Crooks - Trade your Gun or Knife for a Phone
Published August 26, 2005
During the past 2 months I have received approximately 10 calls from the same phone number to my cell phone. Each caller advised me that he or she was calling about my American Express Account ending in 000. Since I consider myself to be pretty savvy I knew that American Express did not make such calls and that these calls were bogus. My cell phone recorded the calls as coming from 727-541-0001. Naturally I refused to give the callers any information and in fact I tried to get information from them, to no avail. They just hung up. I also called them back on the number they called from immediately after the call ended. Each time I received a recorded message that the number was disconnected.
I went to the American Express Web Site to search for a place to report these calls. The closest I could come was a link asking cardholders to report internet phishing, but no link for reporting phishing phone calls. So I reported it on the internet phishing link and then to my amazement I received a phone call from American Express telling me that I was reporting this to the wrong department. When I asked them to transfer me or direct me to the right department, one perhaps that might be investigating these phony calls, I was told they did not have one! I then tried calling the American Express Executive Offices in New York to report the calls and ask them why they didn't have someone tracking down these crooks. I called 3 times and could never get past the operator. Each time she kept telling me that she could not put me through unless she knew what the call was about. Whenever I mentioned the word card she transferred me to the credit card center where they handle general calls such as getting a credit card, canceling a credit card or making a payment.
Then I got a brilliant idea. I went to the FBI web site where I found a place to report a tip about a crime, or at least that's what I thought. So I reported the phone calls and left the phone number each of the phony calls were made from. Within one minute after sending my tip I received a call back from THE FBI! They wanted me to know that the tip form I had used was to report terrorists, not credit card crooks. But they were very nice and we had a good discussion during which I learned two very interesting things. First, that they could not find the crooks from the phone number I gave them. They said it was not as simple as it looks on TV. Second, that unless I actually lost money to the crooks they, nor any other law enforcement agency, could investigate. I had to lose money first. When I asked how much, I was told a minimum of $25,000.
So, if you are an old fashioned crook still using guns or knives, or if you are just breaking into homes and businesses, stop! Do not put yourself at risk. The police and FBI may chase after you. Play it safe. Pick up the phone and call strangers and ask them to give you their credit card or other financial information. To increase your odds of success buy a list of elderly peoples phone numbers. You can get these from list brokers for less than a penny per name. But be careful; don't take more than $25,000 from each person you call!
- Crooks - Trade your Gun or Knife for a Phone
- Published: August 26, 2005
- Type: Opinion
- Section: Culture
- Filed Under: Culture: Business and Economics, Culture: Society
- Writer: Bob Greenspan
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Thanks. I was just trying to protect the next guy but these companies don't seem to care. In fact I was asked by AMEX if I wanted them to issue me a new card. They missed the point completely. Also, have you ever noticed that since the advent of the Internet and companies posting their Home Page with all their info etc. the one thing you won't find listed is a phone number, except perhaps to Customer Service. But just try and find a Corporate Headquarters address and phone number. You can't. Not even for Google or Yahoo!
"But just try and find a Corporate Headquarters address and phone number."
Dead on Bob. Great post btw. As recently as two months ago I could call Capitol One about my credit card and eventually get through to a real live person, granted it was a very nice person in India, but it WAS a person.
That is no longer an option. It's all phone menu, automated response, nobody really works here, and you're fucked if you need to speak to a live person!
"Please send an email and we will respond within 72 hours....."
Hell. Handbasket.
I am getting the same calls. Probably 30 to 40 from the same number so far. 727-541-0001. Total scam. jebapafu at yahoo.com
Me to, same number. They accurately gave me the last 4 digits of my VISA card and wanted to send a $1000 gift certificate. I hang up and call back with the same results.
Just got a call on my cell phone from the same number. I called it back, it rang twice, then the message said it was disconected. Maybe the FCC can get them for transmitting an incorrect identifying number, probably a $50.00 fine or some crap.
Damn it, they just called again... I just don't answer anymore. The guy was really aggressive the last time.. Told him I wasn't interested and he says "I'm sure you got 8 bucks in your checking account..." WTF!! Why do I need to spend a couple dollars for $1000-whatever certificate when I didn't understand a damn thing said in the first place.. Scary! Can we sue them! ---- Great post btw!
Is this an exchange program? Can I exchange my old phones for guns? I'll gladly do 2 for 1.
Dave
Yeah.. I got the call one day last week on my cell phone, and I just received it again seconds ago..They don't leave messages, and when you try to call back it says it's disconnected...
Are we all getting these calls on cell phones here?!
I googled a phone number that keeps calling my cell number and never leaves a message (as a rule, I don't answer my cell unless I know who is calling)...and lo and behold! came to this site. Guess which number keeps calling me...same one. I haven't answered it yet. Glad I didn't. I'm going to call the cell phone company and report the abuse. Is there a way to block callers from my cell phone? I'm in MO, by the way.
Thanks for all the comments. The real problem is that we are too soft on crime. We need to start caning people in public like they do in Singapore. Lets start with these jackasses who keep calling us about our credit cards. I will volunteer to do the caning. Is 50 lashes OK or is that too little!
I got two calls today on my work phone here in Los Angeles from the same number, one this morning and the other this afternoon. Luckily I have caller ID here at work; I don't pick up the phone unless it's a number I recognize. Someone hunt down these jerks and put them out of their misery.
I keep getting these BS calls too. I called verizon and apparently they cannot block a number to your phone. She did tell me to sign up on http://www.donotcall.gov and they are required, by law, to stop calling. I'd recommend that.
ive been on the do not call list for over 4 months now and i am still recieving calls from those assholes. can anyone tell me what i can do to get them to stop?
They are still calling...I am to the point that I enjoy messing with them now. They called this morning...just like clock-work. Number on caller ID [edited]. I have got a connection now. Two days ago they called me on my cellphone and claimed to be Consumer Innovations. This company admitted that they offer card holders a $125.00 in gas, so, in my mind there is a connection. The company also admitted that they use telemarketing companies to do their cold calls. Here is the information I have: [edited] Also their website: consumerinnovations.com. Their corporate telephone #'s
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I hope this information helps someone. I will continue to answer my phone and continue to collect information until I have enough to go to the appropriate authorities.
Yes it would appear they are all to cell phones. I started receiving them Thurs. night 9/8/05. I'm in Minnesota. Only thing I could find on it is that it originates in the City of Pinellas Park, FL. Like many of you I haven't answered yet, but knowing what I do now I may next time. Maybe try to get them at their own game. "So where in Pinellas Park are you located......."
Ok, I'm a little shaky, I've never been such an @$$ on the phone before, but here's what happened. They called AGAIN this morning and this is what I got from the guy!! This could all be lies as I imagine it all is... The guy I talked to said his name was Kevin Ross, I asked for some contact info and he gave me the customer service phone 800-858-4838 and a PO Box in St Petersburg, FL "PO Box 7375, St Petersburg, FL 33702". I googled the number and I find it linked to a company called "Traveler Innovations" Interestingly, theres this link http://ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff148281.htm and its not pretty... They rip people off!! These are bad people, be careful! After the guy told me all this info, I told him to take me off his list, and he literally scolded me for having an alterior motive like I was a little kid or something. I told him not to sass me and again to take me off his list. He said he would do so. We'll just see if this really happens or not!
they keep calling me as well....
I've just started getting calls from that number, I haven't awnsered any of the calls. and when I call the number back I get the disconected number crap.
they are calling me in mississippi
I am in Texas. Over the past two weeks I received the same calls to my cell phone from this number. The fist time I picked up I spoke with them They had the last 4 digits of my credit card, my address, and stated they were from Visa. I told them never to call me and I was not interested. They have been calling 3-4 times per day.
This morning I picked up an anonomous call and it was them. They wanted to send me a $150 gas card and then wanted a few dollars to process the shipping. I told them that I had talked to the bank and that my credit card was cancelled. They said my card was still active (which it was at that momement (scary or lucky guess)- which have been now). I told them they had no authorization to contact me and Steve, the representative, said they were Visa and did not need the bank's permission.
My bank called the number and they received the same disconnected message.
