Absinthe: The Perfect Drug?
Published October 05, 2005
Ever since the ad went up here at Blogcritics, that bottle has drawn my eye, the green fairy beckoning from within. Famous for its use by artists and writers in years past, absinthe is back as a forbidden indulgence.
When the video for the Nine Inch Nails song "The Perfect Drug" was released in 1997, talk of absinthe, particularly among the Goth community and other subcultures, helped to bring the drug back into the spotlight. The video had a dark mystique that brought to mind tortured artists and dark poets, something that seems to go hand in hand with certain phases of youth. Since then, absinthe has begun to pop up more often in films, though one could find it there even back in 1943, in For Whom the Bell Tolls. Lately, however, absinthe can pop up anywhere, unsurprisingly in a film such as 2001's From Hell, where the sinister preparation suited the dark atmosphere, and even in the 2004 comedy Eurotrip as a spur for party-time insanity.
The hubbub over absinthe is twofold. First, the drink boasts extraordinarily high alcohol content (as high as 160 proof), and second, absinthe contains thujone, a component of the herb wormwood. In the late 19th century, increasing public outcry brought about bans of the substance in several countries. According to the Vaults of Erowid, absinthe was first banned in Belgium in 1905, and initially banned in the United States in 1912, though additional laws regarding the substance thujone have been passed since. However, the legal issues here in the states are sticky; it is illegal to sell absinthe, and illegal to import it, but not illegal to possess it.
But why? Also from the Vaults of Erowid:
The 1850's saw the beginnings of concern about the results of chronic absinthe use. Chronic use was believed to produce a syndrome, called absinthism, which was characterized by addiction, epileptic attacks, delerium, and hallucinations....it was believed that any traits acquired by absinthists would be passed on to their children.
Further, the upswing in absinthe consumption seems to have coincided with a general increase in alcoholism, as well as in bohemian ideas, both of which were seen as a threat to polite society.
But everything has a cycle of popularity and absinthe, it seems, is back. Absinthe is legal in Spain, growing in popularity in Prague, and is an occasional fixture, despite the hefty price tag, at parties here in the United States.
I myself have never had the opportunity to try my hand at burning a sugar cube over a shot of absinthe, but I must say, I'm intrigued by the idea of the drink and as a writer, tempted by the romanticism of past intellectuals who swore by it. But I am wary of taking the risk of importing an expensive bottle, and there are too many health risks to be associated with one of the DIY absinthe kits floating about on the Internet (considering that wormwood is a poison and can cause death, I would rather stay on this side of alive).
Still, someday I hope to have an absinthe story to share. For now, I'll have to settle for reading and listening to the stories of others, and licking my lips whenever that ad pops up in the Blogcritics sidebar.
The LegendaryMonkey is also Alisha Karabinus, a blogger and writer from Little Rock, Arkansas. Find out more at Sudden Nothing.
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Comments
Great job, LM. My one and only run in with absinthe came at a rather bohemian bar known only to locals in Barcelona (I had mentioned this story elsewhere as taking place in Madrid, which I later realized was incorrect -- it was that kind of night!).
Ah... Spain. I fell in love with a girl in Spain, and it's just possible that the absinthe had something to do with it!
Ever since some novels that included absinthe drinking -- a milky liquid that induced hallucinations and was popular in New Orleans -- it seemed like one more thing less dangerous than smoking and fast food that had been banned for bringing on Bohemianism. It sounded great. Now I can no longer drink and I hear it is back. How sad. I guess I'll read and lick my lips, too.
Heh, you'll just have to stop by my house, I always have a good bottle at home.
Or swing by my place in Spain, we have some too. I must say, so far I haven't really noticed anything markedly different to other alcohol, but I like it!
super job LM, great history and context - thanks!
The concerns about absinthe a century ago sound a bit like Marijuana: Threat or Menace? a half-century ago, don't they?
I wish laudanum would make a comeback.
When speaking of absinthe, one simply cannot forget the bar scene in EuroTrip
Good article, LM. I think it's funny to imagine people out there buying this in hope it will make them "creative" in some romanticized styling. Can you say placebo? :)
You may as well do a Flaming Dr. Pepper shot, because that's just as cool and probably tastes a hell of a lot better. But that's just me.
