If you think KD Lang is great and call her music "real" it's impossible for you to know why MC's album is great. There is something wrong with your brain.

Your review (bashing) is so unfair, I doubt if you even listened to her CD with an open mind.

"Your money's on the dresser, baby. I'm done with you." You cant really be done wth her if you never been into her in the first place. Who are you trying to convince here ? MC's "MASIVE" fan base? I think not.. because as you can see we went back even after the glitter fiasco....

Al..you and I may not agree about Madonna, but I am liking you more and more. My dog sings better than Mariah Carey! She's nothing but a glorified dog whistle.

Wow......I thought that was a really good post. Yes, harsh but i think its so true. Like many teenagers of 'that time' I thought Music Box was a wonderful album - you could hear strong pretty vocals not her raspy pathetic attempts at being sexy that she does nowadays. And Jetro, there is an obvious difference between KD Lang and Mariah Carey...KD Lang has never pimped herself out to the music industry and also has never had to tell the world about mental breakdowns because her music is a joke! Mariah Carey has ruined herself. She wont even use her real legs on an album cover because she is just NOT about the music. Take a listen to KD Langs 'ingenue' and listen to a real music artist.

Let me see. You reviewed the album but your comments doesn't move beyond one song. Instead, the rest of your "review" is spent on negatively Mariah's personality, image and dressing style. What a fair view and critique of the "album".

Beyond your admittance that you went into it unfair, you critique in general is lacking any substance on exactly what is should be critiqing, the songs on the album, construction of the album, relevance to the style of music it is claiming, vocalizating and musical character.

I also find it interesting that you having an obvious biased against her, would comepare her Rnb/Pop music to that of the more folky/country sound of KD Lang and June Cash. Its obvious that you have a preference for the latter style of music. Why even bother to review an artist you have a dislike of or a style of music you have little interest in? Couldn't resist the feeding opportunity eh?

I would expect a review to compare the work to other Rnb singers or current albums out today, not 4 or 5 paragraphs spent on bashing Mariah image.

Anywqy, you are entitled to your opinion. Lets all thank God that it is relegated to this miniscule site and isn't half as relevant as the multitudes of critics that are considering this as one of the best albums of the year as well as some of her best work to day. But of course you would like to think that your opinion is superior to theirs.....

Jesus. I just realized that I hit "post" before completing the correction of my grammer and spelling. Please ignore as I cannot re-edit.

sorry.

Pretty funny - and true. Do NY queens dig her yet, that's the last spot before the professional graveyard, isn't it? I bet Cher is SO jealous it hurts!

Ew Craig, NY queens? Ouch!

Ihateoreilly, I dig. I much prefer the sounds of my coon dog Rouser under my window baying at the moon. Much more musical. My cocker spaniel house dog Hobo ran from the room everytime I played the Mariah Carey.

By the way, I pretty much dig Madonna, at least up through the Dick Tracy album. I ought to do a write up on that classic.

John, "your comments doesn't move beyond one song." Did you just not read past the first couple of paragraphs? I made some effort to describe the songwriting and melody- which is really tough to do with something this indistinguished.

By the way, who are some of these critics who supposedly like this turd sandwich? She would generally be considered one of the most reviled modern singers among critics.

And no, I'm NOT going to limit her to being compared to a very narrow genre of current r&b singers. What, you think I should say that her album's not quite as crappy as Linday Lohan, so it's pretty good?

Look pal, this crap is THE biggest thing on radio this year, and one of the biggest selling. The industry is pimping out this nonsense mostly to younguns what don't know anything about music. The kiddies, however, could just as easy be listening to KD or Aretha or the Supremes.

This review is a big piece of CRAP. There's nothing interesting in it.

Pretty harsh - and I can't agree. Here's my earlier "real time" review of the album - which I bought.

Most of Carey's earlier work was boring to me and there is actually greater meaning to some of these songs than with most of her hits.

And Johnny Cash is in my top 10 and June Carter Cash no doubt will be as soon as I get around to listening to more of her solo wrork.

Blogs. What a wonderful creation. Or a horrible monster that has become a juggernaut for wannabe writers such as yourself to make themselves feel important. Do you think that just because you have a silly blog on an obscure site that internet obsessed zombies will read is REALLY important?
NO. I agree with the fact that you can't be done with someone if you've never been into them in the first place.

It's obvious to me that you're an insecure soul who wishes to bring some sort of attention by reviewing albums by artists you have no interest in. You also need to find a better theasarus because you repeatedly use the same words. Whore whore whore whore...prostitute. Could it be you secretly love her? It's interesting you use sexual attacks on Mariah. People hate in others what they hate in themselves. Perhaps you know that you're the whore for selling yourself to a blogging site. You're whoring yourself out to other people in exchange for the "celebrity" and I use that term loosely.

