There are any female rockers. But you need to look outside the "mainstream". Waiting for Hollywood to manufacture a female "rebel" rocker for you may take some time.

For now google around. Puruse web sites,listen to samples. Bottom line seek and you will find your female rocker. Just don't expect her to be mainstream fodder.

there are some rock chicks - the donnas, sahara hotnights, even the like! (although i guess they are more rock chick ensembles).

But yeah, I wish there were a Courtney Love now. I love Courtney Love

Yeah, I like the Donnas and they almost cracked the mainstream but not quite.

I know there's a lot of female rockers who don't get mainstream attention, but that's what I'm looking for. Someone to really get the national attention that someone like Courtney Love got while making music that people actually buy.

How about the Yeah Yeah Yeahs or Ani DiFranco?

i agree that we could use another Pat Benatar, but i'm not so sure i want to see her "pee on the crowd"...lol great post, Don!

Good post, Don. I can't say I want Courtney to return. I think her contributions are minimal. That said, I am still a huge fan of Garbage and wish Shirley Manson would kick it in gear either with or without them. The female artist gallery is rather depressing at the moment.

um... sleater-kinney, metric, mia, deerhoof, kim gordon...

i just got a Deerhoof cd on the strength of a concert review in the local paper. great (if weird) stuff.

i have a hard time with them... at first i didn't think they were weird enough... but then i went back and listened to stuff they did in early groups, and that was soooo fucked up that i got a good reference point to see the weird in their (relatively normal) stuff.

i'll have to revisit that cd...it was weird, not Sonic Youth weird, but defintiely not 'normal'.

you have a point, and it's not just the girls of today's pop/rock scene that have gone soft. Rock is supposed to be dangerous, hard, rebellious.

Now it seems to be all about "feelings", "vulnerability," and "emo" or whatever -- whether your talking about Kelly Clarkson or Coldplay.

Yawn. At least we still have
Diamanda Galas...

svf, there is plenty out there in the rock world that is still "dangerous, hard, rebellious." plen-ty.

Good Post, I think Courtney is right up there with Janis. There are no women that have that "thing". Where o where is Shirley Manson, i wish her and Courtney would tour together with Sinead O'conner on bill too or Deloros O'reierdan of The Cranberries(look outside of Nothing compares2 u for sinead references). I look forward to Courtney's new CD, Linda Perry, BillY C. and MOby??? Lets c how that goes. Clove is overlooked as a great lyricist but for any naysayers, check out Hole's Unplugged Album for Clove at her most raw power, unless you've been lucky enough to see her live

Scott sez...
*or Ani DiFranco?*

Quoted for Truth

Ani is as important as Dylan was, and is a better guitar player

listen and learn....so sayeth yer gonzo

Excelsior!

zingzing... yes you can still find "dangerous, hard, rebellious" rock music... but it's on the "alternative/underground" fringes, not in the "mainstream."

Janis, Joan Jett, Pat Benetar, Grace Slick -- these were big time "popular" acts that sold millions of albums and had legions of fans.

Comparing apples to apples here, the "mainstream" pop/rock of today seems to have gone all soft and mushy.

that's what happens when 12 year olds buy music and the rest of us just download it.

No female rockers? Helloooo!

Pat Benatar is still around. Check out her 2003 album "Go".

Thank you Stephen, you get my point. That's why I edited the title to more accurately reflect what I meant. It's not just rockers (Um, Scott, I mentioned the YYY's), it's rock stars - ladies who shove and yell their way to national mainstream attention and impressive sales.

Sister Ray, that's hilarious. Why didn't I mention her?

And, for the record, for everyone saying "what about...?" I wasn't interested in creating a list of every single female artist who had ever recorded anything remotely related to rock. I used examples to make my point. As much as I would have loved to mention Chrissie Hynde or Ani, I didn't find it necessary to fit them in just for the sake of it.

Chantal, wait, you don't want to be peed on? Wow. It's like I don't even know you anymore. ;)

oh no no no....you still know me, Don, I just don't want Pat Benatar to pee on me! ;)

Dan, the classic rock genre itself is in decline, so I'm not holding my breath on seeing another one of those larger-than-life characters anytime soon. Hip hop, sure--rock, no.

There are plenty of good female singers fronting prog-rock bands. Christina Murphy of Magenta and Heather Findlay of Mostly Autumn come to mind. They are not really stars, but they certainly should be when compared to who's currently topping the charts.

I was waiting for someone to mention prog. Prog does rule.

As I was hesitiant to drop names in my typo ridden first post, I will now. :) I've been listening to Stream of Passion lately. That's Arjen Lucassen's latest band fronted by female Mexican vocalist Marcela Bovio. Google for details.

She's not a 'rebel-Courtney/Janis' type by far. But she does rock and has a ton of talent. She will probably never become mainstream cause she in no way fits the hollywood suits idea of a superstar.

She also teamed up with Heather Findlay and joined a cast of killer talent for Arjen Lucassen's killer work 'The Human Equation'.

JP that's a good point. However, as the "a" is nowhere near the "o" on the keyboard, I'm officially offended that you misspelled my name. But yeah, I totally agree.

OK, Chantal, I guess that makes sense. But c'mon, just a little pee?

not even a drop! :)

Don: D'oh! I never said I could read. ;)

what about amy lee, she's the best!!!!!

I AGREE MORE MORE MORE!
JANIS JOPLIN, PAT BENETAR, LITA FORD, JOAN JETT, ANNE & NANCY WILSON!

I'M DOING MY BEST! I CAN'T TOUCH THEM, BUT I SURE AS HELL WILL SHOUT MY HEAD OFF & ROCK N ROLL LOUD! THE EP IS OUT NEXT MONTH.

You know, I was hoping Britney Spears would just join a hardcore band since she shaved her head and started beating cars with an umbrella.

Gotta love that....

We're doing our best, but hard to get signed when Record Companies only jump on bandwagons - and since they're not signing girl-fronted bands AT ALL, no-one's prepared to take the risk. Sucks! Rea.x

Check out Tara Napoli! She rocks and knows how to write. She was ASCAP featured writer. It's all about finding the underground artist.

xxxxLea~

hayley williams is hot!!!