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Comment by Baronius on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:54:21 EDT

Dr. D - Johnson and Kennedy had a reason to join forces. As you said, pragmatism won out. There's nothing that Hillary or Obama brings to the ticket that the other one doesn't. There's no payoff. Besides, Kennedy wasn't one to hold a grudge. Johnson was; Hillary is. If Hillary is at the top of the ticket, she'll be just as warm and fuzzy as Johnson would have been. Nalle - Are you putting faith in polling data fifteen months before the election? It always happens that as a person wins primaries, they appear more presidential. Her campaign, the DNC, and the NYT will be pouring resources into shoring up her support. They got some Americans to tolerate Gore and Kerry, who are every bit as unlikable as Hillary. Personally, I think she'd be a horrible nominee for the Dems. And I'd love to see it happen, if it weren't for the risk that she easily could get elected. As a Republican, Clinton-Obama probably is my dream ticket. Then again, Edwards is ridiculous too... and so are most of the GOP candidates. (Sigh.)

Comment by Dave Nalle on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:38:58 EDT

I think the dems would be a lot better off nominating Obama. Look at their negative ratings. Independents and some Republicans will vote for Obama. Too many of them positively hate Hillary to vote for her. Unless a 3rd party candidate gets into the race or the Republicans nominate someone like Tancredo,Hillary gets a solid 46% nationwide and loses. Dave

Comment by Dr Dreadful on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:01:52 EDT

There will never be a Clinton-Obama ticket. These two really hate each other. Kennedy and Johnson hated each other too. Pragmatism won out.

Comment by Steven on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:51:22 EDT

There will never be a Clinton-Obama ticket. These two really hate each other. I think Hillary would rather have George Bush and all of his incompentancy as a running mate over Barack Obama. If offered the Vice Presidency, Barack Obama would turn it down rather be under Hillary Clinton.

Comment by Baronius on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:39:55 EDT

Handy, I'm the same kind of worrier, but on the other side of the aisle. I think you always remember the bad losses on your own side. Also, you expect people to choose "right", so you're surprised when they don't. That's probably why I've been discounting Rove's impact on recent boards - beating Gore and Kerry seems like no big deal to me. I think you're overestimating Hillary's empathy though.

Comment by handyguy on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:30:32 EDT

I've seen Democrats lose a lot of elections that logically ought to have been theirs to win, so I'm one Dem who's a perennial worrywart. However, the recent debate performances of Sens. HRC and Obama have put my mind at ease a bit. Pundits on both sides seem to believe the election will turn on bromides like "Hillary's not likable and her negatives are impossibly high" and "Obama's a lightweight with little experience." But as more Americans begin to pay attention to the candidates, they'll notice how very smart and articulate both Clinton and Obama are - a dramatic change from our White House's current occupant! The public's expectations have been set so low for HRC that her negatives - based less on specifics about her than on some vague notion that 'that's how everybody feels' - can only go down. And both she and Obama generate a convincing empathy that John Kerry, for one example, lacked. Rudolph Giuliani is not exactly a warm and fuzzy type of opponent, either. Many, many things will happen before the final stages of this race, but I'm more optimistic about this election than any since 1992.

Comment by Jim on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:45:49 EDT

Obama did not claim he would invade Pakistan. Please read the original transcript of his comments.

Comment by Doug DeLong on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:18:44 EDT

Whomever the Dems nominate will have an automatic advantage in the election because of the "Bush-fatigue" factor. Whomever the Republicans nominate will run as fast as he can away from Bush, but, fair or not, the fact that the nominee and Bush both have an (R) after their names will spell doom.

Comment by steve on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:32:40 EDT

Hill's not gonna make the cut, sorry. Too much baggage, too much unelectability. Obama has a better shot, but I don't expect him to be the candidate either. Edwards has already spent his political capital, and is well done already. Someone will emerge from much deeper in this field. Richardson might be it...it won'e be the front runners. Look back at the elections from 1960 until now and see how the front runners did, and who was nominiated.

Comment by Dave Nalle on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:11:02 EDT

I sure woukld have liked to have seen Jack Kemp in the White House, even as VP. Dave

Comment by Baronius on GOP Shouldn't Fear Clinton-Obama "Dream Ticket"

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:41:48 EDT

That's a reasonable analysis. You always want to be wary of a VP nominee with more charisma than you. I recall that Bush was urged to put McCain on the ticket - actually, it was more than urging. It was assumed that he would. Ford was supposed to pick Reagan; Bush 41 was expected to pick Kemp. Those would all have been bad choices. It takes about an hour for everyone to forget about the also-ran candidates and rally around the party's ticket. Hillary and Obama would do well to not pick the other. Either one would look better in front of Richardson's low-charisma background lighting.