Hey Berlin, are you sure she existed, or was that maybe just the absinthe, too? :)
Joanie, the bar scene is the only reason I watched Eurotrip. A good friend was trying to convince me to watch it and I was totally not interested, but he was laughing so hard when he tried to talk about the green fairy guy that I figured I had to see it.
It was surprisingly funny. But for a long time after that, we would just randomly bust the quote from the movie: "This absinthe is bullshit!"
Comedy gold.
Anyway, thanks for the props, guys. The research on this one was interesting. Learned a lot!
Hmm. I live in a highrise with no screens on my plate glass windows so if I started hallucinating . . . So how are you supposed to drink this, poured through ice, through a sugar cube? In a special glass? What's the scoop. How much does it cost?
So I can mail order this legally?
As I understand it, one of the ways you can do it is pour a shot of absinthe into a glass, dip a sugar cube into the liquid, then place it on a slotted spoon balanced over the glass. Set the cube on fire and let it melt.
I may be missing a step. The ad site was actually pretty informative on that.
Has anyone tried to import it into the United States? Does Customs confiscate it or will it actually get through, if you buy it over the Internet. I have really been thinking of buying some, but it is an expensive purchase to only get confiscated.
My nephew buys it all the time; over the internet, I think, and he's never had any problems.
Don't know the details, but I'm sure someone hereabouts does.
mmmmm.. absinthe...
Legend,
I've done my share of following Hemingway's footsteps around when traveling in Europe (eating and drinking in places like The Select in Paris etc.). Of course, I think the drink absinthe was banned in France and other places because of wormwood, which I think is now gone from the new product.
Another drink that is a literary cousin is Pernod, which I tried because it came up in Hemingway's work. Pernod tastes a bit like licorice and is delicate yet biting. A few of them can get to you. Add a little water (ala Hem) and watch it cloud up to this misty greenish milky haze.
Oh, have some water handy to sip in between. Cheers!
If there's no wormwood, it's not real absinthe, but just another drink. Still highly alcoholic, but not quite the real thing, as I understand it.
I may have to bite the bullet and try the mail order thing as a Christmas present to myself. Hmm, hmm....
Great story, LM, interesting how us "creative types" are always intrigued by the dark side of things.
if you really enjoy the history/culture of absinthe, i recommend Phil Baker's book, The Book of Absinthe. i read it while i was going through my absinthe-minded phase. good book, talks about the rise and fall and re-birth of the Absinthe as well as the bohemian aspect of it. pick it up.
Drugged-out hippies, the whole lot of you.
Shape up, ship out, and join the Marines.
Semper fi.
Legend,
I remember being told (I believe it was in Barcelona on an otherwise lost night) that "wormwood" is highly toxic, and that is why it was outlawed.
Please let me know if wormwood is still in the new version. Thanks.
Vic
Yes, real, honest absinthe is still made, I believe, by infusing wormwood with alcohol to leach some of the thujone, the component that helps to make absinthe such a unique drink. Authentic absinthe, even in the modern day, still contains wormwood.
Wormwood can be deadly if one ingests too much -- it can cause renal failure. This is why DIY absinthe kits can be dangerous. If you want to try it, it's best to do so on a trip overseas or to order a bottle from a reputable source.
That's as I understand it from my research, at least.
I hear that real Absinthe is still made with wormwood, only a handful of countries produce it and it is banned in many. The wormwood is found to be fatal, but you would sooner die from an alcohol overdose before the amount of wormwood in your system becomes a problem.
Right - it only becomes a problem with these DIY kits, when people get a few ounces of wormwood and don't pay attention to what they're doing. Then it can be quite easy to poison yourself.
Today's good absinthes out of the EU are standardized to have anywhere from 10mg/l - 35mg/l (max) of the active ingredient Thujone.
Almost anything in the right concentration can kill you. Ex: Nicotine is a particularly nasty poisonous substance at 100% strength.
Most of the old 1890s 'Absinthism' was junk science to support a political agenda. Most of the damaging elements were additives found in cheap absinthes like methanol, green copper dyes, etc.
If you read November's Wired, you might have heard that Ted Breaux is the king of absinthe right about now.
