Blogcritics Comments on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:23:26 EST

From what I've heard of him, it wouldn't be beyond the bounds of credibility for the real Hugo Chavez to seek out a piece such as this and comment on it. That is, if he had any spare time that he wasn't spending appearing on TV. He can probably spell 'Iraqis' though.

Comment by STM on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:48:18 EST

"iraquis"? What, new native American tribe?

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:18:22 EST

It strikes me that losing elections seems to make Chavistas and Paulistas go rather quiet...

Comment by Clavos on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:44:41 EST

�Hola Hugo! �Que te pas� en diciembre? �Cuéntanos!

Comment by Hugo Chavez Frias on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:43:32 EST

Fuck this article. Do you know who is the real killer and terrorist of this world? Bush and his zionist warhawks who did 9-11, and killed 1 million iraquis so far

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:06:20 EST

Yes, well, we will keep writing articles about the fellow... The simple fact is that Dr Paul's campaign seems to have caught the imagination of the internet generation in a way that no other candidate has been able to. Whether or not that translates to feet in voting booths, we'll see in a couple of months, when the primaries (finally, thank God) kick in.

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:53:02 EST

And, of course, it may well be the case that, like this article's cheeky experiment, the very use of the term Ron Paul is a good way for sites to generate traffic now. I do recall an American chap coming over to the UK sometime last year - I think he was advising the Conservative party - and predicting that your next election will be fought and won on the internet. Maybe he was/is a Ron Paul adviser? Have the other candidates mobilised in this way? I know debates are Youtubed but Paul seems to have the numbers of bloggers and blog commenters. (Again, excuse my ignorance, this is the only source I regularly use for American political punditry, but it has seen several Ron Paul avalanches).

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:45:52 EST

How correct you are Jacob, I do apologise for missing my keys, and thank you for pointing it out too, which in this country we call annoying pedantry and condescention... Fair play though. I'm simply curious, that's all...

Comment by Clavos on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:28:34 EST

"Actually, both parties tried something like that this year and it backfired." Big time. Democratic primary voters in Florida are disenfranchised by DNC, who has ruled their votes won't count.

Comment by handyguy on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:55:48 EST

Our election cycle is absurd, and someday, perhaps, someone will realize it and say: "Enough already! Iowa: March 1 New Hampshire: March 15 "Everyone else in randomly generated groups of 10 states, at two-week intervals after that. "No backtalk. Just do it." Actually, both parties tried something like that this year and it backfired. All the states want to be at the head of the line, and all the candidates feel they must declare their intention to run at least 6-9 months before the first primary. Any attempt to outlaw that would be jumped on as anti-American, anti-freedom-of-speech.

Comment by Jacob on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:43:50 EST

"Then, you're system is very much more (potentially) engaging of the voter." In this country we say "your" in this context... "you're" is a contraction for "you are."

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:33:57 EST

How do you cope Handyguy?? I mean it's like fucking years man. Over here an election is called - at the whim of the governing party within a maximum Parliament length - and then it's all done and dusted in a couple of months at the most. And, that's quite enough for me. Then, you're system is very much more (potentially) engaging of the voter. My head will fall off by nect November... It would be a shame if a court case changed the rules and would, I imagine, further damage faith in the democratic process.

Comment by handyguy on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:26:18 EST

The ballot initiative has been described as 'dead' a couple of times, but it keeps springing back up as in a horror movie. It would probably award 19 of Calif's 55 electoral votes to the Republican candidate. In a close election, that would certainly turn the tide. At this point, who knows how close it will actually be?

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:09:39 EST

Do excuse me by the way, I'm well-aware a perfectly valid response to my comments would be, "Well f+ck off then, this does matter to us and we're discussing it amongst ourselves."

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:07:14 EST

Actually, I'm bored of the whole election - and as I say I'm thousands of miles away. I really don't know how you all cope with it - sheesh, it just goes on and on and then the whole thing'll start again when you get down to your final toothsome twosome. I actually admire the belief of all you Ron Paulsters - which first hit me on myspace yoinks ago when I was asked to be the friend of a Ron Paul supporter, who set his profile up entirely to that end. I mean fair play, but I do wonder about Paul-fatigue... Is there no chance of a third party this time. And, something I was interested in that was reported over here was a court case by Republicans in California to split the electoral college vote so it represents the vote as a whole rather than being all-or-nothing one way or the other - the way it was represented in the paper I read was that if this case is succesful then you might as well wave in whoever the Republicans pick. Has that gone away?