Go find a hobby...like making quilts. Stop thinking about Mariah and think about yourself...damn that's depressing isn't it? That's why NO ONE writes blogs about you. There's nothing to say.
Could it be that you really hate yourself? Well do everyone a favor and go punch yourself in the mouth.

You know what? You just keep on hating Mariah.

I just saw the picture on your...uh...*coughs*..."site".
If you actually take yourself seriously then I can't say anything else. I'm laughing too hard.
Anything you write is a joke after seeing that picture.

Good luck with the blogging. Ha.

Just for the record, I do NOT hate Mariah Carey. She might be a real fine gal if you got to know her. I don't know much about her private life, nor particularly care. My beef with her is purely professional.

This is corporate whore music if I ever heard it. It makes Styx sound like the Sex Pistols.

If you think I was crappy about corporate whore stuff with Mariah, wait till I get in a bad enough humor to review Coldplay. Ha!

This is a stupid, pointless discussion.

This is Mariah Carey we're talking about. She's done the lightest, most commercial pop music since her career began as the bride of Tommy Mottola.

What principles and underground integrity did she have to sell out?

She's a chick pop diva and one of the biggest bimbos you've ever heard if you hear her in interviews talking about her fans as "lambs" and "butterflies."

Hell, she names her albums "The Emancipation of Mimi." This is not an intellectual or a radical we're talking about here.

This is like criticizing marshmallows for being too sweet and not having any nutritional value as food.

Senator Al Barger, always taking on the hard topics and skewering those sacred cows that no one else has the courage to assail in their criticism.

That is all.

ok, well i really think the article is bloody harsh. But yeah she maybe a little wacked out sometimes with the things that she does, but of course anyone would after been in the spot light for so long.

But guys, your comments mean nothing, count the records she has sold, she is the no.1 selling female artist of all time.
And to come back from her last two pretty much flop albums, is pretty amazing to do, to reinvent yourself and follow it up with two major hits (it's like that, and the worldwide number 1, we belong together and album @ no.1 in many countries) she has done what some artist couldnt or cant.

Yes she is a diva, but who isnt? if she doenst do the silly things that she does like fly her personal trainer around the world for her then who would the papers/magazines write about.

She has done a great job and she will continue to do it,

Mariah is NOT the biggest selling female artist of all time. That's one of the reasons I hate her so much. Streisand is, by far, the biggest selling female artist in America, and Madonna has sold about 5 times as many records as any female act has worldwide. Even if Mariah WAS the biggest selling female artist of all time, her statistic are not legit. Most of her "16" number one songs were actually songs that bombed so bad at radio that her record company pimped them out for 49 or 99 cents. When Billboard heavily counted single sales in the 90s, Mariah took advantage of this. Her music appeals to the lowest denominator of humanity. When Mariah last went out on tour, she bombed completely. She downsized large venues into small venues and couldn't fill up those. She's a corporate pig who slept with the head of her record company.

YOU'RE COMMENTS ARE ALL HORRIBLE TO DESCRIBE MARIAH AND HER MUSIC. BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS FOR YOU. YOU NEVER GET THE CHANCE TO BE EMOTIONALLY AND PERSONALLY INCLINED TO MARIAH'S STUFF OVER THE PAST YEARS. BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING, ONE BEST THING THAT I REALLY "LOVE" ABOUT MARIAH'S WORK REGARDLESS OF MUSICAL TECHNICALITIES IS THE WAY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE STORY IN HER PERSONAL LIFE, IN HER STRUGGLES, IN HER CAREER (TOO MUCH TO SAY WHEN I AIN'T GOT THE PERFECT WORDS) THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO RELATE WITH HER HEARTACHES, HEARTBREAKS, FAILURES AND ALIENATION. BUT ALSO ONE THING I THINK I SHALL NOT BE ABLE TO RELATE FROM HER IS HER SUCCESS THROUGH IT ALL. THAT'S WHY, NO MATTER WHAT HARSH COMMENTS I HEAR OR READ FROM EVERY BODY ELSE, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU SET YOURSELF AND YOUR MINDSET RIGHT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE WORLD. I JUST LOVE IT WHEN EVERY BODY DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME AND DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ME, 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S COMMON BETWEEN ME AND MY FOREVER IDOL, MISS MARIAH CAREY!!! THANKS FOLKS!!!

