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Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:30:33 EDT

DBM#81. IM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

Comment by Brian Fraser on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:22:09 EDT

The debate needs new titles. Call Evolution, "Theory of gradual appearance of life" and Creation, "Theory of sudden appearance of life". What would you do with "Scriptural Physics"? Is it science or religion? It offers valuable insights in physics. Should students be "exposed" to it or "protected" from it?

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:33:24 EDT

Doc, that's the best ammo you have. Intellectual laziness. You truly are a funny guy.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:12:05 EDT

#85: So that's what lies behind creationism: intellectual laziness.

Comment by Elroy Balgaard on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:07:47 EDT

Wondering if Adam and Eve had belly buttons, is a smaller hoop to jump through than a lizard giving birth to a bird.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:46:30 EDT

If Adam and Eve were created as adult's did they have a belly button or a need for one? Should you not believe they were created and your belief is in the theroy of evolution their would be no need to respond.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:08:00 EDT

MBD. GO FIGURE.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:33:00 EDT

SteveS. I hate freaking monkeys. Where I live in Florida the Rhesus monkeys run all over the forest and bite the crap out of you. I have shot many of the little shits. Come to Florida and I'll take you hunting for the varmits. If your not into hunting you can toss them a few grapes.

Comment by MBD on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:29:51 EDT

#74 — June 3, 2007 @ 23:59PM — SteveS Steve S commented... "Oh, sr, now I understand. No, it wasn't the numbers of the chapters that confused me. I didn't know that was an actual question, I thought it was rhetorical." #75 — June 4, 2007 @ 00:09AM — MBD MBD responded... "Oh, sr, now I understand. No, it wasn't the numbers of the chapters that confused me." No. It's just everything else. #79 — June 4, 2007 @ 18:11PM sr interjected... "MBD stopped being confused" --- sr couldn't comprehend who said what to whom... Let's see if sr can figure it out now.

Comment by SteveS on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:19:35 EDT

No, not a born again Christian, I don't recall ever saying that. If I did, I must have been having a vision. I was raised as a Christian and on true Christian principles, and I have my own faith. I do not go to church as I do not believe in organized religion. I can't comment on the other thread anymore, it won't load for me for some problem, once it gets up to about 190 comments. However this could be proof of evolution: Monkeys can comprehend economics and use money for sex. ...During the chaos in the monkey cage, Chen saw something out of the corner of his eye that he would later try to play down but in his heart of hearts he knew to be true. What he witnessed was probably the first observed exchange of money for sex in the history of monkeykind. (Further proof that the monkeys truly understood money: the monkey who was paid for sex immediately traded the token in for a grape.)

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:11:15 EDT

SteveS. Just one thing. You say your are a born again Christian. How in the world did you arrive at this. Most people say Jesus is a fable/fantasy. That being true how can you be a Christian. This is not logical. Im confused. I also dont know about God talking to anyone. I wasen't their. Like I said if God didn't write the bible put in in your outhouse. Why would you put your trust in what man writes. Why should I put my trust in this thread. Why would anyone in their right mind put their trust in fallible humans and use the bible as a guide. A guide for what? Just trust me SteveS. I'll be glad to guide you. I am all knowing. Doc and Clavos, my work is not done. I rest on the seventh day funny men. MBD stopped being confused and thanks again. I put my trust in guns and gold. Lets go hunting boys and girls.

Comment by SteveS on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:38:15 EDT

It does seem that legitimate discussion is discouraged by some now, and that others want to just make comments but not debate anymore. Is that why this site is much slower than a few years ago?

Comment by Clavos on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:20:07 EDT

Props to Dr. D. for #76.

Comment by Dr Dreadful on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:14:38 EDT

Comments #65 through #75: ...And sr's work is done. Steve and MBD, by this time you should really see him coming.

Comment by MBD on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Mon, 4 Jun 2007 00:09:38 EDT

"Oh, sr, now I understand. No, it wasn't the numbers of the chapters that confused me." No. It's just everything else.

Comment by SteveS on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:59:04 EDT

Oh, sr, now I understand. No, it wasn't the numbers of the chapters that confused me. I didn't know that was an actual question, I thought it was rhetorical. You are asking me if God was talking to scum or Adam and Eve. This is the question? The answer is neither, because: 1) Adam and Eve are a parable or a fable, or as you put it, a fantasy. They never existed. We evolved. 2) God never talked to anybody. That part of the bible is no more literal than the whole 6 day thing. It's odd that God talked to everybody in the Bible on an almost daily basis, either by burning bush or by blasting his cliff notes into the mountainside or whatever but then just quit talking to humans? The answer to your question is none of the above, sr. I am not a literalist. God did not write the bible, humans did. Fallible humans. We can use the Bible to guide us, but not to dictate to us verbatim. I hope I answered your question now. If you really want to know who he was actually talking to, then you will need to ask someone who believes the bible literally. That would not be me, nor would it be a Creationist, as they only take Creation literally but pick and choose parts of the rest of the bible.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:01:08 EDT