Best places for best info, esp. not spending $90/bottle on Czech mouthwash mixed with Vodka are: http://feeverte.net and http://absintheonline.com
Personally I'm going for Ted's 'Edouard 72' or the Reformulated fils d'Emile Pernot 'Un Emile 68'. Read the reviews on feeverte.
cheers.
I'm going to try those Flaming Dr. Peppers tomorrow. They sound like Heaven. I'm also interested in trying the real Absinthe made with wormwood. The Bohemian in me screams for a date with the Green Fairy.
I drank Absinthe while stationed in Germany, and it is just like other alcohol. Just like everything else in modern culture, the slight mystique and the possibility that this will get you "high" have made Absinthe popular without good reason.
Go ahead.. spend good money on it. Do the little sugar rituals. Enjoy it. Get high if that's what you think you want. Whatever... or just order an Anheiser-Busch product... same/same.
when i hear the word absinthe i am
reminded of the tolouse lautrec trecccccc painting "a glass of absinthe absince.". the couple in the painting
th appeared "wigged out" pa
Comment #28 above is right, in my experience. I bought into the hype -- and I bought a two bottles of a respected Czech brand of Absinthe online from a source in the UK for over $200 US. I hoped for some kind of a great, inspirational, hallucinatory high, but I just got a regular ol' (albeit perfectly pleasant) alcohol buzz.
Live and learn!
There is a lot overblown about absinthe. It's not a hallucinogen, and it's main effects are from good old fashioned alcohol.
However, with good absinthes (meaning essentially Jade Liqueurs absinthes), there are secondary effects. The most noticeable is that you feel more alert, you don't get the dragged-down groggy effect you get with most alcohol (unless you drink a lot of it). So you are alert and lively, but drunk: an ideal condition for artists and writers to turn off their conscious minds and get creative. So in that respect, it's reputation as the drink of the muse is deserved - you don't do much creating when you are passed out. This alert drunkness is the secondary effect most often observed. Also the alcohol used in Jade Liqueurs absinthes is of a very high quality, which helps.
A perhaps rather subjective secondary effect for me is that I "dream strangely" after drinking absinthe. I remember my dreams, which I don't usually do, and on one morning after sort of floated in between dreaming and waking while sitting up in a chair. Again, it's subjective, but for whatever it's worth it does strange things to my dreams.
For a world used to shock drugs like crack and pot and LSD, the effects of absinthe may not seem like much, but they hook you. Those who have the patience to work with a drug whose effects are subtle will find that patience rewarded. Absinthe is truly the drink of shadows, the drink of the dreamland, and except for Chartreuse I don't drink anything else.
Also, to add some helpful info:
1. Czech absinthes are almost universally derided by absintheurs as fluorescent mouthwash. Go French or Swiss, Spanish if need be, but never Czech. They make great beer but rotten absinthe.
2. The whole fire ritual thing is a modern commercialization, again a Czech invention. Unless you really like the taste of caramel or want to set yourself on fire, skip it. The traditional ritual is here:
can you get a + drug reading from drinking it
oh pish, it's illegal to bring "havana club" into the USA, too but it never stopped me from taken it in. it's impossible to find cheap good rum in the USA (flor de caña, zacapa, etc...) and havana club is among the cheapest and best. mezcal was also illegal in the USA for years. The allure is in the forbidden i guess. Yes I've gotten a pretty strong buzz from absinthe, but it's not all 'o that. hemingway drank himself with what... whiskey..? go drink some whiskey sonny boy, and you'll write A Farewall To Arms...
Most modern absinthe has little real resemblance to the stuff that was so popular at the turn of the (previous) century. My uderstanding is that it was the wormwood, which is now gone, that enabled all those larrikin writers and raconteurs to pay their little visits to "the green fairy".
These days, its only defining factor is that it has a high alcohol content.
If someone is willing to do a little reading and research, there is a terrific site about the truths regarding absinthe. Good folk and well educated. They know what they're talking about.
