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Ozzie Guillen Is Out of Control

Written by Zach Baker
Published June 25, 2006

There is no defense for Ozzie Guillen.

There is nothing anyone can write or say that can justify his latest outburst. Actually, the Chicago White Sox manager’s past diatribes have been pretty questionable. But Guillen went further than ever before, referring to Chicago Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti as a derogatory term for homosexuals.

For his remark, Guillen should have faced more than a fine and sensitivity training. Baseball does have a precedent for this kind of thing, and from the looks of it, Guillen didn’t receive a slap on the wrist. It was more of a firm handshake.

For his remark, Guillen was fined an undisclosed amount and told to undergo sensitivity training.

Most of us would be on our knees thanking the commissioner for his kindness (and spinelessness). But Guillen still thought the punishment was too harsh, implying in an interview he wouldn’t go to sensitivity classes.

Forget what Guillen said he meant. He knew very well what he was saying. Most of us, I’m sure, have been called the term he called Mariotti at some point in our lives.

Of course, the last time I was called that was in eighth grade. It hurt then, but I look at it now as 13-year old immaturity. It didn’t make it right, but it was at least explainable.

The 42-year old Guillen has no such excuse. Instead of apologizing, the manager continues to dig.

He defended his remarks by saying he went to WNBA games. One can only guess what he was implying there.

Mariotti is not a very sympathetic character (I call him such because he appears to play one on Around the Horn), but to his credit, he has taken the high road on this one, saying he’s been called worse. He has not lashed back at Guillen so much as said what most of us seem to think: Ozzie needs help. He suggested a two-week suspension for Guillen in a Chicago Sun-Times column Thursday. He also suggested Guillen use the time off to think and go to sensitivity classes.

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Published: June 25, 2006
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#1 — June 25, 2006 @ 17:40PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

The next of his choice quotes will be very telling. He's in the thick of another pennant race and not everything's going so well for him.

Why Showalter? Mike Scioscia's team was the AL runner up. Eric Wedge was second in the MoY voting. Or how about Jim Leyland?

#2 — June 25, 2006 @ 17:59PM — Zach Baker [URL]

I just chose Showalter because he and Guillen don't get along. By that logic, 400 people could manage the AL.

#3 — June 26, 2006 @ 03:03AM — RJ Elliott [URL]

GASP! The bad man said a mean thing! He must be PUNISHED!!!

Give me a break. Guillen is an idiot, but he is within his constitutional rights to call people who he doesn't like bad names.

In the Latino world, calling someone a "fag" doesn't really mean you are calling them a homosexual. It's more like calling them a "pussy" or a "dickhead."

Is it juvenile? Sure. But does it merit hyperbolic demands for severe punishment? Not at all.

#4 — June 26, 2006 @ 09:08AM — George [URL]

This whole HATE SPEECH/thought control stuff is absurd. Sure, what Ozzie said was irresponsible, just as what Rocker said years ago was. But everyone has a right to say whatever he wants in this country and even stupidity shouldn't be punished...legally. I mean, stupidity should be painful, but not illegal.

#5 — June 26, 2006 @ 09:17AM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

RJ, the First Amendment is not an issue here. He's not being arrested, tried, jailed, anything like that.

There's just this protocol that involves not calling the local columnist/national voice a fag.

#6 — June 26, 2006 @ 14:09PM — RogerMDillon

RJ & George have obviously never held a job in any level of upper management in a large corporation.

Ozzie represents The White Sox and MLB so his actions and words reflect on them. They have to punish him to show that as a business they won't tolerate that kind of behavior and send a message to other employees, which they are obviously in their contractual rights to do. If Ozzie wants to quit his job, so he can freely call people names, he knows where the door is at.

"In the Latino world, calling someone a "fag" doesn't really mean you are calling them a homosexual."

I know you've spent a lot of time in the Latino world, but that's bullcrap. And calling someone a "pussy" insinuates they are effeminate, which is no different than calling them a "fag," which implies they are less than a real man.

#7 — June 26, 2006 @ 14:33PM — MCH

"Give me a break. Guillen is an idiot, but he is within his constitutional rights to call people who he doesn't like bad names."
- RJ Elliott

This logic, from the same guy who called Max Cleland a "gigantic thalidamide baby", is not surprising.

