I agree with you. Zarqwai's death is not going to change anything in Iraq, although it might work well for the administration to provide an immediate boost to their sinking numbers; but in effect that's about it.

Having said that, I don't think the death of Zarqwai has anything to do with politics. There is a big difference between the self serving politicians and the troops in Iraq. The troops do their job and the spinners in Washington spin it their way.

This is not about fabricated intelligence which under this administration has become a state of art. This is about real people fighting real evil and there's no politics into it. The war might as well be politically motivated inspired by a bankrupt ideology but the military is far from it; it is not a good idea to mix them both.

"he probably deserved to die." [emphasis mine]

Moonbat alert!

Moonbat alert! [emphasis mine]

"rightwing nutjob who can't form an argument" alert!

The electorate has a short memory, come November they'll probably forget who Zarkowi is, just like we've long since stopped cheering the capture of Sadam after buying Bush's bragging that that would change things.

Mark my owrds, they're going to avenge this, and we'll pay for it.

Jet,

You'll be lucky if the American public remembers who al Zarkawi is two weeks from now, let alone November. But that will be the work of the media trying to dumb it down, just like the media does its best to dumb down the public here.

If you went through the news stories from the area for the last year, checking off "causes for war and for total retaliatory attack," you'd finds about 30 or so on most of our neighbors, like Egypt and Syria (and its pet monkey, Lebanon), and a whole bunch on the south Syrian Arabs who style themselves "Palestinians." That is how many reasons we have had to engage in total and "final solution-type" warfare over the last year. I do not even want to think about since 2001 - it would raise my blood pressure.

Had an Israeli leader actually done so, the US (along with most of the folks at Blog Critics), the, the EU and the good old peace-loving Russkies would be on their hind legs sceaming and whining about the "peace process" and the Geneva Convention and all the other shit they wave about when they have temper tantrums of self-righteousness. Hell, there would be more than just whining - there would be boycotts, threats of invasion and everything else.

It seems both Jet and Ruvy are already starting to forget about Zarqawi as both of them spelled his name wrong. yes it is hard to spell........

it's nice to see people like qbit are such experts on al queda and military tactics in iraq that they can state with certainty "Zarqwai's death is not going to change anything in Iraq,:

from what i understand....many of the iraqi civililians.. the ones who "don't want us there" were jubilant at the news of zarqawi's death

our own military brass has stated that of course this isn't the end of terrorism in iraq or anywhere else but that zarqwai was in fact one of the best planners, funders, and recruiters in al queda....so to say that it will have absolutely no affect at all on the goings on in iraq doesn't seem to be accurate

Arch if only the "experts" were to talk, the world would fall silent.

I may be no expert simply because I'm not taking your side, your agenda, but this layman saw all this debacle, the insugency, the no-WMDs and everything coming miles away. Why didn't these supposed experts?

"he probably deserved to die." [emphasis mine]

Moonbat alert!

Oh how original. You borrow this from Wacky Malkin who also borrowed it from someone else. Let's call him a moonbat and it'll show my level of maturity and credibility to those moonbats. Yup that's the ticket.

Dave, this article is spot on...it does seem awfully convenient that this would happen right when the president's approval ratings are at an all time low, etc etc, as you pointed out.

And its natural, I think, for us to assume the worst here, as if it were some sort of ploy, because we're dealing with an administration that has deceived the masses over and over again.

But as Jet pointed out, the American attention span is only about 4 1/2 minutes, so come November, it'll be Zarqawi who?

You are perhaps correct Chantal, but this will create a wave of support and the admin will ride the wave until it finds the next one. Because before this, they were looking more and more dead in the water. And it's a great way to deflect the gay marriage fiasco which is in the now and immediate. Don't hear much about it anymore, everyone in the media is hording the Zarqawi bit. Mission accomplished no?

Yes, the administration will ride the wave, but it's a small wave. The mission may be accomplished for now, but there's still a huge mess for them to try to clean up. I'm sure they still have a few more tricks up their sleeves, but I won't give the admin the credit of being able to completely turn around public opinion.

Time to stick a fork in it...unfortunately we still have 2 1/2 more years.

This should strengthen our resolve in Iraq, even as the enemies of freedom are likely plotting to rain on the parade. This is a resolve I've encouraged even in the darkest moments of this conflict, as this song I wrote for my band, Practically Poetz, will reveal

"strengthen our resolve" "enemies of freedom"

Dude, do you write speeches for Junior? That's exactly the words he uses. It's uncanny ;-)

"You'll be lucky if the American public remembers who al Zarkawi is two weeks from now, let alone November. But that will be the work of the media trying to dumb it down, just like the media does its best to dumb down the public here."

Amen to that!

I was chatting with a co-worker the other day about the killing of Zarqawi...and he had no idea who he was. No clue. None at all.

Now, this same (relatively intelligent) fellow can talk at length about the finalists on American Idol, or the latest Dave Chappelle rerun on Comedy Central, or the lyrics to a Chamillionaire song.

But America's number one enemy in Iraq, who is directly responsible for hundreds of brutal deaths? He had no fucking clue.

I blame the media. And I don't mean the "news" media. I mean the soulless ghouls who control the minds of the masses through their ubiquitous "popular" TV shows and movies...