Google up wormwood society.org. These are adults that honestly know their stuff. I just happened across your site and read the posts. Personally, I like absinthe and drink it more often than my liver would like. Friends don't let friends burn absinthe. Have a blessed day.
pishpish
"and havana club is among the cheapest and best".
cheapest ?? oops
were can i find it cheap, except in cuba.its the best, but sure not the cheapest..am i missing something?
i like pernod/pastis that how i got to this blog
I just got back from the Czech Republic (La Repubblica Ceca) and I brought back three bottles of absinthe - as well as spent last night drunk off my ass after trying too much. Do not be mistaken, it is a great drink and as strong as is said. It is not, however, hallucinogenic despite what the shopkeepers in Prague try to tell you (it's sold everywhere in town). I have not gotten it through US customs yet, I am still living in Milan for a while but if you are like me and you just want to bring it back to impress people - buy a thing of Crest mouthwash and empty it then refill it with the absinth. Customs will never know and you can carry the bottle (empty now) onboard the plane with you. In bocca al lupo, tutti.
Illegal smegal! This dude In Washington is making absinthe moonshine:
"Billing itself as a Swiss-style absinthe, this is the brain-child of a Washington resident who, for now, shall remain nameless. A work of love, it is my understanding that experimentation was done under a full moon, with a single hidden still"
It's called Marteau Verte, and only those in the know can get it
Shouldn't that be 'illegal shmillegal'?
Illegal or not, it's really kewel that someone in the US is selling moonshined asbinthe.
I was reading the forums at feeverte, and it looks like the guy that owns/runs wormwood society.org is the one making it?
I'm going to offer him some money for a bottle. What do you think is reasonable?
Quick note for clarification folks:
My absinthe is not "moonshined," it is being distilled in Switzerland at a legal distillery. It will be available online from a distributor in Germany, and will not be released in the US until some time later.
Whoa! chill out ... Boss Hogg doesn't read Blogcritics
"Marteau is Swiss-style. It may have been distilled in the U.S. by an individual for private use, but now that the government has started to allow absinthe in the country legally, this individual has gone to one of his friends in Switzerland to have it distilled in a larger, more commercial facility than, let's say, his house"
Wasn't it 'shine that was served at Tales of The Cocktail in The Big Easy then? That is what I heard from Jamie Boudreau anyway.
Draven: Hiram is a cool guy and I guess a "donation" to his society might work?
How much do you want for a bottle of the original moon run, hiram? The Swiss copy that y'all making now isn't going to be the same, and the legal US versions are all phoney.
Shine on my friend!
Sorry Vinny, you're wrong.
No I'm not..I know these guys. You should get over to wormwoodsociety.org and ask around by private message if you want some of this hot juice. This guy is a expert with wormwood
"The sample which you have and which the 150 people at the Forgotten Ingredients panel discussion at Tales of the Cocktail were from my prototypes, since the end commercial product has not yet been released"
So who do you know at the WS? What's your screen name?
What I meant was that you were wrong about it being moonshine.
His prototypes are distilled with as much care and expertise (and legality) as the final product will be.
I've been a member of the WS for a long time now, and actually spent much time with Hiram at the TotC.
Your comment about all the US stuff being phony is also a little off. Right now, Lucid (by Ted Breaux) is out and is an authentic absinthe. Hiram's absinthe is great, and will hopefully be out soon. Also, a lesser quality, yet still authentic absinthe, Kubler 45 will be out in the near future as well.
B is correct here as Hiram has been making absinthe for years using a loophole in Washington laws:
"Washington also has a Chemist Distiller's permit for only $20 a year, available to commercial chemists and developers who are not manufacturing spirits for sale"
Perhaps you should READ, before calling it moonshine! I am a member of Wormwood Society, and whilst we may all enjoy the occasional private barbeque, he doesn't SELL his production and therefore it is legal.
I hope you are all looking forward to drinking Marteau Verte absinthe, the ONLY absinthe formulated in the USA!
Wrongo Mac,
Watch this little snippet. Already made and formulated in the US.
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I distribute alcohol and the law is very strict.
Draven, if you wish to check about who made the absinthe served at NOLA, why not ask the Matter-Luginbühl Distillery in Kallnach? I am sure they have all the relevant documentation relating to the export of the protype for Marteau Verte.
On the other hand, if this isn't the case, there is always theFBI Home distilled liquer is dangerous, and interstate transport a serious matter. If you have evidence that someone is serving illegaly distilled high proof alcohol, you should report it to the relevant authority and not make allegations online.
Drinking illegal alcohol is not just a matter of tax, as some might suggest, but of safety. It can kill or blind you if the distiller is an an amateur using an unregulated still.
