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<title>Comment by Nancy on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Has Obrador conceded? I had read this morning that he vowed to contest any decision in favor of Calderon as election fraud?
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<title>Comment by Howard Dratch on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>You are right about the latest news of Calderon winning the election. Is that good or bad?  For us?  For Mexico?

This is an old culture with traditions far older than the US and the English common law.  Democracy is new needs tinkering and experimenting.
Today I spoke with a young, middle-class (not ruling class), educated man -- a government functionary.  He was happy with the win, perhaps triumphant.  The PAN President may win him stability and power in what had been a two-class culture.  I also talked with our house- and body-guard who was a paratrooper for 7 years in the Mexican military.  He is a worker, ambitious and bright, with high hopes for his sons for whom he is planning university education.  He will find a way to give them education, freedom and ambition, too.  He is a firm supporter of Manuel Lopez Obrador and echoed the fear of the newly enfranchised population -- that Obrador was somehow robbed of his win.

It was, no question, a close race.  That doesn&#039;t mean a winner and a loser.  It means a winner and a coalition party (P.T./P.R.D.) that has just tasted power.  

It is the next 6 years that are now in the air.  Who will gain power and who will be co-opted, recruited and accepted.  What surprises will 2012 bring?

Whatever, these people were workers, indigenous, disenfranchised -- they were really not a &quot;Leftist rag-tag brigade from South America&quot; (Mexico is in North America, by the way).  They were a new force and the next years will be a test for a newly-hatched democratic tradition.


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<title>Comment by Mark Edward Manning on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>The latest news is that Calderon has won the election. Looks as if the Leftist rag-tag brigade from South America has just flown off the track (and good riddance to it).
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<title>Comment by Clavos on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Señor Howard,

According to Fox News, AMLO has officially asked for a recount.  

Kind of exciting, after all those years of the PRI winning every election uncontested.
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<title>Comment by Howard Dratch on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Today, the 4th of July in the US, Calderon continues to appear the winner according to The Big News Network which reports on Latin America.

In a report, &quot;Calderon up 1 point in Mexican balloting&quot; from &lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=b2475a2a25b09645&quot;&gt; The Big News Network&lt;/a&gt; it was reported
&lt;blockquote/&gt;Ballot-counting in Mexico&#039;s presidential election was nearly complete Tuesday, and conservative candidate Felipe Calderon had a 1 percentage point lead.

With 98 percent of polling stations reporting, Calderon led leftist Lopez Obrador by 402,000 votes, or about 1 percentage point, the Los Angeles Times reported. Obrador would need to win three-quarters of the remaining 800,000 uncounted ballots to surpass his rival. By percentage, Calderon was leading 36 percent to Obrador&#039;s 35 percent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Other reports mention that Obrador will call for an official recount.  
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<description>A sus ordenes, Howard.

I think a one term presidency in the USA is definitely something that should be given consideration, though I don&#039;t think it has much support.


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<description>Clavos.  Gracias.  I kept thinking all day I had done something dumb such as writing that the President had a 5 year term. I meant to go back and rectify the error and then never did.  Maybe we could have George Bush serve only 3 years under this system.  That would be fair.
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<description>Howard,

The presidential single term in M&amp;#233;xico is six years--that&#039;s why it&#039;s called a &quot;sexenio&quot; in Spanish.

Nancy,

Though the PRI has not had a president in office since 2000, when Ernesto Zedillo was replaced by the now outgoing Vicente Fox, they (the PRI) totally dominated and held a presidential  monopoly in Mexican politics from the Revolution in 1913 until 2000.  Still today, most government officials are PRI members or patronage recipients; thus it would be nearly impossible for one of the other parties to steal an election.
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<pubDate>Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:12:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description>First I must preface this with the fact that foreign, legal residents in Mexico are forbidden from commenting on internal politics.  Therefore, I have been very careful to make no value judgements; just reportage.

That is not to say that there are not interesting things to discuss and debate but these are amazingly quiet times with tensions just beneath the surface.

