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<title>Comment by Clavos on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509342</link>
<description>Buenas tardes, amigo. (Aquí son las 2115 horas)

It&#039;s &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/11/024854.php&quot;&gt;already published,&lt;/A&gt; Stan.</description>
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<title>Comment by STM on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509337</link>
<description>Hey ... afternoon Clav old chap (it&#039;s 1pm Friday here, which also means it&#039;s nearly Saturday). I see by your comment in Spanish above to Nalle that you have an article pending. I will look forward to reading it. What&#039;s it on this time?? Or will that be letting the cat out of the bag?</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:06:30 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Clavos on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509327</link>
<description>Bloody Yanks...</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:47:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by STM on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509322</link>
<description>SR said: &quot;My fathers parents were sharecroppers in Alabama.&quot;

I knew it: a bloody red neck. And fyi, I have some aboriginal background in my family, so I do know a bit about how black people were treated in this country.

And you are right, we probably don&#039;t have any advanced technology in this country. Just as well really, or I&#039;d spend all my time on the internet talking to Americans with no sense of humour.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:41:25 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509220</link>
<description>Richard,

I wasn&#039;t responding to you.  This is not summer camp or some other juvenile event where people join clicks.  Thanks for the added comment though.
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I think handyguy is smart enough to know what to take seriously.  He&#039;s quite clever.

I think he is right.  I acknowledged that he may have a point. I have always acknowledged on these boards that sometimes I won&#039;t edit.  Sorry.

I don&#039;t think however that my not editing my comments makes me sound like a bigot.  That is not constructive advice;  that is silly (its actually stupid but that word is mean so I wont use it).  He was reaching on that one and why would I take that as advise?  Why would anyone?  

I also meant it when I said that he sounded reconciliatory.  Men wont say I was wrong, you know, you are one.  They will find a way to blame you for their misunderstanding you.

You still haven&#039;t admitted that you were wrong about how you interpreted my statements now have you.  See?  And you probably never will.  You&#039;re a guy.

Look let go of the anger against me.  You have nothing to be mad at.  You won&#039;t be able to out argue me, I will spank you generously when I choose to every time. You will be left confused and angry and I will walk away only hungrier for a real debate.  You thought because I was a female that you could approach me with some weak emotional rubbish and I would fold.  Sorry Luv.  Next time spend some time put in a few more hours at the gym before you approach the ring.  But better yet don&#039;t come in swinging if no one is attacking.  You may just get knocked out. 

If I don&#039;t know something though, I will say.  I enjoy learning. 

BTW I enjoy your posts most of the time. You went loony on this one.  UNDERSTANDABLY... it&#039;s too close to the heart.
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:03:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by sr on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509204</link>
<description>STM. Love your preconceived ideas about me. Have I been watching too many movies. Not really but it,s quite obvious you do since you know all about men and seem envious wishing you could be out beer drinking, rideing around in dem their pick-up trucks, and shooting dem guns. Bet you dont know a trigger from a barrel. No a trigger is not Roy Rogers horse. To find the true definition of Red-Neck see Mr Webster or maybe an internet search. Thats if you Aussie,s have advanced technology. Just for your interest my father is black and my mother is Jewish and are both deceased many years ago. My fathers parents were sharecroppers in Alabama. Enought said.     </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:39:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Richard Rothstein on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509203</link>
<description>Zedd: Handyguy made some excellent and constructive points and your response was to resort to an idiotic comic book stereotype about &quot;guys.&quot; </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:38:34 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509200</link>
<description>handyguy

you may be right.

so is that your male way of saying you were wrong?

i know you&#039;ll never admit it... its a guy thing.

Conclusion, you misunderstood me to be a bigot because you dont read a lot and I have typos.... OKAY.  


HELP!!</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:29:46 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by handyguy on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509193</link>
<description>Zedd, maybe it&#039;s just that you are not a very gifted writer.  Way too many words.  Way too many misspellings.  Awful grammar. Comments that go on for days without saying much.  

You claim to have a lot of knowledge, but very little of it comes through in your poorly written and edited little masterpieces of silliness.  

These can often be read as the rantings of an anti-gay bigot.  If that is not what you are, be more careful about the words you put on the page.  