Something really needs to be done. I am pulling my credit reports today and I have heard there is a way to secure them from a friend that had their identity stolen- so that is next.
I can't believe that I posted this story a month ago and I am still getting comments on it.
Not surprised they are using the Visa cards now. I don't think we have much to worry about. If they had the info they really needed like the full Card number and our expiration dates and our Social Security Numbers and Date of Birth they wouldn't be calling us. They would be using the cards for cash advances or merchandise purchases.
Ok Google got me here, I'm in Hawaii, and these calls just started yesterday. They're pretty persistant. Called every hour (per my missed call list) I noticed they only call cell phones, Is there a connection?
I got several calls from them. The first time, I had a bad feeling as the background noise was deafening and the people talked WAY too fast. It wasn't until they were trying to get my information that I actually got them to repeat themselves loudly and slowly. I asked who their affiliates were (since this was supposedly how they got my info to begin with), and when I was told they had an enormous list, I grew very wise and told them I wasn't interested (very luckily before I gave them my information!).
The next time they called, I told them I had to blow them off since I had 10 things going on at once. Go me! Now I've registered with Do Not Call, as posted above somewhere, and the only thing as bad as receiving a call from a telemarketer is having to wait 31 DAYS!!! before it becomes illegal for them to call me again! That sucks! I hope they do it so I can complain.
Do you really think these crooks are going to stop calling you or anyone else because you are on the Do Not Call List? The definition of a crook or thief is a person who intentionally violates the law in order to obtain a monetary reward from his victims. They are going to continue making these calls until they get caught or until the monetary gain is not worth their time or they run out of victims. At that point they will move on to a different and more lucrative scam.
I have other avenues to work with. Aside from Rip-Off Report, I'm also going to be contacting the Office of Consumer Affairs if these people don't stop. If they want to keep on me, I'll keep on them! It should provide some amusement.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION!!!
I figure I'll throw this in to help with the information gathering. I've run some basic searches for Consumer Innovations, and have come up with a physical address and a phone number! I don't know the specfics about what the number s for, but I'm assuming it's the office number that we're suppose to be seeing on our caller ID and ain't. Here we go!
Consumer Innovations
7330 North 16th Street
Phoenix, AZ 85020
(602) 271-0411
I've run an all-state search to be sure there are no others, and there ain't--this is the only one I could find. Also, I got no search results at all for Traveler Innovations. Don't know wha tthat means, exactly. Dummy corporation, maybe?
Well for the past 3 days i have gotten about 35 calls from this phone,, i never answer phone numbers that i dont recognize, but it was funny that when i called the number back it would say its disconnected, now to mess with them i pick up but dont say anything, funny thing is that the guy new my name and kept saying it but i just hung up..from now on i will play their game and give them bogus info.
I have been getting this calls for about 2 weeks. I have probably gotten around 30 or so. When the call however, they are asking for my bf. I try and ask them what the call is regarding and they say that they will only explain the reason for calling to Josh. I tell them not to call again and they hang up on more. Then they call again later. Eackh time I've talked to someone different and they are very aggressive and assertive. I am going to try something the next time they call. If it works I will be sure to let you all know. I am terrified and annoyed that they could possibly get more of my personal information.
Yeah, I've been getting these calls the last few days, they've been hanging up when they get my voice mail. When I do answer it, most of the time I just hear really loud background noise and then nothing.
This morning though it was a female operator and she asked for me by name. When I asked who this was they just hung up.
Anyone feel like starting a class action harrassment lawsuit?
I just found this site when doing my own research on the 727-541-0001 number. The person on the phone asked for me by name, then said they were from my Visa card and that I was to recieve a $150 gas card and $200 in Walmart gift cards. Knowing I had never gave my Visa card my cell number, I knew it was a scam so I asked what card it was they were from and they said "the one that wants to send you a free gas card". This made me fell better as they dont know what bank issued my card, so I told the guy I knew it was a scam if he dient know my card was from BankOne and hung-up. LOL My card isint from BankOne but figured if they took notes why not have some fun and send them on a goose hunt
Add another to the pile. They've been calling me for weeks now, 4 or 5 times a day. After the first week, I decided to pick up (I, like many of you, don't answer numbers I don't recognize) and tell them to stop calling.
So I picked up, heard the deafening background noise, and then they hung up on me. This continued for three(!) more weeks, each time, I'd hear the crowd and then *click*
So today they called, again I answered, again I heard the background noise and I sat there. After about 30 seconds, a woman asked for me by name...finally! The rest of the story is like the rest of you -- Visa, gascards, blah, blah. Luckily, I'd Googled the number a couple weeks ago and read this page, so I knew what to expect.
I interrupted her, said I'm not interested, stop calling me, take me off your list, I know this is a scam, etc. She replied by asking "So you don't even want to hear what I have to say?"
"Nope."
"Your loss, stupid." *click*
Damn -- not only are they crooks, they're rude crooks to boot!
I just recently started getting those calls. They are getting on my nerves. This is the first time I got one where they person actually started talking, but its still the same phone number: 727-541-0001. When she started talking, she talked to me like I knew her. She was quick to say my name.
Same crap. It just started three days ago. I do not let them start talking. I tell them to place me on their do-not-call list and hang up. they call everyday and I tell them the same thing. Today, I cussed them out and then hung up on them. Tomorrow, it will get real ugly when I go up their ass sideways. I contacted the F.C.C. and also the Attorney General. That was a real JOKE. Their as bad as these assholes that keep calling. They can't do anything because my phone has not been listed on the do-not-call list for 30 days and they need an actual address. I guess I'll just keep cussing at these little bastards until it stops. I am also having Verison remove all charges on my bill from this number.
Ok so they called again yesterday and when I told them to stop callimg me they actually said "where the "F**K is your head at lady". I told them I was on the governments do not call list and that if they call again I will contact the FTC. They told me to go ahead...so I did. The FTC has a report on file but they need to see a pattern in the calls before it can be further investigated. So I ask everyone please call and file a report. Hopefully that way something will be done about these a**holes. FTC number : 877-382-4357. If they keep calling I will try and take further action by going to the local news call for action station. They love stuff like this. Thanks
Your government dollars at work. Sometimes I think the bureaucratic stupidity is as criminal as the scammers. You might try getting a whistle (the kind a coach uses for gym) & blowing it hard the next time they call. I wonder why they bother to keep calling if they know the owner of that particular number is "on" to them? To keep calling the same number over & over ... do they think you're going to change your mind? I hope you can get them - or at least get the FTC/FCC/FBI whoever to finally move on this. Have you tried calling the phone company & filing a harrassment complaint or getting that number blocked? I've never had to do that myself, but I've heard others talk about it.
I'm still getting calls. Last friday, they called and the guy claimed he was from visa. He had the last 4 digits of my card #. I told him he wa slying and didnt work for visa. He started to get pushy. I told him I read all about them online, they said I didnt know what I was talking about. I told them never to call again. They've called 8 times since...
I'm getting this call also, but they always just hang up... however, I answer my work cell as "Hello, this is Mike." Once, I just said Hello, and he said something I didn't understand. When I asked him to repeat, he just hung up.
INFORMATION about credit cards, the last 4 digits of your card are displayed on ALL store purchase receipts along with your name, so garbage divers can then also look up your cell number and have that info. Also possible, but very unlikely, if you bank online, the last four digits of your credit cards are displayed on your account splash screen, which is NOT encrypted by the bank (BankOne), i.e. Somebody with ISP connections 'could' be capturing that information from the network... including your name. This would require somebody that works for comcast or whoever hour provider is to do this.. Last four digits of a credit card means NOTHING...
P.S. I thought if you could find out who these people are, you can actually 'bill' them for your expenses (minutes) when they call cell phones like this?
UPDATE: Just got called again. Talked to a girl this time. She was trying to see if my daughter-in-law wanted to sell her timeshare. She doesn't own one. Anyway, the company was TimeShare Associates, and the # she gave as callback was 800 303-0583 and name was Kara Jones.. yeah right. Looks like multiple companies are using this fake callerID #. Isn't that a federal offense to not send the correct callerid#?
Hey guys, I just today got a call from the same number (727-541-0001). After searching a bit, i found this page, and i also managed to find out that the number shows up as being in St. Petersburg, FL.
