OPINION

Ann Coulter: Conservative Lout

Written by Rick Moran
Published June 07, 2006

I have pretty much ignored Ann Coulter for the last year or so. As her celebrity has grown — actually since she appeared on the cover of Time Magazine — she has had to make ever more outrageous and off the wall statements in order to maintain her position as a "controversial" commentator. This has often placed her at odds with many of us who, while generally in agreement with much of her critique of American liberalism, nevertheless recoil in horror and disgust at her rhetoric.

She has descended into a black hole of necessity from which there is no escape, where she is forced to please her rabid base of red meat conservatives usually by going beyond the bounds of decency and proper public discourse in order to make a point that could have been made without resorting to the kind of hurtful, hateful, personal attacks that have become a hallmark of her war with liberals.

Make no mistake. Ann Coulter is a brutish lout, a conservative ogre who should be denied a public platform to spout what any conservative with an ounce of integrity and intellectual honesty should be able to see as unacceptable. To descend to the level of your opponents in order to criticize them is not an excuse. And for such a gifted wordsmith, Coulter does not have the excuse of ignorance.

I have been told not to take what she says so seriously, that this is her "shtick." I, like the Queen of England, am not amused. Neither I think, are the 9/11 widows who are using their position as victims of that tragedy to try and influence the public debate over what to do about the War on Terror and domestic security. We may violently disagree with their politics. We may even scorn their portrayal by liberals as unbiased observers with some kind of moral authority that immunizes them from criticism. But as Coulter proved on the Today Show in an interview with Matt Lauer, this kind of rhetoric is uncalled for and wildly inaccurate to boot:

LAUER: On the 9-11 widows, and in particular a group that had been critical of the administration:

COULTER: "These self-obsessed women seem genuinely unaware that 9-11 was an attack on our nation and acted like as if the terrorist attack only happened to them. They believe the entire country was required to marinate in their exquisite personal agony. Apparently, denouncing Bush was part of the closure process."

Mr. Lauer then quotes from Coulter's new book Godless: The Church of Liberalism.

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#1 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:01PM — Nik [URL]

If we all just ignore her, she'll go away.

#2 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:23PM — Chris Evans [URL]

This woman is disgusting.

I'm glad Matt Lauer kicked handed her her ass like Katie Couric did.

#3 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:30PM — Michael J. West [URL]

Her fifteen minutes are over. She might as well move out of the way for the heir-apparent brutish conservative lout, Michelle Malkin.

#4 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:43PM — Michael J. West [URL]

A blogger named Peter Daou says that Lauer lost the argument with Coulter and did it by not focusing in on her words. Says he could have easily won it by saying this:

"There are two possible explanations for your statement. Either you believe it, in which case you're deranged. You don't believe it but said it for shock value, in which case you don't belong within a thousand miles of this network. Choose one."

#5 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:45PM — Rick Moran [URL]

The difference between Coulter and Malkin is night and day.

Malkin is tough on the left - on their ideas. And I have never seen such an outpouring of personal antagonism as the left exhibits toward her. The unspeakable epithets thrown her way by supposedly respected and popular liberal bloggers is so far beyond the pale that it truly begs the question as to whether they hate Michelle for her ideas or whether they hate her because she is a "race traitor" - a Filipino woman who happens to be a conservative.

Unspeakable, nauseating remarks of a highly personal and racial nature are the hallmark of leftist criticism of Malkin. It's sickening and undeserved.

#6 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:56PM — tommyd

MAnn Coulter is no conservative. She's a piece of shit. Malkin is another dirtbag. Preaching hatred amongst Americans, since many ignorant idiotic Americans buy into this "patriotic" blather.

These sick and deranged women call for killing as many foreigners as possible and then claiming "that's war", yet MAnn Coulter never found the motivation to go and see what war actually looks, feels, and smells like. MAnn also shrieks that anyone who disagrees with War, Neoconservatism, and Dubya Bush are "traitors".

Well, the truth is that MAnn Coulter and her ilk are actually the traitors to America and a huge barrier towards addressing and solving the many problems facing America.

#7 — June 7, 2006 @ 14:59PM — zingzing

rick--you have a link to any racist remarks about her?

#8 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:02PM — Dave (aka Jeliel³) [URL]

I feel better knowing that some cons are not sidding with The Freak. Phew!

#9 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:06PM — Michael J. West [URL]

Rick, I've not made any highly personal or racial remarks against Malkin. Not on this thead or anywhere else, ever.

That said, I consider her writing, like Coulter's, to be dishonest and frequently provocative only for the sake of provocation. I don't believe she's gone as far and as outrageous as Coulter has, but nor do I believe you have to go as far as Coulter in order to be considered dishonest and extreme.

#10 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:15PM — zingzing

um, malkin's second book is called "In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror." she says that interning the japanese was a good thing, and only says that to justify dispicable treatment of muslims and others. she's a whacko.

#11 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:34PM — Aaron Fleming [URL]

The hilarious barbie doll of the extreme right; not to be taken seriously.

But yeh I echo Dave's remarks that it's nice to see a conservative treating her commentary as the horrible nonsense it really is.

#12 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:35PM — Zack

Only thing she's concerned with is how to sell more of her piece of crap book. More people talk about what she has done good or bad, she achieves her goal.

I feel sorry for her not being able to feel compassion. Her lack of most fundamental human emotion.

#13 — June 7, 2006 @ 15:52PM — Dawn

Did you just now figure out she was cruel, heartless, psychotic bitch? Sheesh, I thought that was like, common knowledge.

Now, can you please explain Rush Limbaugh?

#14 — June 7, 2006 @ 16:02PM — Ron Olivier

No apology is needed. Ann said what a lot of people are thinking but afraid to say, which is her point. Everyone has to accept these women's views just because they are widows. If they choose to use their husbands deaths to criticize foriegn policy, goverment officials and get to instruct congress on what to do, I have every right to call them on it. These were 4 woman out of thousands who lost people and only 4 who felt they had speical rights.

#15 — June 7, 2006 @ 16:09PM — zingzing

and they have a right to use their husband's deaths to criticize our government. it's a people's government. you have a right to call them on it, and i have a right to say you're being just a tad unamerican. she can criticize them without being so damn mean about it. it's like walking up to a grieving daughter or son at their mother's funeral and saying, "bah, she was a bitch anyway." it's heartless.

#16 — June 7, 2006 @ 16:17PM — Ron Olivier

They have right to criticize whom ever they choose. I didn't hear any boo hooing with their insults and accusations towards goverment officials. Why? You can't criticize widows. I didn't also hear any outrage when Cindy Sheehan called the president a murderer. That also is heartless.

#17 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:02PM — gancom

Coulter is in it for the money, she found a niche and once that money rolls in it's hard to change her formula. She has begun to dig a big hole that she can't and will never be able to climb out of.

