i like it!

three instrumentals? excellent.

And it's gone! Hope whoever wanted to hear it got to download it because Rush's web team pulled the single off the site. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back soon, probably embedded in a Flash player like it should have been from the start (why they didn't do this first, I can't imagine.)

'Test' is a low point? Wow....

Yes, a definite low point - some of Neil's worst lyrics, some uninspired playing ("Limbo" being one of Rush's worst songs ever,) but on the upside, it gave us some great songs, too - "Driven," "Half the World," and a few others will forever be among my Rush favorites, of which there are many. But the album as a whole is a dud - and that is a view shared with many Rush fans.

I heard Far Cry on rush.com (embedded like it should have been) last night. It's some of the best to come from the trio in a long time. Geddy and Alex have consistently improved over the past few albums while Neil seemed to regress in his efforts. Judging from far Cry it seems the new album has put them all back on track.

Vapor Trails was "over-produced" with too many layers of bass and guitar. We as fans were so starved for new material that we really didn't care. Some cool stuff on VT but there was nothing amazing or out of the box.

As far as low points, I would agree that Test For Echo was a low point; but, it wasn't as low as Caress of Steel.

What do you think?

Oh please not more Vapor Trails type material.Please do a prog album,bring back the keyboard or I'll buy Porcupine Tree instead,I'm warning you.I'll I'll do it!

Simon, you're going to be waiting a long time - Rush is never going to do another prog album, thankfully. That phase is long, LONG behind them. Rush is a better, stronger band for it, too.

And, please do go buy Porcupine Tree albums - they're a fantastic band that has turned out great album after great album.

O.k. here is my take on Rush over the last four albums. First off I will rewind and say Hold your fire, Presto and Roll the Bones are clearly BRILLIANT. I want to see more work like that. I'm not sure why there is this organic non-keyboard movement within Rush, but its frusturating. NEIL NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THE BACK SEAT as well. Where is the busy, action packed, creative drumming he's known for. Counterparts has moments and overall is Good in my opinion. T4E on the other hand, was a sell out and too commercial. DOG YEARS ??. I also did not get Vaper Trails. Again, the cd has its moments like in Ghost Rider and Vaper Trails itself however most of the songs just sound weird and loose there appeal quickly. Alex can't play either on any of the four latest albums, including far cry. So far I see far cry as a shot in the dark. The song is boring again, with Neil in the back seat and Alex trying to play. I don't know what the band was hyping this album up so much. To me if they don't get back to writing like Hold your fire and Roll the bones, they mise well retire. By the way I LOVE RUSH and Neil and Mike Portnoy are my favorite drummers, however Neil has not been producing. MORE ACTION MORE ACTION !!!!

After waiting nearly five years, I have finally heard the lastest work from Rush. Or should I say, after waiting over 14 years, I finally heard some old Rush. 1993 marked a year which Rush went back to their roots, powerful chord driven songs, lengthy guitar solos, Jazz inspired instrumentals, and an innovative approach in the overall production of their sound. Recently hearing "Far Cry" the familiar feelings of that great effort in "Counterparts" has surfaced. "Far Cry" is a close call to Rush at their very best. Here is my overall evalutaion of this piece of work: The track opens in a similar fashion of Rush's work in the late 70's, with guitar tones fimilar to "Hemispheres". Once groove is established, the sound stays to Rush's heavy roots but also sounds very modern and remains consistant to the band's trademark sound. At the vocals start, we hear Geddy Lee at his best, soulful and stylistic with his delivery. The "hooks" of heavy guitar and drum pounds add to the depth and darkness which is the overall feel and theme of this number. The chorus arrives just in time to add color and melody to the odd arrangement (and still nobody pulls this off quite like Rush). The arrangement is well thought out, although simple, the presentaion of this tracks is what makes it as enjoyable as it is. The ending may well be one of my all time favorites. Neil Peart really shines here, pounding away, jumping out in front with controlled aggression, he truly keeps you on the edge of your seat wondering "what's next" and he seems to have all the answers. The production sounds amazing. Guitars are heavy and driving while the bass compliments and balances the powerhouse sound of Neil's drums. Alex Lifeson, (who I have always felt was one of the most underrated guitar players of all time) once again creativity shines and his sense of knowing what to play and when to play it still proves strong. This is a great taste of what I feel will be one of the greastest Rush efforts of all time. Enjoy friends, I sure am!

I wouldn't call Test for Echo a low point, for me Rolls the Bones was their low point. Rush is by far my favorite band, but there are a very small handful of songs that I just don't like - most of them are on Roll the Bones. Their worst song ever ... "Dog Years" - ironically off of Test for Echo. Does anybody like that song?

Again, John Signorella (anove)

Simplicity (as Neil once said himself) can be beautiful, but in the case of the last 3 albmums and the one song far cry they are just two simplistic. You can describe it anyway you want, and I don't really care the song is returning to the Hemisphere hard roots. LETS TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. This CD is nothing more than a contiuation of the crap they have been putting out. I want more intricate parts and more original work. I think Geddy and Alex hold Neil back. Also, Geddy needs to stay within his vocal range. When he sings like he did on Hold your fire, Presto and RTB he sang well. I don't like the high pitch falsetto he has been using.

(READ MY OTHER COMMENTS ABOVE)

Actually, Tony, if anything, it's Neil that's holding the other guys back. He's the one that put the band on hold in late 90s and has pretty much been making the decisions on whether they continue or not, not the other way around. Alex and Geddy have been gung-ho for anything Neil's ready for. Neil's been stating for years that he's getting tired and old, and after his wife and daughter died, he completely stopped playing drums all together. I think we're lucky they've managed to record two albums and the surprise covers EP at all, actually.

As for T4E being a sell out . . . no, anything but. It was just a stumble, pure and simple. This band doesn't know how to sell out. T4E was just the sound of a tired band. Had Neil's unfortunate tragedies not occured, I think we'd have seen the band simply break up because they were just out of ideas. Vapor Trails, although you somehow seem to hate it, was the freshest thing they'd recorded in nearly 12 years. It's counted as a career highlight by a majority of fans and even casual listeners enjoy it. It's unfortunate that you can't hear its brilliance and the passion that is driving it, but some people are just deaf to those things. Maybe some day you'll wake up to what's really going on in VT. I envy you on that day when VT finally comes alive to you.

Heck, after all these years and all the wonderful songs Rush has graced us with, I couldn't care less what "style" they're playing. I just want the song to appeal to a broader fan base. I think Far Cry can do it. Hopefully more people can embrace and appreciate the greatness that is Rush. And maybe those guys at the Rock n Roll HoF will listen up as well.

Tom Johnson,

Your missing the point. You must watch American Idol and have no opinion on what good music is suposed to sound like. First of all, I am gratefull the band is back together NO FAULT OF NEIL's. He could not and did not hold the band back. If you lost what he lost, I'm sure you'd do the same. When I say hold back, I meant musically Alex only seems to know how to play rhythem guitar, and is scared to solo anyomore. Geddy is trying to sing way out of his vocal range and decieded to leave keyboards out of the picture. Neil is a great drummer always has been. Have you seen Anatomy of a drum solo? What work is Alex and Geddy show casing? NOTHING!! That's because they are less talented and prefer simplictic songs now. You can ASSUME RUSH is tired and old, however I disagree. They have simply become LAZY and complacent on creating average music, much like the shit you listen to on American IDOL. I don't care "at least there putting out CD's" as you put it. When you write, you should make sure what you create is GREAT always, otherwise get out of the business. I would like to see Rush end their career on a high note not simply fade away. It seems you just have begun to accept the shit they have been putting out. We all know Rush has the capability to create great music, I just have not seen or heard it on the last 3 and now 4th album. VAPER TRAILS IS WEIRD ADMIT IT ITS OK TO ADMIT WHEN A BAND DOES NOT WRITE WELL. Peaceable Kingdon?? song sucks. Ceiling Unlimited ?? Geddy sounds like he has a bananna shuved up his ass. Can you give me an instance where ANY of the members have shined on the last 3 albums. Where is the action packed business we love and the intricate songs. Go back to your collection and focus on Hold your fire, Preto and T4E and then come and talk complacent bitch.

I think most of us would agree that we have been starving over the past 3 albums for a more "dynamic" album. By dynamic I mean not just throwing in some instrumentals to mix in something to change the tempo of the other similarly paced tracks.

The early beauty of Rush was their ability to carve an awesome tune out of slow and fast moments peppered with Geddy's unique vocals. Test for Echo and songs like "Carve Away the Stone" make me hit the skip button, with regret of course. I'm hoping that the fact that they recorded this album in 30 days will have made for a musical environment of happy accidents. It seems to me that they have tried unnecasarily to layer overly produced tracks on top of Neil's complex lyrics. I want the simple back. The simple with the complex that kicks other bands asses. I have a good feeling about Snakes and Arrows. I don't want to hit the skip button anymore...

Dwight, Finally someone with some music sense [Personal attack deleted] and I agree. I hope for the best with the new one, however so far far cry is unimpressive. The single first track should knock you on your ass. This one left me scratching my head.

All of you people bring up good points, especially when you don't uselessly argue...

I want to bring up something else: the evident evolution the band has gotten through. Through the the years, not a single album has looked like the precedent, and I think that's what makes the charm of this band. We will all agree that the trio is growing quite old and that the ideas might start to flow less fluently, but still, after like 35 years, they manage to write some brilliant, DIFFERENT. By that, I mean that there will be no more Moving Pictures kind of album, but man, does that Far Cry song rock! It's refreshing!

I can get back home, I can get back home...