It started 2 day ago and like all of you I don't pick up. I live in California.
I GOT A CALL FROM 727 541 0001 TOO. I believed that the call was indeed from my Mastercard company and gave the caller my address.
The caller said he was sending me gifts from Mastercard: some gift certificate from Walmart and some sort of gift card for gasoline.
In the end, I refused the offer. I wonder if the gift certificates would have actually come through.
I am worried that someone can get my name and telephone number, ask my address over the phone and have a 727 541 0001 number that is disconnected.
possibilities: I checked my credit report from Experian about 2 months ago. The report said that a marketing company in Florida had checked my credit history. I looked up the company on google and found a blog page discussing the telephone marketing company's brute tactics in selling magazine subscriptions over the phone. I regret that I no longer have the name of this telephone marketing company that showed up on my credit report. It could be related to this 727 541 0001 number. If others who get the 727 call check their credit history and find a common record of the same marketing company checking financial history details (including names and credit card numbers).... then... we've found the identity who's been calling. its at least a remote possibility.
regarding my previous theory: I didn't neccesarily find the name of the Florida Telephone marketing company on EXPERIAN. There are 3 credit report companies and each seem to have slightly different records. I got my credit report here...
I forget if I checked Experian,TransUnion, or Equifax.
I found this site through Google. I have been having the same calls. Ditto on everything said. I want to see this put to an end.
I work for a business in Dayton, Ohio. I have been getting calls for my boss. They don't get through. I did get some useful information from the comments and have filed a complaint with the FCC. I suppose that if enough of you out there also file a complaint, maybe something can be done about it. I really seems funny that the calls cannot be traced. They surely found all of us. Wonder which search engine they used?
I have had this number 727-541-0001 call me twice in the last 2 days. I typed the number in the google search and found this page. I am shocked! I have had people trying to steal my ebay acct, and order 2000.00 worth of Mary Kay from me and try to pay with a stolen credit card. Why are some of us targeted and will it stop if I put a tellemarketer block on my phone?Also, how can my caller ID say they are calling from this number, but yet I cant reach them at this number? This is getting freaky. Thanks in advance for any info you have, and have a great day.
Heather
Just thought I would add to my post earlier. They called again on an 866 number. My son answered, they asked for me, when I picked up the phone it was dead.
I hung up and guess what it rang again from number (727)541-0001. After reading your posts, I decided to hear what they had to say. Her name was Joan and she called me by my first name.
She said she was doing some promotional thing with Visa and if I would agree to look over it, I would get 150.00 gas card and 2 gift cards for Walmart, forgot how much she said those were though.
I listened and just kept saying Mmm, Ok etc... then she asked me if I wanted to do this, I said sure. She said Ok, I am going to tape this part of our conversation, and get my supervisor on the line Ok? I agreed, then she said Ok, I am going to give you a 4 digit confirmation number, and you need to write it down b/c when we are taping you will need to confirm this number by telling me what it is Ok?
I said Ok, then she said here it is ####. I ALMOST THREW UP!!!! The 4 digit # was the last 4 numbers of my Visa check card. Then I said hello, hello are you there, I cant hear you, hello, then I said Hmmm I wonder why she hung up on me............. then I hung up!!!!
Someone with a blocked phone number has called every half hour or so since, and they never answer. Also I wanted to mention I am receiving these calls to my home number not my cell. I also have a list of numbers that I believe are linked to these. You can find all of them via google.
Here they are.......800-858-4838/ 866-655-7366/ (800-594-5868/ 800-514-8345) those last 2 have same website, but different names and numbers. And last but not least 514-958-0000, very interesting, check them out and if you figure something out please let me know. Thanks
Thats some good info Heather. I got my first two calls today and Im sure Il get some more. Im going to my state's attorney general. Let take these dirty bastards down.
I am in Minnesota and am getting these calls constantly. If anyone finds out who is behind the calls lets go and form an angry mob to burn that person alive.
We have just reached the 50 Comment Level on my original post and I thank you all. I read every comment that is posted. I do however believe that a lot of you simply don't understand what is going on. You keep saying things like "I'm going to report the callers to the FCC" or "I'm going to put them on my do not call list", etc. Folks, forget about all this stuff. We are dealing with CROOKS, CRIMINALS, BAD GUYS, CON MEN. They don't give a rat's ass about you turning them in to the FCC, the FBI, your local Police Department or putting them on your DO NOT CALL LIST! They have figured out a way to make these calls without being detected. My guess is that they are making the calls from overseas and probably from a computer and not over regular phone lines. So, short of someone snitching them out or some super duper sleuthing by one of you computer geniuses who can figure out their location, all you can do is slam the phone down or blow a whistle into the phone to try and break their ear drums or play some other game with the caller. But they are NOT going to stop calling until some cop kicks in their door and puts them in handcuffs!
A friend of mine got a call from this number yesterday and agreed to the deal that he was offered. I thought it sounded it like a scam. After seeing everything that you guys have posted, I a question. Does he have to worry about identity theft, or is this just a scam to some money out of him?
I started getting the call last night. It was a man claiming to be from MasterCard and was offering the gas card because I was such a good customer. He was very nice and polite. He told me he was going to be sending information to house (which he had the address for) and that I could cancel it at anytime; you guys know the story. Here is the weird thing, my cell phone is not under my name it is under my stepdads. Even if they did get my name and address through the card # or whatever they still couldn't have gotten my cell phone number because there are 3 names on the account with 3 numbers and they wouldn't have known which is which. So I am wondering this, could I have entered my cell phone number with some other information on a web site that they either hacked or set up? I really really wish I could find these people but for now I will stick to playing games with them.
I started getting these calls on my cell early last week, about November 7th or 8th. They average about 5 per day, starting in the morning when I get to work and go on until the evening. 727-541-0001 every time, they never leave a message. I live in Louisiana. They have never called earlier than about 9:00 am and never later than about 9:00 pm.
One thing I found interesting is that the calls stopped over the weekend so I thought they had given up, but now it's Monday morning and I just got one. These guys seem to follow a Monday thru Friday daytime schedule, as least the ones calling me.
I'm pretty surprised this has gone on this long without anyone being able to investigate it.
I'm up here in Seattle and keep getting these phone calls about 1 per day. Also getting them on the weekends. I'm going to block these calls using my cell phone company. Thanks for having this blog out there! Have a great day-
Yea, i also noticed that i didnt get any calls from them over the weekend either. I have NEVER once even answered a call from them, since i dont answer if i dont know who is calling. So i usually just google the number. At first, I received as many as 5 calls per day, then after about 2 weeks, i kept getting less calls each day. Now, i have usually been getting only 1 call a day, if that. Im hoping that if i still do not answer, maybe they will just stop calling completly.
Oh, one other thing. maybe someone that has actually talked to these people, and gave them information could check out this site: http://www.fraud.org/ file a complaint and see if that helps
866-655-7366 - This number has been calling my cell everyday for the past month or so. Everytime we answer they hang up. Once my husband actually had someone say hello and he told them to take us off their list, that we're sick of them calling etc...They STILL call. A few months ago I was victim to identity theft and I had to switch bank accounts, flag my credit and everything and those ppl had gotten me on my home phone. I guess there's nothing we can do, but it's really stressful having to worry that I might have to go through all of that mess agian.
My wife tried ordering some items from online, and now has started receiving these calls on her cell phone from the number as written so many times hereon (727) 541-0001. The first call sounded as if there was a crowd in the background, then sounded like someone breathing heavy (Sort of disgusting in nature). She has now recieved these calls on Saturday, so don't think that they do not call on weekends. We have reported this to the internet fraud, our cell phone provider (Who said that they cannot do anything for us to block the number). I will be contacting the Florida Attorney General regarding this issue and who ever else I can think of to have this stopped. Surely somebody knows how to get this stopped. I am surprised by the FBI comment above. What the hell are we paying taxes for? We will post more, if we find a definate answer to this problem. Kansas City
Bob
I have had a similar experience with this phone number (727-541-0001). I ordered some medicine off the internet (with a perscription, so I assumed it was a valid website) and never received anything..stupid me!! Anyway the site was called frontier pharmacies. (it has since been shut down, thankfully!) I reported them to the internet fraud. Anyway, I called my bank and they gave me the phone number they had for the company called "BFL pay": 866-220-0556. I called the number and what seemed to be a hispanic woman, answered.(I could barely understand her.) I proceeded to ask about my order, and she hung up on me. I called back, she put me on hold and hung up again. The address I have, which is probably bogus, is: 1940 3-n Commerce Pkwy, Weston, Fl. Fortunately I caught the scam in time and had my bank stop payment. Now, I am receiving these obsene phone calls and hang ups from this 727-541-0001. I can't prove the two are related, but they have to be connected. Hope this helps in some way.
