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Is Google About To Buy Sun Microsystems?

Written by Daniel M. Harrison
Published February 26, 2006

A while ago, I published on my own weblog a critique of Google's equity price that was very widely picked up by some other blogs, including some of the mainstream online press and investment banks. The essence of the argument was that at a price-to-earnings ratio of around 90, when compared to Microsoft's meagre 20, Google stock was way, way overvalued and that the stock was heading for a plunge. Easy to say with hindsight, but I received a lot of criticism for it at the time of writing in November:

The only way that Google can possibly sustain this kind of price to earnings valuation is to actually deliver a viable desktop software before Microsoft comes out with its challenge next year. If it doesn't, and the price of its shares starts to fall (as it surely will), Google is going to find itself having to split its current stock in order to attract more investors to its equity, a strategy that could lead it to decline further.

The prediction indeed came true: since the time of writing, Google stock has fallen by round 25%.

But they may just go one better than my previous dismal forecast. I'm going to make a unique prediction here:

Google is about to buy Sun Microsystems.

Last year Google announced a potential partnership with the ailing technology giant and has since announced such a deal with Dell - such announcements indicate a need for more technological capacity on Google's part than they currently have. And they could hardly be better placed right now to acquire those capacities.

For one, Eric Schmidt, the current CEO of Google and former CTO of Sun, as appointed by Page and Brin, positions the organisation perfectly in terms of negotiating a reasonable price for the search engine goliath - and with the current market price as it stands, it wouldn't have to pay very much either. Add to this that Google - now firmly in the black - can afford to swallow the negative earnings of Sun at the same time as using their expertise to deliver the much-needed software platform to sustain current revenues and the scenario looks increasingly likely.

As if all that weren't enough, the numerous option excercising and sale of stock insiders at the company have been carrying out recently - only last week, Chairman Scott Mc. Nealy relieved himself of roughly ten million dollars in Sun equity - and it all seems a little too coincidental.

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#1 — February 26, 2006 @ 13:48PM — Eric Olsen

this absolutely rocks Daniel - thanks and welcome!!

#2 — February 26, 2006 @ 15:07PM — Pseudonym

Google doesn't need Sun to make use of StarOffice (OpenOffice) or Java. Google knows more about how hardware and storage can satisfy their requirements than Sun ever will, and Solaris doesn't add anything that Google can't get elsewhere.

#3 — February 26, 2006 @ 16:25PM — Mike [URL]

I think you're absolutely correct. Sun has lately been acquiring Linux companies. This may be a bid to strengthen it's current standing in the OS market before the takeover by Google.

#4 — February 26, 2006 @ 16:42PM — Eric Berlin [URL]

Great piece Daniel, looking forward to much more !

#5 — February 26, 2006 @ 16:58PM — Dave D

Hmm, I wonder if that means that GoogleOS could be based on Nexenta (which is Ubuntu/Debian running on the Solaris kernel instead of Linux).

#6 — February 26, 2006 @ 18:57PM — NeiL

Wouldn't Google get more bang per buck in the desktop space by buying Novell, or even Linspire?

#7 — February 26, 2006 @ 19:10PM — .8 on myspace

this is good news 2 my googlitis

#8 — February 26, 2006 @ 19:16PM — Mr. Real Estate [URL]

I wouldn't be surprised if Google bought both Dell and Sun Microsystems. If they owned both and had a Google OS, they would then have the total product and be the PC version of a Mac.

-John Mudd
"Mr. Real Estate"

#9 — February 26, 2006 @ 19:52PM — Kevin Hutchinson [URL]

Sorry, but I disagree with most of what you've written. On your specific chart points:
1) If the GOOG buyers are not disclosed, how do you know? Seems they are being downgraded right now?
2) See
- value investors are buying SUNW

3) The Microsoft (MSFT) price has been static on missed product deadlines and poor MSN performance ...and company founders like Scott McNealy don't offload shares when they are about to be bought out.

Google's mission is to "organise the world's information". Sun's mission is to "solve complex network computing problems". So on the face of it they are a good match-up, and their corporate DNAs both share the anti-Microsoft gene.

