Re: Date Number One - by people who are actual reviewers & or filmmakers:

"The film is about as charming as they come...presents a world in which cultures don't clash, they mesh. It's refreshing to see characters who all appear to have a natural optimism, as opposed to the typical indie-film predilection for bitterness and cruelty. "
- Michael Tully, Rotterdam & SXSW film festivals selected filmmaker & indieWIRE blogger

"I found the characters and the premise sexy, sexy, sexy."
- Jerry Brewington, Hollywood Is Talking blog, on Story 2 of Date Number One

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"...witty...often inventive...and, even better, airy: characters are given time and space to spell out their views...views that never bear the artificial markings of a Hollywood screenwriter's compulsion to reduce them to sound-bites."
- David Hudson, Editor, GreenCine Daily blog


"FIVE really entertaining, fully realized romantic interludes...a shamefully rare achievement"
- Tom Kipp, Seattle audience member, former film reviewer for Seattle alternative weekly The Stranger

"Heartfelt...poignant...I loved it!"
- Jon Moritsugu, award winning filmmaker
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"...somehow, someway, in the end, the love of the characters, the positiveness of the film, and Sujewa's disregard for conventions wins you over. The act of making this film wins you over. There is only a positive through line in this film, and that is rare to see, especially when dealing with characters in their late to early thirties."
- Amir Motlagh, director of the popular '04 Atom Films' short Still Lover & upcoming feature Whale


"Date Number One is quite funny...twentysomethings and occasional thirtysomethings looking for romance recall Richard Linklater's philosopher slackers and Jim Jarmusch's minimalist attention to conversation...also a subtle, thoughtful film...might be understood as the anti-Crash depiction of life in the city...depicts a comfortably multi-ethnic community...I'd happily recommend it."
- Chuck Tryon, media professor & blogger, The Chutry Experiment blog

hey, look, comment spam

Lucas, comment #1 isn't spam, it's a dissenting view. The internet is like that...

Christopher, I think Lucas's comment was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Commenter #1 hasn't really offered up his or her own reasoned opinion or engaged in dialogue, or directly addressed Lucas's critique, but has instead chosen to a) question Lucas's qualifications, and b) regurgitate a lot of other people's opinions of said film. That isn't really presenting a dissenting view, at least not in any meaningful sense.

I couldn't say, or tell, if Lucas was being tongue-in-cheek but the comment certainly isn't spam, ma'am.

I quite agree with you. I guess my point was that Lucas didn't really think it was spam either but was making sort of an editorial comment. See?

What's that movie called, American Subtlety? ;-)

Oxymoron? :) Yes, they're oh so subtle, aren't they, our American cousins ...

Of course, their big problem is that they drive on the wrong side of the road.

Regardless of his intent, I would like to hear from others who have seen the movie. In your opinion, is is good or not and most importantly WHY do you feel that way? Thanks.

Usually I try to read a review by a person I've read before so I have a chance to compare his tastes with my own. Even if our tastes are different I have a chance to calibrate his review against my opinion after I see the movie.

Usually, around here, that means Richard von Busack in the local weekly tabloid "Metro" available online as metroactive.com.

For example, in what turned out to be a control test, I saw a movie before I read RVBs review and the comparison confirmed what I figured would have been my reaction.

And whoever writes the ledes for the movies is clever so that's fun.

re: spam

comment #1 is an exact copy of the movie's promotional material and the exact same thing is posted in the comment section on my blog, so it may not be spam, but it ain't exactly a honest, truthful dissenting opinion.


Belle,

"Date Number One" is bad in every way a movie can be bad.

Lucas - A great review that ALMOST makes me want to see this movie, since it seems to commit so many fundamental film making errors. I get frustrated with indie film people, and many mainstream actors, who mistakenly believe that a movie is nothing more than a filmed play meant to showcase actors and a script.

I really get what you mean when you talk about how the director fails to use the camera to help tell the story because of his sloppy framing and indifferent compositions. Intelligent framing, composition, and movement (of the camera and of actors within the scene) should be part of a good filmmaker's cinematic vocabulary. On the other hand, there is the example of the Dogme 95 crowd, which tried to avoid fussy or ostentatious production techniques, but still could not consistently produce interesting or compelling work, indicating again how difficult it is to use even deliberately sloppy technique to tell a cinematic story.

From the director of Date Number One:

Interesting to see that Date Number One is being discussed over here (thanks Google alerts!), off of Lucas's, hmmm, what's the word, poorly written & poorly thought out review.