Read and re-read and edit before posting.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:16:45 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509149</link>
<description>Jet 

Oh My!!!! What case are you resting??  That I used the word homosexual??  That was the last &quot;argument&quot; that you presented and that was weird.

oops I&#039;m asked 2 questions.

You cant just say, I rest my case after saying something stupid like &quot;you use the word homosexual.....&quot; uhhhmmmmmm huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh?

How is that a case? I MUST know.  

I know, I&#039;m a bigot for asking, I don&#039;t use logic and I&#039;m a fool but PLEASE enlighten me.  What case have you made that you are resting???

BTW what you described (in your precious way) about how I handle debate, THAT is what critical thinking IS.  THAT is how one arrives at logic.  You didn&#039;t know did you?. You thought it was restating something that you&#039;ve heard before that was said by someone you admire.  It&#039;s not. 
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:01:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509112</link>
<description>D&#039;oh

Your an emotional wreck too huh?? No thinking capability, just reaction.  If its smarmy, cynical and jabby its smart.  

Did you bother to read what troll was upset about??? 

If that makes sense to you and is logical to you....... sigh

What was logical about what he said?? Help me understand.

SMT youve got sense read this crap and tell me what you see. Oh SMT is Australian hmmmmmmmm</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:31:52 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509111</link>
<description>Jet one learns by asking questions.

I don&#039;t want to make conclusions on what you say without asking you what you mean.  

I know all of that is out of style and maybe scary and evil to you but that is how people used to do it and still do it around the world..... I know...... you are supposed to say what everyone else says and not think for yourself.  You are not supposed to ask questions (that is bad now...wow).  You are not supposed to ad an intellectual component to a discussion or else everyone gets all confused and curses at you.  Logic is equivalent to smarting off and regurgitating unrelated, over stated ideas .  

Hmmmm I wonder why the world say that Americans are dumb???
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:24:32 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by troll on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509091</link>
<description>&#039;...I only wanted to carve a little &#039;z&#039; in her forehead&#039;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:58:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jet in Columbus on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509048</link>
<description>I rest my case</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:15:59 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by D&#039;oh on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509045</link>
<description>as far as thoughtfullness, reason and insight goes...

troll &gt; Zedd

We can now add humor to the equation.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:14:14 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jet in Columbus on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509044</link>
<description>Zedd, the very fact that you question everything that is written to you makes it obvious that unless the opinions expressed conform to your&#039;s you don&#039;t really pay attention to them.

You brand everything with a judgmental adjective instead of pondering its meaning.

Further discussion with you is completely useless.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:14:07 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509041</link>
<description>Troll

next time you agree with me just say &quot;I agree&quot;.  Dont agree, then kiss up to the person who doesn&#039;t agree with me by insulting me.  Wimp!  I mean we are on line. You don&#039;t have to fit in. Geez!!

Its called A SPINE and having the courage of your convictions.

NOW I&#039;m being ugly on purpose :o)  Phew that was fun.  Sorry.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:12:05 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509025</link>
<description>Jet 
re: #123

WHAT??????????

The term IS homosexual isn&#039;t it= Same sex.  

If that term is offensive I REALLY didn&#039;t know it.  When did that happen?? I do apologies.  I didn&#039;t want to keep writing &quot;gays and lesbians&quot;.

As for the rest of your comments, they have nothing to do with me or anything that I have ever espoused or cared about.  You are just arguing with an imaginary villain now aren&#039;t you. Its obvious that you are tired and have lost focus.  Lets come back to this discussion some other time.


  
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:54:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509021</link>
<description>Jet

I stand by my statement.  Did you read what I was responding to?   

Troll or someone was suggesting that same gender couples will have the same issues as mixed gender couples.  Now Jet... would you not respond by saying &quot;are you okay?&quot;  Actually you probably would be more rude.  That assertion is asinine.  I believe he knows it but just wants to be &quot;PC&quot; (I hate that phrase).  It&#039;s simply absurd.  But all I said is &quot;are you okay?&quot; and that offended you??  Are YOU okay??

Did you read what these guys said about me?  

To ask if they are OKAY is far less offensive than calling them names.  They called me names.

Aren&#039;t you being a tad bit biased?? 