But does Google want to own a smart hardware company any more than Oracle might? I think not. But, hell, if you're right I'll eat my hat! (Red Hat that is ;-)

PS I hold some SUNW shares
PPS See for my analysis

#10 — February 26, 2006 @ 22:33PM — svinsider

If Google buys Sun, the weight of a sinking ship will only drag Google down.


#11 — February 26, 2006 @ 23:12PM — Mike

And what, exactly, does Google get out of buying Sun? They can license Java, if necessary, at a price much lower than putting an albatross like Sun around its neck. Sun's hardware is barely competitive at this point. And I seriously doubt that Google wants Solaris.

So what does that leave?

#12 — February 27, 2006 @ 09:28AM — Alec

Sun's hardware is barely competitive? People fail to realize that when you want a 10tb database there are few vendors who can compete with Sun. I find our company which is globally aligned with Dell on the PC platform is trying to find a loophole to get Sun to replace their pc servers. Sun is closer then ever to having a platform at the right performance/price level for every level of computing (just keep in mind they expect a 50-60% discount on their list).

If Sun could get their act together on management tools I think they'd be back in the win column. The other thing that always is intriguing about Sun is if they reduced their R&D the slightest bit they'd show a profit... They just don't feel a need to show a profit...

#13 — February 27, 2006 @ 09:56AM — Mr. Real Estate [URL]

Google's success is because of text ads and a formula that allows them to greatly capitalize from the text ads. See here for details. Text ads can make anything profitable if it receives enough traffic, or users, and besides, Google would likely be unable to create an OS without Sun's technology. MP3 players were losers until Apple created the iPod, and while it's not an MP3 player, technically, all they did is take the MP3 player concept and made it a little bit better. iPods have trouble staying on the shelves. Google would likely have a very similar effect on Sun Microsystems if it were to move forward with an acquisition.

-John Mudd
"Mr. Real Estate"

#14 — February 27, 2006 @ 10:29AM — Christopher Rose [URL]

Of course, Google's search algorithm is the real source of their success, John.

Er, that link seems to be broken...

#15 — February 27, 2006 @ 15:05PM — Frank

Okay,so who do I invest in - SUN or GOOGLE?? Which one will make out in this potential acquisition?

PS - Article!

#16 — February 28, 2006 @ 05:20AM — Daniel M. Harrison [URL]

Well, this piece is really gaining momentum. My advice?

ST: Sell Google, buy Sun.

LT: Once the takeover is through - if it happens - buy back the stock.

#17 — March 1, 2006 @ 12:50PM — David

interesting story!!! what could be the Sun share price if there is the takeover? Is there any other updates on this story ?

#18 — March 1, 2006 @ 17:03PM — Brian Sorrell [URL]

Very interesting prediction.

I agree with some of the above -- that Sun's machines are solid -- but their interface and management tools are weaker than others. Maybe, if you're right, Google is banking on putting their interface skills to work with Solaris?? That might help prop up Solaris' share of the server market and maybe even put them back on the desktop.

#19 — March 2, 2006 @ 11:38AM — Michael_tx

Oh, it's a bomb!!! The arguments of the article sounds realistic. Is there any other comments form the author?

#20 — March 2, 2006 @ 18:32PM — alex

"NEW YORK, March 2 (Reuters) - Web search leader Google Inc. aims to become a $100 billion company and plans to put computer systems and other investments in place to help reach that scale during 2006, executives said on Thursday."
"I'll leave it to you to judge whether that is $100 billion in market capitalization or revenue," Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt coyly said as he outlined his 2006 priorities to Wall Street analysts at the annual Google Analyst Day meeting.

I am really intrigued by this, everybody know that Google has already around $116 billion in market capitalization and their gross revenue last year was $6.14 billion, so if I am not wrong they must increase their revenue of $93.86 billion for this year, it's huge. How he can do that? Buying sun to increse revenue as the article has predicted ?

#21 — March 11, 2006 @ 13:14PM — Frank Gruber [URL]

I think you are right on with your prediction Daniel. I think Google has been courting Sun since they teamed up last fall (October 2005). With Google looking to run everything online (GDrive, Calendar, Writely, GMail, etc.) they may need to servers and processing power and what better way to get it than to buy Sun.