I think that you will find that this absinthe was distilled in Switzerland and not Seattle! If I'm wrong I'll be quite surprised.
Stow the scare tactics about illegally made hooch; and no one is calling the FBI. This isn't about tattle tale-ing, it's about revealing the truth. You know, the kind of thing real journalists do.
My comment was not about the recent developments at Matter, what was served at Nola, nor where it came from.
I'm calling shenanigans.
I'm quite sure the $20 chemist permit does not allow Hiram to produce intoxicating spirits nor do I believe it allows him to share such products for consumption at BBQ's. The gov't is very touchy about not getting their tax dollars on booze, and he's not making perfume or oils, he's making liqueur.
It's a nice permit to use an excuse as to why he has a functioning still, but in order to actually distill spiritous liquor and consume it(charging or not) one has to go through the FEDERAL level as well as the state.
Questions? Do some reading at the TTB
No, he's not making liqueur, he's making liquor. There's a difference.
Inform yourself before making wild accusations. It's amazing that someone who calls themselves a journalist would use a web forum like FV as a source of the 'truth'. If you read the entire thread, it's obviously filled with sensationalism and outright fallacies.
1) Absinthe IS a Liqueur.
2) You're right, FV is no source of the truth. It's only there to make money and steer people to the bank accounts of 2 individuals. While FV may contain a lot of historical information, and is certainly closer to truth than WS, it is ultimately a shill.
3) If by "thread" you mean this one, yes it is full of what you describe. The world of absinthe abounds with myth, ignorance and hype... mainly because people like yourself believe what they are told. The only difference between you and a Czechsinth loving fire swiller is the person you trust to be telling the truth.
"would use a web forum like FV as a source of the 'truth'"
You should be ashamed of yourself, Brian.
"he's not making liqueur, he's making liquor."
Where is he making liquor and under which authority's say so? You do not seem willing to answer that point.
Fee Verte is "The Oldest, Largest, Most Visited Absinthe Site. Established 1997"
"Some of the biggest names in the world of absinthe - authors, historians, distillers, distributors - gather here, as well as absinthe amateurs and enthusiasts from all over the world"
I think I was misunderstood. I may not have described what I was trying to say well enough.
Fee Verte has an unbelievable wealth of factual information about absinthe. That is absolutely true. It by far is one of the best resources for absinthe I have ever seen.
Specifically what I was talking about was some of the threads. More to the point, I was talking about the thread about Marteau. Lots of people were throwing around accusations about what Hiram was doing without really knowing anything about the real situation. They were making insinuations.
So, to conclude, I never meant to say that the information sections of FV were anything but accurate and extremely helpful for anyone who wants to know anything about absinthe. Oxy has done a heroic job of compiling information. Again, I was specifically talking about some of the threads, which anyone would admit, aren't really regulated against disinformation about people.
Actually, now going back and re-reading what I posted. I CERTAINLY didn't explain it well enough. My apologies.
"Where is he making liquor and under which authority's say so? You do not seem willing to answer that point."
Um, self admittedly with his little $20 chemist permit.
Where did he admit that?
"So, to conclude, I never meant to say that the information sections of FV were anything but accurate and extremely helpful for anyone who wants to know anything about absinthe. Oxy has done a heroic job of compiling information. Again, I was specifically talking about some of the threads, which anyone would admit, aren't really regulated against disinformation about people."
No we don't "regulate against disinformation" - to do so would involve the admins editing, amending or censoring posts, and except in a tiny handful of extreme cases we've never done that at Fee Verte.
Agreed. Most of the time it's friendly banter, regardless. But some people, who may not be familiar with the site might not take those comments for what they really are.
"It's amazing that someone who calls themselves a journalist would use a web forum like FV as a source of the 'truth'"
I suggest that you look at the issues raised in that thread you criticise by well known and respected absinthe figures. It is true that there is some nonsense there too, but it is a red herring to suggest that this is the main argument of the thread, and should be ignored.
I quote some of them below - together with a link to the original thread - this is blogcritics.org, so perhaps you can shine some light on this matter which was originally brought to the attention of the world by the spirtitsandcocktails.com blogger.
There are important issues here, and it would seem that Hiram is confirming that his absinthe is legally produced under Washington state legislation. I think that it is appropriate that he now explains this further.
