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Comment by REMF on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:48:10 EST

"150 years ago. Therefore, utterly meaningless as far as the modern Mormon Church or Mitt Romney is concerned." - RJ Elliott So any explanation for why the Mormon Church has continuously denied - to this day - the involvement of both the Church and Brigham Young with the Massacre?

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:05:51 EST

And are you sure that in this parable, Jesus is not himself really the king mentioned? If so, then the meaning I ascribed to Luke 19:27 in the first place, stands.

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:01:59 EST

Re: Luke 19:11-27. So, all of this is some dumb story? Apparently I did misread the text. Fortunately, it wasn't all in Greek! It's nice to see the preacher wasn't as murderous as appeared - but did his followers have to be, subsequently? It gives them even less of an excuse and makes Christian Jew-hatred even less excusable than it already is....

Comment by Clavos on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:11:31 EST

"Take careful note, in 19:27, of the position of the closing single quotation mark..." As well as the opening double quotes in 19:11, which is the beginning of Jesus' speech. Doc's right, Ruvy...

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:43:06 EST

Ruvy, you're taking the verse out of context. Read the Parable of the Minas again, here. Take careful note, in 19:27, of the position of the closing single quotation mark...

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Fri, 4 Jan 2008 08:16:00 EST

"All Jesus did, assuming he lived, was tell his friends (before he got executed by the Romans) to bring all those who wouldn't follow him (or who would deny him - I forget the exact wording) before him to be slain." -- Ruvy Where did you read that? Jacob, I found it in the Book of Luke, 19:27. It's always fun to see exactly the character of a fellow so many call a god. Christians raise this guy somewhat too high for my tastes. No man is perfect, and this man showed himself to be bloodthirsty enough; he got paid back on several levels.... Of course, his followers paid us back on several levels for a millennia and two thirds....

Comment by Jacob on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:39:50 EST

When Republican presidential candidates were asked to cite their biggest mistake, Romney replied: "Probably from a political standpoint and a personal standpoint, the greatest mistake was when I first ran for office, being deeply opposed to abortion but saying, 'I support the current law,' which was pro-choice and effectively a pro-choice position. That was just wrong." The truth is, when Romney ran for office in Massachusetts he went far beyond saying, "I support the current law." He begged voters to accept him as an embracer of abortion rights. He said, "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal." Romney campaigned for governor in 2002, as a pro-choice candidate. Romney knew that in Massachusetts a Republican had no chance of being elected governor without appearing liberal, so he responded to the National Abortion Rights Action League's candidate survey with the statement, "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's." The issue now is not abortion, it's honesty. Romney could win the GOP nomination. And if Romney is ever elected president, the voters will get what they deserve. A proven liar who puts power above ethics. Just what the country needs.

Comment by Jacob on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:19:58 EST

Anthony Circosta, a decorated Iraq War veteran from Massachusetts, needed a gun permit to get a promotion at his security job and to pursue a possible career as a police officer. But first he needed to have his record cleared of a childhood felony - shooting a classmate in the shoulder with a BB gun when he was 13. In 2004, Circosta's Army National Guard unit was deployed to Iraq, where he spent a year as a combat medic. He was promoted to first lieutenant and was awarded the Bronze Star for meritorious service. The Massachusetts clemency board investigated Circosta's case and twice recommended pardoning him. But then-Governor Mitt Romney refused, preserving a record of rejecting every clemency request that crossed his desk. Why? Romney wants his clemency record to be as neat as his hair.

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Wed, 2 Jan 2008 04:55:57 EST

So would Christians and Jews automatically be outside the pale along with Mormons? I don't think it will ever happen, but if Romney is elected as chief greyhound is your doggy race, it will be educational on a gut level for big-time Christian preachers in your country to be called "gentile" by a putative president Romney. You would all get a small dose of what being Jewish has been like in exile for so many centuries.

Comment by Jacob on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Wed, 2 Jan 2008 00:20:17 EST

Now, Now, boys -- all that's allowed here is ass-kicking.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:54:33 EST

Back to the reason I dropped into this thread again: Al, you're onto something with Huckabee, that's for sure. For instance, the absolute gall he exhibited today trying to pass himself off as a man of integrity by saying he won't be running an ad accusing Romney of dishonesty... then showing it to reporters anyway. Lovely fellow.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:47:32 EST

All you did was sail dangerously close to slander, both against Al and myself. You're not Daryl D's evil twin, are you? I might add the observation (and this applies to most of your comments, Jacob) that it's rather hard to kick someone in the ass with a boot that only exists in your fevered imagination. REMF, you're several days late. That last whack over the head from ~~Moe~~ Clavos must have put you in a temporary coma...

Comment by Jacob on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:06:38 EST

All I did was kick him in the ass.

Comment by REMF on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:24:27 EST

Looks like Dr. Dreadful and Jacob are doing their impression of Moe and Curly taking turns hitting each other over the head...