An very huge and successful artist like Mariah Carey has to go through ups and downs of her career to know her status as a professional artist. And besides, what all these people have just been doing all their life is to make value judgments on the persons they considerably dislike. Whatever it is, the facts and figures have already revealed, Mariah is the best-selling female artist of all time and she still has a lot of time to become the all time most successful artist. Let's see!

Favor, Al Bager, why don't you review Jennifer Lopez's "Rebirth" album?

Oh Loida, you think I won't? Give me a few days though to get ringing of this record out of my ears. A fat dose of Porter Wagoner should cleanse the palatte.

All these comments analyze Mariah Carey's sales figures, as if that meant anything. I concede by the very title of this article that she's certainly one of the biggest selling female recording artists in history.

Yet STILL her record sucks. The fact that it's selling so prominently only makes the sucking worse by making me have to keep hearing it.

you know what? all said and done , it doesn't even matter what some insignificant Al or whatever says. eventually mariah needs to prove herself only to her fans coz she is in a place where everything is secure and needs no proving! seems to me like this guy who wrote that very biased review of the 'album '..( well more so about mariah, the person who might have resembled his very perfect ex girlfren who dumped his ass!!) without even knowing a bit about her music or about her as a person . yes ,may be she has done up her image . but her fans love her with or without. so whats it to you,dude! just go and drink some water,man!!! whoever you are! remeber what you say means nothing to anybody nor is it gonna scrap anything away from mariah. so the only person who is a corporate blog whore is you!!!!!

Jay, you flatter me. Would that I had a girlfriend who looked like Mariah Carey to get dumped by.

However, I must strenuously object to your assertion that I know nothing of Ms Carey's music. I made myself listen to this entire crappy record carefully four times, and the main hit several times more. Thus, I have paid the cost to say that I know this album.

your honesty with being biased is meritable, however your supposed review is not.

if you ARE listening to a totally different kind of music, maybe it's best if you to just leave it alone. i would never listen to polka music and i wouldn't even think twice to review it.

i know you're not a fan, but calling her a "corporate whore" is a bit too much. no matter who you are: the cute, u2, kd lang ... you are still a corporate whore no matter how "indie" and how unconventional your music is. if you truly are in it just "for the music" then you would be singing karaoke at home in private or the least a local cafe. (not starbucks, you poser!)

is it not her nature to write and sing the music she enjoys. if she decided to sing obscure songs that don't relate one bit about herself in order to please critics and her record label, then that would truly deem her into a corporate whore.

i know you're not a fan and you're not listening to any of the positivity she tries to display, but she said in a couple of interviews that her favorite song is the last track, "fly like a bird." she put that song last, hoping that someone who may have bought the cd for more "club-driven songs" can listen to the last song and walk away with something that has a message.

that to me, is the definition of being genuine. which separates her from "corporate studio artist" into a dare i say, "human being."

OK Aaron, I concede that Mariah Carey is a human being- a human being who makes crappy records.

My "admission" that my review would not be "fair" was a bit facetious- that it's not fair to compare Mariah Carey to real music.

"Corporate whore" mostly refers to the exceptionally overt crassness of the commercial calculations in the creation of the product. You're supposed to want to please an audience. Then there's generating an album by focus group design, or whatever utterly soulless process it is that they do to come up with nonsense like this crappy album.

"I'm still having trouble remembering how the song goes even while I'm listening to it."

LMFAO you seriously have some issues. Just from reading that comment alone. Stick to listening to your own mediocre music. You don't see Mariah fans reviewing The Cure, KD Lang and Johnny Cash albums, beacuse they don't care. Well.... nobody does. :-X

For the last time, it's PALATE. One T, not two. Don't use cliched expressions if you can't spell them right.

That is all.

Welcome to TeamLamb, an organized team of Maria Carey fans. Our purpose is to keep Mariah, the biggest female musical icon of all time, on top.

Unfortunately, the no-talent slut, Madonna, is still being referred to as the "Queen of Pop," even though her most recent album, American Life, and her Reinvention Tour have really made her the "Queen of Flops." Madonna used to be successful, but that's because she slept her way to the top. Mariah, on the other hand, has sold millions of records based solely on her amazing talents and being a great role model.

Mariah has had sixteen number one singles. Her last two number one singles, "We Belong Together" and "Heartbreaker" have broken worldwide records everywhere. Mariah's most recent Charmbracelet tour was a critically acclaimed smash that played to millions all over the world. Roger Friedman, a well respected music journalist, called the concert one of the greatest he's seen in the past ten years. Mariah is, indeed, the biggest musical sensation since the Beatles.

