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<title>Comment by Angel on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-394946</link>
<description>you have to draw the line somewhere. when someone tells you to do something that you truely don&#039;t think is right, are you going to do it? we try to be discrete. you CAN look away or go some place else.
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<title>Comment by TA Dodger on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344874</link>
<description>And for a more nuanced view, see: This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2138629/?nav=mpp&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.
The author, Sydney Spiesel, is a pediatrician and associate clinical professor of pediatrics at Yale University&#039;s School of Medicine. 

The doctor recommends breastfeeding as the best option and describes and explains several of the benefits, but notes that actual studies do not support the &quot;overexuberant&quot; claims of breastfeeding activists. 


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<title>Comment by pj on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344872</link>
<description>Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2006/apr/03/yehey/opinion/20060403opi6.html&quot;&gt;good article&lt;/a&gt; to read regarding these issues: 



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<title>Comment by JP on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344223</link>
<description>All I know is, I flush all the urinals and toilets if I hear someone talking on the phone while pinching a loaf!
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<title>Comment by Andy Marsh on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344197</link>
<description>they may not be sexual...but they sure are sensuos???sensual???  Damn, I always forget that part of the conversation from Animal House!
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<title>Comment by TA Dodger on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344066</link>
<description>&lt;i&gt;you are insecure about yourself, dodger.&lt;/i&gt;

Do you believe that that addresses my arguments somehow?

&lt;i&gt;boobs are not sexual objects. that&#039;s where your mind has been fucked up. nudity or not, who cares? &lt;/i&gt;

O_o That&#039;s news. In your world is the penis / vagina the only part of the human body that is sexualized? How very dull for you. As for my mind being fucked up... I don&#039;t know, I somehow managed to wrap my mind around the concepts manners &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; capitalizaion which is more than I can say for you.

&lt;i&gt;burn in hell.&lt;/i&gt;

Charming. You kiss your baby with that mouth?
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<title>Comment by devil on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-344056</link>
<description>boobs are not sexual objects. that&#039;s where your mind has been fucked up. nudity or not, who cares? burn in hell.
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<title>Comment by angel on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>you are insecure about yourself, dodger.
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<title>Comment by deco on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>wow you are a dumbass
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<title>Comment by MCH on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-343984</link>
<description>Thomas M. Sipos?
Aren&#039;t you kinda famous?
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<title>Comment by TA Dodger on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>&lt;i&gt;What&#039;s a reason that&#039;s not just about you when you ask someone to stop breast feeding?&lt;/i&gt;

It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; just about me. Just like it&#039;s &quot;just about me&quot; when I expect people not to yap on their cellphones at the top of their voices in restaurants. 

Also, give me one reason why breastfeeding in the mall isn&#039;t all about you. It&#039;s not for your baby; you could breastfeed him/her in your car, at your home, or in the bathroom. It&#039;s about &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; and your desire to not be inconvenienced in any way by your child or anyone else. 

&lt;i&gt;Name one reason a person isn&#039;t being considerate when they breast feed in public places (like a mall).&lt;/i&gt;

Because they don&#039;t care if they&#039;re bothering people.  (Unless of course they &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; care and try to be discreet, in which case there&#039;s nothing rude about it). You&#039;re a perfect example. You say that anyone who disagrees with you has been &quot;poisoned.&quot; You refuse, absolutely, to &lt;b&gt;consider&lt;/b&gt; how your behavior makes others feel. That seems to pretty much define &quot;inconsiderate.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Don&#039;t eat in public.&lt;/i&gt;

Eating =/= public nudity.

&lt;i&gt;You need to grow up.&lt;/i&gt; 

Obviously. Because I&#039;m the one getting emotional.... oh wait.

&lt;i&gt;We will start being considerate when you start.&lt;/i&gt;

Done. I don&#039;t expose myself in public. I also, if you&#039;ll notice, argue that women do have a right to breastfeed in public. That is me taking into consideration the needs of others even if what they do might bother me. That is me being considerate.