#8 — June 26, 2006 @ 16:48PM — tommyd

Guillen gets special treatment from the media and MLB, unlike Schott and Rocker, well, because, obviously, um, like Guillen is non-white and Schott and Rocker were white. There is no other explanation for it. The double standard against white people is alive and well.

And Guillen isn't the only non-white in baseball to make deragatory/racist remarks. There have been plenty, Bonds included, but of course, their lack of media attention makes me forget what they all said.

But I can tell you what Schott and Rocker said, verbatim!!!

#9 — June 26, 2006 @ 17:58PM — Wally Wilson

Any man who has gone to public school in the United States has heard MUCH worse language in the locker room than anything Ozzie has said in public, and most straight men in private have made fun of their friends by calling them "gay" or "fag" at one time or the other. As childish as this behavior may be, it IS a fact of life and human nature. As a matter of fact, gay men and women have similar humor. We all need to lighten up, and if we don't agree with Ozzie, don't pay any attention to him. He's just a big grown up kid, and also a latin man who doesn't share our culture.

#10 — June 26, 2006 @ 18:09PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

Tommy: "Guillen gets special treatment from the media and MLB, unlike Schott and Rocker, well, because, obviously, um, like Guillen is non-white and Schott and Rocker were white."

BZZT. (Audience awws)

Ooh, sorry. We were looking for "won a World Series."

Won a World Series. Thanks for playing though!

(consolation organ ditty)

#11 — June 26, 2006 @ 18:27PM — MCH

I don't know, I'm not an expert or anything, but shouldn't a sports editor know that Schott's Reds won the Series in 1990...(?)

#12 — June 26, 2006 @ 18:38PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

Probably, if he wants to use facts to make his point. But what fun is that?

#13 — June 26, 2006 @ 18:50PM — MCH

(audience snickers)

#14 — June 26, 2006 @ 18:54PM — MCH

(organ player shakes head, glances at host disgustly)

#15 — June 27, 2006 @ 23:59PM — RJ Elliott [URL]

"In the Latino world, calling someone a "fag" doesn't really mean you are calling them a homosexual."

I know you've spent a lot of time in the Latino world, but that's bullcrap.


I, actually, have spent quite a bit of time working with, and befriending, Latinos. And calling someone a "pato" or a "maricon" or a "cabron" does NOT mean that the speaker actually believes his target is a duck, or a homosexual, or a cuckold. Instead, it is meant as a generic insult, sort of a ritual ball-busting that Latino men give to their male peers in certain circumstances.

And calling someone a "pussy" insinuates they are effeminate, which is no different than calling them a "fag," which implies they are less than a real man.

Calling another man a "pussy" is indeed an insult, because it implies that he is weak and cowardly. But it has nothing to do with homosexuality. (And many homosexuals are anything but "weak" or "cowardly" ... I work with and have befriended quite a few of them, as well ... )

#16 — June 29, 2006 @ 11:36AM — Rob Swift [URL]

The reason in my opinion that Ozzie Guillen received such a short suspension and lite punishment is simple, baseball needs him. First off, he took the White Sox to the Series and won, what a story right? He was the League's first Venezuelan (sp) born manager as then the first one to win a Series. Again, what a story.

Next is that he is a very colorful character, he is always talking and people tune in to either support him or loathe him, but the key thing is they tune in.

Bud Selig, Kenny Williams, and Jerry Reinsdorf will do nothing of the sort when it comes to getting rid of Ozzie Guillen. He puts fannies in the seats, rings on fingers, and trophies in the front office.

Unless he comes right out and starts walking around in a Nazi Outfit quoting Stalin and Hitler, he aint going anywhere. He will in fact be on full display for the upcoming All Star Game, and you know reporters will be baiting him. But regardless, a lot of people will tune in since his managerial skills are exciting and fun. People will pay money to be entertained and as long as Ozzie is generating cash by entertaining fans, he can and will pretty much say whatever he wants.

That is just the way it is.

Thanks for giving me the space to write my opinion,

Rob Swift
Athomeplate.com

#17 — June 29, 2006 @ 11:57AM — tommyd

Ozzie has degraded Major League Baseball with his "style".

Ozzie publicly reprimanding and humiliating one of his pitchers because the pitcher refused to bean an opposing player was completely overlooked by the media and MLB. Why? What if Tony LaRussa or Joe Torre did the same thing?

#18 — August 10, 2006 @ 15:14PM — RJ Elliott [URL]

The Onion on Ozzie Guillen...

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