ATTENTION!!!GOOD INFORMATION!! I received two more calls today. One at 9:30 am and again at 1:03 pm. I answered the second call and a woman tried the gas card scam...I am such a good visa customer, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, I asked if this was my "visa company" why have I received obsene phone calls from this number? I proceeded to tell her someone had called me from this 727-541-0001 number (the same number she was calling me from) and was heavy breathing into my phone, and she stammered and said it must have been their computer who called me, and it had a bad connection. BS! ( I have this obsense call and breathing on my voicemail) I know heavy breathing from a human when I hear it! I told her I knew she was calling from a fraudulant business and she obnoxiously argued with me and said "no this is a perfectly legit company". After arguing back and forth I told her not to call me again, and she still tried to get me to buy into their scam!!!! These people are CRAZY!!! I know for a fact that the owner from the bogus website I ordered medication from is connected to this number. His name is George Jorge Gonzalez. He has been running credit card/gas card scams and bogus discount pharmacy websites. The number I have for him is 866-384-0667 and 866-220-0556. I also know through my bank that this "BFL PAY", the "frontier pharmacy company" I was scammed from, originates in India. ( Google "BFL pay" and search to find out more ). I am trying to bring a law suit against these people, I honestly think he is involved with this 727 number, along with others, and I am continually searching for more information. Please let me know if anyone else has any info. Good luck to all, and lets catch this SOB!!! Thanks for posting your letter Bob G., that is how I have put a connection between my pharmacy scam and this harrassing 727 number, and possibly getting closer to finding out who is responsible for ripping people off. I only hope we can prevent this from happening to others!
I got a call from 727-541-0001 three times since yesterday evening. When I answered the second time, the woman told me that I have been such a good visa customer that she is going to send me a $150 gas card. She went on and on until I stopped her to ask her what VISA and what bank. She told me that my VISA ended with these last four digits ####. I know for a fact that non of my cards ended with those digits. From the moment she refused to answer what VISA and the bank associated with my VISA, I knew she was bullshitting. She hung up after I confronted her. She sounded like a hispanic woman.
This is soooooooooo weird, I just started getting those phone calls since yesterday. I haven't answered yet but I decided to google it and I found this site. I just called that number back because of what u guys said and indeed, only the machine answers and says the number I've just called has been disconnected. Thank you guys, next time they call I'm gonna be prepared.
My calls come through without an identifiable number. I must be thought impoverished because they only offer a $20 gas card. I've been getting 3-5 a day on my business line for about 3 weeks. Sme pattern-- a lot of noise-- often I'm cut off before anyone speaks-- a slight foreign acccent. I've been guessing the calls from overseas. Is there rally no law enforcement authority willing or able to track this down?
I got a call from 724-541-0001 6 times in 2 days. I answer them adn they cut the call, and when I call back, it says the number has been disconnected. Thankyou guys for the information. I shall not pick these calls henceforth.Such a rip off and also a waste of my phone minutes!!
JUST GOT SCAMMED WITHOUT GIVING THEM ANY INFO!! These people called me just once about a month ago with the same gift card from visa thing. All I did was listen and then told them to send me terms and conditions and I would look it over and get back to them. They said that I needed to do this now and just went back on with their thing and then said they needed me to read back a four digit confirmation code (the last 4 numbers of my credit card) after I heard that I said I had to go and hung up. THEY STILL CHARGED MY CREDIT CARD AND I GAVE THEM NO INFORMATION!! I also rarely use my credit card, so I think these guys might be dumpster diving at some landfill or something. I had my card canceled and my card company gave me my money back with no complaints, thank god.
Here is what showed up on my credit card bill:
TRAVEL8008584838 602-271-0411 AZ $25.00
the 2nd number goes to the 13601 N 18th St, Phoenix, AZ 85022 address. Using googles cool satellite mapping I found out that this is a residential address.
For a couple weeks I was getting these calls also from the 727 number. I got them to stop calling me by speaking in my best lawyer tone and informing them they were calling my cell phone using an automated dialer in violation of FCC regulations and in response to this, I had filed form 475 with the FCC asking that their organization be fined under the applicable regulations. You can get that form here:
The scammers never called me after this. About 3 weeks later, I got a letter from the FCC basically saying they don't look into individual complaints but if they receive several, they will investigate. All of you need to follow the above link and complete that form. I think this is the best way to stop these people. Violating this regulation is the only law they've broken for sure.
I just did a search and came to this site about the 727-541-0001 number. I don't answer my phone unless I know who it is but still, my cell number. what the hell! Is there a way we can find out who this is and sue the crap out of them?
Hello,
I'm in Alaska and I'm getting calls from 866-655-7366 to my home phone. They call every day except Sunday and hang up on my answering machine because I screen my calls. So I decided to Google them and found this website.
Thanks for the article, Bob. Are you any relation?
BTW, Brad and others: You DID give them info -- when you said you had to go when they read the last four digits of your credit card, they knew it was valid.
Best thing to do is don't even talk to them, just click on that link in message #68 and fill out the FCC complaint form like I just did. In the comments area I told them I'd found this website for that number, and that I wanted them to add my complaint to all the others they get.
Best of luck fighting this to all.
I'm glad to find this blog since a friend of mine recently had the same ripoff inolving Travelers Innovations. The only difference was when she asked the caller where she had gotten her debit card information the caller said it had come from WalMart(?). Has anybody else gotten the line about the WalMart connection?
Well, good news!...as i said earlier, i just kept ignoring the calls, never answered a single one....the calls slowly decreased in number, and now i have not recieved a call from them in 3 weeks! looks like im in the clear. good luck to the rest of you
If enough of us claim fraud with our credit/debit cards after receiving fraudulious charges the card companies will do somthing about it. They have more resources and information than any victim. Who is the FBI, police or FCC etc. going to listen to, MBNA, American Express, VISA, Bank of America, OR Joe/Jane Smith? After all, most all card issuers offer $0 fraud liablity, or 50 bucks, and I would pay $50 to put these guys in jail. So check your credit card agreement or call for the fraud terms, and go get scammed.
They called me the other night and again today when i answered she did the whole visa bit, i told her about that visa dosent issue cards banks and stuff do and she named some bank and said they were representing Travel Inovations and if i looked at some stuff id get a free gas card and a 50 dollar gift card to walmart, She had my last name and the last 4 digits of my Debit Card number and wanted me to call some other number and said if i wasnt interested i could cancel anytime. I asked her if i could give it to my HItman for supplies and she said also said i could call when i wanted to cause i told her i was in the middle of a big gang war and didnt want to commit to anything if i was to get clipped. But she wouldnt send me a file baked in cake. After That i told her my lawyer said im not supoesd to talk to anyone about it and that if they called again id see them in court. She got pissed and i hung up.
I got a call on my Verizon Wireless phone too. Fortunately I looked up the number and found this blog entry beforehand. Even before that, I knew it would not be "Visa" because my card is associated with my landline, not my cell phone. I threatened FCC action and hung up after "Kevin" correctly read my personal information (name and last four digits), not once confirming who I was.
But after reading this discussion, I reported the card as stolen. I did not see any suspicious activity, but there's no point in risking it. If they keep calling, I'll have to change numbers (damn well better not) or get a cell phone that can block specific numbers (I can't).
I'm guessing they got the information off a receipt from a dumpster diver. Time to shred receipts instead of throwing them away no matter how much information is censored on them.
Thank you all for your comments; you helped protect my identity, despite the ironic name assiocated with the reply.