[Edited]

Well, Tony... someone's gotten awful upset by an album he claims he doesn't even care that much about. Tony, are you related to Neil, by chance? It seems you're taking any criticism of Neil a little too personally. I think maybe you need to take a step away from the music and the computer for a little while. Go take a walk, get yourself a little candy bar and nice soft drink, sit down by a nice tree, and enjoy the cool breeze, and maybe not think about Rush for a little while. Maybe repeat the mantra "I am not Rush, Rush is a band, I am but a single person unrelated to Rush in any way whatsoever except that I have purchased their music, tickets, and memoribilia" until it actually means something to you.

And anything on Vapor Trails "weird"? Tony, you definitely don't have a clue about what weird music is.

As for Geddy's singing, he simply doesn't have the range anymore, Tony. I know, I know, there I go again, criticizing. You're asking a band to perform at a level they simply can't go back to - they may be able to play the instruments with the same dexterity, but if Geddy can't hit those notes (and he can't) then they have to change things around. Their music has changed to suit his lower range. You don't like it. Perhaps it's time to move on from Rush's new music and reminisce about the days of Rush you actually enjoyed? And might I suggest not taking personally the criticism of bands you enjoy? It's probably not good for your heart. It's just music, man.

I've given Far Cry a decent listen now over the last 24 hours and it's certainly catchy. Production quality is better than VT and the directness makes it quite accessible. Will certainly be good to sit with the whole album in due course.

I too am a 30 year plus fan and probably listen to Signals, GUP and Power Windows more than anything else. The thing I feel over the last 10-15 years is the band have moved back to a more direct three piece set-up, cranking the amps and driving a very direct, hard sound into their albums. Alex commented a number of years ago about enjoying the feeling of his pants flapping because of the amps.

The material from 1978-1987 for me was their greatest, there was a complexity and a self-styled arrogance that was just sublime. Subtle, complex, elegant, cultured. The latter albums lack that charm for me, although some very strong material is in there: Bravado for example, but I struggle to name a real classic since Middletown Dreams!! IMHO....

But, to be honest, I am just glad the guys are still doing this, they have been massively inspirational to my maturity over the years, I will enjoy reading the lyrics when they appear and hopefully the album as a whole will be an all round enjoyable listening experience!!

Maybe there will be a real classic in there that ends up on my top 25 Playlist on my Ipod.

I'm now absolutley convinced.

Tom Johnson (American Idol fan) does not have a clue what it means to be a fan, to be passionate about something, to have conviction, and have an opinion of music.

You can make retarded jokes and make light of the situation, however you probably should not have opened up your mouth. You clearly don't have facts to back it up. You don't even really seem like a Rush fan. Shit, you don't seem to know anything about music at all. Go back to being a wanna-be editor or whatever it is you do.

The bottom line, and many will agree. Rush have taken the back seat on every aspect of playing. LOOK AT THE ROLLING STONES FOR PEATS FUCKEN SAKE... THERE OLD. Look, its not that there too old to continue, they j u s t h a v e g o t t e n LAZY or decieded to go a different direction (the commercial direction) Someone mentioned Rush does not know what it means to sell out. BULLSHIT. It eventually happens to all artists.

Tom, believe it or not I am calm and I have a life outside of music, but you see when you are passionate about something and some jack-ass comes along who doesn't know anythng you have to set them straight.

I am not related to Neil or pretend to be. I just don't like when ignorance is spued.

Do you know GEDDY? How the fuck do you know he does not have the range anymore. Also, I was complaining about the fact that he trys to extend his range too high and probably should not, hence he should tone down his notes. dipshit.

Their music has changed to suit his lower range????

Again, do you know the band personally???

The music changed because they made a concious decision to. (to become commercial) That's all. no mystery man.

It's "JUST MUSIC" to people who don't really have an opinion. period.

And your the one yourself who bashed Rush above in a very uninformed way. If you read Neil's book Roadshow, again you would understand what "working them angels" meant. That is actually a cool title for a song. dipshit.

Anyway, I will refrain from further criticism of Tom Johnson, since he can't seem to handle when someone sets him straight.

Tony

Sigh . . . it's unfortunate Tony's barbs at me got edited out by the editors. Please note that I didn't and wouldn't request that. I thought they were pretty funny, and I disagree with this policy of editing comments unless someone specifically requests it.

As for being a "fan" of Rush, one of the ways I can demonstrate is the fact that I have a bunch of bootlegs from every tour that show how Geddy's vocal range is not what it used to be. I don't know why this is so upsetting to you, Tony. This happens to all vocalists - they get older, their range diminishes. Usually they continue to try singing in their old register, making fools of themselves, rather than making great new music that takes advantage of their new vocal range like Geddy has. However, he occasionally still tries to hit those really high notes and when they've done those songs live, Geddy's vocals crumble. I don't understand why I'm no longer a fan of my favorite band just because I can actually point out some flaws.

Tony, before you start labeling again, why not click the link in the box above and read some of my reviews? I think you'll be quite surprised at how mainstream my interests are . . . not.

Well, I'm off to watch American Idol!

Tom,

It's now not about music anymore and I no longer am going to bicker back and forth. I'm not trying to win an argument or change your opinion. I was mearly trying to correct some points of yours that were not correct. I too criticise the band for there recent shotcomings and that is not what I'm upset about. I'm just trying to express my opinion of what they need to work on.

Anyway, after all of that.... I'm actually starting to like the new track Far Cry :) I from the begining have taken it for face value. As a song that is part of a larger collection, which contains absolute astounding jewels. My only complaint is I know Rush still has the ability to HOLD THEIR FIRE AND KEEP IT BURNING BRIGHT. I have accepted Far Cry as a amp blasting jean rippling straight forward approach to hard roots rock (much like the 70s produced), but a part of me will always anticipate the Bravado's, the Pass's and everything Hold your fire, Counterparts, Presto and RTBones has to offer. Its difficult for a fan to really enjoy a period of music from one of your favorite bands and then watch them turn in a different direction. The music from that period and even Power Windows had such great songs that were well organized, intricate, complex yet simplistic, and most importantly had interesting vocal, guitar and drum work.

I hope I have to eat my words and am not too proud to do so, if Snakes and Arrows is good. I hope on May 1, I'm pleasantly surprised.

I just don't want to hear another Led Zepplin type Vaper Trails 70s retro simplistic type CD that will reach EVERYONE.

Part of listening to Rush was always special in that it WAS NOT for everyone.

Let's hope the new material we keep the flame burning bright.

Tony

Tom,

By the way, the comments I said that were edited were actually supposed to just be humor. Nothing personal as with none of my expressed opinions. Even if you are an american idol.

Tony

ass weeds ass weeds we like ass weed. Please don't edit this... Tom and I think its funny

You guys are talking about low point for Rush, and I think Presto is not their best album, Hold Your Fire can be also counted. But so far, Far Cry is an awesome song! For Vapor Trails, I would love to hear Freeze live, I love that song.

Then again, Rush has to come to Japan or Korea for me to see them. Hopefully they jump toward the West and play for Tokyo fans! I'll be there if they plan to play anywhere around here.

I forgot to add my info, sort of like AA meetings:

My name is Arnie, I have been listening to Rush since Moving Pictures (1980). Red Barchetta is my favorite song, and Permanent Waves is my favorite album. I've seen Rush live since the Test for Echo tour in 1996, Ice Palace in Tampa. Seen then Jones Beach, Vapor Trails tour, and back in Tampa on their 30th Anniversary Tour.

Again, my prayers will be that they play in Tokyo, Seoul, or any other big city here on side of the world, maybe Sydney.

Well, Vinnie, you're in the minority. There's obviously always going to be some difference of opinion, but among the majority of hard-core Rush fans, Presto is considered a high-water mark. It's kind of a sign that you're in "the club" - it seems that if you get it, you're one of the really dedicated, deep-in fans. It's not for casual listeners, probably; however, it was the album that got me into the band way back in 1989, so maybe that's not true. It may not be one to rock out to, but it's surely their classiest, most beautiful album to date. It is still #1 for me. I doubt anything will ever top it, and that's not nostalgia talking.

Tom,

What you just said was beautiful. That is exactly what I mean when I say Presto is amoung the best. There is something about Presto and RTB as well ( I think of the two as a pair of twins ) Both CD's are classy, beautiful, Geddy shines on those CDs. Alex actually plays wonderfully on both accounts. And of course (and by the way I drum as a hobby, that's why I love NEIL ) Neil shines. The first CD that got me into these guys was RTBones. I listened to that disk on a road trip, when I was 17. I was traveling dowm to Virginia Beach with a guy I grew up with and we were without any parents. To be 17 in a car at the end of the summer traveling to Virginia ( a place I never been) listening to RTBones was simply magical.. I will never forget the line in Dreamline "When we are young....Wandering the face of the earh...." I really related to that line at the time and was full of adventure. That CD had tone TONS of nostalgia for me. They all do in some regard. But the Hold your fire, RTB, Presto, Coundterparts era (Counterparts actually being the first CD into the organic era we are currently in) were so great. I first saw Rush during there Counterparts tour. WHAT A GREAT CONCERT. They still used there elaborate stage setups and there was a crispness to there music. I have seen them every tour since, but the one thing I notice is that this movement towards organic power chords root rock is that the concerts have been cranked way up too loud. I know that is for the jeam rippling effect and also to showcase there power, but they did not need all that ampage with the Presto and RTBones efforts. They just played and were firing on all cylinders without the ampage.

Anyway, Tom... I have settled our differences in opinion and you now have earned some respect in my book. YOU ARE NO LONGER AN AMERICAN IDOL FAN :).

Lets hope we can have some great songs like those of the past on the new CD.

Bye the way. Thanks for not editing my somewhat rude comments above BC music.

Tony

O.k.