Did you respond to them asking them if they are listening to themselves?

Actually you asking me if I am listening to myself amounts to &quot;are you okay?&quot;. 
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:43:51 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-509007</link>
<description>Richard

What do you object to?  Okay you have proven that you are good at insulting strangers.

Now what exactly do you have a problem with?

You feel as if being EXHAUSTED is what (???) and should be maintained in order to do what?? 


My response to you was about you saying you were exhausted.  I took it that you were frustrated with people who don&#039;t understand your challenges.  I am saying if you understand why they feel that way you will be alleviated from your frustration. 

You however are arguing as if you WANT to be exhausted.  As if being exhausted is part of what will gain you your civil rights.  As if me saying &quot;don&#039;t be exhausted, strategies&quot; is evil.  

Why do you want to be exhausted?  Is it for dramatic affect or to prove that you are a victim?  I&#039;m just not getting it.  You&#039;re mad because you want to remain exhausted and I am a fool and a bigot because I am saying that you really don&#039;t have to be so exasperated if you understand people.  WOW, that&#039;s evil..(???)

Okay be EXHAUSTED.  Enjoy it.  Swim in it.  Dance in it. Waddle in it. Roll around in your mosh pit of self pitty. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEzzz! But that wont solve your problem.  You wont get civil rights that way.

Done!

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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:32:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jet in Columbus on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
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<description>Okay I&#039;ve got it now Zedd. On the other side of the coin straight guys are jealous of Gay men because they understand each other&#039;s male sex drive like no woman can, and deep down you&#039;re jealous because straight guys have to cowtow to the whim os a female&#039;s lack of wanting sex 24-7, where two guys want it constantly... and get it from each other constantly... and give it to each other constantly.

After all, that&#039;s why you keep using the term &quot;homoSEXual&quot; isn&#039;t it, because that&#039;s the only thing we think about. Of course you can&#039;t face the fact that that&#039;s what all straight men constantly think about too... right? 

Those straight guys must be eating their hearts out because we get it whenever we want it, usually without even asking?

dear God.</description>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
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<description>Alec

ummmm I am FOR gays attaining the same rights as married couples.

I have not discussed it because that is not what this thread is about.  This thread is about a man who feels exhausted because of having to deal with a society that doesn&#039;t understand his views.  

There was a thread, actually two, just a couple of weeks ago on the subject that you want to discuss.  

I made it clear, I am all for equal civil rights for gays.

Now breath........ 
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:18:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Richard Rothstein on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-508996</link>
<description>Zedd, every time you post another comment, I become more and more convinced that you are either on the cusp of a diabetic coma or you think that opening fortune cookies, watching Oprah and reading The Reader&#039;s Digest constitutes knowledge.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:13:32 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zedd on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-508992</link>
<description>troll


Don&#039;t argue for the sake of arguing.  

You got what I was saying.  So stop being silly. 

You get the whole men are from mars and women are from venus thing.  Dont fane ignorance just to make a point.

ex Two lesbians will be more sensitive when a partner is PMSing or cramping or has a migrane because of hormonal issues. The historical challanges that come up in marriage over just those issues will not exist.  There are many more issues like that from the ages which come, with the package of being married.  Same sex relationships will not and can not have that, hence its NOT the same thing.

If you got a group of married men together from different cultures, races or ethnicities around the world and just started a topic, EVERYONE would chime in because of the gender related challanges of married.  Same with women, regardless of how opressive the culture. Add a gay couple to the same mixs and they wont be able to fully identify.  

Is this not common sense???

As a side note:

Heck gay men will never know just how stupid men are because they wont have a wife to make them look like idiots because of her keener awareness:o) They will live together in oblivian thinking they are clever.

Lesbians will not know to what extent men are dense because they wont live with them, having to point out the simplest of things. :o)        </description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:06:48 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jet in Columbus on An Exhausted Gay American</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/01/06/002620.php#comment-508979</link>
<description>Zedd, Dear God, are you listening to yourself?

&lt;i&gt;Are you Okay? Is this an issue to be debated?? It seems to me that you want to be percieved to be OPEN MINDED at the expense of your logic. &lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a difference between preaching and talking just to hear yourself talk.</description>
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