#18 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:07PM — Sphinx [URL]

This so-called conservative writer is a perfect example with what is wrong with America. Few things are more "Godless" than a skanky psycho making a few bucks on the backs of tragedy victims? Looks like somebody needs to lay down the crack pipe or, at least, use it for another purpose.

#19 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:11PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

Rick, nice to see someone else who can tell the difference between Coulter and Malkin. Coulter is all about her pit bull, pull-no-punches personna and to hell with truth or reason or politeness. Malkin is ascerbic and certainly relentless, but she deals in facts and fairly reasonable analysis, even if a lot on the left disagree with her.

People on both left and right hate Coulter because she's annoying and basically an evil bitch. The left hates Malkin because she's effective and hard to argue against - hell, they probably hate her more than Coulter because of that.

Dave

#20 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:23PM — Rene

I didn't write this but came accross it in another blog and it expresses exactly how I feel about conservatives:

I wish progressives would be more strategic about all this. Sure, Ann Coulter is beneath contempt. But, her rantings and ravings are exactly what the American people need to see to get a good idea of what the Republican Party really thinks. The more it is exposed in the mainstream media, the better off Democrats are.

The strategic Republicans are more likely than not having fits right now about how to get her back to the Hannity and Colmes sideshow, and similar fare. They do not want her to be so blatant and open about the thought processes of the American Right. The reason? They want the soft sell. They want to control the PR message, and the spin. When Coulter is on the rampage, she turns off viewers by the thousands, who are revolted by her image, the hate and lunacy that emit from her, and the aftertaste, which is as unpleasant as that encountered when vomiting up one's own bile.

So, let her carry on, and be grateful that she is doing a much better job of turning moderate, swing voters into sure Democratic votes this November.
By: jurismark on June 06, 2006 at 07:37pm

#21 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:24PM — Ray Ellis [URL]

Ann Coulter has no POVor intelligence. She's from that Morton Downey school of shock without substance.
Matt Lauer, though hardly a benchmark of journalism, nailed her on the Today segment--or rather, his cameraman did.
Her body language betrayed her as having not one cincere bone in her body.

#22 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:32PM — romulus

ann coulter tells it the way it is. the fact that she is upsetting so many liberals just proves how accurate her points are.

#23 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:35PM — Eric Berlin [URL]

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Coulter kept a copy of Mein Kampf under her pillow.

#24 — June 7, 2006 @ 17:47PM — Rick Moran [URL]

Zing Zing:

Take your pick of any link found hereon google. You'll see comments from Kos, Firedoglake, Crooks and Liars, Glen Greenwald, and a host of lefy bloggers that, if a conservative said something like this about a liberal, would be thrown in jail for hate speech.

#25 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:01PM — Rene

But conservatives to say stuff like that don't they Rick? Isn't that what this article is all about?

#26 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:23PM — DrPat [URL]

Many conservatives have expressed distaste for Ann Coulter's graceless style. (I can't listen to her for more than two minutes myself.)

There is, however, a difference between pointing out that some people are treading hard on their victimhood from 2001, as Coulter has done, and demonstrating in the face of fresh grief at a funeral.

#27 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:39PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

wish progressives would be more strategic about all this. Sure, Ann Coulter is beneath contempt. But, her rantings and ravings are exactly what the American people need to see to get a good idea of what the Republican Party really thinks. The more it is exposed in the mainstream media, the better off Democrats are

Except, of course, that most Republicans don't share her views in any but the most general ways, and we certainly don't agree with her rhetoric. There are a lot of us who think the democrats have been seduced to the dark side and become downright evil, but we're still willing to work with them and try to redeem them. Coulter isn't and while that's understandable, it's unpalatable.

Coulter's worldview is one of simplistic black and white and that's kind of appealing in a way. Democrats want to kill babies, take away our money and our rights, sacrifice our economy on the altar of political correctness and crackpot environmental schemes, take our property away, put the UN in charge of our government and flood the country with illegal aliens. That's not a very appealing picture, and if that's all you see and you've got the kind of evangelical personality Coulter does, you can come off as pretty strident.

Dave

#28 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:40PM — zingzing

rick... just show me some links about malkin, not general hate mail... i don't have time to look through all of these... why did you post a link leading to bon jovi hatemail? i don't get it. i'll look it up myself.

#29 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:44PM — zingzing

looked through a couple of links... nothing from any of those that you mention. how about a link to that?

...poor conservatives, they never say anything bad. don't you think you are exagerrating just a tad?

#30 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:44PM — Rick Moran [URL]

Here are a few AOL search results. All I had to do was google "Michelle Malkin, slut:"

#31 — June 7, 2006 @ 18:59PM — Matthew T. Sussman [URL]

She's a horrible hypocritical bitch slut whore with fake blond hair and stupid tramp loser hateful racist bigot man-hands stereotypical self-loathing foaming-at-the-mouth asinine nonsensical loony right-wing despicable soul ... but hey on this page I can buy her book with one click of the mouse!

#32 — June 7, 2006 @ 19:03PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

Malkin has cataloged some of her own amazing hatemail from left-wing racists and bigots. Check out this page:

You are a fucking slanty-eyed cunt, etc.

And do a search for Malkin in combinations with words like whore, slut, bitch, cunt, gook, slant and chink. Great way to find links to left-wing websites.

Dave

#33 — June 7, 2006 @ 19:11PM — Michie44

I am appauled by her comments.
She looks like a Hooker on the cover first of all. And second of all we now know she is UNAMERICAN!
Anyone who critisizes or attacks The Widows, Wives, Mothers, Fathers, Children or any survivor of the Sept 11th attacks needs to be flogged, then tarrred and feathered.

Just because she does not agree with these women or their views it does not give her the right for her to put it in her book in such a vicous hateful way.
For all to read and to go down in history.

It says in the Bible, Thou shall not judge, lest ye be judged.

Who is GODLESS NOW MS COULTER????
You apparently think it is your God Given right to judge whom ever you please.

#34 — June 7, 2006 @ 19:34PM — zingzing

dave--hrm. i didn't take much time to read that, and i can't pick out kos commenters. maybe you'd like to help? looked at your's as well rick... couldn't find any bloggers... maybe just some ya-hoos.

show me something worth looking at.

#35 — June 7, 2006 @ 19:37PM — Baronius

I'm not Ann Coulter's biggest fan, but she is an extraordinary strategist. She accuses the press of giving the 9/11 widows a free pass. Then she insults them horribly. Sure enough, the press responds by saying "how dare you criticize them; they're widows", thus proving her point.

Most conservatives I know flinch when they read Coulter, but they do read her. You've got to. She's like some crazed junkyard dog. You know that sooner or later you're going to have to put her down, but in the meantime, no one's breaking into your yard.