I also think the capture of the terrrrrrrrists in Canada was well timed to take the spotlight off Haditha. Very interesting indeed.

In the context of everything going on in Iraq, I'm not really bothered that the US bombed this guy.

What I do find a little odd is that after having him under surveillance at that address for over six weeks, why did they bomb the place rather than go in and arrest him?

Surely the intelligence he could have given under interrogation would have been invaluable? Seems sloppy to me unless there's another motive...

I also think the capture of the terrrrrrrrists in Canada was well timed to take the spotlight off Haditha. Very interesting indeed.

No doubt. Even Anderson Cooper and Co. was yammering on and on about the "unsafe" Canadian border and some dude named Falkenrath said that "I think it's clear, though, when you're worried about terrorism, you look north. You look at Canada." Yes we're a HOT BAD of terrorism, it happens all the time, car bombs, suicide bombs and the like.

Truth is, terrorists don't cross the border like migrant workers. They have papers and all they need to be let in legally.

But what can you say, they had to take the heat of Haditha.

What I do find a little odd is that after having him under surveillance at that address for over six weeks, why did they bomb the place rather than go in and arrest him?

Surely the intelligence he could have given under interrogation would have been invaluable? Seems sloppy to me unless there's another motive...

Very simple. It looks damn good on TV. Nothing like drama to get people watching. Just listen to the suspense or thriller movie soundtrack The Situation Room always has playing in the background. Since when does news have soundtracks?

The US Admin has been using the MSM to sell the war and to justify the fake reasons they went to war. We must stay the course and all the BS... And the revenue hungry MSM just gobbled it up, packaged it and sold it to the audience.

Hey RJ,,,,#14,
You're right, mostly. The Media reports the news, the writers and producers put all this stupid shit on TV but it's the Mindless Mutha Fuckin Masses who ignore the news (partly ,who can blame them?)It's a toss up which is more fuckin aggraviting,,the 'W' show or all those Mindless freak shows (I don't even know the name of one of them) It all makes me wanna puke! It's the mindless pricks who watch this crap, not the media,or the writers and producers, THE AMERICAN FUCKIN PUBLIC!!!I used to believe that Chinese, Japanese, British tv was the ultimate LOW!! Not any more,and it's US that makes them go on!!! SHAME ON US!!! I watch the news and news shows and commentary ,,it's all there ,all of the time if you want it, But if you'd rather watch some Jerk-off take it in the ass with a fisfull of earthworms that's not the Media,,,that's you baby!!!

RJ,
Sorry man, I didn't mean to go personal on ya, you hit a sore spot with that mindless tv shit11 Where the fuck R all the so-called censors when you really need them?
3 seconds of JJs tit and all hell broke loose,and I still haven't seen the goddam thing!

3 seconds of JJs tit and all hell broke loose,and I still haven't seen the goddam thing!

You didn't miss much; it looks just like the other one.

Dave...maybe you are right....maybe it is just a ploy by Bush to fool the American public and boost his ratings....remember it was very successful when Clinton..."the great stain maker" was testifying about lying under oath when he bombed the aspirin and powdered milk factory...thank god he did that...the world is such a safer place...

By the way, what the Iraqis are interested in isn't democracy, its simple things like electricity and water.

And cell phones and refigerators. All of which their own semi-peacetime bonus is bringing them, in spades!

Ask yourself why Zarqawi was turned in by an Iraqi...

So here's the pattern

- Criticize Junior -- Wingnuts deflect to Clinton -- Moonbats deflect to Reagean -- Wingnuts defelct to Carter.... yada yada yada.

JsutOneMan... deflection to Clinton isn't needed everytime JUNIOR is critized. Clinton hasn't been POTUS in 6 years. Junior has. Junior is the one screwing up right now.

Rove must be getting tired; BushCo & Jr. are as transparent as baggies. Next, Jr. is going to declare war on Canada as a source of "terrists" & the idiot MSM will just eat it up.

Yes, they'll probably say that a cell of the QLF is still active in Canada.

Hey Dave...its not clinton its your party thats the issue bill was just the guy running the joint for a few years....

The US could've captured or killed Zarqawi in Kurdistan,Iraq back in 2002. The Americans didn't want to kill him because he was going to be used to link Saddam with Al-Qaeda (Powell's UN speech 2/2003), although Saddam historically always jailed or killed extremists like Zarqawi.

Also, Saddam didn't have any control over Kurdistan, Iraq in 2002 and therefore isn't responsible for Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Again, American duplicity in Iraq shines again. How sad.

Just like the situation in Africa: it transpires that the US has been clandestinely supporting the illicit warlords - and as usual, it's starting to blow up in our faces. Why the hell doesn't the government ever learn anything from their repeated social studies experiments that tank every single time, so that we end up fighting the scumbags we so carefully set up, trained, and supported ... like Osama bin Laden, a former US protege, Saddam Hussein, ditto, and a host of others I could name but don't have time or space to do so?

Nancy... greed.

You hit that one on the head, Dave, ol' bean.

Nancy, do you have a source for this supposed US role in supporting African warlords? I knew European nations were doing it, but heretofore the US has not been implicated as far as I know.

dave

dave, google: us backs somalia warlords