Comment by handyguy on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:53:48 EST

So, on the morning of Feb. 6, when Rep. Paul has precisely zero committed delegates, what's the next move for you folks? Where will you channel all this impressive emotion and commitment?

Comment by Jacob on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:36:41 EST

"On the whole Doctor Paul debate... there's a real danger that everyone's gonna be bored sh*tless " Unlikely, because of his message. But I AM bored sh*tless with the news media replaying the asinine trivia coming from all the others.

Comment by Colin on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:19:55 EST

I think someone - and I believe it was Dave Nalle - made a rather prescient comment on the whole Doctor Paul debate. There's a real danger that everyone's gonna be bored-sh*tless with the very mention of his name come voting time. I live in Britain - and beyond the fact we hear quite a lot about our former colonies over the Atlantic (haven't you done well for yerselves) in the normal run of the news, you being the only superpower and anglophone and all that the main exposure I get to US political views is here. And, I'm bored! I know that doesn't matter cos I don't get a vote and so on, and I should be worried about British politics, but I do think there's a real danger in over-egging your on-line grass-roots pudding. Then again (and, though I hate to praise myself, I wish more people would say this on here) I could be completely wrong. Haven't you had pretty low turnouts for elections over there? We do. Perhaps this is a massive re-engagement with politics. As I say these are comments from afar so please add a pinch of saline Atlantic water.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:49:01 EST

Well, Irene, all I can say is that if the War on Terror goes as well in the long term as the War on Drugs, we'll probably be sitting around in 40 years having this same conversation.

Comment by Irene Wagner on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:11:13 EST

Me, a Bot? Not a bit of it! I made my debut in blogcritics when I discovered the Ron Paul and the Brain-Off Conspiracy thread, but I typed "Ron Paul+idiot" into Google search my OWN dang self to get here. I came for Ron Paul, but I stayed for the drama. :) If Ron Paul supporters ARE bots, then they're bots who get around with real live, not just virtual, legs. My neighborhood has only been blitzed with door hangers for ONE 2008 presidential candidate so far: Ron Paul. This is in Mitt Romney country, too. There are Vote for Ron Paul signs all over town. It's all being done by volunteers, all over the country, so the war chest should still be a tidy sum come primary time. Tail-end-of-the-Baby-Boomer chickenhawks don't have any problems sending OTHER people's sons into Iraq. However, they may change their tune when they realize (through the efforts of enthusiastic Ron Paul campaigners) that by the time their OWN sons grow up, if the US keeps on its current Empire Building "Project of a New American Century" trajectory, it will STILL be sending soldiers into the protracted War on Terror--a war which only seems to fertilize the ground in which terrorists thrive. You know, with declining birth rates, a strong possibility exists for the reinstitution of the draft. If I were 18 and about to vote in my very first election, the possibility of endless wars for a succession of imaginatively conceived provocations would cause me to push my concerns about gay marriage and abortion and the credibility of the truthers standing next to me at the Ron Paul rally way down on my list of issues that matter. And sooner or later, hopefully before the Republican primaries are over and done, the same rearrangement of priorities will be happening for their die-hard Right Wing and/or Conservative moms and dads, too.

Comment by REMF on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:27:18 EST

"I'll bring the marshmallows." - Lumpy But wouldn't that entail actually backing up your words with some action...?

Comment by Dr Jetfuel on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:21:36 EST

Careful, Lumpy. You're starting to sound like REMF in reverse.

Comment by Jacob on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:37:58 EST

What intellectually bankrupt ad hominem? Who did I offend? The one who advocates Americans continuing to die for a lie? You say you will "bring the marshmallows" That's plural. Do you actually believe you have more than one brain?

Comment by Lumpy on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:26 EST

"Does that mean you take responsibility for the American lives being sacrificed? Are you willing to put your life on the line? " Jacob. Are u willing to put your life on the line to get us out of Iraq or do you just stick to intellectually bankrupt ad hominems? If you really want the troops out of Iraq u should be willing to immolate yourself infront of the white house to make your point. Let us know when. I'll bring the marshmallows.

Comment by Jacob on Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:51:24 EST

BTW, rightwingding, you can't be a REAL conservative.