wins the fight - not reliance on the weapons that men carry.

As we did at the Red Sea three millennia ago, we will be silent as G-d fights for us with His weapons. And then, as it says in the Torah az yashír Moshé FUTURE TENSE! "Then Moses will sing" - in other words, the story of the Exodus has a double meaning. The initial Redemption and Revelation of the Law - and the final Redemption and destruction of the evil impulse in people. Those lines in the Book of Exodus apply to us today and will occur in the near future.

Ruve, what you're suggesting in your lengthier post above virtually amounts to lighting the fuse for armageddon.

You are having a bad day, I presume??

I daresay you'd be having a far worse one if all that shit actually DID happen.

Stan, I feel sick as a dog. I'm supposed to be at a bat mitzvah in Jerusalem, for the daughter of one of the families we met at the absorption center in 2001-2002. But I didn't have the strength to go.

So, it's just me and the cat and a box of tissues and a glass of water.

But, what I outlined above could be the final act of the last leader of the Zionist movement - the man known as MashíaH ben Yoséf amongst our sages. And in essence, what he does is to set up the big fight - where G-d deals out the shit to His enemies and to the enemies of the Children of Israel - this is the battle described in the Book of Zechariah, and it takes place about one kilometer north of where we used to live in Jerusalem in the Valley of G-d's Judgment - 'Émeq Yehoshafát - as in "jumpin' Jehosafats" in the comic strip Annie.