Interview: Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Candidate for Texas House District 10 - Part 1
Published September 18, 2006
DN. If you get elected as a Libertarian you're going to be in a situation where you'll face some hostility in the House of Representatives from the other two parties. That will impact committee appointments, how you can do your job effectively and your ability to even get legislation on the floor to be considered. Ron Paul dealt with this problem by joining the Republican party and trying to form a little enclave there of people who have similar ideas and getting enough acceptance that way to be taken seriously. He still hasn't gotten the best committee appointments and he still doesn't have as much power as some of the others in congress. How would you deal with that two party domination in congress?
MB: One of Ron Paul's problems is that he is marginalized by his own party. The Republican Party of Texas has been trying to get him out of Congress by gerrymandering his large Republican district into a small Democratic district. I'm sure the Republicans assumed that the Democrats would take care of him in 2004, but apparently the Democrats didn't get the memo and they didn't run a candidate against him, fortunately. I love Ron Paul. He is clearly my hero in Washington as he is for millions of Americans across the United States, but he's like a man with one foot on the dock and one foot in the boat and he has to be very, very careful how he straddles that stuff, because he does have to tiptoe on eggshells around the Republican Party. I wouldn't have that limitation. You mentioned that I might get some hostility from the other members of Congress - Bring it on! I wouldn't have to worry about following the Democrats or Republicans. I could vote the Constitution. The wonderful thing about my being elected is that it would, first of all, shatter the myth that Libertarians could not get elected, and in the 2008 election I'm sure that there would be lots of electoral politics going on as Libertarians nationwide were seen with more credibility. I believe that the Libertarian presidential candidate in 2008 would finally make it to the debates having a sitting member of Congress to endorse them and insist that all voices be heard in something as important as a presidential campaign. On a day to day basis one of Ron Paul's problems is that he cannot get legislation to the floor of the House because he can't find someone to cosponsor the bill. Parliamentary procedure demands that he at least have a second. And with me in Washington, Ron Paul would never have to worry about a second. Ron Paul and I together are far more powerful either of us could be individually.
DN: Well, would you caucus with one of the parties?
MB: No, I probably would not caucus...
- Interview: Michael Badnarik, Libertarian Candidate for Texas House District 10 - Part 1
- Published: September 18, 2006
- Type: Interview
- Section: Politics
- Filed Under: Politics: Elections and Candidates, Politics: Law and Rights, Politics: U.S.
- Part of a feature: On The Road To 2008
- Writer: Dave Nalle
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Terrific article, well done, Dave! I don't agree totally with his ideas, but I really hope he wins, because he's on target in that the current incumbents both GOP & Dem have forgotten THEY work for us, and this country desperately needs a 3rd - and even a 4th - alternative party for people to choose from. I'm surprised the GOP hasn't targeted him & started their usual smear campaign; perhaps they don't regard him as being enough of a threat? What do you hear about that?
I've always thought it was a vast mistake for alternate party candidates to run for president; without some kind of prior position such as congressman or governor, it's virtually impossible. Even Ross Perot with all his billions was unable to buck the system in the end, more's the pity.
Well, here's to Badnarik; good luck to him & all of us. Good job, Dave!
Badnarik addresses the issue you raise at some point in the interview, as I recall. His argument is that you get a lot more exposure for your ideas as a presidential candidate and if you're not going to win anyway, you want to not win with the largest possible audience.
Dave
Yeah, but look at Lyndon LaRouche, the perennial Presidential candidate. He's been running for eons, but his platform gets nowhere. It's a joke. Now if he'd perhaps gone (back before he became a household byword for crackpot) for a local position & solidified from there, to a seat in the Virginia assembly, and from there to a seat in congress or perhaps governor, he'd have had a viable position from which to get out the message. As it is, he's just the crackpot who runs for president every 4 years. As I said, I think it would take someone with the bank account of a Bill Gates to try to break in on a national level, these days, and even that would be an uphill job, given the ruthless desperation of the two entrenched parties to prevent anyone else from joining the fray. After all, look at the savaging Bush/Rove inflicted on fellow Republicans; talk about eating your own young! I hardly think they'd be nicer to a wanna-be 3rd party or its candidate.