Within the next couple months, Madonna will try to take away Mariah's crown by releasing "Confessions on a Dance Floor" along with the single, "Hung Up." There seems to be a lot of buzz , but most of it seems generated by Madonna's desperate, pathetic fans. TeamLamb will do everything we can to make this project a flop for Madonna. We will organize by calling radio stations and telling them how much we don't like her new songs, write letters to several magazines and confirm that she is, indeed, over, and spread negative messages about Madonna on several Internet blogs.

We will soon have an Internet site, but to instantly become a member of TeamLamb, please send an email to TeamLambMimi@aol.com. You can also dedicate money for my site through Pay Pal (use my email address as the account). It's going to be a busy autumn with the old, aging hag, but we will bring her down!

Either that's really brilliantly funny satire or really disturbing. Either way, hilarious! Keep up the fight, TeamLambMimi@aol.com. Smoke em out.

That is all.

"Mariah is, indeed, the biggest musical sensation since the Beatles." Oh brother, are you ASKING for it.

Billboard and record sales do not lie. You put an awful lot of effort and fluff verbage into your "critique" of an artist you do not like.

Opinions are like a**h*les, everyone has one.

You're such a sad human being.

It's fine if you don't like an artist, but as you can see many other people do.

Who are you to say that you're the one with good tastes, and the rest have crappy tastes?

You're an asshole.
You have NO TASTE WHAT SO EVER.
I don't get how loosers like you can think they know better than the 250+ MILLIONS of prople who bought her music.
You need a REAL life.
I don't know any whore who's worth 300+million of dollars.
She's laughing all the way to the bank.
Broke ass looser.

What does Mariah has to offer?
Read your review (HATE SPEECH), you you'll se what she stands for.
Her message has always been VERY CLEAR on songs like, Make it Happen, Hero, Butterfly, Through the Rain, Fly like a Bird:
"Beleive in yourself and don't later haters take anything away from you".
After the glitter debacle, and the beating that she took from mobs of haters such as yourself telling her that her carreer was over, she came back bigger than ever.
Now, not only she sings about self determination, but she's proven that she sings the song and she walks the walk.

You know, I really think your review of this album is unfair. Maybe you need to like the GENRE of music in the first place. Considering you listen to KD Lang, I take it hip hop and R&B aren't exactly the areas of music you derive pleasure from? Anyway, "We Belong Together" is a beautiful song. Granted, the No. 1 spot on Billboard has had its share of trash (Usher, Carrie Underwood lol), but this is the real deal. Also, this is the first album since Aaliyahs' last one that I am able to listen to without skipping a track.

Don't hate the genre though. Its very vital and some of us really enjoy it, just as much as you seem to like slow music by boring dykes with horrible haircuts.

if you actually wrote with some

objectivity...maybe you would convince

a few idiots out there.

real classy!

Q: "I don't get how loosers like you can think they know better than the 250+ MILLIONS of prople who bought her music."

A: I listen to to the record good and careful several times, looking for anything worthwhile. Being Mariah Carey though, no such luck.

Some of y'all here are awfully damned lazy, what with all variations of insisting that I obviously supposedly just don't like r&b or whatever genre you're placing Carey in. No, I just don't like THIS crappy excuse for tunes. On the other hand, Prince is the berries, and then there's my beloved Macy Gray. Literally just a few seconds to click through to my MoreThings archives would give you a clue.

Then again, if you're really into Mariah Carey, you probably wouldn't know what to do with a clue if someone bought one for you.

Macy Gray- now, there's a class act. Every public appearance she's made since she was 'on top' (no whore reference intended), she's been either so drunk or drugged up that she can't even talk, let alone SING.

Prince- can't say anything bad about him as an artist. BUT for your information, Mariah Carey did a cover of a Prince song on an earlier album so apparently Prince must think she has some talent to allow her to cover one of his songs.

Actually, Prince doesn't have to "allow" anyone to cover his songs. I could cover one myself and you could too, so long as we paid the royalties due to him.

Macy Gray is the best thing to happen to r&b since the 1970's.

uao, RIGHT ON! Macy Gray so totally RULES!

You do need permission from an artist to cover one of their songs plus give them royalties.

SSM, you're just flat factually WRONG. After a song has been published for the first time, ANYONE can cover it. They have to pay royalties, and you have to have permission "synchronization rights" to use it in a movie or ad, but a simple audio performance is absolutely fair game.

great title Al, and you sure stirred up the partisans.

SSM, you do not need permission to record a song, just pay royalties as Al mentions

Thanks Eric. In a certain sense, I really enjoyed this album. Sometimes I start out to write a scathing review, but find that there's a little of something good to it- thus I have to temper my criticism. I want to slam on Christina Aguilera, for example, but I would have to concede that "Beautiful" is pretty good.

