Wow. I had to double check to make sure I was reading this on Blogcritics and not The Onion. Gotta wonder what my feminist sisters are thinking on this one!

Ahh.... Satire?

You know, good satire usually doesn't quote dead people in a news release, like Andrea Dworkin. Either this was written by an idiot, or someone's re-posting something written long ago, in a political environment far away. Troooooollll away!

JB, isn't that Dworkin quote real? I'm pretty sure she actually said something very much like that.

Dave

Maybe the quote dead people if the attitudes about the subject should have died along with that person...

dworkin is dead...big deal.

the following passage is from a pro-dworkin web site. shortly before she assumed room temperature, she attempted to "clarify" her position on one of her controversial, anti-male positions. after reading this you have to wonder if her attempts to make herself clear caused her demise. clearly this is a troubled person.

"Andrea Dworkin believes that all intercourse is rape.

FALSE. She has never said this. She sets the record straight in a 1995 interview with British novelist Michael Moorcock. And in a new preface to the tenth-anniversary edition of Intercourse (1997), Andrea explains why she believes this book continues to be misread:


[I]f one's sexual experience has always and without exception been based on dominance--not only overt acts but also metaphysical and ontological assumptions--how can one read this book? The end of male dominance would mean--in the understanding of such a man--the end of sex. If one has eroticized a differential in power that allows for force as a natural and inevitable part of intercourse, how could one understand that this book does not say that all men are rapists or that all intercourse is rape? Equality in the realm of sex is an antisexual idea if sex requires domination in order to register as sensation. As sad as I am to say it, the limits of the old Adam--and the material power he still has, especially in publishing and media--have set limits on the public discourse (by both men and women) about this book [pages ix-x]."

great job john!

Dave-

Well, I pulled the comment off a website that appeared to be authentic. Of course, it is the Internet... :)

Are you sure you checked to make sure this wasn't posted/issued on April Fools? I'm a member of NOW & this is the first I've heard of it. If that's what they've taken to wasting my dues on, they must be thinking they're congress....

nancy, it is listed as satire... unless you are being silly as well.

as for the article... it's not really all that funny, but some satire isn't funny, i suppose...

Ok, the actual Dworkin quote is:

"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership."

And as far as I can tell it's an authentic quote from her book Intercourse. It's not quite 'all sex is rape', but it's close, and taken with some of her other comments about sex, that's what her statements add up to.

The Moorcock interview is part of a campaign she engaged in for the last decade or so of her life to explain and soften some of the things she wrote in the 1980s.

Dave

This is well written. It's just that something like this sounds so close to becoming true that the "satire" part can't be appreciated.

daryl... do you really think so? i sincerely doubt it.

i'm not going to say you're a woman-hater, because that would be silly, but you must understand something about women that i don't. i mean, i know they (as individuals...) can be evil... E-V-I-L... but, this sounds like more "oh poor me, i'm made to feel ashamed for my manhood" crap.

women aren't going to dismantle father's day. it is the ONLY day on the calender that celebrates manhood whatsoever. well, maybe veteren's day, but who even remembers when that is?

THINK MAYBE A GOOD OLD FASION BITCH SLAP IS IN ORDER.

True satire walks a fine line between humor and discomfiture. Too far on either side and it fails. This piece, sadly, has all the subtlety of a fart at a funeral.

WELL SLAP YOUR TITTIES SIDEWAYS.

John - priceless.

I love my wife, I love my sons, I have never raped my wife....this is the most ridiculous thing I have heard come out of n.o.w. for a long time....since they said men and women are equal!!

LOL!

Great article!

TIME Magazine recently had an article (written by women, of course) that almost makes John more of a soothsayer than a satirist...

CITE

The folks at Hallmark are going to have a very good day on June 17. That's when more than 100 million of the company's ubiquitous cards will be given to the 66 million dads across the U.S. in observation of Father's Day. Such a blizzard of paper may be short of the more than 150 million cards sold for Mother's Day, but it's still quite a tribute. What's less clear is whether dads--at least as a group--have done a good enough job to deserve the honor.

And, no, that was not satire...

What does it say about groups like NOW that we all had to go back and check to make sure it said "satire" because it was no great leap of faith to believe every word in the article?

It just goes to show you that you can't fix stupid and groups like NOW have stupid in spades.