I think I can now fully digest the new song. However, there are yet more grips to be made, which may spin the discussion in a different way.

Can anyone chime in and explain for me why Geddy must dub backing vocals (although they sound good) in where-ever the keyboards used to be?

And why Alex had simply decieded to stop soloing? I read in an interview that it was a concious effort on his part to put guitars in the back seat, however Snakes and Arrows will be different. He was going to surprise everyone.

Also, Production goes a long way. The last 2 albums and now this one seem to lack good production. For instance Resist on my DVD of Rush in Rio when piped through my stereo sounds AMAZING. Its just acoustic guitar and Geddy and still sounds 20 times better than Test for Echo version.

You would think in this day and age with technology and Rush's status they could get at least the production down, or find someone who can. Vapor Trails was the worst selling Rush CD of all time, and alot may have to do with the sloppy production. The good songs on the CD would be more listenable and likable if they SOUNDED GOOD. RUSH PLEASE TAKE NOTE.

RUSH very simple, we want Alex to solo again, we would like the keys back in moderation, we would like for NEIL to perform like he does in the Anatomy of a drum solo ( free-form section ) on the actual Rush cd's and for peats SAKE please PRODUCE THE CD SO IT SOUNNDDDSSS GGOOOODDDD!!!!!

Comments/suggestions welcome to help me get past this inconveinant truth and listening to the new material.

RUSH IS THE GREATEST BAND ON EARTH!! !THERE SINGLE FAR CRY IS AMAZING!!!


NEIL PEART IS THE BEST DRUMMWER IN THE WORLD!!!!
IAM GING TO THE CONCERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have seen them every tour since permanent waves. Do you guys remember what that album was about? that, as observed by Geddy and Neil, especially the music industry, things seemed to react like waves, they would come and go..music styles etc.etc.
Someone on this string mentioned Presto...I remember listening to "Scars" the first time and thinking "what the hell is this? Disco?"
in fact, during that tour, they lowered the protective netting in front of the stage! hahaha. but to everyones suprise..that song live kicked Ass! The point is, give it time boys, it, as most rush songs, will grow on you

p.s. Tony,...use spell check please.

In all honesty,the first few times that I heard far cry I was let down.Now after about 15 listens I am in love with most of it.I have been a Rush fan for 14 years starting with counterparts in 93. I had moving pictures and chronicles on cassette at the time.But then Stick It Out was on the radio one day and me not knowing who it was found out it was Rush.I was taken away because here was such a heavy sounding song comming from a band 19 years old or so to speak.That christmas I recieved around $130 or so and what I did was drove straight to circuit city and bought every Rush cd there.My collection is 200 or better now.
We are Rush fans.some aren't.We are along for the ride.If Rush were to read these comments and think
that they should start doing what their fans want,
I would then call them a sell out.I hear Rush a certain way.I listen to no band the way I listen to Rush.I am eager to hear anything they put together.There are songs I don't listen to but I preach to whomever will listen.These guys are absolutely fantastic at what they do.They don't show off.Geddy is often cited on the bass.He never goes off on it at shows [solo wise].It isn't because can't.Same with Alex.
Peace on
RUSHNUT420

Patrick, please continue with the "lowered the protective netting" when they played "Scars" part. I saw Rush on the Presto tour and they definitely did not do this in Phoenix. I have no idea if you're serious; if you are, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'd like to know more about what you're talking about. "Scars" is a masterpiece, a lot of fans would like to see it back on the setlist - Neil's playing there is incredible to see live.

'Far Cry' is pretty fresh sounding to me and that is after quite a few listens so it's a good'un. Sounds from the mp3 that is much better in quality than any of VT (a great direct album with some of neil's best lyrics marred by too much layering of sounds and distorted sound quality) tracks. Yes, there is layering on 'Far Cry' but it's less cluttered and more punchy.

Rush changed in a way i did n't like with Presto and Roll the Bones (they were way too commercial and sounded sterile overall, however at least Rush were trying something new). Counterparts was pretty strong, however TFE to me was complacency defined.

VT turned this around-it sounded that they had the 'fire' back (however, they were complacent on what was an acceptable sound quality, and joined the bandwagon of no solos, remember metallica's 'st anger'?). 'Feedback' was just fun, pure and simple. My hope is that on 'Snakes and Ladders' they have that hyperactive spark they had between 2112-Signals (and to a lesser extent GUP-HYF) and they let rip not only on instrumentals.

Tom, on the Presto tour they did do scars and did lower some sort of large screen about 2 minuts into the song.I didn't witness this in person but I posess 2 bootleg shows that display that.I am extremely upset that I never had the privlege to see it for Scars is my favorite rush song.If you have the right system that song souds incredible.
Dan

As a long time Rush fan and one who has seen them 13 times since '84, I believe that the new single is hook filled and song driven. Oh and the drums are far from simple - let's move on. I know there are the flat earth fans who wish it was still 1978 - it's 2007! Bands evolve and artists (so should their fans) should always challenge themselves to move in different directions, to varying degrees of success in Rush's case. "Vapour Trails" was the freshest I've heard them in 20 plus years and the most "real" ever. You want to hear the solos and crazy drumming - go see them live, as for now they are working on songwriting. Lest we forget it's the songs we love. "Constant change is here to stay... "

Well, Dan, I stand corrected. I honestly can't remember the presence of a screen, but then we're talking about something seen almost 17 years ago! (I'm really only into the audio bootleg collecting - I just don't have time to watch videos, unfortunately.) I do have a very, very grainy video of Presto tour video, so I'll have to check that out and see for myself.

FYI to those complaining about the band "holding back" musically (or worse yet, "losing talent"), it's often the record companies who decide things like whether or not to allow guitar solos in their recordings, or how much or little of a musician's chops to showcase. Anyone who's seen Rush live in recent years will know that they can still play some mean music. Regardless of whether Alex or even Raskulinecz had wanted to add a guitar solo to Far Cry, the execs at Atlantic wouldn't have it because: 1) Far Cry is the lead single for this album, 2) the goal is to appeal to broader audiences and make money with this single, and 3) unfortunately, intricate Alex-style guitar solos aren't the "in" thing in 2007 like they were in the late 70s/early 80s. Will Rush fans care about moneymaking trends? No. Will big-time record companies like Atlantic? Yes, unfortunately -- they have potential new fans to impress. Let's just hope the other songs on the album were treated more liberally.

Good article, and despite the lack of guitar soloing, I think Far Cry is Rush's best song in 20 years. There's more to music than just technique and mechanics (and I have a music degree, so please save the "you don't know about good music" comments). Far Cry has a richness and honesty that you simply don't always hear out of Rush.

Alex, Rush is no longer under those kinds of constraints - they turn in whatever they feel like turning in, the label puts it out knowing their fans are going to buy it. New young bands are at the mercy of labels, but Rush is far, far beyond those kinds of restraints. There are fewer guitar solos today because that's the way the band wants it.

Tom, so you are saying that I'm not on the club? Well, I for one didn't like the years when Rush were using keyboards a lot to define their music. From GUP to Presto, Rush was basically depending more on synthesizers (they used it before, like in Hemispheres, Tom Sawyer, Xanadu), however the music I grew up was hard acoustic rock. Like I said, Red Barchetta is my favorite Rush song. Roll the Bones came, and the group started to rock a little harder; Counterparts was even better; T4E was not that great, but this was the CD that made me experience Rush live for the first time in my life, so it has a place in my heart; Vapor Trails was a great album; and I expect Snakes & Arrows to be even greater. Again, I love all Rush CD's. I believe I am one of the few who thinks Caress of Steel was one of the best they did, and determined their approach to one of the classiest albums of all time, 2112. There are a few songs from HYF and Presto that I like, but I don't need to be in the club if I don't appreciate these two.

RUSH RULES!!!!!

Well, Arnie, we won't hold it against you, since you are a Rush fan to begin with, but we might scoff and point at you when you're not looking. ;-)

I must point out, however, that Presto is really not all that dependent on keyboards - it's just a lot of layering of acoustic, electric, and general guitar effects going on there (and, of course, some piano-keyboard stuff, but not the keys of the previous 3 albums.)

I'm positive about the net being lowered on Scars during the Presto tour. Veterans Memorial Collossium was the venue and it was one of the last Rush Tours at that venue. What a shame...that place had that perfect old "rock show vibe". Now we suffer in August usually, outdoors at Cricket Pavillion...
(did I mention Phoenix?..."jungle hot...Tarzan would think its hot...) Anyways, I was not meaning to take anything away from Scars...its a great song! I was merely implying that the first moments of the drums setting the tone in that "dance like beat" required caution (cuz I can't dance :) Tom are you a resident here in Phoenix?

In my personal opinion,the drummer from def leppard is way better than neil peart even with only one arm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, Far Cry is awesome, and I saw on Google Search that the video of Far Cry is on You Tube, I will check it out now.

He he he, it is a "nice try" video, so here is the web site if you want to watch it. It is taken from R30 DVD.

i like dog years

Moving pictures for me was the era I was introduced to Rush. A solid album with no disposable tunes. Somewhere along the Presto era the M.O. became a powerful punchy first song, followed by a bunch of filler trying to fill up a CD. I mean there were high spots here and there, but no album full of "Rush songs"...Sometimes the tunes age a little and grow on me, but somehow Far Cry is boring me. I miss the single vocal lines, single guitar parts, and adventurous drumming of the past. Just layer upon layer of Geddy singing along with himself (not to mention the silly "oohs and aws") and an army of guitars on a power trio album loses something. And it gets worse live when the three live musicians end up sounding like an accompaniment to a backing track of sound effects and prerecorded background vocals. Sorry that sounds harsh, to each his own, I just hope the remainder of this album has some good stuff on it.