My whole point is that non-breastfeeders should be &lt;b&gt;tolerant&lt;/b&gt; (just deal with the fact that breastfeeding happens in public and look away, don&#039;t gawk or give women a hard time, etc.) AND breastfeeders should be &lt;b&gt;considerate&lt;/b&gt; (try to cover up, etc.). Obviously an extremely self-centered person on either side would object to these requests.
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<title>Comment by Andy Marsh on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>Actually, I&#039;ve never heard anyone say, stop feeding your baby...it&#039;s usually more like...hey...put that boob away!  Personally, I&#039;m not a boob kinda guy, so it doesn&#039;t bother me...but if you&#039;re gonna whip it out...expect me to look at it...of course, I suspect I&#039;ll end up with a smack in the back of the head...but...such is life!  

I think it&#039;s the prudishness of the US that really makes this a problem...I mean, I never hear of anyone complaining about the bare breasts on the beaches of Mallorca or places like that...I surely don&#039;t remember complaining...
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<title>Comment by fawy on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>What&#039;s a reason that&#039;s not just about you when you ask someone to stop breast feeding?
Name one reason a person isn&#039;t being considerate when they breast feed in public places (like a mall). Insecure people is the reason. You all are bothered by it because your minds are poisened. Boobs are sexually object. Formula feed your baby shit. You need to grow up. Don&#039;t eat in public. We will start being considerate when you start.
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<title>Comment by angel on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>&quot;Like I&#039;ve said, I support the right of women to breastfeed in public. I only object to the attitude of some people that only their needs matter and everyone else can &quot;deal with it.&quot; One wonders how that sort of woman has any hope of raising a child with manners, a child who is considerate of other people. &quot;


you know what, it might seem like that way to the person breast feeding. you aren&#039;t being considerate when you RUDELY ask someone to stop feeding their baby in that area. i realize that some moms should cover up more so the insecure people aren&#039;t bothered. you can just not watch.
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<title>Comment by jay on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>you don&#039;t need to watch someone breast feed. unless their is blinking lights or loud sounds right next to the mother you shouldn&#039;t be so tempted to complain. breast feeding isn&#039;t the same as blabbin away on a cell phone or taking a dump. do you sit on a toilet and eat your dinner in a public restroom? bfing is a quiet healthy thing. america sucks. some people are just so insecure with their own bodies and they have to take it out on other people. they are ignorant.
prove to me that all you anti breast feeding in public people aren&#039;t insecure? boobs are only made to be a sexual object by people.
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:50:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andy Marsh on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-343820</link>
<description>Thomas - I think you lost the argument before you even started!  I get exactly what you&#039;re talking about, but then again, I read.  The government has no business in private business.  If, as you call them, venues, decided to pick and chose what they would and wouldn&#039;t allow then us, the customers, would help that same venue owner decide if he made the right choices by visiting said venue.  It ain&#039;t hard to understand here people.
My kids are teens now, but they were never breast fed in public.  Maybe you&#039;re just running into a bunch of ex-strippers with kids that like exposing themselves in public?
Remember...no shoes...no shirt...no service!
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:40:58 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by TA Dodger on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>&lt;i&gt;Take yourself out of society if you don&#039;t like other people doing things that don&#039;t harm you in anyway. &lt;/i&gt;

When did it become so offensive to expect people to be considerate of others? It&#039;s the same attitude that allows people to gab loudly on their cellphones in otherwise quiet restaurants. (&quot;I &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to take this call and obviously it is unreasonable for you to expect me to go somewhere else for five minutes! It doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;hurt&lt;/i&gt; you, so deal with it.&quot;) 

Like I&#039;ve said, I support the right of women to breastfeed in public. I only object to the attitude of some people that only their needs matter and everyone else can &quot;deal with it.&quot; One wonders how that sort of woman has any hope of raising a child with manners, a child who is considerate of other people. 