To begin with, film is both art & entertainment, thus it can't be good or bad, it is not poison or medicine, if you guys want other people who know about film to take you seriously, you will need to get away from the idea of there being good films and bad films. That kind of uselessly simplistic, grade school mentality will make you miss or misread a lot of new & interesting work. Excellence in art & entertainment is a matter of taste, you can like it for whatever reason & not like it for whatever reason, but that's about it, you reaction to the work does not alter the work itself - it remains what it is - to be interperted (sp?) by each viewer. I could go on & on re: this subject but I will just cut to problems with Lucas's review of Date Number One.

It is obvious by reading that review that Lucas is a frustrated filmmaker. He has started a so-called "helpful" project- the uber-indie project, in order to "help" other filmmakers but in reality that project is an attempt to establish himself as relevant to people who actually make "real" films - full length features as opposed to one line & badly executed jokes such as L'Attente (even though I found it interesting for a couple of reasons, when I showed it to an audience in MD early this year there was not one person in the audience who thought that L'Attente was worth their time). I have not seen Gravida yet, so I will have to wait to comment on that. Anyway, back to Lucas's work as a critic/reviewer -it is not done in the interest of the audience, rather it is done to compensate for the fact that he has been unable or unwilling thus far to make a feature. As the old saying goes, those who can, do and those who can't, well, you know the rest...
Lucas's motives are made clear in the Date Number One review - one, he believes that there is a right way and a wrong way to make a movie - which is like some 1950's dude saying that only classical music/Mozart is real music and all other music from all other periods of time & places are not real/bad/whatever negative term music. Then he goes on to state what he would do differently in Date Number One - which reveals his desire to make movies but not really review them in order to benefit audiences.

Also, the uber-indie project seems to be a very self-serving project for Lucas's own movies - I just visited the site to see what he's up to & saw that he had filed an uber-indie entry for Gravida -his own film - & selected only positive or positive sounding reviews to highlight. That's basically presenting promo material as a review.
Another example of Lucas claiming to offer one thing but offering something entirely different. The Uber-Indie project claims to be about various indie films by several different filmmakers but it appears to be (in the case of Date Number One & Gravida at least) all about Lucas - how he would have made Date Number One & how he feels that offering promo material for his own movie (gravida) as a review is a fair thing to do.

Ultimately, Lucas's review is of no great consequence to Date Number One or my career - DNO is being received very well at screenings and my next film will go in front of the camera as soon as I want it to happen, and there is plenty of interest in the DNO DVD & other distribution.

I would however advise other indie filmmakers to steer clear of caustic and, in many significant ways, unqualified, web based film reviewers such as Lucas. Because indie filmmakers who are not completely sure about the kind of movie they have on their hands can be lead to believe, by people such as Lucas, that the film is not as good as it actually is,or that the film has no audience.

Playing your movie to a regular (non-aspiring filmmaker/reviewer) audience & judging the quality of your movie by their reactions is much wiser than sending it to a reviewer such as Lucas - a young/inexperienced filmmaker wanna be (well, feature filmmaker wanna be - since Lucas has already made a couple of shorts) who, in my opinion, writes useless (to many audience members)reviews(at least that is the case with his review of Date Number One, not sure about the other,later reviews, I largely stopped reading Lucas after his comically contrarian (compared to ALL the other reviews & audience reactions to the film) review of DNO.

Anyway, that's about it, I have to go get ready for a screening of Date Number One - which is how us real filmmakers spend our time - not talking about how we would re-make someone else's movie under the guise of a movie review.

- Sujewa

hey, look, a dissenting view!

I won't bother to respond to Sujewa's personal attacks. I'll only note that as a favor to him for screening L'Attente, I actually toned down the review (and he knows this) by focusing more on ways the film could have been better, rather than a full-scale attack.

Other than Sujewa, no one has successfully questioned my motives and/or credentials before. Other filmmakers have gotten bad reviews from the uber-indie project, but none of them have acted so negatively.

But in response to this:

"I just visited the site to see what he's up to & saw that he had filed an uber-indie entry for Gravida -his own film - & selected only positive or positive sounding reviews to highlight. That's basically presenting promo material as a review."

Those are the only 4 reviews that exist. If negative ones come in, I'll add them there. It's not entirely promo material, but more the idea that if I can dish out criticism I'd better be able to take it.

Film is both entertainment and art, but criticism is all about judging that based on common, objective standards. In my view as a critic, Date Number One completely fails every objective standard. I stand by the review 100%, regardless of what anyone else says.

Sujewa,

you know as well as i do that in giving a negative review of DNO, i had nothing to gain and lots to lose. don't act like i wanted to attack someone else's work just because i was having a bad day. if that were the case i would have picked a different film. but more importantly, i would never do that (and deep down, you know that as well)