John

A psychologist would have a field day with this. Is this a public scream, an expression of feelings of inadequacy on your part in your parenting skills? Or is it a lash out against your wife and her distrust of your weaker ability to assess the needs of your child? Or is this a commentary on your lack of adequate paternal interaction as a child?

Either way, there there....... Huuuuuuuuuuuuug!
How's that daddy feelin now? Hows that weaker gender feelin? Wooo want vaweedation? He's a big boy, yes he is! Wooo matter, yes woo do..... sigh

Arch

Not all of us had to check. Just you special ones.

You don't get what NOW is so you are all over the place. If I read something like that I would wonder what happened to them because it would be so out of character. You however just think they are bad and hate men so you have no way of assessing anything about them.

That is the problem with an emotional interpretation of things. It causes one to generalize and miss the significant details which really define the situation.

The fact that i can see something like this happening is what makes this not at all funny. So go ahead and have a chuckle while in reality there are man haters, oops...i meant to say feminist groups who would love to see this happen. What has happened to feminism? When did it stop being about being equal rights and more about extra rights? *sigh*

My old lady came home with some paper crap she picked up from some NOW place. She tried to tell me I dont respect her and treat her as equal. What kind of bull crap is that. I bitch slapped her and slapped her titties into Joebobs trailer. After that she gave me a blow job. That will teach them females from NOW.

Have you noticed the commercials on TV for ladies rings. They have the rings wrapped around this white thing that look's just like a penis. Is this a commercial for a ring or a dildo?

Hmm how do all men admit fault for the actions of other men......not every guy has done wrong lol and from here on out Im filing a suit against the bush administration to Abolish mothers day.

if they ban father's day shouldnt they ban mothers day cuz that woudl be discriminatory becuase its only for mothers..???

isn't a Mother's Day as well?

well i had to double take on this one. i was about to scream out in my house "What the hell! They have mother's day! NOW is trying to take the little thanks the good fathers actually get!" but then i noticed how it was satire.

That, is the most stupid article I've read this year.. haha. I'm a female, and I think that they're just seeing the bad side. Really, there are women who don't take care of their children, There are women that sexually abuse. It's not just men. I think the people who filed the lawsuit are descriminating against men. If they abolish father's day, they should abolish mother's day, too.

women want equal rights so they have them.
they have there mothers day and we have fathers day.
but then it just shows what women are like trying to ban one and not the other.

screw you all

That... has to be one of the most messed up things ever... Now claims that they're fighting against discrimination - so why ban Father's Day? It's not always just women who have to survive as sole parents... perhaps they should stop being so ignorant themselves...

Heck, let's just ban Mother's Day as well and call it even?

LOL WHAT ABOUT MOTHERS DAY LMAO

this must be a joke, if not join me brothers and we well rename fathers day MAN DAY, we will make the rituals include excessive drinking, dube smokin, and make all national sports leagues play a game at some point during that day (and it has to be a classic match-up)and everyone in the house is only allowed to speak when spoken to (except your buds),......honestly if this is what the ACLU does then fuck em, what a senseless waste of time, maybe women dont want men to work? have the economy collapse? live in squalor and through that be beaten and raped which happens a lot more often in impoverished countries than ours? what a joke hope those bitter dykes rot in hell, fuckin dipsticks

Wow i hope this is a joke because if not i hope the writer realizes how hypocritical not to mention it pretty much said every man is a rapist,wife beater, child molester and doesn't pay child support it also says they want to abolish Fathers Day because it acknowledges only fathers i wonder if they ever heard of Mothers Day.

i think mothers day and fathers day should be banned
it's offensive to orphans and others that have been abandoned by there neglecting parents

Either we have some incredibly stupid people commenting on this thread, or everyone fancies him(her)self a satirist.

I'm inclined to think it's the former...

OMGG what a load of shit ,if thay ban fathers day mothers day has to go 2 ,then we will see mother's all over complaning 1s more that there not repeted

why wornt thay ban them both ,,,,$$$$$$$$$ full stop
just like cigerets

plus if you whant to stop rape child mosters, becouse there all male then wake the fuck up FFS its just male my fucking hairy ass

why dont males pay there alommony probly the same reson women dont the other hafe dont deseve it and thay would rather spened it on the kids them selfs

Get rid of fathers day, the get rid of f**king mothers day, bunch of idiots! They probably feel ashamed because they cant or dont have kids. Losers!