This album, on the other hand, just so totally blows that I feel license to unload with both barrels. Feels good.

Of course, our visitors are pretty much welcome to write whatever kind of comment responses they want. However, I suggest that it would be not just nicer, but more relevant and interesting for incoming Mariah partisans to write testimonials about what they see in this record rather than silly insults against me. Even if you came up with photographic evidence proving that I'm a no-good pig humper [Hey, how'd you get that picture?], that still wouldn't mean that Mimi is any good.

If you don't need permission to record another's song then what is the purpose of a mechanical license? I know this is a bit off the original subject but it'd be nice to learn something from all this jibber jabber.

good point, but I thought it was a goat

i'm no Mariah Carey fan, but still...you DO know that there have been some really good r&b artists who've put stuff out since the era of al green and aretha?

ps. Macy doesn't count because she's not all that far from Aretha, really.

PS Macy certainly DOES count, cause she's making the best r&b records going.

Moreover, I don't see much close comparison between Macy and Aretha. They might be VERY broadly similar, in that Macy tends somewhat to the old school. That would that old school what believes in SONGWRITING rather than whatever it is you want to call this Mariah Carey foolishness.

Despite having attended the same school, so to speak, I've never heard anything from Aretha that sounds even vaguely like "Happiness" or "My Fondest Childhood Memories."

There may be other r&b singers working today with more supposedly up to date techno beats or whatever, but there ain't any of them that are making records in a league with Macy.

MARIAH DOENST CARE CAUSE SHE IS 2 BUTIFUL TO WORTY ABOUT THE HATERS SHES LIKE THE DOG AND THE BUTTERFLY SHE KNOWS SHE HAS TO FLY CAUSE TONY MOTTOLA COULDNT KEEP HER IN A CAGE SHE KNOWS WHAT LOVE CAN DO AND SHE NEVER STOPS

SO STOP YER HATING AND LETS ALL LIVE TO GETHER AND DO WHAT WE CAN AL

Memo to Island Records: next Mariah album title, 2 BUTIFUL TO WORTY

Al great review, this post gets my vote for the editorial pick.

Mariah's video was a blah but that black dress made quite a statement

Oh hell no. How easy is it to pick on Mariah Carey for being a corporate whore?

He doesn't say anything about her music either.

Al doesn't believe in living together and being happy, Todd. Are you so dense that you are unfamiliar with the VIRTUE of SELFISHNESS, Mr. Todd? There are many mansions in my father's estate, but none for someone who wishes to push the PINKO notion of community and social interaction upon me.

TO BUTIFUL TO WORTY :) I love it.

Geekarific, which is the highest compliment. You are tickling my funny bone today, oh captain my captain.

That is all.

Bob, if you like Al so much why don't you marry him?

...because then he'd be Bob A. Booey-Barger!

but seriously, people on the same level as Macy:

Lauryn Hill
Erykah Badu
Les Nubians
India Arie
Me'Shell NdegéOcello

to cover Prince, you better get his permission or he'll sue.
He hates people to covere his song even when it's not illegal.
Alicia said that when he heard she had covered him, he got his lawyer to tell hers he'll sue.
But then, when he heard the song, he changed his mind.
So if MC didn't get sued, he liked what she did.
+ he owns his own cataloge, so to cover his song on a commercial CD, you DO need his permission.

"Moreover, I don't see much close comparison between Macy and Aretha. They might be VERY broadly similar... "

What the f*ck is wrong with you people.
They have NOTHING in common
Aretha CAN SANG
Macy CAN NOT

You're a looser who only seem to care about "hasbeens" and "neverwas".

Sorry if what I'm gonna say sound racist, but you are the reason why rednecks should NEVER give their opinion when it comes to R&B.
That is a musical genre that you obvioulsly DON'T GET.
Just check her reviews in every r&b and hip hop magazine (commercial or underground) they average 4stars 1/2.
Get a clue!

You're just hating cus you were among the one rijoicing thinking her career was over, and now she's the best selling CD from a female artist in the past 2yrs.
She already sold 5.2 million worldwide and she's still in the top5 ww and in the US after 17 weeks.
Her cd is still sellin 100k a month and she ain't going NOWHERE so get used to her.
Seems like you'll see her at EVERY SINGLE award show comes christmas.

You're just a hating BROKE ASS REDNECK

Well Ryan, yes that comment sounds racist because it just absolutely IS. What, you have to have some special black gene to understand r&b? I'm to assume that you're of African descent, and thus have special authority on the music? Puh-lease. And if you think that Mariah is good singer and Macy isn't, then I must challenge your listening skills. Was you dropped on your head as a child, or what?