#36 — June 7, 2006 @ 19:49PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

Zing, I had an interesting experience at Kos. There are comments there about Malkin which are full of racist epithets and other rudeness, but interestingly most of them seem to have been deleted, so what you find is the comments that reference the comments that were deleted. The Malkin link I gave actually has a nice comment from her for Kos relating to the people who have defended her and tried to shout down some of the bigots who have since been deleted.

Dave

#37 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:02PM — Larry A. Sakin [URL]

Truth be told, I don't like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Cindy Sheehan, or anyone else who pretends to be the conscience of political or moral movements.

Some liberals may indeed by "Godless", but Coulter et. al. are "Classless" in that they all distort reality by running it through their pre-conceived notions. Then, they misrepresent their personal opinions as being an amalgamation of the views "their people" hold.

#38 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:04PM — Clavos

Believe it or not, even O'Reilly is criticizing her on his show right this moment; he's speaking of her attacks on the 9/11 widows.

#39 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:07PM — Donna PA. Firemans wife


I am asshamed to say that I live in the same country as this woman.
I am appauled that such a horrible thing could come out of an American's mouth.

I am a cristian and I am also married to a firefighter/corrections officer.
ANd I pray everyday that nothing happens to him.
I am to young to be a widow.
9/11 hit home for us as well as the rest of the country.being married to a firefighter as well as a CO.
I worry about him all the time.Those men,women and chrildren deserve everything that they can get. ALL I know is that you neeed a lot of prayer lady.because you are NOT going where the christian are going.

Just remember Ann an eye for eye.
You are not dead yet and this could happen to you, you may loose a loved opne someday.
Than we all want to know if you are standing alone.
Ask your self will He turn his back on me like I did him.
I don't think so.

#40 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:12PM — Clavos

Whoops, looks like another organized campaign starting--#s 33 & 39 both misspelled "appalled" the exact same way.

#41 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:20PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

And I thought you had a knack for this, Clavos. It's actually two different people who both like that alternate spelling with possible biblical implications. Isn't that what Saul of Tarsus was when he saw Jesus on the Damascus road - apauled?

Dave

#42 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:23PM — Clavos

Sorry about that. BTW you do know what they say about puns, don't you Dave?

#43 — June 7, 2006 @ 20:35PM — Ray Ellis [URL]
















just when I begin to think that Dave and I share some common views--besides our fondness for goatees--he has to throw in the jab at dems.
Guess I'm just doomed to be one of them godless liberals, after all.

#44 — June 7, 2006 @ 21:02PM — ed simmons

I love Ann and Michelle. They make all my fantasies of having a three way with two sorta ugly right wing hatefilled bitches come true. They obviously both need a real good bangin' to set their backward minds straight. Maybe a good money shot in the eye might help. But who to cum on first....hmmmmm....??

#45 — June 7, 2006 @ 21:29PM — Clavos

Intelligent!!

#46 — June 7, 2006 @ 21:34PM — JP [URL]

Malkin I can handle, she makes a good point but isn't over-the-top like Cun*ler. Ann is truly a "shallow, bitter, bitch of a woman" and Sean Hannity should be ashamed of himself for dedicating a show to her drivel.

May they both spend eternity together in Hell, Michigan.

#47 — June 7, 2006 @ 21:51PM — friendlier

I love the comment above that compares Ms. Coulter to Morton Downey! Exactly. And where is he now?

Oh.

#48 — June 7, 2006 @ 22:12PM — William Dufkin

It's ironic that most of you are making her point exactly...not all Americans can get away with free speech. I see lots of really ignorant and profane statements about two woman speaking what to them is truth. Like the Dixie Chicks of yesteryear if you don't like what you hear don't buy the product. If they go away then you win. If they don't go away, well then, I guess you don't win.

#49 — June 7, 2006 @ 22:18PM — Ray Ellis [URL]

If they go away then you win. If they don't go away, well then, I guess you don't win.

Roaches don't go away--they multiply in the dark. It's only when you turn on the lights that they run willy-nilly away.

#50 — June 7, 2006 @ 22:43PM — Arch Conservative

MMMMM ok...

Even I find Coulter frequently, shrill, callous and unappealing.

However if one were to ignore all the personal remarks she made about these widows.... Coulter does have a valid point...and that is that the left uses victims to adavnce thier agenda and then attacks anyone who has an opinion of anything one of thier victim spokespeople has said.


These women lost their husbands..........yes this is a horrible thing.....but does this mean that they have the right to do or say anything they want and no other american citizen is allowed to express thier opinions on anything done or said? does having a love one killed in combat automatically make you holier than thou and beyond all reproach of the citizens of an entire nation? odes it automatically negate everyone else's free speech?

I guess it's fine and dandy for cindy sheehan to publicly call islamic terrorists freedom fighters because her son died in iraq right? i didn't lose a loved one so I'm not allowed to have an opinion or express and opinion on sheehan saying this right?

I wonder how the left would feel if the gop were trotting out mothers/wives of dead soldiers who were supporting Bush and the war and then viciously attacking anyone who disagreed with anything they said.....



#51 — June 7, 2006 @ 22:55PM — Arch Conservative

I wonder how a post that called Hillary Clinton all of the hateful things Malkin and Coulter have just been called would be tolerated on BC.

#52 — June 7, 2006 @ 23:27PM — Sick of it All

"I wonder how the left would feel if the gop were trotting out mothers/wives of dead soldiers who were supporting Bush and the war and then viciously attacking anyone who disagreed with anything they said....."

It's funny, Arch - but it seems like the "right" does that whenever they are able...

I think the reason we don't see it that often is that they can't actually find many.

The real problem with folks like Ms. Coulter is they prey upon base emotions of regular folks - especially "liberals". This in turn has the effect of skewing the average Americans' perceptions of what is really going on in this country, which is the co-opting of democracy by the corporate junta - citizens are regularly referred to as "consumers" by elected officials - Bush telling America the best thing they can do after 9/11 is to go out and spend money.

How can we reconcile this moral/intellectual deficit? Get back to basics - states' rights, stop attempting to legislate morality (right and left alike), dissallow career politicians - these people need to represent us. They cannot do this when they do not understand what we go through every single day.

The power lies with the people - all Americans - not just those who subscribe to Ms. Coulter's vitriol.

#53 — June 7, 2006 @ 23:28PM — Erik

Arch the whole point is coulter's argument is a big straw man. She disproves her own argument by criticizing these supposedly "infallible" figures so virulently on the highest rated morning show in the country. duh. i think Lauer tried to get her to acknowledge that and she said he was getting "testy."

#54 — June 8, 2006 @ 01:22AM — RogerMDillon

"frequently, shrill, callous and unappealing."

luckily there's no conservatives like that around here, arch.

#55 — June 8, 2006 @ 01:33AM — JR

Arch Conservative: I wonder how a post that called Hillary Clinton all of the hateful things Malkin and Coulter have just been called would be tolerated on BC.

An RJ Elliot post usually catches some flak, but nobody censors him.