Anyway, I DO hope he wins. Good job, Dave.
What larouche runs for is kind of irrelevant since he's so obviously a deranged maniac.
Very interesting interview, Dave.
I like much most of Badnarik's ideas expressed here, but I'm not in agreement with his wanting to do away with GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, and trade agreements in general.
I'm afraid if we do, other nations will impose tarriffs and other restrictions unilaterally, and the net result will be a loss of market position on a worldwide basis for American businesses.
He makes a strong point when he talks about his potential for supporting and backing up Ron Paul.
I wonder how realistic he is when he dismisses your point about committee memberships?
Now if we can keep idiots from confusing the Libertarians from the Communists he'll be all set.
I really like the way Michael Badnarik explains his positions. I am so glad that I contributed to his campaign for Congress in Texas. I wish him the best.
I like Michael Badnarik very much, but I'm really dismayed by this quote and the implications: "If you are here illegally you have just demonstrated that you have no respect for law and it is not immigration."
I appreciate that there are problems associated with the massive not government approved immigration from Mexico, particularly involving the US welfare state getting stuck picking up the slack from sub-living wages. That's more a reason to reform and cut back on various aspects of the welfare state than to be against immigration though, I'd argue.
But this common argument that being here illegally means that you're an outlaw is absolutely bullshit, and it's especially dismaying to hear this from a Libertarian. As a good Libertarian, Badnarik won't recognize laws that are unconstitutional. Beyond that, he won't recognize the legal legitimacy of the income tax, which is constitutional, on grounds that they are violations of our basic liberty. I'm right there with him on all that. Just because some legislature passes a law or a judge makes an edict does not automatically make it legitimate or morally binding.
But then how does someone who speaks this way turn around in the next sentence and demonize people coming here to work for people who want to hire them and rent them places to live, just because the government has arbitrarily decided that they can't?
And he's certainly kidding himself if he thinks that a serious crackdown on unapproved immigration won't involve some kind of ugly national ID crap. Jumpin' Jehosaphat, this fellow spent years refusing to get a driver's license on principle- and now he's wanting ID for people to establish their right even to walk the street.
Very good point, Al. Many Libertarians believe in open borders and I did ask Badnarik about this and got a kind of cagey inadequate answer rejecting open borders but not really addressing the implications. I really wanted to take him to task on some of this, but I didnt' think it was my place as the interviewer to start lecturing him. He's a nice guy, but even though he's more sensible than the norm of Libertarians, he's still not dealing entirely in the real world.
We had an interesting talk outside of the interview about some aspects of LP politics that I didn't have any formal questions on, and apparently even the small compromises with practicality which he's made have pissed off a lot of the far-out Murray Rothbard style Libertarians - the same people who protest when Neal Boortz gets invited to speak at their convention.
Dave
"... dumped...like most of the other 'Fighting Dems' - and he's getting no financial support from the party.."
How much is Bush paying you to claim this?
got any evidence?
I didn't think so.
'me', what is your problem? The abandonment of the Fighting Dems by the DCCC is well documented. And can't you use a hyperlink? I provided a link to DailyKos specifically about how Ankrum has been dumped.
One would think that if you're a 'new democrat' you'd be outraged at Rahm Emanuel and the DCCC for their outrageous treatment of the Fighting Dems rather than taking it out on me for mentioning it.
Dave
The DCCC's support (or lack thereof) for Ankrum has more to do with the 10th district's conservative leanings rather than the fact that Ankrum is a fighting Dem. You can't win them all...I suspect their money is going into more "winnable" districts.
Doesn't this district include a big chunk of Austin? Why does that not make it good for a demoxrat?


Dave Nalle has been a magazine editor, freelance writer, capitol hill staffer, game designer and taught college history for many years. He is Vice Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus, working to promote liberty in the GOP. He designs fonts for a living and lives with his family just outside Austin. You can find his writings on politics and culture at 


Good for Michael Badnarik, I hope he wins. Finally, Libertarians are getting some press.
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Good article, looking forward to part 2.