You see most men probably wouldnt care if fathers day was banned, along with mothers day! But im sure alot of women would be upset they dont have mothers day if it was to be banned. These people seem to be talking out of their arses, and talking for every woman in the world who has kids and loves them, when the flip side is that most women probably dont give a crap about it or think its stupid to ban fathers day and not mothers day with it.

This is why there is so few female leaders!

Abolish it?? are you crazy? would you like mothers day bein axed from the calander? where do you get off? by making such mockery of the special day you're discriminating against all the fathers out there, with equal rights enforced shouldn't there be an equal number of days to honour our parents? Stop discrimination by not discriminating against others!!

I hear it every, he's discriminating me... she's discriminating me.....
there are aleays times to raise the flag of discrimination, but getting rid of fathers day is not the way to go.

It seems this whole campaign is to keep children away from their fathers for one more day of the year.

I'm not discriminating against anyone, i'm just looking outside the box.

Richard
UK

Okay so I didn't even bother reading the whole article - I guess that makes me a male chauvinistic pig (ironically, look up chauvinist - one of the definitions is "male chauvinistic pig" - recursive logic anybody?!) but aren't we forgetting something called MOTHERS DAY ??!! Or perhaps in the interests of equality we should amalgamate the two into "Parents Day" - or even better "Legal Guardians Day" but that would only work up to 18 so how about "Significant Parental Role Models Day" ??
C'mon, you're being stupid - more femenist bullshit, call me sexist, but i respect real women, not women so obsessed with their inferiority complexs that they have to blame everything on men whilst at the same time behaving in a more masculin, non-feminine manner.
I think it's high time we start the masculinist movement and burn our boxer shorts... ... ...
people are people....

Clavos #37:

Unfortunately I think some of the more juvenile site visitors, who comment voluminously on music, TV and the like but mercifully tend to steer clear of the politics section, somehow had their attention drawn* and wandered over here.

Don't worry, they'll get bored and leave soon.


*Probably while Googling "Father's Day" in search of a last-minute e-card...

hey, idiots--SATIRE. look it up.

Women do not want to be treated the same as men they just want the same pay, but they want to be treated like ladies. I can say wow look at that set of jugs to any man at work and he says Oh Ya thats nice. I say it anywhere near a women and there goes my house, job, and a mess of civil law suits. That is not equal. when I can say or do the same things in front of you that I can with my buddies thats when your equal and should be treated as such. till than waaah!

The problem with feminists and every special interest group the time to fight for eqaul rights is long gone society has so much PC in the works you can't berate, or disriminate anybody or anything(except smokers but thats another subject) without having the snot sued out of you or accusations of a hate crime. These groups are fighting for special rights now.

I think women should be shot and pissed on.

Feminists......FUCKING STUPID IDIOTS!!!!!

Fucking feminist cocksuckers....wtf is wrong with u how about mothers day huh....or how about those fathers that have done more for their kids then u and alllll ur fucking bitches put together...go suck a dick

Snicker!

Ahhhhhh the USA!

zedd... even though this is clearly marked "satire" about four times near the top and, beyond that, it should be painfully obvious to anyone with a brain that no one is going to get rid of father's day... people just don't read. and from the comments, it's pretty obvious that some of these guys have never seen why lies beneath panties, or else they would have at least a tiny bit of respect for women.

gentlemen--beyond the power of the pussy, which is awesome and never-ending in scope, women are also pretty much better than men, overall. it's not really a question. men are dull. women are... mmm, women.

more for me, i guess.

Truthsayer, equal pay for equal work. What the hell is so hard to understand about that? Its about the work. And workplaces should be as professional and comfortable in atmosphere as possible.

I'm female. If you were to say to me, "Hey, look at the jugs on that one", I'd be likely to say, "Yeah, nice rack." At least I would in a casual situation, because I've been known to glance at a nice rack from time to time. Nothing wrong with appreciating the boobage.

But in a work situation, in a professional atmosphere, I would find your comment distasteful. Just because I might appreciate a nice rack, doesn't mean the other women I work with (and perhaps many of the men) wouldn't be uncomfortable with that sort of banter.