I am also of two minds about the election and the parties.  My youthful rebeliousness says one thing and my disabled, pensioned need for stability says another.  Check it out from the source, Nancy, blogs and international papers, Canal Once and others.  It was a fascinating race.  Always bear in mind that Mexico is NOT the US with a Spanish accent.  Their culture, politics, history and needs are totally different.  Mexico is itself, unique and complex and must be studied that way.  Alan Riding&#039;s book advertised above is dated now (PRI is not the ruling party) but it is a great read.  I have been through it twice.

Ruvy. Madrazo was, for the second time, the PRI candidate.  PRI ruled for over 70 years.  He was a distant third.  My wife thinks it is because he died his hair to look younger in a very masculine country.  Or PRI has lost some of its national base (state results are very different).  I will quote the results from the Cancun-based newspaper, &lt;i&gt;Por Esto&lt;/i&gt;.

The paper today, Monday, reported that PAN received 37.08% of the vote, PRD/PT 36.11%, PRI 20.9%, and Nueva Alianza 0.98%.  The vote count was 11,882,299 for PAN (Calderon) and 11,571,503 for PRD/PT (Obrador).
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<title>Comment by Ruvy in Jerusalem on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Oh, well, I guess Mandrazo does represent the PRI.  Looks like they aree in for a bit of an eclipse until they shed some weight..
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<description>Howard,

Does Mandrazo represent the the PRI?
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<title>Comment by Nancy on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Why would the hordes of the poor vote for a conservative of the party that, so far, has done nothing for them? It looks to me like the PAN are pulling a GOP &amp; stealing the election.
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<pubDate>Mon, 3 Jul 2006 13:34:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Howard Dratch on  Today&#039;s Mexican Vote Will Affect America</title>
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<description>Today, Monday, in Mexico the presidential race remains undecided and IFE, the election institute, is still determining the winner.  According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx?WTmodLoc=NewsArt-Top1-BreadCrumb-1&amp;refresh=true&quot;&gt; Reuters&lt;/a&gt; Felipe Calderon, the PAN candidate who is considered the &quot;conservative&quot; has claimed a tight win in the election.

&quot;There is an irreversible result and it is in my favor,&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&amp;storyID=2006-07-03T133232Z_01_N28358335_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEXICO-ELECTION.xml&amp;src=070306_0948_TOPSTORY_tight_race_in_mexico&quot;&gt; Calderon &lt;/a&gt; said in a television interview, looking confident. &quot;The result give me a very clear victory that cannot be reversed.&quot;

Manuel Lopez Obrador, the &quot;leftist&quot; former president of the Federal District who was feared would use his supporters to create a political crisis, said instead:
&lt;blockquote/&gt;If in the count we conduct, it turns out that the final result does not favor us, I am going to abide by the result...&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a result the value of the peso jumped 1.45% from a low point as the markets became less jittery about the Mexican situation.

The most current results are:

&quot;CALDERON 36.55 pct

LOPEZ OBRADOR 35.46 pct

MADRAZO 21.28 pct&quot;

according to&lt;a href=&quot;http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&amp;storyid=2006-07-03T130032Z_01_N03404381_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml&amp;WTmodLoc=NewsArt-L1-RelatedNews-7&quot;&gt; Reuters table&lt;/a&gt; of &quot;Presidential Election Returns&quot; from 9 AM Monday.
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<description>As of 1 AM here in Mexico the news is vacillating from saying it is impossible to decide who won, Lopez Obrador is the winner by 500,000 votes or, as President Vincente Fox Quesada said (the last announcement on Canal Once),
&lt;blockquote/&gt;El presidente Vicente Fox Quesada llamó esta noche a los actores políticos que participaron en la jornada electoral a apegarse a la legalidad y respetar los tiempos que requiere el IFE para anunciar los resultados de los comicios. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&quot;Pres. Fox called tonight for all the political participants to follow the laws and respect the time the Federal Election Institute needs to announce the results of the vote count&quot;

Exciting race.  We shall see what Monday brings.
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