Tom Johnson: How selfish of Neil to take some 'time off' to recover from the death of his daughter and wife. How dare he hold Geddy and Alex, two of his best friends, back. How dare he take drum lessons to get a fresh look on drumming and percussion. How dare he take time off to write books and make videos - is Neil not aware that he must only contribute to Rush, and Rush only?
/sarcasm off

Alex: Rush has no contractual obligations to Atlantic (who is nothing more than a distributor). Rush can release whatever they want, whenever they want. That is artistic freedom.


If there is one thing that has bothered me in the Rush freak world, is the amount of analysis done on each album, each song, each chorus and each lyric. Just enjoy the bloody tunes!

As to the best and worst albums, well, who really cares? We all have our favorite and not-so-favorite albums and songs. Why can't we just enjoy what Geddy, Alex and Neil put out? Don't like their new stuff. That's fine - then just enjoy the previous stuff.

"Hi, I'm Chief Lyrist For Rush (CLR). I used to write insightful and provocative lyrics in the day. Now, I'm Captain OBVIOUS! The world is not a good place, and it makes me ANGRY. Now, like a mechanical robot I will put paper to pen and construct a song. Hey boys....lets write yet another song with no apparent bridge or chorus!"

These guys are killing me. 28 years as a die hard fan, plenty of concents. Change is good. Where is the passion?

Vincent, please re-read my comments. Nowhere did I say that Neil was selfish to take time off. I simply stated that he was the making the call on whether Rush continued or not. As I said - as you'd notice if you actually read my comments, we're lucky to even have Rush around. You're putting words in my mouth and you know it.

Patrick, I am a Phoenix resident - I too saw them at the Coliseum, but I have far less kind words for that place. "A giant concrete armpit." "Echochamber." Truly one of the worst places I've seen concerts. Cricket Pavilion may be hot, but at least they have those fans, those tiny fans 100 feet above the floor (I'd love to know hear the concept behind how that's supposed to work.) Hey, at least it's not Compton. I was really hoping we'd get to see them indoors this time at the new (to me) Jobing.com arena, but no, it's Cricket, again, July 27 (semi-official - but no official dates have been released, so don't flip out everyone. You'll all get your dates here soon.)

Wow. What are you people, like 12 years old? Jesus Christ. It's art. Rush is the artist. They create what they want to create. If you like it, you listen and say "I really like that", if you don't like it, then you're kind of an idiot to listen to it so often that you can criticise every note and every line.

I am not looking for Rush to please me. I respect them immensely as artists and musicians and I eagerly look forward, hopefully with an open mind, to what they have created next. In the past, spanning all of their various "stages", there have been songs that have become my absolute favorites and a very few songs I have simple not been able to get into. Then, of course, there are many, many songs that didn't quite reach me at first, but after a while the song opens up to me and I "get it".

Fortunately, I'm cetain that this group of idiots (my apologies to few of you who have not demonstrated yourselves to be idiots) will have absolutely no bearing on the art Rush pursues in the future

After reading all of these blurbs, I just had to put in my two cents. I have noticed that many Rush fans seem to be caught up in wondering why they aren't writing material that sounded like something from their earlier albums. Although there are people in the minority who hold Rush dear because of albums like PW, HYF, or RTB, the majority feel that the "majic" of Rush was in those great albums from 1975-1982 (FBN - Signals)

It's true, they don't write that way anymore. Part of it may be due to their writing method. Alex and Geddy write with a drum machine, seperate from Neil. It may explain why Neil sounds like he's taking a back seat. They're not jamming out arrangements together like they used to. Neil has to fit drum parts on songs that already have exisiting drum beats and pulses over music that he did not create. Remember, YYZ was written by Geddy and Neil, NOT Alex.

Therefore the songs seem to have a constant, if not uni-dirctional driving pulse for five minutes. They don't write songs that "breathe", with transitions that have open speaces and changing dynamics. Listen to songs like The Trees, Xanadu, Jacobs Ladder, The Camera Eye, Natural Science, Hemispheres(entire Album)...I could name more. They all have spaces that allow the song to breathe. Now it seems they're writing songs that just drive. Far Cry is a great example. Though there are changed in the time signature, they seem to sound crammed in. You have to get used to them, and it takes longer with the way they write now.

Lately the songs seem to sound a little hurried along, and the transitions are sudden. They have mentioned that it's more challenging to write a great song in five minutes, that they've done the epic numbers before and aren't reall into that anymore.

My point here is that I agree that the band has changed, but it's not because they're old and tired, or because they haven't "got it" anymore. They've writing method has changed, and so has their producers. You want to hear the old Rush, bring back Terry Brown, simple as that. I am a pro musician and have been for over 25 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass guys.

Also, Rush have always been influenced by the current music of the time. Look at the bands that are around now. Does any of it even compare to what was around in the 70's?? Anyways, think about the inlfuencing forces that surround them, and you may be enlightened. (remember Stick it Out? They tuned down to "D" for that song, around the time when Pearl Jam and Nirvana started that trend)

Personaly I really miss the single guitar lines, single vocals and drum PARTS, not grooves. The band seems to concentrate more on grooveing now, maybe influenced by RHCP?? I heard some of that on VT.

And as far as the new song? I like it, but it does seem to be missing that "Rush majic" (and a guitar solo). Even their early driving rock songs like Anthem had elements of that Rush majic. I do not like how the drums are so burried in the mix. What the heck is going on with THAT? For those who slag any of the albums thus far? EVERY album has had a song or two with that Rush majic in it. Too bad it's not like the old days when every song had that majic. RTB it was Ghost of a Chance, Dreamline, to name a few. Presto, it was The Pass, Show Don't Tell, and Available Light. Test For Echo and Counterparts had a few. Oh by the way, in my opinion, Dog Years isn't as bad as The Speed of Love. VT had a few great majic Rush moments. Earthshine is a great song, probably their best since Power Windows (in my humble opinion) so is Vt.

And that remark about Geddy sounding like he had a banana shoved up his ass? Come on, you are a Rush fan a you are critisizing Geddy's vocals? Why start now? If you say that now, why didn't you say that in reference to his singing on the early albums?

See you all at the concerts! Let's wait to hear what the rest of the new album sounds like. Yes, I said album, since that's what most artists call them.

Guys:
It's really sad to read the comments of so many "so-called" rush-fans in here that are completely oblivious of the history of this band.
Why is so difficult to understand that they simply grew out of that retro-seventies kinda hippie progressive phase crap? I mean, don't get me wrong: I love that progressive era, but that, the real thing is over. The amazing music that the likes of Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Kansas, ELP, PMF, etc, produced belong to an era that is long gone along with the 8 tracks and long plays. Rush was one of the main bands of that movement, when that movement was alive! and if you listen to the music of Rush back them, you realize that they kick each one of those band's asses, and I'm talking of the best bands that have ever existed in rock music! Now, if you ask a band that has managed to be alive for 33 years just to stick with what they already done and mastered just to keep you entertained then you really are just a bunch of assholes; I mean, really, those little dicks out there complaining about Geddy's range or Neil being hold back...what have you done in life, besides bitching? Where are your achievements? Have you been hail as one of the greates bassist of all time, or one of the greatest drummers that have ever played, or produced some of the best rock music in history, or sold millions of records? Don't think so. Get some grip and try to see that those modern bands out there making prog rock, they are only serving a dish to be sold and to be bought for lame pretentious false rush-fans who can't get the idea that Rush is making the music they want to make, and if you think that "far cry" is boring, then you should listen to the kind of crap that bands that have managed to be a couple of years together put out there. Or maybe you should just watch your MTV and shut the f... up. None of your little comments will prevent those canadian giants from keep rocking, and if you doubt that they still can play, just watch Rush in Rio or R30, and you will see something amazing.
P.D.
Yeah, Test for Echo wasn't all that good...if you are expecting to listen to Dream Theater...If you are expecting to listen to D.T you should buy a D.T cd, shouldn't you?
Test for Echo, was too experimental, experiments sometimes may go wrong, but to say that you would skip "carve away the stone", I mean, c'mon, you are a loser. Hands down.
Compare Vapor Trails, with a Tull Christmas or any of the releases of Porcupine Tree or Flower Kings, or whatever prog-head act that you may think of, and you will see that, at fifty, each, Rush still kick some asses around, whether you like it or not. Ok, "rush-fans", Huh?

Doug I agree with you, there's too much complaining comming from Rush fans. I was trying to explain logically that the band's influences have changed, and so has the way they write, as well as their song-writing aspirations. Far Cry still kicks ass, it's just not what many Rush fans are looking for. Many of them probably heard that "Hemispheres" chord on the website (before the song was released) and thought "great we're going in the right direction". But the point is, whatever they decide to write IS the right direction. And we, as fans, have to try to at least understand what they're trying to say, and give it a chance. There will obviously be a few gems on Snakes and Arrows. I think Far Cry is a better single than One Little Victory, although I am still bummed that the drums are so burried in the mix. 12 more brand new tracks to listen to!

As for test For Echo, there are a few good songs on that album. It's just not their best, obviously. But why concentrate on the negative? I STILL crank Earthshine, Ghost of a Chance, Available Light, Scars, Animate, Cold Fire, Open Secrets, High Water (took me fifteen years to end up really getting into that song) and Territories. Man, they STILL write music that lasts. It's called hang time. Some bands write songs that are good for a month, and that's it. No hang time. Great bands write songs that stand the test of time. Rush are able to write songs that have that. I'll NEVER press skip or "next station" if something from Test for Echo or Caress of Steel comes on.

Still, everyone should be able to use this forum to express their views on the band. Everyone is entitled to their opinion Doug. We may not all agree, but since we're all Rush fans, I guess we all do agree to a certain point.