Macy is an outstanding composer, and someone in there is a great arranger and producer. But most of all, Macy Gray is one of the singingest chicks on the planet. She's sort of a female Ray Charles with that velvet rasp thing. She's brilliant.

I don't begrudge Mariah Carey making a living. I'm glad she's rich, and I hope she's happy as a person. More power to her. Nonetheless, professionally speaking, her records BLOW.

Plus, you clearly are misinformed about basic music law. You absolutely do not have to have permission to cover a song once it has ever been published. Any schmuck might THREATEN a lawsuit because he doesn't like the way you comb your hair, but it wouldn't get far. Just because you can afford lawyers doesn't mean you can just make everyone do your bidding.

Nothing redneck about me either, and I dig Macy Gray. What's up with the Macy Gray haters out there? Kind hypocritical to pounce on someone for their thoughts on one performer, and then turn around and insult another performer in the same breath. And an entire race of people.

Maybe it's a black thing and I wouldn't understand, but I never really understood what skin pigmentation has to do with music appreciation. However, I do know what ignorance has to do with skin pigmentaion: nothing. Ignorant comments come from all colors of the rainbow. Calling anyone with white skin "redneck" is pretty ignorant. I doubt you enjoy ignorant people calling you names, too.

As for Mariah Carey, all you fans out there ought to feel free to click that album link and stuff her pockets with more cash.

Monsieur Saleski- India.Arie, YES! I'm particularly big on "Promises." This was used very effectively to end a first season episode of The Shield, with a shot of slippery Vic Mackey ending the show as India sings "A man's only as good as his wo-o-ord."

ah, here's another one i couldn't remember last night: Angelique Kidjo

and also Leela James. her latest cd is in my "to review" pile. quite good.

Todd [comment 48], you're pretty clever, ain't ya? You did that cheesy idiot dippy teenage fan profundity thing so good that I was taking it straight until I saw your return address in my email. Fished in! Two points for you.

Mark, Thanks. I'll have to be looking for these gals.

If you look at The Emanicpation of Mimi's page on Amazon.com, you will see that there are 736 reviews, and that it has an average rating of four and a half stars. Now unless all those 736 reviews are from Mariah fanatics, I'd say that's pretty good proof that the majority of the people who bought the CD loved it and (gasp) disagree with you. You want more proof? The following albums also have hundreds of reviews and a four and a half star average:

Greatest Hits
Mariah Carey
Butterfly
Music Box
Daydream
Rainbow
Emotions
Charmbraclet
Merry Christmas
MTV Unplugged

There are only two that don't, The Remixes and Glitter, and even those have a four star average. Also, real critics have called TEOM her best since Butterfly, which is quite a compliment considering Rainbow and Charmbraclet also recieved mostly positive reviews. You say you like Macy because she's a "SONGWRITER". Well, I've got news for you. Mariah wrote the lyrics and co-wrote the music to damn near every song she's ever sang. Macy's hit single record and album sales speak for themselves.
In conculsion, Al, I'm not trying to bash you. I'm merely saying that your weak attempts to discredit Mariah and her music are sad and low. You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but next time Mariah releases the biggest album of the year, kindly keep it to yourself.

Mike, perhaps you misunderstand me. I do not especially wish to "discredit" Ms Carey. I proclaim your basic point that this is a huge hit starting with the very title of the review.

But are you saying that hit albums are above criticism? If it's a hit but I think it sucks donkey balls I have a social obligation to shut up?

Nay, I say. I'm on a crusade for Moorish dignity. Mariah Carey must be put to the lash, post haste!

Mariah Carey must be put to the lash

i'd pay to see that.

"That would that old school what believes in SONGWRITING rather than whatever it is you want to call this Mariah Carey foolishness."

Sorry, you insinuated that MC did not write her song.
Not only she wrote 90% of her songs l by herself.
But she coproduced all of them because she is a "melodically driven writter", as she expolained in Oprah in 07 that means that everytime she writer a sentence, it comes to her attacehd with the melody.
She can't do just 1 or the other.
Therefore, even tough she merely participated in the production of the instrumental she is still a coproducer.

And you're the hypocrite. You're the one who started with the personal attck, just because you don't like MC, you don't need to have all that lexic about her being a whore/a corporate whore....
She's a human being and a strong women who's been through the worst possible type of ridicule during the glitter era and still succed in making it through.
She's a soldier and an inspiration for that.
A lot of people turned to drug for less (e.g Elvis, whitney...)
She deserve respect even from jalous critics.

