Blogcritics: Comments on Rich Man, Poor Man: Ain't Life Grand?

Comment by Scott

Fri, 2 Sep 2005 02:00:49 EDT

Whatever Dave.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:08:31 EDT

No, my point is that they probably increased slightly in income, but the poverty level also went up. Dave

Comment by Scott

Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:01:55 EDT

And so, your point is people who "slip" into poverty aren't really in poverty at all?

Comment by Dave Nalle

Fri, 2 Sep 2005 00:25:00 EDT

Did you read the part where the increase in the official poverty level more than accounts for the number of people who 'slipped' into poverty? Dave

Comment by Scott

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 23:55:29 EDT

Nalle: "I believe that if you look at the actual numbers, broken down by economic sector you'll find that ALL income groups have become richer in the past year, but that the numerical increase is higher in higher income groups because they have a higher base level of wealth in the first place. As I recall the percentage increase is actually highest in the middle income groups" This article says: "Family income stagnated last year and more Americans slipped into poverty, the Census Bureau said Tuesday in a report that raised questions about which Americans were enjoying the fruits of an economic expansion that began in 2001. It was the fourth straight year that the report found an increase in the U.S. poverty rate." Interesting. Read the data and make the necessary conclusions, I guess.

Comment by Hal Pawluk

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:44:09 EDT

No, Dave. Your beliefs have no effect on the facts.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:30:31 EDT

Nancy, I just read the data and come up with conclusions. It's not hard to do. You could do it to if you had any interest in the truth rather than your ongoing hatefest. Dave

Comment by Nancy

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:27:34 EDT

Because you keep mouthing his Little Mary Sunshine bullshit about how the economy is just peachy, we're all doing fine, and completely ignoring information/reality checks like the ABOVE (hint hint - READ IT, dammit) which present data from the most neutral experts available (who know a hell of a lot more about it than you do, altho you won't admit it) that the ONLY ones gaining are the ultra rich and big business. Wake up & smell the coffee grounds ... or the oil slops, more realistically.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:20:53 EDT

Nancy, what the hell does Bush have to do with anything? He's achieved near total irrelevancy. Dave

Comment by Natalie Davis

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:15:48 EDT

If there are real gains, Katrina will take care of them.

Comment by Nancy

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:09:46 EDT

Dave, you just aren't going to face reality until and unless BushCo makes an official pronouncement on this, are you?

Comment by Dave Nalle

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:28:54 EDT

I do have to say that when I had illegals do my drywall they did a better job, cheaper and faster than the anglo guys I had do drywall in my old house. Dave

Comment by Eric Olsen

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:26:30 EDT

Hal's back! Hi Hal, welcome

Comment by John Bill

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:07:22 EDT

Thats the Walmart economy for you. Illegals and outsourcing are the real problem. Take drywalling for example, it used pay about $22/hr plus benefits. Now it is mostly illegals doing it and for maybe $10/hr cash no benefits or taxes.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:59:13 EDT

I believe that if you look at the actual numbers, broken down by economic sector you'll find that ALL income groups have become richer in the past year, but that the numerical increase is higher in higher income groups because they have a higher base level of wealth in the first place. As I recall the percentage increase is actually highest in the middle income groups. Dave