#56 — June 8, 2006 @ 02:25AM — Dave Nalle

just when I begin to think that Dave and I share some common views--besides our fondness for goatees--he has to throw in the jab at dems.
Guess I'm just doomed to be one of them godless liberals, after all.


Anyone who agrees with me all the time is either lying, confused, or transcendently enlightened.

As for jabbing at the left, it's inevitable. But don't mistake my description of what conservatives believe of the left with what I actually believe myself.

And there's nothing wrong with being a Liberal. It's a fine thing. Being a leftist is entirely different.

Dave

#57 — June 8, 2006 @ 03:18AM — Uncle Reamher

Coldhearted Coulter needs to get laid more often ...

#58 — June 8, 2006 @ 04:42AM — Christopher Rose [URL]

Archie, if you have (or start) a blog of your own and were brave enough to step out from behind your veil of anonymity, you could apply to join Blogcritics and, if accepted, write whatever articles you like.

The articles here are not censored unless there is a solid legal reason to do so and then reluctantly.

The Comments Policy is there to promote debate and avoid the kind of childish name-calling of other commenters with whom one disagrees.

You ought to consider the idea seriously; you have some interesting points to make and it would add more flavour to the BC stew to have your voice added to the mix. You'll find it takes a different kind of energy to be the one making the points rather than taking potshots at others...

#59 — June 8, 2006 @ 06:39AM — Arch Conservative

I don't understand why everyone is kissing Matt Lauer's ass. He's just another MSM douchebag. A few months back when he was in iraq he asked a soldier what he thought of Iraq and Matt actually look stunned when the soldier said he believed we were doing the right thing and that a lot of good things were being done there. I guess matt shouldn't ask anymore questions of people when doesn't already know the answer he will get. Maybe nesxt time the today show wants to get a cookie cutter "America is a big bad imperial bully and what the fuck are we doing here" response they ought ot dress george clooney up in a soldier's uniform and ask him some questions.



Who are the victimized spokespeople that the right has trotted out sick of it? I mean the left tried to turn Cindy Sheehan into some kind of antiwar icon but she couldn't keep her big piehole shut for two seconds and stop saying things like the terrorists in Iraw were actually freedom fighters and well here's a breif list of quotes:


"You're taking away our freedoms. The Iraqi people aren't freer, they're much worse off than before you meddled in their country."


"You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine"

"We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy ... not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our Middle-Eastern foreign polic"


"All you have to do is look at New Orleans to see how vulnerable he's made our country."

"I'm just so honored that the universe chose me to be the spark that has set off a raging inferno."


"We really need to stop the imperialist tendencies of countries like the United States and Great Britain."


"If he thinks that it's so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go this war. They need to fight."


Ummm yeah..... why didn't anyone want to send Chelsea Clinton to Bosnia?


Bitch all you want about ann coulter but the far left is no better considering they have a practice of preying upon the grief of people who have lost loved ones in iraq to adavance their agenda. Not to mention you fucking hypocrites lap up every lie that Michael Moore tells in his little anthologies of mistruths and mischaracterizations and then accuse the right of being war profiteers.

#60 — June 8, 2006 @ 06:56AM — Alexandre

i believe Ms. Coulter's remarks to be truthful that's why it hurts so much. as for the 4 widows, if they want to inject themselves in the public debate, then do not assume that they would be forever immune from criticisms just because they lost their loved ones. as far as i can recall there well amost 3,000 men and women who perished that day. why do we not hear from the others???

#61 — June 8, 2006 @ 07:10AM — Andy Marsh [URL]

It is amusing to see how fired up the liberals get over the words of a skinny white chick! I have one of her books right here on my desk...I'll sell it to you for the used book price if you like!

She may be a bitter bitch...but she makes me laugh...and watching people get all fired up over her makes me laugh even more!

#62 — June 8, 2006 @ 07:32AM — JP [URL]

Arch, I hate to point this out, but one of your Sheehan examples is correct to a word--"We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy ... not for the real reason, because the Arab Muslims who attacked us hate our Middle-Eastern foreign policy."

That "9/11 changed everything" is a deception you've swallowed hook, line and sinker. Read what Bin Laden writes just as one example, and what the Pres of Iran wrote to Bush. We like to paint them as "incoherent" and wackos, but they're actually quite logical and precise about it.

The others have varying degres of truth.

#63 — June 8, 2006 @ 07:37AM — Arch Conservative

They're all direct quotes.

#64 — June 8, 2006 @ 07:38AM — JP [URL]

I also think it's quite funny that conservatives love to paint all left-wing or liberal commentators--obnoxious like Michael Moore or not--as larger-than-life caricatures, but as soon as a liberal points out the hypocricy of the commentators on the right and starts to paint them the same way, they get defensive.

#65 — June 8, 2006 @ 08:43AM — Rick Moran [URL]

Read what Bin Laden writes just as one example, and what the Pres of Iran wrote to Bush

Do you often agree with people with a worldview any 3 year old westerner would laugh at?

Those men have lived unbelievably sheltered lives in addition to having such a warped sense of reality, twisted by their hate and bloodlust, that to even mention them as making an iota of sense in any way, shape, or form brands you as a myopic fool.

Un. Be. Lievable.

#66 — June 8, 2006 @ 08:53AM — Ruvy in Jerusalem

Dave Nalle writes,

"... there's nothing wrong with being a Liberal. It's a fine thing. Being a leftist is entirely different."

Just when you think you know a guy....

#67 — June 8, 2006 @ 09:06AM — esmense

Coulter is a media celebrity (always "fun" to have on, as Lauter says) who gained and maintains her celebrity, and earns her fortune, by relentlessly exploiting sex appeal and controversy. In our media-dominated culture there's nothing especially unusual about that -- Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith's careers and fortunes, and those of many others, are based in a similar media dynamic. The celebrity of Hilton and Smith is built on their indulgence in outrageous behavior and intentional creation of an outrageous persona, as is Coulter's. The only real difference is that celebrities like Hilton and Smith use their personalities and personal lives as mediums for their outrageousness, while Coulter uses her personality and our nation's shared political life. Also, while they are simply interested in gaining (profitable) attention by being outrageous in public, Coulter is also dedicated to creating and feeding public outrage.

The question Coulter's attack on the 911 widows raises for me is this; if the "911 widows" -- women who (unlike Coulter, sought out the responsibilities of marriage and motherhood)are now coping with the aftermath of a horrific event that tore their families, and private lives, tragically asunder -- don't have a right (perhaps even an obligation) to speak openly, and politically, about the public issues arising from that life altering event, then on what basis does Coulter (or any of us) have that right?

#68 — June 8, 2006 @ 11:48AM — RogerMDillon

"Who are the victimized spokespeople that the right has trotted out?"

Terri Schiavo's parents.