And NO.
Pigmentation as nothing to do with r&b.
Jon B is a great r&b singer and has good taste.
But CULTURE sure as to do with it.
If you grew listning 90% of time rock or country, you have NO CLUE what good r&b is.
Same for me, I mostly listened to hip/hop and r&b, to me hard rock (metal or whatever the nae is has NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER). Even that "Kurt Cobin is untolerable to my ears.
The only rockers I like are Aerosmith and Bon Jovi.
Therefore you'll never catch me writting such a hateful and jugemental review on a rock artist cus I admit I just don't get what the hell anybody would like in that stuff.
I'm sure you don't like beyonce, justin Timberlake...
And that's your right, but leave your high horse, you are NO Truth teller.

Please, stop dissing Ray Charles, he has nothing to do with macy gray.
That b*tch doesn't have a "velvet rasp thing", she simply CAN NOT SING.
She has no power and the rasp that you're talking about is due to her alcohol and drug abuse, nothing else.
She is a sad exuse for a mom or a women.

I can't understand how can anybody have ANY RESPECT for that junkie.
On the other side MC is a srtong black woman who made it against the toughest odds.

Ryan, just for a second, I started to feel bad about trash talking on Mariah with the corporate whore stuff. As Elvis once said, I almost had a weakness.

Then I put the damned album on again. I'm subjecting myself once again to Mimi. Feel my spirit of artistic contempt rising again. I think I'ma write a column on the all time worst contrived corporate rock. Bet she'll be on it.

Now, I absolutely did not intend to imply that Mariah does not write her own songs- not that there'd be anything wrong with having outside songwriters. What we have here is failure to communicate. That's not what I meant.

It's not that she didn't write the songs, it's that she didn't write GOOD songs. Indeed, if she got some top drawer songwriters to give her more interesting songs, she'd probably make a better record.

She wrote melodies, granted, just not very interesting or memorable ones. I'll give you that these are better songs than, say, RATM. For what it's worth, you could not entirely unreasonably argue that having melodies at all puts this album above average on the chart at this point. This is probably better than, say, anything I've heard from The Game.

Again, my beef is purely professional. I ain't mad at her. I'm glad that she's successful in the business. Good for her, and good for you if Mimi does it for you.

But I need to wrap up and post this. I was just recovering from listening to this crappy record a couple of days ago when I wrote the original review, and now I can feel it shutting down my valve again. The Mariah mynx must be put to the lash.

Ryan, why you insist on hatin' on Macy? Are you jealous because she gets so much more musical respect than your preferred pop tart?

Notice how I oh so carefully refrain from cracking on her private life, speculating about her Mottola marriage or other things that I don't know about. It would be nice if you showed similarly angelic restraint.

You need to PLAY NICE.

"I listen to to the record good and careful several times, looking for anything worthwhile ..blah blah blah.."

Idiot. stop your blah blah shit. go ..go and fuck britney.. and sing with her .."I love Rock and Roll..".
and if thats not enough, cry hoarse over KD and jack off on your own..

btw,
just to ask you.. were you recently dumped? ..he haw..no wonder "we belong together" seems SHIT to you.. and she a corporate whore..

he haw haw ha.. chutiya.

I'm surprised that with the massive crop of Rnb artists out there over the past 20 years, you selected Macy Gray as the best.

Macy Gray? even over current artists like Erykah Badu, Alicia Keys, Jill Scott, India Arie, Musiq, R Kelly, D'Angelo, Faith Evans...?

Macy Gray? Are you kidding me?

Wow. If that doesn't put a dent in your supposed credibility then I don't know what will.

I just find it interesting that you would review an artist you have no interest in whatsoever, or a style of music you don't activily follow or even like. My suspicion here is that you got exactly what you intended. Exposure for you blog.

Knowing how vapid and aggressive most Mariah fans you knew you would get a massive amount of visits and comments. I won't be surprised if this is your most visited or most commented blog ever.

Anyway, your review does come across very biased and highly inflammatory which doesn't help with any other valid points you made about her music or the album.

Obviously Mariah is not the best singer in the world or the most artistic, but most critics and the public alike would rank her in the top 5 female vocalists certainly of our era, if not all time.

While a good number of her songs are disposable, you would be apt to discredit her artistry for writing all her songs (even some very goods) and co-producing all her works that have led to one of the biggest chart and commercial successes of the modern era.

I do think that Mariah is a particularly driven woman when it comes to commercial success, which may have driven a lot of her earlier material and caused a very mainstream sound. But to call this album "crap" in any objectable measure really diminishes your writing as a "journalist" or whatever you are.

Anyway, good luck with this. Hopefully you next album review generates this much interest......or you may have to wait another year for some new Mariah Carey works to slander.

You could always do a post-review of her earlier albums, you could have a field day with "Glitter". Hey, even I might join you on that one.