#22 — March 12, 2006 @ 22:27PM — John smith

The in depth analysis is good to understand and
thought provoking. But, in it's shape Google
does not seem like need a h/w company. As per recent
comments by Eric, Google want to provide/use Internet as a channel of biz. to reach end users and
there by making internet as a vehicle to sell things.

#23 — March 14, 2006 @ 10:31AM — Jeff Venters

The last thing Google needs is Sun. I'm amazed at foolish ideas proposed by people outside the computer industry such as this. Google is still an innovative, fast moving, young company that is not weighed down by a stodgy bureaucracy such as Sun. An acquisition such as this would distract Google management for at least a year. It's likely the drag effect on management would go on for at least two years. Lets all hope Eric is smarter than this. The future lies in web-based Client-Server technologies such as AJAX. That includes the ability to provide desktop application functionality that only requires a browser to utilize (i.e., no Microsoft Office) and is tightly integrated with all of Google's framework is what Google needs to focus on. Once this is accomplished Google should productize it for the Enterprise. This would run best on X86-based based COMMODITY server hardware and possibly on Linux. Sun doesn't fit this model nor would its price or customer base.

#24 — March 14, 2006 @ 11:08AM — jfb2002

This is gibberish. Google uses no Sun products; Google has no need for Sun products; Google doesn't want to sell corporate support contracts to run giant Oracle instances, which is all that Sun does anymore.

More to the point, Sun is dying. What do they have that an internet ad sales company would want? Their patent portfolio is mostly tied up in slow in-order processors and giant NFS boxes, neither of which is remotely interesting to a company that uses commodity hardware and a hand-rolled high-speed network layer.

#25 — March 17, 2006 @ 16:25PM — Kenneth Martin

Sun just spent a 4 Bilion to aquire StorageTek, one of the leaders in worlwide storage. But, Sun just kill the customer expectations in storage, changing products and solutions from a very good structured company as StorageTek was. Now StorageTek is only a brand with lot of Sunīs well know operational problems. I think Mr. McNelly will have to explain to world why they spent bunchs of money from investidors to aquire StorageTek with no sucessfull result. Maybe the explanation will be done by Google in future.

#26 — March 23, 2006 @ 17:42PM — Alex Dolftei

This is gibberish. Google uses no Sun products;
Google has no need for Sun products;

Does Java count as a SUN product ?

Why don't you shut up and let the grown-ups talk ;)

#27 — March 23, 2006 @ 20:34PM — pjm [URL]

Why don't you shut up and let the grown-ups talk ;)

Well that's convinced me, Alex.

Mr Martin and jfb2002 make a convincing case that Google shouldn't touch Sun. All points overlooked by Mr Harrison who needs to go back to business school and start in the remedial class.

Google doesn't run on Sun software or hardware, and doesn't need Sun software or hardware, which would significantly add to Google's costs. Sun's business is shrinking. There's no upside here.

Why don't you try and address the points raised rationally, instead of sneering. It isn't very convincing.

This is the most idiotic post I've ever read on Blogcritics.

#28 — March 27, 2006 @ 15:04PM — shkook

it is all because of Oren Gimel

#29 — April 23, 2006 @ 10:15AM — Barnie

It only makes sense as a weapon against Microsoft. Google would break Sun in small companies and would sell them again to different microsoft competitors, keeping little itself.

Currently Sun is in a bad position because it competes in different markets: Servers, Operating Systems, Application servers, databases, user applications, Java (VM and language), etc.

Sun value is much higher in pieces that as it is currently. Redhat would pay a lot for all the solaris customers. IBM for the server technology. Java would become more valuable owned by a non profit organization, and they can keep the trademark. Oracle could by the applications server stack.

I really do not understand what are they waiting.

#30 — June 22, 2006 @ 01:06AM — orange county home inspectors [URL]

Google has the money and power to buy almost anything! even countries!

#31 — July 12, 2006 @ 06:49AM — Hennie Kloppers [URL]

Read this to get some REAL objective view on this: linux-watch.com

Thanks
Hennie

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