Doug I agree with you, there's too much complaining comming from Rush fans. I was trying to explain logically that the band's influences have changed, and so has the way they write, as well as their song-writing aspirations. Far Cry still kicks ass, it's just not what many Rush fans are looking for. Many of them probably heard that "Hemispheres" chord on the website (before the song was released) and thought "great we're going in the right direction". But the point is, whatever they decide to write IS the right direction. And we, as fans, have to try to at least understand what they're trying to say, and give it a chance. There will obviously be a few gems on Snakes and Arrows. I think Far Cry is a better single than One Little Victory, although I am still bummed that the drums are so burried in the mix. 12 more brand new tracks to listen to!

As for test For Echo, there are a few good songs on that album. It's just not their best, obviously. But why concentrate on the negative? I STILL crank Earthshine, Ghost of a Chance, Available Light, Scars, Animate, Cold Fire, Open Secrets, High Water (took me fifteen years to end up really getting into that song) and Territories. Man, they STILL write music that lasts. It's called hang time. Some bands write songs that are good for a month, and that's it. No hang time. Great bands write songs that stand the test of time. Rush are able to write songs that have that. I'll NEVER press skip or "next station" if something from Test for Echo or Caress of Steel comes on.

Still, everyone should be able to use this forum to express their views on the band. Everyone is entitled to their opinion Doug. We may not all agree, but since we're all Rush fans, I guess we all do agree to a certain point.

My first Rush album was vinyl -- AFTK. I fell in love with this band and have always appreciated their uniqueness. Selling out? They don't need to. Their fan base is large enough that it allows them the luxury of creating whatever music THEY want to, and if it's quality stuff, the fans will buy it ("if you build it, they will come").

One of the reasons I enjoy Rush is their progressive nature. Each album is distinct. Personally, I love old Rush the most --- everything up to and including Signals will always be "closer to the heart" for me. Yet, I do appreciate their efforts following Signals. I've found much to love in GUP, PW, HYF, Presto, RTB, Counterparts, TFE, and then, seemingly returning to their older sound, Vapor Trails.

"Far Cry" is, in my opinion, a delightful, refreshing song that blends the old with the new in a way that meshes the nostalgia of my past with the hope and excitement of the future. I'm looking forward to this new album and will gladly add it to my collection. Maybe it will be the last? Who knows. But as a long-time fan, I'm just happy and thankful to have MORE Rush.

Some have talked about Geddy Lee's vocals changing over time --- that's what happens with age. Even on the TFE tour, did no one else notice that "2112" was performed in a lower key to accommodate Geddy's lowering vocals? I like his vocals from the past, but I also like how time has mellowed his voice a bit and ... hey... he still sounds like Geddy.

Has anyone noticed that "Far Cry" begins in the same key as "Spirit of Radio"? Intentional? Probably not. But hearing those same chords in a song almost 30 years later is pretty damn cool. One of my only complaints about Vapor Trails is the production quality --- seems less "clean" than previous efforts and, to me, sounds a little defective (like a dirty tape). "Far Cry", on the other hand, is so clean that it's exciting to hear the detail in the music. I have high hopes that Snakes & Arrows will offer the same excellent sound.

Finally, I just want to say that it's been difficult as a die-hard fan to have to wait soooooo long between albums the last 15 years. I suppose it's just part of life --- the band ages, their lives become more complex with family needs, and it won't be long before Neil's prophetic lyrics become reality: "For you the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee."

Rush is back -- ahhhh. Throughout their career, when they've put new work out, my first listen has sometimes been a little lukewarm. But by the third time I hear it, I'm in love with it. The streak continues: Far Cry is fabulous. N., G. and A.: see you in Philly!

Thanks Burak, you are a fine gentleman. I've got two confesions to make: since the late 80's ( my time of affiliation with the mighty Rush ) I've probably listened to Tai Shan and High Water like two or three times. I mean, those are the songs that I chose to believe they were written by Eurithmics, and simply ignore their existence. But, that being said, I really think that those are a freak accident, and as Burak put it, even them do have a little bit of "hang time", I mean, after all it's Rush! For me, they were specially odd, because Hold your Fire has this completely amazing, clean yet powerful sound, and has, for my taste, together with Power Windows, the most refined sound this band was capable of at their prime. They were their highest point technically wise, they are so clean and crisp that you can actually listen each chord of the instruments, I mean, note for note. It would seem that they realized that after that pinnacle being reached they somehow would have to go down, just in terms of their sound, obviously. Hence Presto and Roll the Bones steer a little bit away from that "perfect" sound, and finally the transition is completely made in Counterparts which is a hell of an album, that happens to be overshadowed by the glorious past production of the band.
My other confession is that the first time I listened to 2112 I didn't quite like it! I mean, it was too long and weird compared with the things I used to listened to back then(1988, I'm 35 yo)that one was a little bit of a shock; and I was listening to it 12 years after its release! ( it was my second Rush album, the first: MP of course!) It took me three or four listenings, and then I was completely hooked. After that, every single song that I listened to was just pure magic.

Friends, Rush has changed. It is true. Why deny it? But most of all, why bash them? why mistreat them? why disrespect them? Those guys still are making absolutely wonderful music, and they are not completely apreciated now for that, because what they did in the past is simply too huge to be ignored...personally, I'm just glad that they're still around.
Some people out there got to wise up and think of the little fact that Neil spend years! without even holding a drumstick in his hands, that Rush was dead... and then resurrected...with an energy and strenght that bands like Nirvana and Soundgarden (talking about the "post-alternative" sound they got now) would have loved to possess and a dexterity and virtuosity none of them could.
For me is not only the musical aspect: Those lyrics that so many people, so many "rush-fans" criticize, have been so important in so many levels in my life, and got me through so many rough points just by the sheer message of truthfulness, optimism, self respect, humanity, friendship and sincerity that I can only feel grateful that they still running, I really don't care if it is on fumes.

Who says Rush is running on fumes? A few arm-chair critics, who spew out negative remarks about how the band has lost it. Has anyone noticed that the band has a more full sound live now, more than they ever did? If you go back to the Hold Your Fire, Presto or Roll The Bones years, they never sounded as full live as they do these past few tours. This is because the band is playing better than they used to, utilizing playing techniques, chord structures, and their own isntruments to their maximum potential.

The band has changed, they're playing a heavier style. Expect this album to be even heavier. Many fans complained the band was going to "light and whimpy" in the 80's. Now they're too heavy? Come on people. I KNOW I'll be seeing you all at the concert.

The band has not lost it, they are just trying to prove something different to themselves. They've climbed those prog-rock mountains, and the've moved on. Seems many Rush fans (sometimes I'm guilty too!) haven't moved on. Now they're trying something else. There WILL be a few gems on this album, but don't expect it to be the Rush of old. They don't write like that anymore.

Now I'm off to go and listen to side one of Hemispheres!

O.k. I'M going to end this bull crap I have created. If you look all the way at the top under "tony" where I started some criticism against both him and Rush you will notice I started this whole "Rush Bashing" string of commentary.

Look, It seems RUSH is too good for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. I am a fucken die-hard fan AND ALWAYS WILL BE NO MATTER WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will buy every album, I have every album and enjoy every album to some degree. I have ssen RUSH every tour since Counterparts and intend on continuing that trend.

Everyone keeps saying "how could you bash a band you love"

SIMPLE.... You will never, no matter how much you like RUSH will like everything about every aspect, including production, style, talent etc..
they have to offer.

HENCE SOME OF THE "NEGATIVE" criticism.

Because I choose to use some vulgarity and put the muscicians of RUSH into there place with commentary DOES NOT MEAN I'M NEGATIVE.

Everyone these days likes to say oh, ... he's so negative!!

NO its called speaking the truth and being a realist about things.

If you continue to assume that RUSH does no wrong, then ultimatley they will. You have a small stake in there music, after all You spent hard earned dollars over the years seeing them and buying there CDs. Don't you have the right to criticize???????????????

Look I know I have will never achieve there level of musicianship and they are all brilliant musicians NO ONE WILL EVER TAKE THAT AWAY including my "negative comments". However, MAYBE the band will read some of this and ultimatley produce better sound or get back to better writing like on HYF PRESTO RTB PW. (THEY STILL HAVE IT IN THEM TO DO SO) I don't really care there not in there prime. All of them can still physically PLAY. Geddy SOUNDS better at a lower range (WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AS YOU GET OLDER) so Geddy would not have a problem and does not singing because of his age. ITS WHEN HE TRIES TO SING TOO HIGH he has a problem. Meaning, don't do it. I would be fine if he did not. Look at the vocals on Hold your fire .....

IS HE SINGING IN A HIGH OCTIVE.... NOOOOOOOO

and thats great.

Guys, if you start to SETTLE then so don't the musicians you support.

Pretty soon we will all be American Idol fans

Tony

FUCK moving on..... Regaring progessive ROCK. RUSH WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK CATEGORY. JUST THE WAY IT IS.

SO, you would THINK. THAT MAYBE. THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING FOR THE FANS. WHO SUPPORT AND LIKE PROGRESSIVE ROCK.

Dream Theater is in the Progressive Metal/Rock Category. If you are a FAN of DT would you be happy if they discredited it altogether??? The very thing they were founded on???

Oh I know, there getting old too.

Maybe they should try writing country music instead.

FUCK your pansy attitude.

DEMAND MORE FROM THE BANDS YOU SUPPORT !!

FUCKS !!!!!

Stick it out... Don't swallow your anger...

spit it out.. don't swallow the lies.

RUNNING BACK TO COVER YOUR NECK!!