WOW from Hawaii to Florida up to michigan and back again this is crazy. Well add one more to the list of people getting calls. I did call the FTC and they said that if x number of complaints are filed, they in conjunction with the dept of Ag. can start charges, also when that occurs we can file civil action and the BBB wil assist us in doing that but first thing is people need to file formal complaints with the FTC and make sure that you are on the Do not call list.
Take care and thanks to Bob I think for initaly starting this post I know you are tired of the endless amount of responses but you have truely helped out your felow man.
-AP
I never get tired of seeing the comments. I just think, rather I know, that it is futile to file any complaints. You are dealing with Con Men. Con Men don't care if you file a complaint with the local police, the FBI, the FTC or any other local, state or federal agency. They know that if they get caught they won't be punished. (Or if they do get a few months or years in jail it was worth it. They rake in Millions. They live in Mansions, drive Ferrari's, Bentley's, have Yachts etc.) They will be told not to continue to do what they are doing, whether it be mail fraud or phone fraud or internet fraud. I recently saw another one of those scam shows on ABC Primetime or NBC Dateline. Can't remember which. It does not matter. The point is they traced a guy who had bilked thousands of people out of their life savings. Millions of dollars. The FTC sued him in Civil Court (not criminal court) and got an injunction against his company, let's call it Bob's Sure Thing Investments (since I can't remember the actual company name). So Bob's Sure Thing Investments was prohibited from doing business by this Judge. A month or so later this same guy was up and operating the same scam under a new name, Tom's Sure Thing Investments (Again I made up this name). But the beauty of this scam for these Con Men is that they can do this from ANYWHERE. Any State, Any City, Any Office or Home. All they need is a Phone and a Mailing Address, usually a Post Office Box. Sad but true.
Last year I received a few phishing calls from some outfit telling me I was entitled to receive a "government grant" of $8000 if I would just give my checking acount information to them.
I demurred and suggested they mail me a check instead. On the strength of my demurral, my grant application was summarily denied by the caller who hung up.
Darn. I could really use that $8000.
I looked at the call information on my cellphone. The area code was in Montreal, which confused me. Which government was offering me the money? Ours or Canada's?
I called the local branch office of the FBI. After a quick transfer, they put me through to a very nice person and I told her about my government grant call.
"Oh yeah," she said. "We know about that one. Was the grant for $8,000 or $15,000?" she asked me."
That stung. Apparently I wasn't worth the additional $7,000 to the people who appeared to be calling from Montreal (although they might not really have been in Montreal...there are apparently ways to fake the return number).
"$8,000," I said, feeling a little inadequate at this point. I thought I would have been worth at least $15,000.
The FBI lady took my information and thanked me for calling. I hung up, still bothered by that missing $7,000.
I have just noticed that I have a $14.95 charge on my debit card that is for my personal bank account. I remember getting a phone call about a month ago, but i dont remember confirming anything. Since this is my personal account, will cancelling the card work? Or do i need to go as far as changing my account number? The charge on my account looks like this :
TRAVEL8008584838 602-271-0411 AZ
I also usally dont answer numbers that I dont recognize but in this case my brother answered the phone for me. Numbers that have called me recently that i dont recognize and havent answered are: 305-371-7266 770-663-6378 541-479-6016 im not sure if these are connected at all since these arent as frequent, i havent seen these on any other posts, and they apparently got what they wanted from me.
These people called my wife about mid-Oct. She tells me she didn't give them our Visa card number, but they agreed to send her some sort of great gift cards. (I don't know what information she did give them.) The great gift cards never showed up. In November, we had a charge from TRAVEL8008584838 show up on our Visa statement every month for 14.95. I ask my wife to take care of it, which she usually is pretty good at doing, but doesn't make headway this time. Then in December, the charge shows up again, along with another one for $39.95:
R F AND G PRINCESS
DAPHNE, AL
So at that point, I'm worried, but not too much so, figuring if its a crook, they would be taking a lot more. It must be a legit business, I think, that mistakenly is billing us, or perhaps my wife actually purchased something from them. But with the holidays, I figure I'll take care of it afterwards, and then forgot. We now get our January statement, and both charges showed up again. So I try to call the number, get nowhere, and turn to Google and find this blog.
So call me naive, too trusting, or a bit slow, but I do eventually learn. I'm cancelling my Visa card tomorrow, and will file a complaint with my AG. The former will be effective, the latter won't.
They called me Monday from the 727-541-1000. Said they were calling from Visa to thank me for being a cardholder in good standing... I told him that he wasn't calling from my credit union or Visa, as I have told them not to call me. He then began to argue with me, he was very rude, and shouting at times. I'm not sure how much info he had, other than my name address, and the last 4 digits of my card. I decided that he was, to say the least, dishonest and I was probably going to get charged for something regardless of my answer. So I decided to sign up for it and see what would happen. After 4 hours, they still hadn't attempted to make a charge to my account, but I decided to cancel the card anyway. It's really disapointing that it's so easy to get away with this kind of scam. For now, I've told everyone I know to block the 727-541-0001 number from their home phones, and store it in their cell phones as Phone Scam, or something to let them know not to answer.
I just got a call on my cell from a 770 number, and since the person didnt even pronounce my name correctly I asked to take a message.. I searched this number on yahoo which led me to this page.
Now I am scratching my head as to how to get them to not call again.. maybe I can block the number???
as far as those of you who are seeing charges to your credit card that you have not agreed to, i would suggest call your credit card company and file a complaint. american express is one that actually cancels and tries to investigate fraude..
I originally got a call from someone posing as MasterCard in August of 2005. They offered a free gas card for being a great cardholder and always paying on time. Then they tried to upsell me on some trial magazine subscriptions. I told them I didn't want anything, so they told me I could decline the magazine subscription and still get the free gas card. I declined the magazine subscriptions, yet I started receiving magazines from 4 or 5 different companies about 3 weeks later. I had to call to cancel each of the 4 or 5 magazine subscriptions.
Each magazine company told me the trial subscription was requested by me while I was purchasing something from one of their partners. The telemarketing company behind this scam was Vici Marketing Group. The product I allegedly purchased was a membership to Traveler Innovations. I have never spoken with Traveler Innovations before and I never signed up with a membership. My suspicion is that Vici Marketing Group signed me up for a Traveler Innovations membership at the time they offered me a free gas card. Then VMG immediately cancelled my Traveler Innovations membership and signed me up for the magazine subscriptions.
In my opinion both of these companies are fraudulent and deserve to be the focus of a class action law suit. I am fully behind any action that someone would lead. I have full documentation of the entire process, and I still get about 3-5 phone calls from these bastards a day. They call me from 727-541-0001.
Vici Marketing LLC.
14001 63rd Way N.
Clearwater, Florida 33760
Phone: 727-533-8730
Fax: 727-535-9720
URL: www.vicimarketing.com
Traveler Innovations
P.O. Box 45439
Phoenix, AZ 85064
800-331-8867
www.travelerinnovations.com
I did a little more digging on Traveler Innovations. Some info was found on their website. An email address for memberweb.com was supplied on their FAQs and their main search engine on TI's site looks like their pulling their deals from memberweb.com.
I suggest using samspade to get more info.
other companies involved:
www.accessdevelopment.com
www.memberweb.com
(you'll notice the icon on the address bar for access dev and memberweb are the same- as if they are affiliated w/ ea. other)
www.consumerinnovations.com out of phoenix, az
(mentioned in TI's terms & conditions page)
here's another person's experiences
try using samspade.org for whois and dns info and www.turbo10.com to expand your searching on them since they let you specify up to 10 engines to use at once.
http://search.bbb.org/ found some interesting stats on disputes against some of the companies
I dunno if this stuff helps
Got a call with a man speaking spanish to me on my cell phone. They used number 305-371-7266. Does anyone else recognize this number? I looked up number and came with 999 Brickell Bay Dr Miami. Has anyone else experienced this?
305-371-7266
Got a call which I did answer from this number last night. Have no ided waht it is. I am in Texas.
305-371-7266
Got this call on my cell phone. When I picked up there was a Spanish speaking recording. Went on line to see if there was any information on it. Found this site and a few other logs mentioning it as a fraud of some type.