"Those men have lived unbelievably sheltered lives in addition to having such a warped sense of reality,"

I wasn't clear. Were you including Bush in "those men"?

#69 — June 8, 2006 @ 11:56AM — Jeff in Philly

On the whole I agree with your comments, with the exception of:

"And the networks who use Coulter as some kind of "spokesman" for the right should be told in no uncertain terms by as many of us as possible that she doesn't speak for any conservatives that we want to be associated with."

You may feel that she doesn't speak for you Rick, but she certainly speaks for a large number of conservatives. She's hitting #1 on the bestseller lists and the non-MSM (Fox, most of the talk radio pundits) have her on as often as she would like. Why would any MSM journalist have to put in a disclaimer that she is not representative of mainstream conservative thought.

As a matter of fact, you don't really disagree with her main point. You just don't like the wrapper she put it in.

#70 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:01PM — Rick Moran [URL]

Portraying themselves as "non-partisan" advocates during the 9/11 Commission hearings and then showing up at John Kerry campaign events smacks of a gigantic hypocrisy that is fair game anytime, anywhere, and under any circumstances.

And I just said it without referring to them as "grieving widows" or inferring that they "enjoy their husbands deaths."

That's the point, isn't it? I disagree with those ladies and think they are hypocritical. But I don't have to get personal and use hateful language to get the point across.

#71 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:01PM — Silas Kain [URL]

Ann Coulter. The genetically engineered child of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. She has the balls of Falwell and the insight of Robertson. She is the ultimate argument for male homosexuality.

#72 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:06PM — Lumpy [URL]

I heard coukte®on the radio and the argument she is getting all this flack for is actually halfway reasonable. All she is saying is that having your husband killed on 9/11 doestn't magically make you a foreign policy expert.

#73 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:20PM — Silas Kain [URL]

I agree, Lumpy. She's got a point. That being said, she still comes across as a man-hating, liberal bashing shrew.

Those with political agendas will use whatever tools are at their disposal to propagate their respective cause. These widows can just stand in line with all the other 'victims' of political rhetorical warfare. The families of those slaughtered on 9-11 deserve answers. We, as a people, owe that much to them. The blame doesn't rest completely on this Administration and certainly must be shared by the folks in Congress.

#74 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:45PM — Ron

You guys need to get over yourselves. I don't hear any outrage when Rumsfeld and Bush are called terrorists, murderers and commit acts of tourter. You are the same people that say Bush planned 9/11, but that is ok to say. you guy are hypocrites. What Ann said is correct and I totally agree with her.

#75 — June 8, 2006 @ 12:55PM — Silas Kain [URL]

Actually, Ron, don't put words (or anything else for that matter) in my mouth. I don't think Bush and his cronies are terrorists. I also support many of the issues he does. Finally, I've said it many times in the past - George W. Bush really doesn't give a rat's ass about many of the causes near and dear to the far right. He just panders to them because they are such an easy bunch to get money from. And they call us Liberals blind spenders! Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#76 — June 8, 2006 @ 13:07PM — Ron

Actually Silas, Bush is someone who believes in what he is doing compared to the liberals who need to take a poll (aka. Hillary, Kerry) before they can decide where to stand on a subject. I respect a person who will stand for what he believes even if it is not popular. In regards to spending, I don't see any Democrats turning the money down. I do agree that the spending is bad, but we have the lowest unemployment rate in years and the GDP is higher than during the Cinton years.

#77 — June 8, 2006 @ 13:27PM — Paul Roy

I love Ann Coulter about as much as I hate political correctness. Since when are certain people "off-limits" from criticism, even if it is vicious criticism? Just look at the viciousness of her critics. Should we not have criticized all of the pedophile priests because they were priests? Even though I only agree with her about 50/50, it is refreshing to hear someone say what they mean and mean what they say - and she's a damn funny writer too, unless you are her liberal target. You cannot compare Michelle Malkin to Coulter either. Dave Nalle was right on in comment #19.

#78 — June 8, 2006 @ 13:30PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

To paraphrase Letterman last night, "she's blond and single, maybe we can fix 'er up with O.J."

#79 — June 8, 2006 @ 13:31PM — Silas Kain [URL]

Yeah, OK, Ron. Bush isn't THAT much of a believer. He's NOT his father's son. In my view, George H.W. Bush is a man of character, faith and principle. His son, on the other hand, takes a page out of his Mom's playbook. He's spiteful, mean and will go to any length to have his way.

#80 — June 8, 2006 @ 13:47PM — Ron

Sials, I guess we can aggree that Bush will go to any legal lengths to keep us safe. I like that in a President.

#81 — June 8, 2006 @ 14:34PM — Arch Conservative

Although I don't find ann coulter attractive at all I'd still rather bang her than Hillary Clinton.


I have a proposal for the moonbats......we'll make coulter go away if you mkae hillary go away.

#82 — June 8, 2006 @ 15:26PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

Thank God ArchBoingBat doesn't have an obsession with Marilyn Monroe. Archie you're so cute, but if she doesn't get elected, what will you rant about?

#83 — June 8, 2006 @ 15:27PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

Out of Curiosity ArchBoingBat, have you really deluded yourself into thinking you have that power???

#84 — June 8, 2006 @ 15:42PM — Ray Ellis [URL]

That last comment illustrated how pesumptious and devoid of logic you are, Arch. Do you really think in your most fevered dreams you'd have a shot at Ann or Hilary, either one?

#85 — June 8, 2006 @ 15:45PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

I credit both of them with more sense, certainly better taste-despite their politics!

#86 — June 8, 2006 @ 16:19PM — Arch Conservative

You mean in my most fevered nightmares.

The fact is neither of them would ever have ahsot with me.

#87 — June 8, 2006 @ 16:35PM — Ray Ellis [URL]

depens if either of them were packin', I'd say...

#88 — June 8, 2006 @ 16:52PM — Arch Conservative

Well I don't think Ann Coulter would want to shoot me because I share most of her views and Hillary never does the dirty work herslf? You think she actually pulled the trigger on the gun that killed Vince Foster? She had someone else do it.

#89 — June 8, 2006 @ 17:29PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

ArchBoingBat telling a lie repeatedly isn't going to make it fucking true [Edited]. Foster was not killed by anyone [Edited] but himself

Sooner or later someone's going to kidnap you naked, put duct tape over your mouth, and tie you to a bed face down in a gay bath house. Then every time you say something stupid or insensitive they'll use up another tube uf lube.

You'll be pregnent by the 11:00 news tonight!!!

#90 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:14PM — Arch Conservative

"ArchBoingBat telling a lie repeatedly isn't going to make it fucking true"

sort of like war based on lies?

#91 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:15PM — sr

Holy nukes Jet. What side of the bed did we awaken from. Thanks to you I wasted some CPT Morgan.

If my wife would let me, I would ask Ann Coulter to marry me. Cant wait to buy her book. She is beautiful, intelligent, rich and does not have pit bulls. Who could ask for anything more.