Spit out your anger, don't swallow your pride.

I'm going to open up a can of worms here, and jump into the fire. Tony you mentioned several times that you are a die hard fan, and only being constructive with your critisizm. You also said: "Because I choose to use some vulgarity and put the musicians of RUSH into there place with commentary DOES NOT MEAN I'M NEGATIVE. Everyone these days likes to say oh, ... he's so negative!! NO its called speaking the truth and being a realist about things."

Well, the only truth you refer to has been YOUR truth, and YOUR opinion dude. And, to be fair, you are of course entitled to your opinion. but so is everyone else. Thus there are dis-agreements. BUT, when you refer to Rush getting back to "better writing", it almost sounds like you feel your truth is THE truth. It's your opinion. In my opinion, I prefer the writing on VT over HYF or Presto. In MY opinion, I prefer Geddy's voice in the higher range. But I am not tacking on any negative connotations to that. It's just my preference, from the old Rush to the new Rush, if there is such a thing. Many of your opinions do not sound like constructive critisizm. It just sounds like you voicing your opinion, in a negative way. You mentioned the new single sounds un-impressive. Why is it un-impressive? You said "The single first track should knock you on your ass. This one left me scratching my head." O.K it left YOU scratching your head. Where's the constructive critisizm there dude? It's just your opinion. And I respect that. I'd respect it more if you simply said "I'm not impressed." Because, frankly, the new single has knocked alot of people on their ass. Just because it didn't have that affect on you, it may not be the opinion of the general public. You mentioned that Rush have taken a back seat, they've gotten lazy. Man, that IS negative. There's no constructive critisizm there whatsoever. It's a straightforward negative comment, period. How do you know they've gotten lazy? You should re-read what you write, and pick out all of the "constructive critisizm". Why does "Peaceable Kingdom" suck? Where's the constructive critisizm?? Saying it sucks is constructive? As a fan, if you dis-approve, don't buy it.

You said one thing that I think links MANY Rush fans within a common empathy. You said: " Its difficult for a fan to really enjoy a period of music from one of your favorite bands and then watch them turn in a different direction". I TOTALLY agree. I am not thrilled that they don't write the way they used to, and are writing this kind of music. But, I am still excited to hear some Rush-isms in their music.
That's all, peace out.

Burak,

I actually respect some of your opinions and don't wish to make my opinion EVERYONE's. I was the one who was being attacked here by everyone above. I simply have responded.

O.k. now I'm going to pick apart your comments:

"You mentioned that Rush have taken a back seat, they've gotten lazy. Man, that IS negative. There's no constructive critisizm there whatsoever. It's a straightforward negative comment, period."

I can sit here and express all the reasons WHY. But from alot of the comments from the people above, ITS self-explainatory. I have already given my reasons if you read.

I will list them for you again:

Neil has suppressed his action packed busy style of playing. AND DON'T SAY HE's TOO OLD AS A REASON. I'm not looking for someone to change MY opinion.

ALL band members have decieded COMPLETELY against progressive ROCK. WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON. THAT's not kind of a sell-out?? C'mon DOG YEARS ?? WHAT THE F@#$ is that?

NO SOLOING by ALEX???? Why the heck has he decieded to do that??? You can still have heavy riffs and blend it with even a short solo, in maybe just ONE song on ONE of the last 3 albums.

Geddy, gets rid of Keyboards? O.k. I can understand Keyboards don't always FIT with certain directions the band deciedes to take. The fact is Dream Theater is heavy as hell and still manage to keep Jordan Rudess employeed. And oh, let's see they are all getting old almost in their 50's as well as a matter of fact. Mike Portnoy plays his ass off and so don't all the other members STILL.. And they haven't forgotten they were founded on PROGRESSIVE ROCK/METAL.

Look we can go back and forth all day long. Let's just agree to disagree. I am not trying to monopolize my opinion and make it everyone else's, however I will DEFEND myself when attacked.

PEACEABLE KINGDOM sucks IN MY OPINION for all the reasons I just mentioned as well as the fact the song in my opinion just does not appeal to me. It doesn't really seem to have been well thought out in arrangement etc. O.K.

Again, GOD FORBID anyone doesn't like something about RUSH. GOD FORBID I don't list every explaination as to why I don't like something. IF I don't apparently I am just being negative. If you read my comments you will see why.

AND BURAK you seem to like to speak as though you are the voice of all RUSH fans. THERE are many people who are die-hard fans SUCH AS MYSELF who actually feel the same way as me. That does not make my opinion any more valid, or negative it just means there are others who also agree.


AGAIN, there is always one asshole that has got to keep this going. JUST LEAVE THIS THING ALONE.

Test for Echo is actually one of my favorite Rush albums. Try creating that kind of music yourself.

Steve, that's kind of a ridiculous criteria for an album being good, isn't it? How many of us can create ANY music? Remember what you said here because you're never allowed to dislike music again unless you can make that music yourself, too.

Caress of Steel Rocks!!

Hey Tony...there is absolutley nothing wrong with a healthy debate. You bring up valid points. This is not a battle, we're merely venting, sharing opinions, chewing the fat. I sure don't mean to come across like the voice of all Rush fans. I was making an observation, that it seemed to me that most fans want the old stuff back.

About your comments, I can't argue or dis-agree on a few points, and NO I don't think you were being negative, and NO I don't feel it takes just one asshole to keep this going. I'm enjoying this exchange because it makes me think in different directions.

O.K let's call a spade a spade. Dog Years. How can anyone argue? How does Geddy feel when he's handed lyrics like that, and how does Neil feel when the music is what it is? The Speed Of Love? Come on. Take the worst song off the Kings album (Madrigal) and at least it's doable. In any case, yeah what happened to the guitar solos? Do you honestly think it's laziness? And the prog-rock concept, is it due to laziness or are they in another minid set? Is the band thinking they're straight ahead alternative rockers now? And the thing about keyboards. I think keys would have made Earthshine that much better of a song. It's the only one with a semblence of a guitar solo in it. Geddy has been using vocal textures to layer (compensate??) for a lack of keyboards. It's all Alex's influence. Geddy wants keys in there, he has said it himself many times. Alex thinks they're whimpy. I am sure there will be some keys and guitar solos on the rest of the album. Then we can meet up here and hear everyone's opinions...I don't want to agree to dis-agree. I LIKE hearing differening opinions. I just don't it when people (that could be anyone) slag the band because of what they do or don't do.

You sound like my best mate, a buddy of mine who's e-mail I accidentally erased. I would have loved to paste it onto this blog. He's a very angry Rush fan. He refers to them as a band trying to emulate the assembly rock garbage music that is being pumped out these days, with chugging chords and un-challenging arrangements. As for Neil, go figure. I guess he's trying to "lay it down" alot more now. I still feel it's due to the way they write (seperately, Alex and Geddy with a drum machine)
I gotta get a life beyond Rush. I do like Porcupine Tree alot. They're my next favourites for sure. At least the drums are way up in the mix. Doesn't compare to the 74-85 Rush though.

If anyone is interested...

Just found out about the new RUSH! m/

A few things.
1RUSH was the first live concert I ever attended. 2nd leg of the MOVING PICTURES tour, Little Rock, AR, 1982. I was 17.

2Since then I've seen RUSH a total of 13 times live in concert.

3I personally feel that Counterparts/T4E are their "low point". Yet there are good songs on both those albums.

4When I first heard "One Little Victory", I was flat out blown away. Reminded me of the intensity of KORN (another fave of mine). It may come as a surprise to some, but KORN is the only other band I've seen live as many times as RUSH: 13 times for the boyz from Bakersfield, as well.

5Vapor Trails, imo, is the true "return to form" for our Canadian heroes. It is amazing. All 3 of them play their instruments with focus and inspiration. That live show was unforgettable, hardly anyone sat back down for the 3+ hours these guys rocked our universe.

In conclusion: I'm bummed I missed out on the official MP3 of "Far Cry". I had to settle for the snippet. That was barely a taste, but what I heard sounded alright. Not quite as dynamic as One Little Victory, but I'm not letting that get me down. I have high hopes for this new album.

Long live RUSH, the greatest rock'n'roll band that ever lived. m/

I really dig the single. Very well done. Catchy, nice vibe.

I am disappointed to see how many people are down on T4E and VT... neither were five-star efforts, but there were some great moments on both of them. Though "noisy," VT had Ceiling Unlimited, Nocturne, Ghost Rider and Peaceable Kingdom, all which were well-executed and intense; T4E was a little less consistent but had Half the World, Virtuality, Driven and Totem (ok, not spectacular, some might think hokey, but I can appreciate the sentiment).

I think people getting down on Neil's lyric writing is fine -- everyone is a critic these days, literally! -- but you can't not respect the guy for his life experience, particularly recently. And as noisy as VT was, I do value the sentiments he had on that record. And I don't wonder sometimes if VT was purposefully "noisy," not merely for the stylistic times it was released in, but for the noise the man must have had in his head after such tragedy. Hazard befell him, indeed.

We're all lucky he didn't just hang it up. A lesser man would have. I would have.

A great year for a prog fan... new Rush, new Porcupine Tree, new Marillion... tours from all three... plus a Genesis reunion... in all, a good summer for those of us discerning proggers.

Burak,

Sorry for the way I have been acting (vulgarity and all) And I appologize to everyone I have offended. Burak said it best when he said, "I'm enjoying this exchange because it makes me think in different directions." And some of what everyone here has said is valid and really can be argued either way. I really don't want to come across as an ANGRY Rush fan. After-all I think anyone who listens to Rush has a softer side to them anyway.

Its always tough to branch out and listen to other bands when you really find one that seems to fire on all cylinders, lyrically, musically, personality-wise, song wise etc.

