It's funny you think about this song like that Elvira, because back in the eighties there were quite a few of us who took it to heart. The United States was in the midst of a mass covert was against the Sandinista government, trading arms to the Iranians for money to fund the Contras in flagrent disregard of their own arms embargo.

The us and them mentality was not about forces from outside the country, but the ones inside who were looking to change the direction of the moral tone of our lives. It was the Regan Revolution in the States, Thatcher in England, and we had our junior version of the two of them in Brian Mulroney up here.

It was the fight to stand up for the poor and the sick who were beging to be sucked under by the tax credits for the wealthy and the cutting of social programs in those three countries. The war was between the people who paid the price for the excesses of the eighties, who had Trump tower built on their backs, and thousands of B.M.W. paid for out of their pockets.

Of course the situation is a lot worse, but to be honest back on 9/11 2001 after I had gotten over the horror and the shock, a few days later my reaction was, I wonder why it took so long, and why did nobody see it coming? We'ed lived in such isolated splendour on our island between the Atlantic and the Pacific oceans and been on the edge of terrorsim so many times - the Air India flight that took off from Vancouver and blew up - Oklahoma City - The World Trade Centre the first time - the bomb had been ticking and we just kept burying our heads deeper and deeper into the sand.

The clock continues to tick, but we have always had the capabiltiy to turn back the hands if we only wanted to, it's either that or wage a needless war for who knows how many lifetimes.

peace

Richard Marcus

Richard:

Thanks for the great comment. I'm ashamed to say that back in '79 and well into the eighties, I was pretty much blissfully oblivious to world events. I'd just graduated college where I co-majored in sex, drugs, and rock and roll, and keeping on top of the latest music and standing on line to see my fave bands at NY clubs were my big priorities. In short, I was a young fool, but the culture of the time was my bread and butter, and I couldn't imagine life without my record collection. Sad but true.

I agree completely that the warning signs have been with us for some time. I hope against hope that we can turn back the hands, but it's hard to be optimistic right now.

Elvira, loving music = being a fool? EEK! That means I've been a fool for a very long time now. Sorry!

Christopher:

I know full well that you are nobody's fool!

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Thanks Connie!

That era's music was very political. You call it post-punk, although I never really knew where the punk and new wave movements began or ended. We used to listen to it all. In punk, you had The Clash, The Dead Kennedys, and Fear, all of whom had political messages. The more new-wave bands like The B-52's, The Police, Talking Heads, The Tubes, I could go on listing these all day. Man, how I miss them. Lyrically, they were all political or at least social activists.

Baronious:

I'd say punk was more political than new wave (in general). I can't think of any political angle for the B-52's, for example, unless you count their name. But one of my favorite political songs from that era was Heaven 17's "We Don't Need that Fascist Groove Thing." Remember that one?

elvira--"new wave" is punk. it's only revisionist history that has differentiated the two. "new wave" was the original term for punk, and what we now consider to be "new wave" is just what became popular during the post-punk era, which itself was only differentiated from punk in that it expanded punk's original horizons (which were, let's face it, quite limited).

the politics of new wave, if one must, were more personal or sexual, but politics they were nonetheless.

zingzing:

In the context of this piece, I was referring to the more common def of political. Certainly there were elements of the political in some new wave music--Elvis Costello, XTC, the Clash, Heaven 17 and others at least occasionally addressed world affairs in their songs. But I would say that sexual politics have always been a component of popular music--the blues, for example, is steeped in it.

that's true, elvira, but the blues looked at sexual politics from an angle, while plenty of new wave looks at it head on. ever heard the au pairs? "it's obvious/diet" should be your first stop. gang of four would wrap economic policy into relationship songs. throbbing gristle made songs about rape and holocaust allusions. i guess what i'm trying to say is that politics was key to new wave, just wrapped up in metaphors... in a way, it's far more subversive than punk ever was.

zingzine:

Ah, you're taking me way back! It's Obvious (as in "you're equal but different?") Gang of Four (I Love a Man in a Uniform, right?) I can see what you mean if that song is an example. And good old Throbbing Gristle (though Hamburger Lady is about all I remember of them). Yes, you make an excellent point. What a great era for music.

Oops, sorry--that's zingzing, I mean...