Link to Fee Verte forum page
Oxygenee: I'm surprised that anyone would admit publicly to effectively having committed a felony in their own publicity release.
Oxygenee: Operating a still without a license in the US is a felony. "Swapping" samples with other HGer's would compound the situation, because you're exchanging your output for value. Using the US Mail to make these swaps would add the possibiity of mail fraud charges. Serving HG, or allowing it to be served with a nod and a wink at any function for which you've in any way charged an admission fee would likewise exacerbate the situation.
There seems to be a widely held assumption here that all this can be ignored because:
a. this is a victimless crime
b. alcohol is being redistilled, not created from a mash, so it's only a "technical" violation.
c. the whole thing is too trivial for anyone in law enforcement to bother with.
d. the recent partial legalisation of absinthe in the US means that admissions of past HG activity can be made quite safely.
I'd strongly advise against making this assumption, and my guess is that many people who made similar assumptions in other fields are currently sitting in state and federal penitentiaries.
I live outside the US, am not a US citizen, and am not an HGer, so in a sense this isn't my problem. But it seems to me that in recent months all sense of discretion and confidentiality has been abandoned by some US-based HGers. Making it clear explicitly or implicity that you've broken any US law, no matter how trivial, on a public forum or blog is, in my opinion, extremely misguided, especially in the current socio-political climate. I think those who do so are placing both themselves and their friends in jeopardy.
Donny Darko: The originator of Marteau was foolish to admit he was a home distiller, especially since his product isn't even on shelves yet, and what he's admitted to doing places him in greater legal jeopardy than anyone illegally exporting absinthe into the US.
Wild Bill Turkey: Actually, Hiram's comments on that thread state pretty clearly that this began as an HG.
Hiram: Are you aware of the licensing options in the US? How about Washington state? Guess not. I find it interesting that rather than step in to moderate assumptions and accusations which present a very real threat to my security, privacy and livlihood pending the facts, you chose instead to stoke the fire.
I agree Sage. There are some very important points and concerns made known in that thread. That wasn't what I was trying to say.
I also wasn't saying the main jist of that thread should be ignored.
The point I was trying to get across was that most of what was posted in that thread were concerns that were brought up based on assumptions, not actual fact. I don't presume to say I know the whole truth, but it also seemed that many people who were making comments also didn't know the whole truth.
I'm not here to bash FV, nor to argue the points of the thread. Those arguments can be made there.
My original points still stand that someone reading through that thread COULD come away with some good information, but could also come away with a lot of misinformation that hasn't been cleared up yet. Some of that misinformation has been referenced here.
If people are calling for him to explain further, then maybe we should reference another thread and demand that Markus explain further his coloring methods. Think that will be done any time soon?
'Tis all.
B said, "I'm not here to bash FV, nor to argue the points of the thread."
Well, brothers and sisters, I am. That thread at FV was nothing but a thinly disguised rant by people looking for an excuse to rant. Why else would they put their comments in the light they did?
Look, if you're Catholic and want to believe the Pope, that's your business. But at either of those two web forums, FV or WS, all you need to do is spend the requisite amount of time to learn the difference between facts, opinion, rhetoric, and trash. Its all there, and both sites have loads of useful information if you can read through the dueling agendas.
Rant? Not sure about that: Allegedly transporting and serving any homemade liquor to 150 members of the public is deadly serious.
Anyone that does this is jeopardising the work already done with the FDA and ATF in getting absinthe LEGALLY available.
will absinthe make you pop on a drug test?
Tell that to La Fee, who had an entire room open to the public where they were giving samples of their entire line. They also continued to say that absinthe 'makes you go crazy', so I guess that makes them extra cool.
Also tell that to the several bars in New Orleans and New York City that serve Jade products to the public for $15 a glass or so.
Everyone at the TotC that was given samples of the product was informed that what they were tasting was produced legally. Anything else is exactly what you called it, an allegation.
And no, it won't make you 'pop' on a drug test. Nothing about absinthe is considered a drug or controlled substance in the eyes of ANY tester.
Jeez, are you guys still at it? This must really be burning you up. You have to love Tabloid Internet. Give up the puppet show gang, before you make worse fools of yourselves.
The Marteau in NOLA was a prototype, just like the other prototypes many of you have had: it was Prototype 33. I would have thought my use of the term "prototype" would have been enough of a tip-off for the regulars, but I guess not. Markus can confirm this and a number of other trusted WS people knew about it as well.