Noticed a little editing going on. What did I miss and who is BoingBat and why?

sr

#92 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:23PM — Arch Conservative

I'm boingbat and jet is moonbat and apprantly having homosexual fantasies about kidnapping and sodomizing me.

all jets are moonbats but not all moonbats are jets.

got it sr?

#93 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:25PM — Baronius

Arch, I don't think anyone's kissing up to Matt Lauer. (I hope not.) I finally saw footage of the interview, and it's sad. Lauer is so dim he can't even tell how badly he's losing.

I second the praise of the Morton Downey / Ann Coulter comparison. Although, maybe Downey is closer to Bill O'Reilly. All three of them play characters, but Coulter seems to believe what she's saying more than the other two.

#94 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:44PM — Andy Marsh [URL]

Man, I forgot about Morton Downey! Now that was entertainment!

#95 — June 8, 2006 @ 18:49PM — Ray Ellis [URL]

Thanks, Baronius and Andy-- now I realize I'm not the oldest man in the world after all

#96 — June 8, 2006 @ 20:10PM — sr

BoingBat, Jet and I dont always agree however he has been in my corner several times. I could be more conservative then you and usually agree with your comments. Jet is no moonbat, besides he has a humorist wit about him that I envy.

Baronius, Andy and Ray. Bet Im older. With age comes compassion. Thats why old men look stupid. Ann Coulter Im in love. Marry me.

sr

#97 — June 8, 2006 @ 20:19PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

Got to say I love #89. Only a gay Republican would have the balls to say something like that.

Dave

#98 — June 8, 2006 @ 20:34PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

Thanks Dave... I think!

#99 — June 8, 2006 @ 21:34PM — Arch Conservative

I agree with pretty much everything ann coulter says because it is true... but unlike me she lacks tact and civility.................. she can be quite vulgar and crass


she said that the left uses victims as spokespeople for political agendas so they can't be held responsible for thier own words because no one is allowed to express anything but sympathy and anyone who does otherwise is a horrible person...

this is true......

however she didnt have to say the war widows were enjoying thier husbands deaths and should pose for playboy



#100 — June 8, 2006 @ 21:39PM — Joey

Coulter, Clinton, Moore, Hannity, Borst (sp)...Limbaugh, at el...are all doing the same thing...

Laughing all the way to the bank.

Anybody buying into any of their drivel is contributing.

Sorry, but anyone buying into their drivel is also a sucker.

#101 — June 8, 2006 @ 21:43PM — Clavos

You forgot Franken and Stewart.

#102 — June 8, 2006 @ 22:01PM — sr

So what is truth and how do you know.

#103 — June 8, 2006 @ 22:25PM — Arch Conservative

what about michael savage? i find him to be in a class of his own and sometiems don't know what to make of him

#104 — June 8, 2006 @ 22:51PM — DazeyMai

Ms. Coulter is getting much more attention than she deserves. Oh well, she is doing a fair job of coming across as a sex symbol....maybe that will bring her the fame she so craves.

#105 — June 8, 2006 @ 23:20PM — sr

DazeyMai or is it Elly May Clampett, the dingbat on the Beverly Hillbillies TV show. Your comment would suggest the dingbat Elly May Clampett. Is papa Jed still around. Ms. Coulter will be my new bride cause she is one fine sex symbol. O YA. She done got some brains fersure unlike me cause I read Sears catologs in my out house.

#106 — June 9, 2006 @ 00:08AM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

God God, how old to you have to be to need to explain who Ellie May Clampet is? I'm goin out back to see if Jethro's sunnin himself out by the C-ment pond...

#107 — June 9, 2006 @ 00:45AM — sr

Jethro out their all right. He talking business with Mr. Milburn Drysdale and Miss Jane Hathaway be taken notes. Granny cooken up possem by C-ment pond. Elly May she out with de camels in barn. Lord Elly, that a 2 humper girl. Granny in on de fun now. You go Granny.

#108 — June 9, 2006 @ 01:36AM — Clavos

Jet, sr:

All right now, y'all boys quit drinkin' that 'shine an' go on to bed now, y'hear?

#109 — June 9, 2006 @ 02:50AM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

I would, but I can't sleep, my eyes hurt.

#110 — June 9, 2006 @ 10:23AM — Georgio

When Zagawie was killed yesterday Coulter lost the one man who was suited for her..can you imagine being married to that BITCH..

#111 — June 9, 2006 @ 10:33AM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

I still like Dave Letterman's idea of introducting her to O.J. better. She'd definately his type.

#112 — June 9, 2006 @ 10:59AM — DazeyMai

I think she would be happy spending a few years in a flea-infested cave with Osama and his children....with frequent visits from Saddam.

#113 — June 9, 2006 @ 11:58AM — Jake Reed

It is pathetic that she is considered an intellectual speaker for the Right. I equate her with those missing or abducted blondes we hear about on cable news. If she was not that interesting to look at, she would strictly be a side-lined freakshow, and her opinions would be taken less seriously.

Of course, one of the reasons she is so popular is because she is skinny, blonde and has a somewhat pretty face. Indeed. The Far Right props her up (Drudge, Hannity, Far Right College Groups, even Tucker Carlson), so that gives her the spawning forum to shove her hateful views out into our disposable culture. She also has that Connecticut, New Canaan-- elitism going for her, which annoys the crap out of a lot of people. Trust me, I know, I am from that area. A friend of mine says he knew her brother back in the 1970s. And he recalls her vividly. Just your typical quiet kid who comes from your typical closed in area of wealth. Think of the movie "The Ice Storm." She represents someone who got good breaks, can write reasonable well, was influenced by her father's politics, and saw poor people as lazy and lesser than her class. That she can't fathom that there is a perpetual poor out there, people who didn't get eduated in the best schools or have the life that she had shows me how cruel her kind can be. Her definitions of liberalism are frankly insulting to me. I hate to break it to her, but liberalism isn't socialism. Society, according to her, is corrupted. Bull! People like her are corrupt. Throw her book in the trash where is belongs and read a real book such as The Essential Galbraith. It may open your mind a little bit. I challenge you--the guy who is reading this post from the Far Right to read it.

Out of that blonde body she says, "What some conservatives wish they could say." Is she right for doing this? It is a free country, I guess. The difference between her and the Dixie chicks is that they apologized for using a poor choice words. Ms. Coulter will never have to apologize, which tells me there is more of a right wing slant in the media than we all want to admit. I'm amazed she gets away with saying the things that other people might get blacklisted for.

I believe her cult will be less powerful after she reaches a certain age when miniskirts will make her look uncouth. I also believe that she never debates any of the notable talking heads from the left for cowardly reasons.