What if a man you worked with looked at the crotch of a male passer-by and said, "Hey, look at the package on that guy!". How would you feel? As a jug-lover, perhaps you'd feel uncomfortable? Should you have to be subjected to sexual commentary that makes you uncomfortable? Should any of us?

Individuals (it isn't just about men or women) have varying degrees of sensitivity to sexual commentary. A devout christian man might be just as offended by your 'jugs' comment as any given woman. A devout christian man would probably far more offended than I would be. And that is why most workplaces have rules in place to keep the workplace pleasant for everyone. If you can't be a considerate colleague, then maybe you should find a bunch of gorillas to work with.

I just don't get it. Is it going to kill you to keep your jugs-appreciation to yourself for eight hours out of the day? Is your penis going to explode if you don't verbally express your jug-lust? Are men really that oafish and uncontrolled? If so, then maybe you should all be lobotimized and your sperm harvested for future generations.

However, I've known far too many intelligent, interesting men to believe that you're all a bunch of dumb brutes. Perhaps, truthsayer, its just you and the other few who seem to have found this article and are unable to read the word 'satire' in front of the title who are the oaves.

And as far as Father's Day is concerned, its become just another consumerism-fest. If both it and mother's day were abolished, I wouldn't bat an eyelash. I love my father and honor him in my heart and mind every day. He was a wonderful influence on me and I am grateful to have had him in my life. I don't need one day out of the year to remember him - he's with me always.

But for the mouth foamers, repeat after me, "Its only a satire. Its only a satire."

Zing you are so cool.

hmm.

Of course this is satire. My comments on this thread were not only untrue but also pure BS. When you drink rum you like to play in the sandbox. Zing has it right, just SATIRE. Doc #43. Perfect. As always you make me laugh. I wandered over here from the view. Of course old Doc prescribed a hemroid prescription for me and these suppositories are the size of a watermelon. Try to stick one of these puppies up your ass. You kids dont try this at home. I believe mother/father's day was created by Hallmark to sell billion's of greeting cards. Jeff#46. Please tell me your not serious. In truth women are God's greatest creation. Time to head inside my single wide, drink a few beer's, look for UFO's and wait for Elvis. Billybob

actually, mother's day was created by a woman after her mother died. she felt there was no day that celebrated motherhood, so she lobbied the president to create such a day. a few years later, after the greeting card, flower and chocolate companies got ahold of mother's day, the same woman lobbied the president to get rid of mother's day.

"women are also pretty much better than men, overall. it's not really a question."

So, I'm guessing you're a member of NOW?

Gotta love feminists, though. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."

Let's be honest; the only women who say that are lesbians, or ugly (or both).

Men need women. Women need men. We are both different, but equal.

And you can quote me on that.

"So, I'm guessing you're a member of NOW?"

nope. i just like the ladies. i just admit it when i'm beat. truthfully... you really don't have an inferiority complex when confronted with a well put together woman? even the best looking man don't have one damn thing on a beautiful woman. their beauty is just so much more than men's.

i mean, they're all round, got fat in all the right spots. they got the little gap. you know, the gap? damn straight you know the gap. funniest thing how a total lack of something, just a little space where light shines through, is the sexiest goddamn thing on the fuckin planet.

""A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
Let's be honest; the only women who say that are lesbians, or ugly (or both)."

no, no.... i'm sure lesbians would say it. or bitter women. but a dynamite woman? she doesn't need a thing from men. all she has to do is want it.

Firstly what about the good fathers out there that are home look after there kids and have great marriages, don't they deserve one? And wat about the stay at home dads that look after their kids everday of the year? don't they deserve one? Just because there are some men that abuse people doesn't mean you have a reason to abolish a day. Talk about women's rights what about equal opportunity if we abolish father's dat lets abolish mother's day too. What about the women that abuse there children and kill there husbands, i am sure many are for good reason but there are also many that aren't, women are just as capable of doing wrong as men are take prostitutes for example! Half of women's rights activists are all about demeaning men and their rights wake up tp yourselves and stop thinking of wat is on the news how about the people who do the right thing and award them. There is a worse problem in the world than terrorism, thats the political BS going on in our own countries. Looks like womens rights are leading the way

OMG!!!

People!! PEOPLE!!

Lighten the hell up!!!

It's freakin' S A T I R E !!!!

Look at the headline; look above the headline.

SATIRE SATIRE!!! Get it now?