I had Markus release it anonymously so that I could get relatively unbiased input. "Stein, Matter & Lion". Stein? Stone? Get it? I guess not.
This is a business, and obviously a very competitive one at the moment. I don't owe information or explanations to anyone here. I'm not obligated to broadcast my plans or means, and I'm certainly not going to waste any more of my time here.
Jamie misunderstood my remarks about the bottles in question, it's that simple.
Some of you apparently also misunderstood my comments, as well as my intentions.
-"experimentation was done under a full moon, with a single hidden still"
-"now that the government has started to allow absinthe... legally, this individual has gone to... Switzerland to have it distilled in a larger, more commercial facility than... his house"
-"Hiram has been making absinthe for years using a loophole in Washington laws:
Washington also has a Chemist Distiller's permit for only $20 a year, available to commercial chemists and developers who are not manufacturing spirits for sale"
-"Donny Darko: The originator of Marteau was foolish to admit he was a home distiller...
Wild Bill Turkey: Actually, Hiram's comments on that thread state pretty clearly that this began as an HG."
Yep, I can see how this is so easily misunderstood. It's just so vague.
So it was distlled in the USA or Switzerland? Easy enough question to answer, I would have thought!
Well, Hiram? Where was it distilled? What it said on the bottle used at NOLA? No problem then, as Oliver Matter has the paperwork in Kallnach! End of problem. USA? as was originally reported by Jamie's blog? Beginning of problem, for everyone.
You are highy irresponsible, and I sorry to say that you seem to have a very cavalier attitude towards the law.
>Tell that to La Fee, who had an entire room open to the public where they were giving samples of their entire line. They also continued to say that absinthe 'makes you go crazy', so I guess that makes them extra cool.
Sorry Brian your pont is? La Fee are a legally arranged and regulated alcohol brand, and have been so for many years.
So, La Fee absinthes are legal in the states then? That's news to me. Where's that information?
What part of "My absinthe is being distilled in Switzerland at a legal distillery" do you not understand?
Was it the part where I said: "The Marteau in NOLA was a prototype, just like the other prototypes many of you have had: it was Prototype 33... Markus can confirm this" that threw you off?
Read the words. Distilled in Switzerland. Legally. Commercially released by Markus as Prototype 33 several months ago. Released as Marteau Verte Classique in the near future. Of course Oliver has the paperwork; not that it's any of your business.
"Beginning of problem, for everyone."
Oh really? Who is everyone? You? I'm not sure I get your drift. How could this be a problem for anyone but me? Who is it a problem for?
"You are highy irresponsible, and I sorry to say that you seem to have a very cavalier attitude towards the law."
And you seem to have a cavalier attitude towards the truth. What's irresponsible is using this venue to anonymously vent your personal grudge against me and libeling me with false accusations.
The beginning of the problem was, as I have stated, several misunderstandings. First, Jamie misunderstood the background of his sample; then you lot misunderstood his post to be an intentional announcement on my behalf. Had I known about his post, I would have corrected his errors beforehand. As it was, I thought it was a nice write-up and I said so; I also made several clarifications. That should have been the end of it.
You guys are wrong. Get over it. The horse is dead.
As the Comments Editor for the site, I have decided it is time to draw a line under this exceedingly boring and pointless argument. I am going to delete any further comments that keep on going over the same ground. I may never drink Absinthe again!
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re: #20, Bob A Booey. Have you been drinking again? The most dangerous drug of them all.
hhhmmm...Absinthe. I don't like alcohol at all. But the euphoric hallucinigen? Cool. The thujone part sounds good. Properly prepared?
Although, 160 proof alcohol? That could be part of the deal. One time about 30 years ago i got to drink one big shot (Texas Leaguer shot) of actual moonshine (near Chillecothe, Ohio). OH MAN!!! that stuff hits you like a drug. I might as well have been on acid! That intensity of alcohol hits you a bit differently than lower proofs.
Ugh! drug talk. But, is good ol' LSD 25 around anymore?
be healthy,
DM








I had some at a party where we watched Moulin Rouge. Euphoric and slightly hallucinogenic, but it needs to be prepared right.