Burak you may want to try a Dream Theater (they are heavier) but they share alot of commonalities as RUSH. I like a handfull of Porcupine Tree material. Alot of it (AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO SEEM NEGATIVE) does not seem to go anywhere. I always find myself waiting for that part of the song that I enjoy.

I guess all of us care so much about this band that we have strong convictions of what we "expect" from Rush from album to album.

I hate to say it but I think Alex may have a problem. It seems like Geddy; and I have noticed in certain interviews, would like to bring the keys back. Alex has always been insecure about the way he plays guitar. He mentioned about 7-10 years ago of possibly dropping out because he felt he could no longer contribute. I think the style he has played since counterparts DEFINITLEY has been one of the root causes for the direction of the band. I would love for him to change his style of playing back to the clean crisp intricate soloing peices that exemplify him so well. He also seems the least rational out of the band as Geddy mentions in a round about way the Rush in Rio DVD. He says " Alex can be ratonal one minute and completley emotional and irrational the next." Maybe that is part of what got him in trouble in Florida ?? Who knows. I wasn't there.

I hope I have to eat my words with this new album, but it just seems based on Far Cry, the song titles and the interviews I have read that I won't. Neil once mentioned that the pattern they follow is usually 3 to 4 albums with the same writting style and then it changes again. I hope this is the end of this style and something MORE lIKE the elegant stuff of RTBones and PResto reappears.

Bravado, The Pass, Available Light, Presto, Ghost of a Chance, Dreamline, and I can go on because LOVE everyone of the songs on these two CDS. Ironically the band has mentioned they do as well. The band ranks RTB as one of if not the BEST they have ever done.

"And if the music stops, there's only the sound of the rain...

All the hope and glory, all the sacrifice in vain."


I ABSOLUTLEY LOVE that bit of lyric. It definitley touches me deeply for reasons I can't fully explain. In Nature you can find music in the sense that rythmic sound is produced in a natural way when rain falls. Such a beautiful metaphor.

As with so many bits on EVERY RUSH CD.

GUYS lets hope for the best.

And don't get me wrong, I understand and "GET" the new stuff in the sense that the best way I can describe it is it's ROCKIN !! It makes your head bob. But PLEASE just one more elegant album like PRESTO AND RTBs

I know I am a rabid RUSH fan and probably will never be satisfied.

Later guys..

And keep the commentary coming.

Tony

Regarding a great year for PROG fans Dream Theater will also have one out this year in JUNE. DREAM THEATER is amazing. IT IS VERY TOUGH FOR ME TO CRITICISE THEIR WORK.

Guys....I am NOT trying to start a rumour, it's just that I work with someone who knows Sheila, and she made a remark to him that struck me. She said "make sure you see this tour, it may be their last." Who knows, from what Neil is always saying, and their age, well, my point here is, let's hope they stick around to MAKE another album after this one, which probably won't be until 2009 at the very earliest.

Sad to hear that Alex is insecure about his guitar playing, since he comes up with the most unique stuff I've heard in rock, ever. His solos are obviously way outside. He plays such great solos, I sure hoipe there will be a few on this album...

Burak,

Who is Sheila ??
I am over critical with Alex and Geddy and Neil...
Its just the way I am.
I love Alex, Gedddy and Neil tremendously.

GUYS. I just went out and purchased the RUSH GOLD 2 disk remastered 29 songs. OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD. AND YOU KNOW HOW CRITICAL I CAN BE.....

EVEN IF... listen to me... EVEN IF you own all these songs, as I do... GO OUT AND BUY THE RUSH GOLD compilation.

To give a comparison in the difference in sound quality its literally like listening to a tape and then a CD. NO SHIT.

Guys, I MEAN you NEED to GET THIS !! if you have not already.

I was skeptical, thinking it was just the record label trying to make another buck, but its clearly not. You will hear the differentiation of all the instruments clearly at a great sound level. I can't put this into words... just go out and get it.

O.k. now back to the serious stuff. WHO is sheila, in what relation to the band is she, and how good is her word regarding something like this.

Well if this is there last tour, it would not be a huge surprose. We all know how much Neil dislikes touring. He only enjoys the preparation part of touring and the first few shows. After that he says it sucks.

Keep us posted.

Thanks
Tony.

The Gold comp is no different in sound quality than the remasters that came out in the mid-90s.

After reading a lot of these comments, it seems like there is a pattern developing. I suppose there are 2 Rush "ethnicities" out there. Those who come from the land of stripped down heavy stuff sans keyboards and those who prefer the highly layered stuff. I've been a die hard Rush fan for 18 years and I like it all, although I prefer the hard and heavy Rush so there's my bias.

I like the new song. Whoever said the opening reminded them of the Hemispheres era (more like '77 to '81 era in general) was right on the money. The chours has a great hook and some of the odd changes are good. I think the guitar wah thing during the verse is a little lame, but I'm OK w/ that in the context of the rest of the song. It is definantely is a more poppy, radio friendly effort than those in recent years.

I loved Vapor Trails, although like many here, I hope the new CD offers something different than the last few. I'm even OK with them using familiar sounds/patterns from that '77-'81 era as it's kinda fun hearing 50+ year olds playing a style that they developed and that many have copied since. What's even more enjoyable is hearing how they rock it out better than most of those half there age (I'm 29, Rush fan since 11, so I fall into that category).

Just a few opinions from me regarding other comments. Alex is a highly underrated guitar player. I think he is the "rock and roll" in Rush. The great part of VT is that his guitar parts sound fresh, inventive w/o drowning them in layers of effects and processing. I feel Neil's playing has come full circle. Neil started off progged up, jamming those 7/8s and 5/4 with his signature fills (albeit very Bruford, Collins-ish at first), and then moved electro-african to a bit jazzy. It seems like over the last few albums he has successfully phased all of his phases into a definate Neil Peart style that more consistent but less flashy. Geddy, well he's Geddy. Amazing bass player and very song and structure oriented. If you think about it, they all work very well together in that they don't allow each other to go too far with their predilections.

If people want to complain about Rush, we should be complaining about their live shows. I know it's probably tough to pull off something different all the time, although if you see 1 show from a tour, you've seen them all. It'd be nice if they left some room to rotate in a few different songs every couple of nights. Most people going to a Rush show these days have been there before and don't need to be turned on by "the hits." Roll The Bones could be dropped for another song on that album or how about Marathon again? Circumstances would be amazing. Digital Man? The Camera Eye? The Fountain of Lamneth? I think people whould go ape if they played some of those obscure tracks.

Finally, we are all Rush fans. Rush fans all have this special strange bond. It's like when you meet someone at a party/work/etc and you're having this nice pat conversation until you find out that they are a Rush fan and by the end of the night you are doing impressions of Geddy Lee saying "Thank you very much!"

Hey Tony

Read any of Neil's books, you will find reference to Sheila. She is their accountant, but more than that. WHenever gthe band needs anything, they contact Sheila. TRUE STORY: Neil lost his Order of Canada pin, and in a panic, called who else but Sheila, asking how he can get a new one. Of course she obliged willingly and begand to make all the calls to search for how to get a new one. Eventually, she found out that one could be obtained from Birks Jewlers (don't know if you have those in the States) so she broke the news to Neil, after finding out how much it would cost to replace the pin. She told him that she cold get one from Birks. When she asked how much, Birks told her "1875" She said "one thousand eight hundred seventy five?" They said "no, $18.75". She had to then break the news to Neil that his pin would cost under $20 to replace. Man.

This is a true story, albeit pretty trivial. She is the one who takes care of all the band's finances, helped Neil sell his house in Toronto, she is like a pillar of reliability for the band in many ways, and from what I've been told, she, along with many people in the Rush circle, is a solid himan being, salt of the earth type of person who is just rare to find these days.

ciao

Tom Johnson,

I realize that the GOLD comp is no different, however there are songs on the GOLD comp that were not included in the REMASTERS series ( which I have) that are older. Those old songs you will notice have REALLY BEEN polished up. Even the newer stuff seems to be more brilliant. All remastered songs were done at the same studio in Maine. Again, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I debated whether or not to spend money on songs I already had and now don't regret it one bit.

I don't know what you're talking about, Tony. All of Rush's albums besides Vapor Trails and the Feedback EP have been remastered. If you own those, you have the same remasterings as were used for the Gold compilation, therefore, no reason to buy the set unless you just want to own it. Caress Of Steel's artwork has been returned to the original color - that's almost worth buying just for that alone!

I just had Presto T4E RTB and Counterparts and not the rest of them. The rest of them were bought in the late 80's/90s. What I like is I have the RUSH REMASTERS that just does not have the gold sticker slapped on the front, but says it in the Jewel case. I did not realize EVERY cd except VP was Remastered. The GOLD comp allows you for the most part to not have to repurchase all the old material, which alot of it from Caress of steel and Fly by night stinks.

Wow, there are some really 'insightful' critics here. Let me add some of mine, please. I have been listening to Rush since the first album. While there are some I like better than others (2112 is still a favorite), I don't believe that I would consider any a so called low point. Part of life is growing older, and with that comes change. For those who wish to go back to a certain era of Rush songs or styles, feel free to do so. There are albums from any era since 1974. I personally, don't want to go back to those eras with a new album. Please look up the word 'new' in a dictionary if you are confused by it. Do you do things the same way you did 20 - 30 years ago? I'm just thankful that one of my favorite bands is still putting out music. Also for those who wish for the past - try going without the internet, your microwave oven, your cell phone, your cordless phone at home, radial tires on your car, CD's, DVD's, surround sound, your Ipod, etc. Things change. People change. Been to your high school reunion lately? Might as well get used to it...