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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:09:41 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Angel on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>Take yourself out of society if you don&#039;t like other people doing things that don&#039;t harm you in anyway. People will be different from you no matter what you say or the laws you set.
Learn to get along with people, wise guy.
Learn about breast feeding while you&#039;re at it.
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:07:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by TA Dodger on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-343584</link>
<description>I&#039;ll consider looking away if you consider being discrete. Seems like a fair deal to me.

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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:26:50 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by pj on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/27/114842.php#comment-343297</link>
<description>As for bottle feeding breastmilk:
Lactation is a partnership.  Without the baby, a partner is missing.  Without a mommy, a partner is missing.  Pumping/using a bottle should ideally be used only when the pair are separated, not when someone out there that has ISSUES with breastfeeding in public.

Pumping is better than nothing though.  That live breastmilk is always better (despite the container) than boiled down milk meant for a calf/soybean based based milk with vitamins added.  Our society does not value breastmilk.  It values making money.  And the pharmaceuticals do as well as the businees community that diminishes breastfeeding by only having 6-8 weeks maternity leave.  And the medical community that gets their buildings, residencies, trips, lunches, etc. for paid for by knowing all about artificial baby milk formula and know absolutely NOTHING about breastfeeding.  And until breastmilk becomes a real money maker, this type of crazy blog will continue.

And instead of the ladies (older and younger) getting upset by seeing a baby being breastfed in public and thinking back to their &quot;inability&quot; to breastfeed, they should be angry that they did not have the support to do it.  Women are made to breastfeed, if others will allow it.  Just like women are made to be pregnant.  But being exposed to those who are having problems, it makes one think that the majority cannot.

Just with any health behavior, there is ideal, less ideal, and what occurs in reality.

But when your hangups because of your own personal experience impact another&#039;s positive health behaviors, please consider looking away.

Take care now.




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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:02:38 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Janice on If You&#039;re in My Face, I&#039;m Not Free</title>
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<description>After reading everything and realizing that you dislike all children under the age of probably 28, I have realized something.  
You don&#039;t have chilren, and have some serious issues.  You should realize that 99.9999% of all people in the world will eventually end up having a child.  Even if that child was not born to them.  Oh and 100% of adults including yourself were once children.  We do not allow those children to vote or decide laws for the country in any way, but they are still afforded rights within those laws.  So if you think your opinion should hold weight, compare it up against all the voters out there that have children or remember being a child.  You will find you are not in the majority or even close.  
Now stop and take a few days to devote to research on breastfeeding.  Now research the effects of breastfeeding on the public, now research the history of breastfeeding.  Research the effects of a formula fed society. And lastly contemplate a completely childless society.   
My opinion, as I am sure every rational mind in the world would agree, a world without children would be a sad sad place.  Filled with death.  Sure you would have some fun for a while but that would fade quickly.  Then you would have to deal with all other people who spend millions of dollars on medical intervention trying to conceive.  
That is what we are designed to do and there will be no rights taken away from anyone because of some man who has issues.  You are entitled to rant about your dislikes the same as I am entitled to rant about your words.  And just as someone else aready mentioned, there already are places that do not allow children.  I can guarentee you won&#039;t be watching me breastfeed my child in a club, bar, and I will only go to hooters if there is a group gathering that I feel I need to attend.  The same goes for the restraunt hineys.  As well as flying hooters air.  Before this law, the options for breastfeeding mothers with their children was almost as limited as the options I just gave you.  The number 1 most natural thing for us as humans to do is to reproduce.  It is the only thing that keeps us alive as a species.  And providing for our children and the future generations is how we provide for our futures as well.  Because they are the future.  And breastfeeding them will help them be healthier, smarter, and more emotionally stable.  
You have many options and you are only 1 man with many opinions.  We are many Mothers and many babies with 1 opinion.  Now we have just as many options.  