Satire

Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: 'sa-"tI(-&)r
Function: noun

1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

Sheesh!

Lord, thank you for women. What gorgeous, sensual and sexy creatures you made. SENT OF A WOMEN. WOW. I love my wife more now then the day we married 26 yrs ago. Must admit no matter how old I get my eye's wander to look at a beautiful lady.

"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership."

Yeesh. Life of the party. Where can I mount my wife? She came up with this while on a mushroom trip during a gangbang she paid to join.

"My old lady came home with some paper crap she picked up from some NOW place. She tried to tell me I dont respect her and treat her as equal. What kind of bull crap is that. I bitch slapped her and slapped her titties into Joebobs trailer. After that she gave me a blow job. That will teach them females from NOW."

Yeah. I hear ya. I took mine to a local chapter and told her to bend over in front of the window. That learned them.

"I just don't get it. Is it going to kill you to keep your jugs-appreciation to yourself for eight hours out of the day? Is your penis going to explode if you don't verbally express your jug-lust? Are men really that oafish and uncontrolled? If so, then maybe you should all be lobotimized and your sperm harvested for future generations."

Um, yes and do you have a nice rack?

On a serious note: Noticed that many people leaving comments are satire-challenged.

This is silly. Fathers day is more about the children than the fathers. Fathers day gives children a chance to connect with their fathers in an otherwise alienating world.
Removing fathers day will do nothing more than punish the vast majority of fathers who do the best they can for their children, and widen the already gaping divide between the sexes.

Personally, I think we need to ban Mother's Day as well. Let's just throw them both away. Who in this world needs a day to praise their father or their mother? Such old world respect needs to be done away with... We live in a world of independence, of visionaries. We live in a world where you need to have respect only for your self, forget your parents, forget other people. You and what You think is all that matters, no one else matters and what other people think and say doesn't matter.

Children. When I was a child, I did childish things, but when I became a man(adult)I put those childish things away.

When will people learn how to get along? A laughable dream as far as the people in this world are concerned.

WHERE IS THE LONE RANGER AND TONTO WHEN WE NEED THEM THE MOST?

I'm actually a leg guy... don't even like jugs and I was using a very crude example, not to mention my lack of spelling and grammer I can't believe someone responded to tripe I wrote earlier. However despite the crude example I'm right and ya know it.

The christian guy you refer to is far less likely to complain...

Until a whiney little girl paved the way to retiremen with a lawsuit... now of course anybody would walk down that gold paved hwy but do the research yourself I will not fill the blog with sources however Sexual Harrasement related suits filed by women far outnumber those by men.

Not to mention most of you are a totally different person (usually a little illtempered) one week each month..We should get paid more to deal with that..

I know I'm a Jerk but deep down like every man I know the Women are really in charge.

You don't get what NOW is so you are all over the place."

No Zedd, I do get what NOW is, I just don't buy what they pretend to be, that's why I found the story believable.

NOW claims to be an organization devoted for the empowerment of ALL women. They claim to support all women when in fact they are nothing but a mouthpiece for the far left.

One need go no further than their webpage to see this. It is riddled with support for leftist views and there is no tolerance for open and honest dissent among the ranks of NOW.

NOW stands for National Organization for Women? So why then did NOW not come to the aid of all the women who went public after they had been sexually harassed by Bill Clinton? Why does NOW not let women who have pro-life or anti gay marriage use thier organization to express their views?

Any attempt by NOW to paint themselves as anything other than the far left mouthpiece, willing to savage any women who does not dare toe the leftist line is a complete and utter joke.

Hey Zedd....it walks like a duck but you can still keep calling it a swan.

Fathers Day and Mothers Day are there pretty much to help kids remember there parents and appreciate them personally for all the trouble we caused them. Also it seems like this group is hypocrites for the most part. Don't preach the word if ya don't live by what you preach.

Arch


NOW is for equal pay for equal work. How is that a leftist view? How does that only speak to specific women?

Mothers Day and Fathers Day are both not important.

First of all how many horrible fathers and mothers there are out there, don't give me that shit that is your mother or your father. Hallmark created Mothers Day why ? Simple stupid to increase sales for cards, now it's one big cash grab.

My mother loves me and could care less if I buy her flowers or any of that shit. Love is unconditional you should love the person all year round not just one day.