Add one more person to your list. They called my boyfriend a couple of weeks ago and he wanted to know how in the hell they got the last four digits of his card number. They couldn't answer him. He told them not to call back. They have called six times since then. Yesterday they said his name wrong so I told them they had the wrong phone number. They called three more times and each time I answer, they hang up. I guess they just want to talk to him. Question: Has anyone contacted this Consumer Innovations to find out if it is them? I am just amazed that someone can steal your money so easily. Not to mention - this is harassment!!
Same deal with me.. I got a call from this number this evening... didn't answer 'cause I didn't recognize it.
305-371-7266
Looks like it came
from Florida..
Somewhere in 'Hialeah' apparently.
I received a call from 305-371-7266 on Tuesday but didn't do anything or say anything to anyone bc I assumed it was just a misdial (I just hung up when I heard spanish). My sister mentioned getting a call from a 305 area code yesterday so we checked and she got a call from the same number. She received a voice mail (but hasn't checked it yet).
The weird thing is I was just in Miami for new years...anyone know if this could be related? It's weird that my sister and I were just down there and now we're getting calls based out of Miami.
I am in Virginia and recieved a call yesterday on my cell phone from (305)371-7266. It was a recorded message in spanish. I think that what they are doing is calling long distance numbers and then submitting a bill to the phone company for them to bill the called number for a long distance call. Check your phone bills carefully
Try canceling your credit card to get to talk to a person. Works every time for me.
I also got burned on the TRAVEL8008584838 thing.
It could really make me angry, but it's my own fault for not paying enough attention to the charges on the statement.
shitballs
I have beengetting calls from same number (305-371-7266) atleast twice a week, and when i answer it, its some spanish recording - pissing me off - I am in TX and with T-Mobile.
I already figured this out by reading it. First of all, they get your last 4 digits through some sort of reciept. Anything you have bought online or off. Anything you purchase with a credit card, has the last four digits shown, and the first 12 are x's or *'s. Mainly for protection of you, but also for convience. Say you have multiple cards, it is hard to identify which card you used otherwise. If they only show the first 4, millions of people have that same number. You might have it to, on multiple cards. So its easy for the last 4 numbers to be found. With millions of cards, it is hard to determine the first 12 numbers. Also the Verification number on the back of your card is impossible to scam without you giving it away. (This is usually a 3 or 4 digit number printed on the back of the card, on the signiture here part)Only the credit card company has it, and they NEVER disclose it. So if someone claims to be a credit card company ask them to repeat your verification number, or the first 4/8/12/etc numbers. Secondly, you can use the internet to search for anyones phone numbers if you know how. I have used it to find numerous friends in the past. Since they have a reciept with your number on it, it also has your full name. With that, they find all numbers with this name, and from there, they can start phishing for more information from people, just going down the list. Thirdly, since you mention calling back and it ringing, they probably have the phone set up to automatically play that message. Now I'm sure your wondering how they do this? Easy. Either set your phone to ring twice then go to voice mail, or set it up play automatically. I will explain both ways. First is the ring twice, when setting up a custom voicemail, it says please record after the beep. All you have to do is call a disconnected number, then record that onto your phone or a voice recorder. Then when it says record after the beep, it will beep, time it correctly to have the message be said into your phone. The other way would be, to make a sound file, of 2 rings and then the message, simply by recording the actually sounds into your computer, i.e. use a computer microphone, call the number, and then record it. Now how to make it useful? Many companies now are having an option to put on "music" as your ringtone for your cellphone. So that when someone calls, they hear a song that you choose. All you have to do is put your recording on the web, and then list that "song" as your ringtone. So when you call, you hear that message. Even though their fone is ringing, and they are acutally just smart enough to ignore it. These would be the 2 easiest ways to duplicate that message without acutally disconnecting the phone, at least if it is a cell phone. If it is a landline, you would use the first method. Or if you only have one phone connected to your landline, just pull out the wire after your call and leave it like that when not in use. Cellphones you could use either method. All of this somewhat explains how they are doing what they are doing. Hopefully you can use it to protect yourself. I don't know anything about the magazine scam, and I have not personally recieved these calls. A friend of mine has though. Please be careful people.
Nice technical skillz there, Ryan.
If you comment again with more entertaining tricks like the phone scam, please use paragraphs cos that continuous style of yours makes my eyes bleed.
This comment is directed to #96, Ryan. First of all I agree with #97, Chris Rose - separate your sentences into paragraphsand use a Spell Checker- wow!
Your post is like something out of an amateur detective novel and a bad one at that.
These callers are not using one line. They are not pulling the line out of the wall after they call you so that if you call back you will hear a message that the phone has been disconnected.
They are not using a recording that they made from recording someone elses phone being disconnected just so they could play it in case you called them back.
These are sophisticated boiler room operations using numerous people to make the calls. I personally remember about 6 different callers calling me before they finally gave up.
The calls are probably taking place through a computer bank of phones either over regular phone lines or cable phone lines with some type of electronic device sending out the message "you have reached a disconnected number" if it detects an incoming call.
As for your idea about locating phone numbers over the internet if you know how, you are correct. I have experimented a dozen times putting my number and other numbers I know into Google. It has NEVER found any of the numbers I put in. If Google is going to find a number it will usually be associated with a business, such as a pizza restaurant or pharmacy etc.
The number these crooks called in my case was my cell phone number which is the only number I have. I do not have a land line. It is also listed on the "do not call list" which as I have stated before is not going to stop a crook. If a person is a criminal and he has the criminal intent to defraud you is he going to look at the "do not call list" and skip you if your number is on it? Get real!
So how do they get the credit card numbers and the phone numbers. This is one way. If you have followed the news over the past few years you would know that numerous computer data banks of large companies, including Experian, have been breached and the data stolen. Data was even stolen off of the Pentagon computers. In many cases the stolen data included credit card numbers, telephone numbers, medical records, credit information etc.
The people making these calls purchase the information from the hackers or other crooks that stole the data in the first place. They may sell the same data 50 or 100 or more times. It is the same as buying legitimate names from a "list broker". In case you are not familiar "list brokers" sell names, addresses and other data to companies that want to do mass mailings or mass phone calling solicitations. It is perfectly legitimate as long as they obtained the information legally.
How do they get the information? Every time you fill out a form to win a "free car" or house. Every time you buy a new product and send in the "warranty" registration card. Every time you subscribe to a magazine. Every time you go on line and register at a site for a newsletter or newspaper access etc. Did you notice how they ask you about your income, your occupation etc. This is all marketing information that can be used and sold to the list brokers.
Ok, lets discuss one other way crooks can get your data. You know there are 3 large credit reporting agencies. Equifax, Experian and Trans Union. These 3 companies know more about you and your employment history, rental history and credit history than any other companies on earth. They have followed you since you applied for your first job, your first credit card or your first apartment. (Yes, companies check your credit before they hire you or rent to you).
So how does someone get this info? It is easy. You create a phony company such as Hamas Computing Services and then contact the credit agencies, pay an annual membership fee and bingo, you can tap into their computers. You are now a "buyer" of credit and employment information.
If you don't want to use Experian and the other two credit companies directly, you do it indirectly. For example, you join an association such as "The Apartment Owners Association" and then you send them the names and Social Security numbers of 50 people who you claim applied to rent one of your apartments. Within a few hours you have the complete credit and rental history on all 50 of those people.
The key here is that you must have the Social Security numbers. Assuming you bought these from a hacker or just an ordinary crook who happens to moonlight as a bank teller or data processer in a large department store, or at any other company where they have access to credit records or MEDICAL records, you can get whatever you want.
There are lots of people who want information on other people and are willing to pay for it. The next time you go to your doctors office and you are greeted by the cute little 18 year old receptionist file clerk how do you know she is not being forced by her drug addicted gang member boyfriend to bring him the names and adresses and phone numbers and social security numbers of the doctors patient's?
Your best friend is not your dog! It is knowledge and a shredder!
Finally my call tracing worked!, these hang up calls kept coming from 866-655-7366 Anyone out there figured out who/where these are from?
(866)655-7366 (They were watching Tv, heard it in the background)
I keep getting the call too...occasionally i'll pick up in order to find out what these fools want...but to no avail...i'm getting furious
I just thought I'd let y'all know they're using a new number: 877-453-3388. Started getting calls from that yesterday.