Also: She loves to play the abortion card for all its worth. This plays well with the philistines and the religious right. I wonder if she is okay with condoms or the after-morning pill. I bet she is. I can see her winking at that question. So if the condom breaks that is it, huh? Nine months! I truly wonder what her views are on this topic. I also wonder if she reads the Bible. Another I doubt it. I know she jokes about picking up guys and having flings. Is that okay with the family value crowd? The hypocrisy is brilliant.

#114 — June 9, 2006 @ 13:55PM — Beth

Does the Parable of Lazarus & the Rich Man Prove Some Will Suffer in Hell?

"There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and
fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full
of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which
fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.


"So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's
bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades,
he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Then
he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he
may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented
in this flame.'


"But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good
things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are
tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf
fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those
from there pass to us.'


"Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my
father's house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest
they also come to this place of torment.'


"Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'
"And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they
will repent.'


"But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will
they be persuaded though one rise from the dead' " (Luke 16:19-31).


Allegorical account


A consideration of the account of Lazarus and the rich man in view of other
scriptures on the subject of death and the resurrection makes it clear that
this is an allegory used to teach important spiritual lessons. It is not
intended to be understood literally, nor is this a description of the actual
events that take place after death or at the resurrection.


The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia discusses the contemporary
background of the allegory. "This parable follows a story common in Egyptian
and Jewish thought, in which the wicked rich and the pious poor have their
positions reversed in the afterlife. It is told from the point of view of the
rich man . . . who speaks with Abraham from his place of torment . . .


"Although this parable does not intend to give a topographical study of the
abode of the dead, it is built upon and thus confirms common Jewish thought . .
. In the Jewish conception of Hades . . . the good and the wicked could see
each other but were separated by a great impassable chasm. Across this chasm
the rich man called to Abraham, begging that Lazarus be sent to comfort him.
When he was assured of the impossibility of this, he begged that Lazarus be
sent back to warn his brothers of their possible fate. Abraham said that if
they would not believe Moses, they would not believe one returned from the
dead.


"The parable . . . warns the rich that their possessions do not guarantee their
future state. The parable was apparently directed toward Sadducean satisfaction
with this life, based upon the belief that there would be no life beyond. Thus,
Abraham said that even one from the dead would not convince the living to
repent" (Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, 1986, Vol. III, p. 94).


Spiritual lesson


Jesus took a familiar story of the day and pointed out a spiritual lesson to
those of His day who identified with the law but did not keep it. The primary
lesson of this account is simple: Eternal consequences depend on the choices we
make and the kind of people we are.


Lazarus is described as having an intimate relationship with Abraham (verse
22); that is, he is an heir to God's Kingdom through the promises made to
Abraham. We know from other scriptures that Abraham has not yet received his
promised inheritance (Acts 7:2-5; Hebrews 11:8-13). Therefore, neither could
Lazarus have yet received any eternal inheritance.


The rich man is said to have died. When resurrected from his grave (hades), the
rich man learns that his fate is his destruction by fire. The torment he
experiences (verses 23-24) is his mental anguish. He has lost everything by
rejecting Jesus Christ and refusing to obey God. The "great gulf" between them
(verse 26) represents their different rewards. Lazarus will receive eternal
life, and the rich man will be destroyed in the lake of fire.


Since there is no consciousness in death, the rich man would have had no
awareness of the passing of time since his demise. The conversation with
Abraham is not literal. It is a parable that allegorically teaches an important
lesson. The rich man, facing eternal destruction because of the choices he made
in life, urgently requests that at least his family members be warned so they
can avoid his terrible fate (verses 27-31).


But the conclusion of the parable is that ample warning about the consequences
of sin is already given in God's Word. Those who won't listen to that warning
would not listen even to someone who rose from the dead. Only a short time
after Jesus spoke this parable He was crucified and then rose from the dead.
Those who refused to be warned by Moses and the prophets still refused to
believe, even after Christ's resurrection.


This parable teaches us that choosing to reject God's instruction will bring
disastrous consequences- everlasting destruction in a lake of fire.


A few words on the term BOSOM is needed to top this off.


The Bible uses the word BOSOM different than most seems to (ISA. 40:11) but
there is no doubt what it relay means. Bible students relay have to understand
things when the term BOSOM is used (John 1:18), it means Jesus was enjoying the
Fathers blessings and close relationship.


Moses carried the children of Israel in his bosom (Num.11:12) so do you not see
some of what it means. To be in ones BOSOM is to have that ones love and
protection, and share his blessings and inheritance Matt.5:5).


#115 — June 10, 2006 @ 03:09AM — Gina Weiss [URL]

Ann said what a lot of people are thinking but afraid to say,

ann coulter tells it the way it is. the fact that she is upsetting so many liberals just proves how accurate her points are.

Touche'.

Anyone who critisizes or attacks The Widows, Wives, Mothers, Fathers, Children or any survivor of the Sept 11th attacks needs to be flogged, then tarrred and feathered.

Your kindness overwhelms me. And so much more than she gives?

So she's not politically correct...So be it. Give it up and get a grip. Her rights to say what she thinks are covered in the Constitution as well as yours. You don't like it because she does has clout and is being heard. I may not agree with what she says but as the saying goes "I will always defend her right to say it."

I am a cristian and I am also married to a firefighter/corrections officer.
ANd I pray everyday that nothing happens to him.
I am to young to be a widow.
9/11 hit home for us as well as the rest of the country.being married to a firefighter as well as a CO.
I worry about him all the time.Those men,women and chrildren deserve everything that they can get. ALL I know is that you neeed a lot of prayer lady.because you are NOT going where the christian are going.

Just remember Ann an eye for eye.
You are not dead yet and this could happen to you, you may loose a loved opne someday.
Than we all want to know if you are standing alone.
Ask your self will He turn his back on me like I did him.
I don't think so.


Statements like these help to spread hatred; fear mongering. What happened to the love, light, and joy of Jesus Christ?

#116 — June 10, 2006 @ 08:54AM — Silas Kain [URL]

What happened to the love, light, and joy of Jesus Christ?

Well, some guy fell off his horse on the road to Damascus and the next thing you know the religious version of Amway was founded. Then there was the Council of Nicea, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Reformation, etc. Christ came off the Cross in favor of all these others.

#117 — June 11, 2006 @ 15:01PM — Dave

This is simply unbelievable to me. I hear support for this scumbags attacks against the 9/11 widows for supposedly using thier status as victims to attempt to influence but not one of you has been honest enough to say republicans as a whole have exploited this tragedy for politcal gain and influence. The president has repeatedly used 9/11 family members while campaigning and the GOP has relentlessy flown the 9/11 banner for political means. I amazed we are getting terror alert updates like the run up to the last elections which even Tom Ridge has professed to the over use of. We need to meet somewherre in the middle folks 1/2 of the country continually hating the other 1/2 and vice versa will destroy our democracy with much more effiency than the damn terrorists could ever muster

#118 — June 11, 2006 @ 15:12PM — Clavos

We need to meet somewherre in the middle folks 1/2 of the country continually hating the other 1/2 and vice versa will destroy our democracy with much more effiency than the damn terrorists could ever muster

I agree, Dave. It is even arguably possible that this may have been one of the terrorist's goals when they planned the attack.