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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:58:17 EST</pubDate>
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<description>Ok, I haven&#039;t read all the blogs but I read a few.  Enough to compell me to add my own 2 cents.  
So you know where I am coming from, I am breastfeeding my almost 1 year old as I write this.  
Here in the US and many other western societies, there has been a negative opinion of breastfeeding for a very very long time.  Which has negativly affected the childrens health.  There is a whole world of information out there on the impacts of formula for a child as well tons of information which I will not go into detail about here.  
However, the point I am making is that before this law, I would have been forced out of the majority of places or told to take my baby to a restroom and sit in the the dirty stall just to breastfeed my child.  I didn&#039;t have much of a choice because most places said &quot;NO BREASTFEEDING&quot; thus confining me to my car during my outings.  When my baby would cry I would have to leave.  This allows us (breastfeeding mom&#039;s and their extra smart and healthy babies) to actually go to public places and become active parts of society.  
And my point about western societies views?
By allowing breastfeeding women to openly feed their children in public, we as a society are telling the next generation of girls that it is ok and good for them to breastfeed.  Hopefully the next generation will have a much higher rate of breastfeeding which will result in lower health care costs.  And the government knows that.  
By leaving everything up to the private sector to decide, we leave our lives up to those who have the most money.  Private sector rules are a good idea to a point.  But what happens when someone starts segregating again.  No blacks, no hispanics, no whites, no women, no men.  And without these laws in place to regulate what things a private person or sector can enforce, we would end up at the will of those in power.  And we are a democracy are we not?  How about a vote?  :D
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<description>Can&#039;t people bottle breast milk? I realize it might not be possible to always breastfeed from a bottle (even in public), but when it&#039;s happening somewhere like an airplane where you&#039;re sitting literaly inches from someone else, (if there&#039;s any space between you at all) I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too much to ask that parents bring pumped and bottled breast milk with them (if they don&#039;t use formula).

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<description>I think formula feeding is obscene and offensive, so should I be able to ban that in my business?  I think most everyone would agree that&#039;s wrong, and breasts should be no different.  

I believe the real question is where do my rights end and someone else&#039;s begin?  Cell phone users are traditionally bad drivers, so their right to use their phone is infringing seriously upon my right to expect other motorists to refrain from killing me.  I agree that cell phone users then should turn off the phone and concentrate.

But breastfeeding is completely and totally different.  By allowing businesses to restrict bfing in their stores, most businesses would likely ban it in order to accommodate anti-bf bigots...those fanatics that are okay with Hooters on every corner but are offended by my discreet nursing.  This practically forces mothers to choose formula in order to go through their daily lives -- how can I shop for my family&#039;s food, mail letters, etc if I have to sprint home every hour to feed my newborn?  That choice is poor all around -- nutritionally inferior, allows less bonding, and encourages obesity and allergies.  There are experts that assert that bfing is directly tied to reduction of behavioral problems like ADD and reduction of obesity in children, along with myriad benefits for the mother.  And yet I should be forced into a nutritional/emotional corner by those who find my &quot;bulging&quot; breast &quot;unappetizing&quot;?  My right to breastfeed does not materially harm anyone else, and infringes minimally on someone else&#039;s enjoyment of a public place...therefore it doesn&#039;t pass a common sense test, much less a legal one for restricting it.  

So you eat a few bites less because you&#039;re offended by me...judging by the obesity rates in this country, everyone could stand to eat a little less!
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<description>re:  #15

how is feeding a baby a &quot;behavioral choice?&quot;  a baby needs to eat, even in public!  as others have said, it is hardly akin to smoking in public or blathering on a cell phone, and it is certainly NOTHING like &quot;taking a dump.&quot;  it&#039;s really sad that we live in a society where nourishing an infant is taboo.  

you would do well to educate yourself before saying such uninformed, harmful things.  attitudes like yours perpetuate ignorance and place a stigma on something about which people really shouldn&#039;t even think twice.  a mother feeding her baby is natural and perfectly normal, no matter where they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.4woman.gov/breastfeeding/index.cfm?page=227&quot;&gt;
might be.&lt;/a&gt;
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