I started getting the calls about a week ago from 866-655-7366. When I answer they ask for some woman who I had never heard of and then immediately hang up. It's been the same routine for 8 calls now. WTF??
these guys have called me 2 times EVERYDAY for the past 3 weeks. No lie...they have not missed a day.
So lets do the math: 21 X 2 = 42 times!
I just told one of em not to call back...but if they do...i'm gonna let em have it
I just called a private investigator who gave me some advice on what to do with these phone calls. She told me that the only way to really get these guys and get some action was to do the following: Call 911, or an FBI representative and tell them that you have just received a call from someone at 727-541-0001 and that the person on the phone told you that they knew where you lived and were going to blow up your house with a bomb and kill you and your family. After telling you that, they hung up on you. Let the authorities know that this was a "terrorist" threat and you are in fear of your life. Tell them you are scared and you need to know what to do. If that doesn't get someone on the case, I don't know what will.
I have simply NOT answered my phone when they call, but I thought that this was a great idea. Basically your word against theirs...and being the scammers they are who do you think is going to be believed.
That last comment may sound great, but DON'T DO IT. Why would you want to get yourself in trouble with the law for filing a false report.
Like they said...just DON'T ANSWER your phone when they call.
I commented before about getting the 305 number calling me. Tonight, I got a call from 786-718-9058. I didn't pick it up and they didn't leave me a message. Weirdly enough, a couple hours later, I was mentioning this to my family, and immediately following the conversation, my mother's phone rang...WITH THE SAME NUMBER. They left her a message and, like before, it was all in Spanish.
I am just floored that she got the call the same day I did. Possibly, could it be that we share our last name and her first name is really soon after mine alphabetically? Our cell phone numbers are completely different, even our area codes, so I don't know what else it could be.
I've been just recently recieving calls from the 727-541-0001 #. We've all gotta have something in common. I've been making some online pruchases lately a couple weeks before the calls began. anyone one else? shipped products also contain a paper copy of the last 4 digits of your cred, and the fone # that you gave them. so its also possible, that some carriers maybe be openning the boxes just for this information, then resealing. knowing that they can easily be traced for missing goods, stealing this information would be more effective.
If my situation sounds fimiliar to yours, post the online stores that you have recently purchased from before the calls. (it might even be someone working at an arrival point where the packages check through as they are shipped.)
finishline
buy.com
sierratradingpost
eforcity
I'll post the tracking checkpoint locations that my packages have been through, if this idea sparks any similiar responses
Calls me too!!! I reported them and warned them that I am a federal officer. Havent had anymore since then.
so these calls started the other day - happened to coincide perfectly with me being a totla idiot and falling for a stupid get a $500 shopping spree thing. I just wanted to try to get a running stroller! When I call the number back it is this weird dial tone kind of thing. I am getting the calls from the 866-655-7366 number - no one answers and I don't even hear anything on the other end. We shall see where this goes...
to #107, Jason, I have made online purchases recently but I never give my cell number, only my home number. And these calls have been coming to my cell.
I've been getting the calls from the 727 number for the past week. They call about 5 times a day between 8am-8pm. I fight with them every time and they refuse to stop calling me, and they just hang up. Next time I'm gonna try telling them they have the wrong number, but I doubt that will help. Is there any way to get these goons to stop calling. I can't believe we don't have some sort of a service in effect that bans numbers.
I received a call from 786-718-9058 on my cell phone and it said it was coming from Miami, FL and when I didn't pick up, my husband got a call from the same number without a message, as well. I tried reverse look up and it took me here.
Just got the 786-718-9058 call myself. This sucks.
My boyfriend just got a call from 786-718-9058 on his cell. He didn't answer and no message was left. He called the number back and the voicemail said John Johnson, but it wouldn't accept any more messages. Strange.
My wife just got a call from the 786-718-9058 number, no message.
Just got a call from 786-718-9058. I did not answer the phone. Google brought me here. Someone should really stopped these types of crooks...If not FBI, perhaps FCC???
We have a winner! I too got the 786-718-9058 number calling my cell this afternoon. I did not answer.
that makes 4 of us in the last 4 hours!
i just got a call from that 786 # too
I just got this frigging 786-718-9058 on my cell too. How the hell are they getting my number? Only 10 people have my cell number!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got this 786 number yesterday. Answer it as I have some out of town friends in the area, message was all in spanish, About 3 hours later I got a call from the same number, but I missed it, no message was left.
I just got the call from the 786 area number about 5 minutes ago. Too bad there isn't a way we can track them down and go pay them a visit in person.
I just recieved two calls from 786-718-9058.
First one was just noise, the second I missed was a message all in spanish. W.T.F!
I GOOGLED it and here I am. I tried calling it back and no answer. There has to be a way to track these jerks down,and maybe give them so of their own medicine.
I've gotten three calls from (786) 718-9058 on my cell phone today. Like most of you I didn't answer because I didn't recognize the number and .....like most of you I did an internet search on the number ending up here. I'm going to call my phone company and let them know that I have no intention of paying for these calls and if they can, they should block that number. Someone is bound to shut this down quickly....I hope.
Re: #106 Marianne
786 is apparently an overlay area code for 305 area code. go figure, smae pace just a new number.
So if they're getting the information from online shopping of some kind, wouldn't that mean they know our addresses then?
Got two calls from the 718-9058 number today. Both short messages, both in Spanish.
It's interesting... the only 'businesses' who know my cell number are my cell phone provider and an online tennis league. My cell number is not even associated with my credit cards.
I'm glad this 'support group' exists, at least. Helps make a bit of sense out of something truly odd.
Just received a call from 786-718-9058 and did a google search and found this page. I also received a call from a 305 area code around 4 this evening. I don't give out my cell nimber to anyone but close friends and family. I didn't answer them because I didn't recognize the number...
I received 2 calls on my mobile, the 305 and the 786 number you have mentioned and wonder if they are randomly calling mobile numbers, or what sort of scam this is, and all that happened when we picked up the 305 area code number they said HOLA and some inscrutible spanish thingie and I just put the phone down, very odd indeed
These people are calling my house for about 3 weeks now. 5 times or more a day. They have always called during the day when my wife and I are at work. Unfortunaty this leaves my mother, A.K.A. the babysitter dealing with the pushy hispanic woman!
Tonight, I the pleasure of personally speaking to this woman. She started asking questions and spitting numbers. So as I always do in these situations when bill collectors call, like any other MAN! I handed the phone to my wife! She handled it as if it were a bill collector and simply told them to go get @#$%$^!
I put the numbers into my phone so the name "SCAM" jumps up if they call. Then I can contemplate what kind of abuse/neglect to heap on them when they call. These are the numbers I have so far:
786-718-9058
727-541-0001
Are there others?
I just got a call from 786-718-9058. I didn't answer, and they left a message, very broken up and all in Spanish. I googled it like everyone else and arrived here. So glad this message board exists, otherwise I may have called it back and paid for a worthless call.
I'm in Atlanta, by the way. I'd like to think they're just randomly dialling numbers. I hope I'm right.
I'm in New Orleans, got the 786 call on my cell. Mistook the A/C for 586, which is Michigan. Almost answered but fortunately pushed the wrong button.
Virgin Mobile is my provider - do we all have the same provider? Are we all on pre-paid plans? What do we have to do to shut these people down?
Damn, thanks guys, just like the person before me I was about to call and pay for a worthless number. The 786 number called me this morning, I was asleep, and they left no message. Whoever this is obviously has NO life!
Nope, I'm on Cingular and I have a plan
THEY CALL MY HOME PHONE. AND NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT. THAT LINE IS NOT EVEN IN MY NAME! BASTERDS! THESE PEOPLE HAVE REALLY DONE THEIR HOMEWORK. YOU WOULD THINK THEY COULD SPEND A LITTLE MORE OF OUR HARD EARNED MONEY AND HIRE SOMEONE WHO CAN AT LEAST SPEAK ENGLISH!
i got the call from the 7867189058, im in maryland and it was on my cell. also i have nextel service.
I just got one on my sprint pcs phone....