Sean

I see. You make sense. A band ages and their music changes, times change, people change, blah blah blah. So what's your point? I don't have anything against Rush changing, but hey, I'd have no problem hearing them make a few more albums like Moving Pictures, or Signals, or Permanent Waves. Sure we all have to expect change. But how does it apply to a band like AC/DC? They're COUNTED on to do the same stuff since their inception, and you know what? THAT is what makes them so popular. You never hear AC/DC fans say "man this album is bullshit, why are they doing this??" Some bands do not have frustrated fans like Rush has frustrated fans. Frustrated Rush fans are because, well, just read all the comments that have been written. And by the way, there are other examples other than AC/DC who have not changed their style or sound and are alive and kicking because of their consitency. Not everything has to change, and not everything that is good has to change. O.k so Rush is all about progress within a progressive style of music. Yeah I get it. And I have nothing against it.

And to ALL Rush fans, here is a point to ponder: Though I LOVE Rush BIG TIME, I can throw this out there....if any band changed over the years as much as Rush has, they would be refered to as "sell outs" A band that takes pride in being so true to themselves musically sure know how to roll with the times. Ever watch the video's from the GUP album?? They look like an Ah-Ha cover band, boppin' all over the place with their 80's hair-cuts, Geddy dancing behind a keyboard. Or how about tuning down to "d" in Stick It Out on Counterparts, Alex wearing those clothes in the video, with the ripped up gloves with no fingers; and his SOUND, from the chimey 80's chords to thick beefy pro-grunge distortion of the 90's? A co-incidence?

I am not saying they ever sold out, but all this CHANGE would be refered to as alot of selling out if it were other bands changing that drastically from era to era. Sure they were surviving with the times, and I respect and love them for that. BUT, what got them to where they are is the music they wrote in the 70's and the early 80's. THAT was Rush's style. Sometimes, change can be un-needed, and sound a little forced. What do you all think? (and don't get all personal with me! I'm just oopening up a good debate!)

One last thing. When The Beatles changed within a ten year span, some of their changes were due to influences. But the rest of it, they were total pioneers. No one was writing songs like they were, from the mop-top era to the Sgt. Peppers era to the Abbey Roard era. THAT is change that set trends of their own, styles of their own, unique sounds of their own, that no one else did before them. (with a few minor exceptions) It was not change for the sake of change, or because everyone else around them were writing that way. THEY were the true innovators. Still, I'm a way bigger Rush fan than a Beatles fan, anyday.

o.k I'll welcome the on-slought.

Burak,

I agree with you 100%. Maybe we can get Tom Johnson to agree with some of this. A band must have a blue-print and within staying true to the blu-print go many places. (MIKE PORTNOY DREAM THEATER) Rush could have arrived at Hold your fire/Presto/Roll the Bones/T4E/Counterparts and stayed there. You can still grow and change within a context and still be fresh. It is so hard however for a band to have something that works and keep it for 10 albums, but I think RUSH is a band that has that potential.

People throw the term "sell out" around way too much and without really realizing what it means. A band that gets a hit off a record is not a sellout. A band that constantly tries to emulate the big hits of the time for their own big hit, that's a sellout. That is not Rush. Rush is simply a band that rolls with the changes in music so they can stay fresh. They're not trying to write the next big hit, they're just trying to write the music they want to play. If they've been influenced by the times, that's just because they're musicians who stay current, not ones who constantly look back like most bands their age. It also influences their choices in live songs - as they've said, they make out a big list of songs they'd like to play, and each one can veto any song for any reason. They've said that there are a number of songs the fans are desperate to hear that, for one reason or another, they just can't bring themselves to play again. To do anything else - well, that would be selling out, wouldn't it? Don't we want these guys to be up on stage playing the songs they want to play?

Rush has stayed very true to themselves through all the changes their music has gone through. Every step of the way, you've known it was Rush, instantly. They've never compromised or bent to someone else's demands, never twisted anything to suit the top-40 music world's desires, and never done anything even for just the fans. This is a band that has managed to cultivate a massive force of fans simply by doing exactly what they want to do, and, in fact, I think most fans want them to keep on doing just that. I can't really think of many other rock bands that can make that claim and still have this level of success. That's awesome, isn't it?

Hi Guys:
Allow me do my part: as a Cuban guy who loves the dream-ambience-tech scene, from Delerium to FSOL to Deftones to Rammstein, I'd really love ( and I know will be hard to get) to see another prog CD.
Rush, even in underwear and without shaving a inch, will be always Rush for me ( and truly, keyboards sounds great on any car stereo )
But, in the same way I love Presto or Test, I do with Vapor and will with Snakes.
Rush on West Palm Beach on June 15 !! See u there.
Ahh, I will be in Toronto in just a week, I hope to drop by Lifeson's joint, along with wife and baby.
Yihaaa !!

I think we have covered alot of ground and hit all the main topics of concern. Let's focus now on Snakes and Arrows. The title and the tracks do concern me a bit as well, however I know what the overall theme is going to be for the CD and like it. Also, I know some of the significance behind the titles because I read about them in Roadshow. Can anyone go on record as actually hearing more than just Far Cry? If so, please describe some. I have heard that its REALLY heavy. Also, does anyone know of an official cover art yet? I have also heard there is going to be a limited edition version with a 26 page booklet. (25,000) I will be PISSED if I don't get one of those. Also, I am very very very excited about the DVD in studio footage that is going to be included.

Like I said before I want this album to be MAGNIFICIANT. I'm hoping for at least one bravado type ballad. I see that as being hard for them however because there going for the heavy feel.

Commentary please.

Presale tix tomorrow morning for most shows! How hard is it to get front 10 rows or so, anyone ever have any luck?

PS: All I know about the new album is that it's going to be more technical/heavy than the previous ones and that the lyrical deal with Peart's ideas on religion and asso. cultures. Hopefully Neil is open minded and doesn't try to think he's too smart (as he's done w/ many topics in the past, but I still love'em)...

Reading some of these "impassioned" comments makes me embarrassed to be a rush fan. Launching personal attacks over whose a bigger/smarter Rush fan? My God. "Who's the bigger dork" is more like it. Get a life.

Guys,

I'm getting F'N exited. I just printed out Neil's "The Game of Snakes and Arrows" Prize Every Time and I can't wait to read it. I like the way it prints out with green and snakes and arrows watermarks under the articles' print.

Nice little treat for tonight.

For those wondering what Tony's talking about, it's Neil's latest essay about the making of the album, available here. This will likely be the essay for the tourbook, so if you consider that a spoiler of sorts, don't read it. It's a good read, however. Very, very looking forward to this album, as little as I like this very ugly Leela gameboard artwork that he's so excited about.

Tom...thanks for the link!!! BUT, I am hesitant to read it. I want to have something to sink my teeth into after a concert. Man this is going to be tough to resist!

Regarding the pre-sale seats, they won't be the best available. Still, for those who want a guarantee for a seat, go for it for sure. This year, my schedule permits me to see them four times, if I'm lucky. Twice in Florida, and twice in Ontario back home. I may even take the chance and go to the opener, in Atlanta. Kobra77, what are you on about? We're all good here man, and we're all excited about the new album. If being a Rush fan and debating about our passion on this forum makes me a dork, then what does that make you? We've dropped it, so please don't re-hash any of it. We've moved on to other things now....

Tony, ever give Marathon or Grand Designs (one of my fabvourite songs is Grand Designs) a listen on a huge fuck-off stero, as loud as it would be at a concert? The room that Peart recorded his drums for those two albums (PW and HYF) was a big stone room with natural reverb. Best drum sound was on those two albums, in my opinion. Along with Moving Pictures....is there ANY way these guys are going to play Camera Eye?? I know they don't like that song, but man, that would be amazing. In Europe, when bands and solo artists perform a great song, the crowd usually chants "AGAIN! AGAIN!" and it ends up being repeated on the spot. Now, wouldn't that be a buzz if Rush did that, and played a song twice? Bring back an underground song like Jacobs Ladder, or Circumstances, and play it twice? Yeah I know, I'm dreaming.

Tom,

Give the cover a chance. When it was first presented to me I hated it, and prefered the highway cover with relief. However, now for some reason, tonight after visiting the Power Windows site, they offer a nice link after clicking on the image it blows up full size. The colors and art work bordering the picture is beautiful. After reading Neil's reasoning for including it makes it that much more beautiful. I love the blue, green transitions around the edges. I also think it's cool that they used tarot cards for Vaper Trails and Dice in RTB... All games of sorts.

Also,

I guess its been awhile since I gave Vapor a serious listen. I forgot how many songs I ACTUALLY LIKE on that CD and many are going to think I'm crazy, but I think I'm finally starting to "get" that CD (after all the bitching)

Here are my ABSOLUTE FAVORITES in order:

Earthshine (BEAUTIFUL SONG conjures up imagery of a large moon at night. I picture myself looking over the tops of darkened pine trees to a dark blue sky and then the luminescent moon glowing light down on me. I am walking at night in a forest admiring the earths beauty.

Anyway not to get to sentimental. I love the imagery the song provokes.

Fresze - This song is an "oyster" That raw complex beauty as Neil writes in his new synopsis of the upcoming album.

Ghost Rider - Remindes me of getting away and taking a road trip by myself.

Secret touch-- JUST GREAT

How it is- That's LIFE !!!

Vapor Trails - just a classic classy sounding RUSH track

Sweet Miracle - great song just because

As for the rest I like Ceiling Unlimited and maybe Stars look down.

The rest gets weird as I have put it. Although at one time I thought Freeze was weird.

Burak,

I have not listened to those songs in that manner, if I do correctly recollect. However, that's my next assignment. Just need to find me one of those fuck-off stereo's :)

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