#119 — June 12, 2006 @ 11:14AM — Harek


Poem

There once was a Millionaire who didn't know what it felt like to have a heart
She lived to shower the world with her venom, somehow thinking she is making a valid point
She lived alone in a condo with lots of free time to think these things through
Something somehow got lost in that condo; perhaps her heart.

What she became--
Politically absent of all heart and all humanity
The closest thing that she had to humanity was her friendship with Hannity
Actually, I take that one back. That is more of a business relationship.
Her research was based on using the Internet; the Nexus to be sure

her research would be looked at skeptically by your average Columbia Political Science Professor, but to your average 100 K earner she is the gospel
Far be it for this Far Righty to use the New York Public Library, or consult any PHD scholars on her distorted polemics, naaa, to do that would be too damn hard and too damn decent
Her book is the worst kind of writing: cruel, misguided, full of distortions to fulfill her agenda, no nuance at all, and full of crap

Her crap and cruelty are right there:
"And by the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry and appear in Playboy."
Hey Bitch, I dare you to say that in front their children. Do it on live television.
Why don't you just grab the cheeks of one of kiddies and spit in his face. I am sure someone out there will think: She is making a good point. They'll say she has a right to speak her mind. Yes she does. She has a right. We all do. We all have a right to stand up for what we believe in.
But there is a higher right out there that is symbiotic with speaking your mind. Somehow, Ms. Coulter, you just don't get it. You would rather sell books and hurt people than to write a real conservative book.

You will never do it, You will keep writing books.
Why not? The pay is great! But eventually people catch on. You will say something that will push you back into the sidelines again...
By then you will have enough money to live a comfortable New York City lifestyle,
all alone in your condo called denial

#120 — June 12, 2006 @ 14:28PM — MCH

"Coulter, Clinton, Moore, Hannity, Borst (sp)...Limbaugh, at el...are all doing the same thing...
Laughing all the way to the bank.
Anybody buying into any of their drivel is contributing.
Sorry, but anyone buying into their drivel is also a sucker."
- Joey

Joey, sshhhhh...(whispering quietly) you'll offend RJ...

#121 — June 12, 2006 @ 22:50PM — Jim

She is a better looking Michael Moore

#122 — June 12, 2006 @ 23:38PM — JH


Thank you for speaking out against Coulter. Distancing yourself from her is smart-- and right.

That said, it is disheartening that such a repudiation is even necessary. What kind of bizarro-world are we in now that even allows such irrelevant vitriol to be broadcast over the airwaves? I'm not suggesting censorship, but I am advocating better judgement. The homeless guy on the corner has a perfect right to mutter or scream his ravings, but no one is booking him on talk shows or dubbing him a "political commentator." If people give him money it is generally because they hope it will shut him up. Ms. Coulter is simply a wealthier, better-dressed version of the crazy corner bum and should be in therapy, not a television studio.

#123 — June 13, 2006 @ 00:15AM — Clavos

Aaaahhh, but Coulter has a better agent than the guy on the corner.

#124 — June 14, 2006 @ 09:29AM — Billy

While I agree that she has nothing valuable to say in a lot of areas, I will defend her right to say it just like I defend the rights of others from all sides (and there are multiple sides out there) to spout their agendas. How much of what we read today is nothing more that usless, out of context or outright lies. Why should everyone be so upset with this one person. Just look around, there are plenty of others on each topic. A prime example is Michael Moore, but I won't go into that here.

#125 — June 14, 2006 @ 16:33PM — mbr

Uh, so why is everyone so mad at Coulter? If you are mad at her because she is vicious, then well, has anyone read the article above...


"Ann Coulter is a brutish lout, a conservative ogre who should be denied a public platform to spout what any conservative with an ounce of integrity and intellectual honesty should be able to see as unacceptable..."

and have you read the attendant comments?

It really makes no sense to be upset about her "attitude, language, etc." unless you reserve some of that criticism for Micahel Moore, Howard Dean, et al. and if you respond with the same.

If you do not like her politics and want to abort babies, redistribute income, save the lousewort and surrender to all of our enemies then put on your Che tee and write a coherent article that actually argues with her. Calling her names because she called Liberal's names only proves her point.

By the way, "Personal attacks are not allowed. Please read our comment policy." is really funny...I love satire.

#126 — June 14, 2006 @ 17:28PM — Nancy

The ones perhaps to be mad at are the MSM: scumbags like Coulter (from every part of the political spectrum) spew lies & viciousness, and the MSM expand it to the nth & then inflict it on the public ad nauseam until the next sick asshole comes along. What the hell has happened to self-restraint & editing as far as the media are concerned? They're all so maniacally intent on not missing out on ANYTHING that might occupy a second's interest (or better, infamy) they stoop to anything and everything, even when it's not worth dogshit. The MSM act like mindless morons in this, and allow themselves to be played like hooked fish. I should think a hooker would be ashamed to be used so blatantly. How about it, you BC-ers in the MSM? What gives here? Is there no one in a position of influence in the MSM to try to do what s/he is supposed to do, which is to report w/out prejudice, instead of joining the feeding frenzies? It seems to me lately most if not all of the MSM are just paid shills for one side or the other....

#127 — June 14, 2006 @ 18:32PM — sr

DAM IF THIS AINT SOME FUN. JUST SITEN HEAR WIT JET DRINKEN CAP MORGAN WITH A LITTLE LIME IN DE COCONUT.

#128 — June 14, 2006 @ 19:00PM — Jet in Columbus [URL]

Huh?

#129 — June 14, 2006 @ 20:17PM — sr

NEW THIS WOULD GET YOUR ATTENTION AMIGO. What's the latest with your sight? Also asked you about Jupiter. Time, direction, etc. Thanks to old Capt Morgan cannot remember the blog or comments. Sometimes I wonder which came first. Capt Morgan or old age. Back to Jupiter. Let me know.

sr

#130 — June 15, 2006 @ 13:59PM — just wondering [URL]

When genuine, truth-telling patriots like Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Clint Curtis, and Bunnatine Greenhouse (look 'em up) can't get the media to even blink at them and sorry specimens like Ann Coulter take number one on the best seller lists, I have to wonder why we believe that anyone in the world would want to be like us. American culture? Now there's an oxymoron.

#131 — June 15, 2006 @ 18:59PM — B Hengemuehler

Coulter is an attention whore trying to sell books. She does NOT represent conservatives. She is also a bit long in the tooth to continue wearing that long blonde "hairdo". I hesitated to even write this comment; why give her more attention? If you want to read her book reserve it at the library; do not purchase it.

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