Comment by REMF on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:16:47 EST

"The Mountain Meadows massacre involved a mass slaughter of the Fancher-Baker emigrant wagon train at Mountain Meadows in Utah Territory by Mormon militia in September 1857. It began as an attack, quickly turned into a siege and eventually culminated on September 11, 1857, in the execution of the unarmed emigrants after their surrender. The Arkansas emigrants were traveling to California shortly before the Utah War started. Mormons throughout the Utah Territory had been mustered to fight the United States Army, which they believed was intended to destroy them as a people. The emigrants stopped to rest and regroup their approximately 800 head of cattle at Mountain Meadows, a valley within the Iron County Military District of the Nauvoo Legion. Initially intending to orchestrate an Indian massacre, two men with leadership roles in local military, church and government organizations, Isaac C. Haight and John D. Lee, conspired for Lee to lead militiamen disguised as Native Americans along with a contingent of Paiute tribesmen in an attack. The emigrants fought back and a siege ensued. Intending to leave no witnesses of Mormon complicity in the siege and avoid reprisals complicating the Utah War, militiamen induced the emigrants to surrender and give up their weapons. After escorting the emigrants out of their fortification, the militiamen and their tribesmen auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children." (from Wikipedia)

Comment by RJ Elliott on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Tue, 1 Jan 2008 01:56:37 EST

"Any religion claiming to be "the true church" will be held eternally responsible for the slaughter of dozens innocent women and children." Well, then all religions deserve to be held "eternally responsible" for the crimes that have been committed by their believers. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. all have committed horrible crimes in the name of their religion at some point in the past (or present day). You don't even have a real argument here. You just apparently hate Mormons. (Or maybe just Mitt Romney.)

Comment by Jet in Columbus on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:10:37 EST

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Comment by Jet in Columbus on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:44:45 EST

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Comment by Jet in Columbus on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:41:44 EST

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Comment by Clavos on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:23:05 EST

"Any religion claiming to be "the true church..." ...In other words, all of them. ...will be held eternally responsible for the slaughter of dozens innocent women and children. ...Again, all of them, and they've killed them in the hundreds of thousands, not "dozens." I couldn't agree with you more; unfortunately, no religion ever has been, nor is ever likely to be held responsible by anyone, especially not the mythical "god' they all pray to.

Comment by REMF on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:00:16 EST

"150 years ago. Therefore, utterly meaningless as far as the modern Mormon Church or Mitt Romney is concerned." - RJ Elliott Utter horseshit. I don't care if it was 1500 years ago, Elliott. Any religion claiming to be "the true church" will be held eternally responsible for the slaughter of dozens innocent women and children.

Comment by REMF on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:53:26 EST

"It was the standard of the day, so Joseph Smith was conventional in the context of his era." - Clavos So were 51 fucking wives also conventional in the context of his era?

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:19:31 EST

Oh, yeah. Just to remind you all. Not all of us have been so stupid to buy into the sour nightmare that was the American dream by selling our identity and sacred heritage for an SUV and a fancy house. Regards from Samaria, and have a good week.

Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:16:21 EST

For the record the Jews in PNAC are mostly non-observant Jews or outright non-believers. The non-believers with the Jewish names are nothing but court Jews who think that by kissing the ass of the Protestant oil and banking establishment that really runs America, they will get brownie points. Their brown noses have gotten them little. Wolfowitz was made president of the World Bank and got crucified. Stan Fisher got shipped of to be the president of the Bank of Israel (what a dinky assignment for a guy who should be enjoying 9 on the links and his grandkids!) to make sure that our wallets were reliant on the damned dollar. The boys in the establishment are happy to have them there. When the shit hits the fan in your country, as it is presently, they will be like dolls in the breakfront for the mob (people who think like Jacob) to throw rocks at. The court Jews of today have the same problem their predecessors (from Joseph to the Rothchilds) have had. They could never tell the difference between a manager and an owner. The court Jews are mere managers. The Protestants are the owners. There is a reason n we Jews invented the word "WASP", folks. Not all of us are stupid court Jews.

Comment by Irene Wagner on Mitt Romney Makes a Better Christian Than Mike Huckabee

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:05:48 EST

Dr. Dreadful, sorry for not responding sooner, but...I was passing out Ron Paul door hangers! What a GREAT evening---clear, chilly, starry sky, the Christmas lights were on all over the neighborhood, I must have passed out a hundred door hangers, AND I was listening to FM radio over my cell phone and GUESS WHAT came on? NPR's "On Point" call-in show with an interview with Ron Paul! 'Twas perfect. OK very funny. :P This is what the door hangers REALLY said. On one side is printed: "Ron Paul 2008 Hope for America...In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the gang of 535" on Capitol Hill...has served on the House Banking committee, he is a strong advocate for sound monetary policy...used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels..." Other side: "...He voted against the Iraq war. He voted against the Patriot Act. He has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He has never voted to raise Congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He does not participate in the lucrative Congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual Congressional office budget to the U.S. Treasury every year..." There are also three very handsome (or "presidential") pictures of Dr. Paul on the door hanger. I think you should order up a bunch, Dr. Dreadful. **** STM - I think the situation has deteriorated over the last few days. Hope everything turns out well for him. Happy New Year! *** Al Barger--thanks for putting together the Gospel music collection. I have the link and hope to enjoy it soon. OK see y'all later.