Christopher, well stated. Thank you. sr

Gloria Steinem, as a leading feminist, does offer a one-free-grope rule for all Democrat Presidents...

RJ. I thought Gloria Steinem died years ago. I conclude some liberal feminist dug up her grave, administered CPR and brought the bitch back to life. She then went to visit Bill Clinton with a gift. A box of fine cigar's. The Hilldabeast found them, tossed all her dildo's out the window and is now enjoying a great smoke.

Re #73;
So are all leading Republicans beyond reproach? How about serial adulterers Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani, who never met a grope they could resist.

"How about serial adulterers"

We are, despite the protestations to the contrary of the christers and other religious types, a secular society.

Serial adultery and serial marriage and divorce are cultural norms in our society, practiced by a substantial portion of the population, and by all political persuasions.

Hell, it's not even noteworthy anymore.

Ask any secularist.

I don't believe Newt or Rudy has ever been credibly accused of rape...or had to pay nearly a million dollars to get the plaintiff in a sexual harassment suit to shut up...

No, but they're both adulterers, from the party of "Famliy Values"...

"No, but they're both adulterers"

Along with about 50% of all married Americans. BFD.

Adultery IS a family value; if you're not in a marriage, fucking isn't adultery, it's fornication. Or fun, if you're not repressed.

Maybe you'd like to stone 'em, emmy? Didn't realize you're moslem.

Yawn.

"Along with about 50% of all married Americans. BFD."
- Clavvy

The difference being, of course, that 50% of all married Americans don't publicly espouse their own self-righteous morality while condemning others for the same indiscretions they're guilty of.

The hell they don't!

The 50% includes one hell of a lot of church goin', God-fearin', Bible thumpin' "Christians."

No, but they're both adulterers, from the party of "Famliy [sic] Values"...

Well, I suppose the Democrats have an automatic advantage there, seeing as how they don't even pretend to care about "family values" and therefore can apparently act however they want. Adultery, sexual harassment, and possible rape included.

WHAT IS A BIBLE THUMPIN CHRISTIAN?

"Well, I suppose the Democrats have an automatic advantage there, seeing as how they don't even pretend to care about "family values" and therefore can apparently act however they want."

So is that worse than Gingrich's phoney, hypocritical moral rhetoric? (see below) Although you do have a history of espousing empty words over action...

From the "Nussle and Fellow Adulterer, Newt Gingrich" web site:

"As a high school student, Newt seduced his geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, who he later married after knocking her up. The affair included night time romps in the back of the car until they got busted. While still married to Jackie, Newt hooked up with Anne Manning in D.C. and engaged in oral sex, which Newt later claimed wasn't sex because oral sex doesn't count. This was eventually coined "the Newt Defense." Gingrich later hooked up with a younger woman, Marianne, and had an adulterous affair with her until he divorced Jackie, after confronting her in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted they discuss the divorce terms he was seeking."

Ahh yes, the typical relativist attack, there is no such thing as morality because we can find someone who defends it is an apparent hypocrit.

Newt is a politician not a moral theologian. And quite frankly what he does or does not do has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on what objective moral norms are any more than they have a bearing on the theory of gravity.

"CIGARS, ANYONE?"

Newt is a politician not a moral theologian.

Fine. Then let him stick to politicking and steer clear of the moralizing.

Newt stood up for family values, but he is a disgusting hypocrite for acting in a manner inconsistent with those family values. Correct?

BJ Clinton never stood up for family values. So when he acted in a manner inconsistent with family values, it was not unexpected, and he wasn't called a hypocrite. Correct?

It's interesting to note that the bar is set higher for those politicians who support ethical and moral behavior, than it is for politicians who we expect to be unethical and amoral...

(Of course, Newt never paid nearly a million dollars to silence a woman who accused him of sexual harassment. And Newt was never credibly charged with rape.)

MCH....you're assertion that because Newt Gingrich is an adulterer no other Republicans or conservatives are all guilty by association and therefore have no right to critisize the morality of others is completely absurd.

Newt Gingrich is one man. One man who never actually lead his party unlike slick Willie, a man who has single handedly sexually harassed more women in the state of Arkansas than all of the other men in that state combined and the Dems love him for it.

RJ had it dead on. Liberals don't even pretend to have values so no one is shocked when they exhibit such ammoral behavior. As moral relativists it's expected of them.