My comment#65 should be corrected from Genesis 2 to Genesis 1 but still the same verses. 26 and 28. Sorry about that SteveS. Now I understand your confusion. The rest of my comment is still good to go. Thank MBD for pointing this out to me. Hey blogcritics why dont you correct this for me. Im not about to type this again. If you do I'll send you a free bible and cookies.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 22:47:34 EDT

MBD, Your right dude. My mistake. Genesis 1 verse 26 and Genesis 1 verse 28. Sorry about that to all I have cofused including SteveS. Like I said Im no student of the bible. MBD thank you for pointing this out to me. Sincerely, sr

Comment by MBD on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 22:14:13 EDT

sr... In #65 you refer to Genesis 2 verse 26. Chapter 26 doesn't exist. The last verses in Chapter 2 are 24 and 25: "24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. 25 The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame." In #70 you refer to Genesis 26-28. That doesn't make any sense in this context. It reads: "26 Meanwhile, Abimelech had come to him from Gerar, with Ahuzzath his personal adviser and Phicol the commander of his forces. 27 Isaac asked them, "Why have you come to me, since you were hostile to me and sent me away?" 28 They answered, "We saw clearly that the Lord was with you; so we said, 'There ought to be a sworn agreement between us'--between us and you. Let us make a treaty with you." Perhaps these references make sense in the bible you wrote.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:07:43 EDT

Another day SteveS. My question as I stated was concerning Genesis,verses 26 and 28 and I wanted you to respond to the question that perplexis me. You know, Adam and Eve and the scum thing. Simple enough dont you think. In other words was this God speaking to scum or did he wait for Adam and Eve to evolve and speak to them. Of course this all depends on your trust if the bible is the word of God or should it be used in your outhouse like a Sears catalog. Of course you may perfer corncobs like me. Except you cant read corncobs doing your duty. Later dude.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:38:59 EDT

Goodnight Sir.

Comment by SteveS on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:27:55 EDT

I believe I answered your questions. If there is one I missed, feel free to point it out. Where I come from, debate and disagreement do not equal fighting, but then again I'm not a Creationist, so perhaps that's where the lines of communication break down. For them it's pretty clear that disagreement or debate = attack and fighting.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:25:23 EDT

Dear SteveS. That was the answer I expected from you knowing you never would answer the questions I asked you. Lets just call it a night. Many years ago this man told me he was about to get in a fight and told the other man just go tell your friends you kicked my ass and I'll tell my friends I kicked your ass. No blood shed. Makes sence to me. Take care my friend and have a great weekend.

Comment by SteveS on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:57:32 EDT

One thing I do know sir is never get into discussions over politics and religion. But then what do you discuss here at BC? So my dear sir, why are you a Christian? There is faith/spirituality, and there is religion. They are as different as night and day. This thread really isn't the place to discuss my theology, but quickly, since I do discuss religion on the appropriate threads here, I was raised a Christian and I do believe in the Christian principles. I also believe that God gave us free will and the ability to think for ourselves. I think organized religion runs counter to that, so I do not go to a church. I don't pray before every meal, nor do I clasp my hands and pray at night. I don't believe in fire and brimstone and Adam and Eve. I believe these are like psalms or parables for us. Organized religion is handing your beliefs over to another to shape and mold, and that certainly isn't what ANY diety would want. Organized religion is evil, and always causes oppression and suffering in the world. There is not one instance where it does not. A person's faith belongs to him and him alone and any society built on faith is a society of oppression. Never has it been otherwise. And that is why I always fight people who would instill their beliefs in the public square. I do not believe in Creationism, and I know it for what it is, nothing more than a belief system, which has no place in science or the public school system. You can tell when a person's faith is their own, or when it is dictated to them by others, for when it is put on trial, it is the latter who feel persecuted and attacked.

Comment by sr on Los Angeles Times Chastises Creationists

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:20:48 EDT

SteveS#51. One thing I do know sir is never get into discussions over politics and religion. Does Christions beliveing in evolution surprise me. Of course not. It's called theistic evolution or evolutionary creationism. Sure I should get out more, however, I'm afraid to leave the confines of my cave. I do not call myself a Christian nor am I worthy of being a Christian. Very seldom do I pick up a bible let alone read it. Due to your comment which I sincerely thank you for, I read something from Genesis today. This is from Genesis 2 verse 28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful,and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: In Genesis 2 verse 26 God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Now not being a student of the bible by any means this is what perplexis me. In saying "our," did God tell this to primordial scum that wouldn't know a roll of toilet paper from the library of congress, did he say it to Adam and Eve after they evolved millions of years later and had an understanding of lanquage, or did God tell the scum to stay out of the fruit trees. I know Adam and Eve are just a fantasy and so do you, and I also think the Bible is a fantasy. So my dear sir, why are you a Christian? As for what the pope belives, Frankly Scarlett I dont give a damn.