Got a call from the same number. I'm in Washington, DC. Provider Cingular. I've shopped recently at finishline.com online. What about everyone else?
786-718-9058 - Got a call from this number at 12:19 this morning. They have called previously, but like many, I don't answer out of state calls, unless I recognize them. I like the idea of programming the phone with SCAM as the caller. Mine can also turn the ringer off, so I don't have to run to the phone.
They have changed numbers on me 3 times. The newest is: 1-800-331-8461. I seem to keep geting 800 number calls instead of long distance.
I have only had my phone for 1 week and just recieved a call from 786-718-9058
I got a call from 786-718-9058 at 2:42pm. I didn't pick up but a voicemail was left in Spanish. I speak Spanish and the message made no sense and was very broken up. I am in Washington, DC.
unfortunately for me, i have to answer all my calls because i'm job hunting. 786-718-9058 called me and i just heard a spanish recording so i hung up. as soon as i hung up, my phone beeped so i checked my voicemail and the focker left 3 vms today. i have a very spanish name and sooo ticked off with these calls from people thinking i'm spanish and start talking my head off in spanish. what the hell??? do you guys have spanish names too?????
I have received the Spanish call from 786-718-9058 probably a total of 15 times. They have left messages several times. I had a friend who speaks Spanish listen to it, and she said that the man is a recording telling you which numbers to press and telling you the office hours of some kind of organization, as if I had called the number and received a voice mail machine. I have Nextel and am located in Maryland. If anyone has any ideas for how we could get this to end, that would be great!
At 3:14 p.m. today I got a call on my Cingular phone from 786-718-9058. I haven't checked the message yet. But I Googled the number to see who it belonged to and was lead here. I've been hearing about people getting messages in Spanish. I don't know what lead to these phone calls. I haven't done anything out of the ordinary with my number. I'm in Atlanta, GA.
I've gotten two different recorded messages, both in spanish, from two different 786 numbers. Both my sister and my mother have as well...we are all in the DC area, and use cingular. Is this just a Cingular thing?
I also received a call a few minutes ago from 786-718-9058. I'm in Atlanta and have a Cingular phone.
I got a call on my Cingular phone from 786-718-9058. Today was the first day. I got two so far. I'll keep checking back here.
I got a call from 786-718-9058 on 02/22/2006 at 1:57 p.m. I am with TMobile. My wife got a call from the same number few days back
I got several calls from the same number yesterday. Messages in Spanish. I have Cingular and have recently had to leave my number when making online orders from Amazon.com and BathandBodyWorks.com.
I just got a call from the 786-718-9058 number.
Verizon is my provider. I missed the call and Googled it before I called back and found this site. It will be interesting to find what is going on.
also called today by 786-718-9058. the phone they called is to a prepaid motorola phone number that does not have an associated name or address. my guess is these people are just randomly dialing numbers in certain area codes.
Got a call in Washington, DC from the 786 number identified above, and unfortunately answered it as only my wife ususally calls my phone. I got a recorded announcement in Spanish and hung up right away. I will be calling cingular in the morning and have not intent to pay for this scam call. I hope they can't mess with my credit card. I did not give them any info as I just hung up. If anyone learns anything else on this please let me know.
I got called by 786-718-9058 at 5:18 pm PST but I didn't answer. I'm in Los Angeles and have T-Mobile.
What do they want?!?!?
Got the 786-718-9058 call on my mobile at 7:20 PST. I'm in Sacramento, CA and have Cingular. Googled and this popped up. Hmm.
Sacramento, CA 786-718-9058 came in on cell. Didn't answer, no message left, google brought me here.
I have sprint PCS and like the rest of you, I found this site by googling the phone number.
This is the interesting part. I have 2 phones on my account. One for me (which is a Minnesota number) and then I pay for one for my mother (which is a Maryland number) I don't get those calls but my mom's phone gets them all the time. It's the same as the rest of you all. The person never leaves a message but whenever she answers it's always some moron babbling in spanish.
I got the same call from (786) 718-9058 two times yesterday at about 10 am. I had my phone turned off so they left me 2 messages. It was a recording and in spanish and even though i speak it I couldn't undersatnd what they said through the static. I have a northern VA/DC area phone # but live in Florida and I have Verizon. I have no checking account or credit cards (im underage) so I have no idea how they got my number.
Received 786-718-9058 on my Verizon mobile phone at 9:30AM EST. I'm in the Washington DC metro area. I answered it but hung up immediately as soon as I heard the spanish speaker.
786-718-9058 - Just got a call from this number and didn't answer because I didn't recognize the number and didn't want to waste my prime minutes on someone I didn't know. I #67 the number from a landline and I can't get through. Google brought me here. I now realize this is a SCAM number. Thanks guys; I'm calling Cingular to complain.
Cingular said they are not able to do anything and recommended calling FCC to complain.
I just got a call from this number (786-718-9058)and did not answer. The message I received was: "Usted a agotado todas las opciones. Esta semana sera desconectada. Gracias". This is what it means: "You've terminated all the options. You'll be disconnected this weekend. Thanks" I'm gonna try to block that number because I'm not paying for that call.
Got one yesterday from the florida number 786 718 9058 Immediately a recording ( Spanish )was heard asking me to dial one ... Just hang up!
Just wanted to thank the people responsible for this site, It is really helpful. Keep it up.
I got a call this morning from 786-718-9058 and the caller left a message in Spanish.
Last night I received one from 305-358-6913.
Got the 718-718-9058 number. Googled it and landed here. I have Cingular. I don't use my phone # with CC purchases.
Well, it is reassuring to know there are so many skeptical people out there just like me. Be careful with your personal info.
Add me to the list of people who just got a call from the 786 number on her cell phone.
The recording was in Spanish. I Googled the number and got this website.
As so many people on here I rcvd a wierd phone call from some spanish recording. Googled it and wound up here. I wonder if the FCC has a website or e-mail adress We could send this page to...
This is a cell phone version of email spam. In the email, their computers send email to a huge list they bought from someone - much of it is useless. But if you go to the "unsubscribe" link, they know there is a real person behind that email address & you will never get rid of them unless you change your email address.
This phone thing is the same, that's why the first time you get the call all you hear is a "crowd" or a "roar" and then it hangs up. It is simply the computer modem noise, and the machine makes a note of your number as being a real one. After that, a person will be calling you. Knowing the last 4 digits of your credit card is not so tough, this site explains the anatomy of card numbers: merriampark.com. And it is pretty easy for them to get geographical locations of cell phone area code numbers (which are not always the same as your city code).
Using only cell phones is ingenious actually, isn't there a law in the US about inter-state telephone fraud that would get the FBI actually interested? With cell phones locations is much harder to establish.
I received a call from 786-718-9058 this morning and 786-316-0579 last night. They both had the Spanish recording. I just reported it to the FCC.
I got a call from 786-718-9058 at 3:08 pm yesterday, 2/22. I was in the shower when they called and they didn't leave a message. I also googled the number and ended up here.
FYI: My grandmother was scammed by people doing this. Except they told her she won the European lottery and instead of her getting the winnings, they got a large chunk of her money. I'm glad to see you're all cautious and not as easily persuaded as an 80 year old woman.
I got a call from 786 718 9058 this morning at 11:38am. I was at work, didn't hear my cell phone ringing. They didin't leave a message and when I called back, the line was busy. I googled the number and found this page. I was a fraud victim (happened recently) and am really sensitive to this kind of issues. Thanks Bob!
I live in Fairfax, VA, suburb of washington DC. Have 703 area code.
I just received a call on my cell phone from this 786-718-9058 number. I'm in the metro DC area, too. Service with Cingular, activated ~2 months ago. Glad I didn't answer, and won't bother calling back since I see that would be useless. I like the idea of adding the number to my phone's directory with the name SCAM. Am curious if my wife received the same call, too, as our accounts were activated at the same time.
Same as rest, searched internet. What cell phone provider are you using?
Verizon
Maybe we can link something together. Should put up a poll to see the % of providers called more often. Ratsafratsa....AAAHHHH!!



Good post, Bob. It is amazing how you can get bounced around so much by customer service when you're just trying to do something good-natured.