Damn!! Is it possible to review
something without being so venemous?
I do not really like her album
either, but like Mariah as much as
I do KD Lang. As an African and a
gay man all this crazy judgement
from the west amazes me!! Yes KD
is a FAR more respectable artist,
but you have to understand where
Mariah's style is coming from.

She is chanelling
great black super sopranos like
Minnie Ripperton, Denise Williams,
and so many other great gospel
sopranos. That style of singing
that Mariah is doing is a black
invention. So many talented black
women have gone to the highest
reaches of the vocal register
before Mariah made it a main-
stream thing.

I love KD because
she is true to herself and the
epitome of an artist. But Frankly
Mariah Carey is just as talented
in her corporate crazy ass (yes
I think she's a nutjob, but it
just makes her more endearing) I
want to please all sort of way.

I know I am
going to get alot of hate for my
opinion , I am bracing for the
nigger/faggot/African responses,
but the fact is Mariah/Minnie R.
, Macy/Billie Holiday , and
KD/Patsy Kline are all talented
women with completely different
styles.
Peace to All

Al, you call her a whore? Do you even know what a whore is? It takes one to know one, and it's more than obvious you aren't getting laid. Seriously... look at this guy.

How can I envy Macy Grey?
I didn't even know she was still doing music to be honnest.
Since her 2nd CD flopped big time, i havn't heard from her EVER.
More respect than MC in the music world?
1st, i'll doubt it
2nd, "Mariah Carey, however, has nothing to say beyond "buy my album.""?
What about macy who wears a dress to an award show and begging people to read the words on her ASS saying
"my album is out on sep..., Buy it"
How is that for being the ULTIMATE corporate whore.
yOU'RE ACTING LIKE SHE CHOSE TO BE UNDERGROUND, SHE'S UNDERGROUND BECAUSE she doesn't have the choice.
The people massively rejuected all her flops.
3rd, nobody cares about what a small group of "elites" think. Mariah has been chosen has the greatest voice alive by millions upon millions of people in the whole world.
4th, As Paula abdul says: Nobody grows up wanting to be a critic.
You most definitly sound like an disullusioned singer who couldn't make it.

All that: "and the squealing away in a high register with patently fake waves of vocal orgasms. She might as well just name an album Oh Baby, It's So Big!"
was not necessary.

We (mariah fans) can take constructive criticism, but all that hate was NOT required.
What goes around comes back around

OMG, is that "Al Barger" in that pic?

ROFL. A libertarian who idolizes Johnny Cash and K.D. Lang reviewing Mariah Carey?

ROFL!!!!!

I won't even comment on his looks....

LOL
Damn, you are SO UGLY and FAT.
LOL
No wonder why you're hating on beautiful women.
When was the last time you've been able to get some?
LOL
Actually, i feel for you looking the way you do.
It's just too funny.
It proves my point: You couldn't make in the show bizness with that look lol.
People hate on MC cus she' rich, young and beatiful.
Do like MC and US (The mtv generation). WE'RE YOUNG AND SEXY CUS we eat good and exercise 4* a week.
It's funny, everytime I put a long sleeve shirt on, haters always tell me "I didn't know you had regular shirts", b/c I always wear tank tops.
I can show off my body AS MUCH AS I WANT, so can MC.
Where are yall when we are killing ourselves at the gym?
KEEP ON HATING ON THE YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL WON'T CHANGE YOU LOOK

And you stay in Indianna?
The largest KKK chapter of this nation.
I was obviously right to call you a redneck, i could just feel it in your tone.
The only black artist that you like seems to be the "junkies", the ones who give our people a bad name "billie holyday, macy grey...."

MAF, easy now. I've got no intention or desire of harshing on you. You have come in being friendly and civil, even to disagree. Thank you.

The only racially oriented comments are coming from this Ryan dude- and I'm not even bashing on him. He does, however, start to sound like Eddie Murphy's paranoid Kit character from Bowfinger, counting the number of Ks in a screenplay and dividing by three.

You're totally cool though MAF, and I encourage you to drop in more comments about this or any other column at Blogcritics, especially mine.

I can see why this particular review seems harsh, but I stress again that I mean this professionally. It's "corporate whore." I don't know or care or presume to speculate about her private life.

However, this album sounds like a crass, market research driven product, rather than any real attempt at speaking from the heart. And if you think I'm bashing her, you should see some of what I've written on latter day Springsteen. That dude was really cheesing me off.

It's not that MC just has no talent. She certainly has a good vocal instrument, but it's the use that she's putting it to what hits my yuck button. It's not that I object to climbing up into the high end of the vocal range. Hey, use your whole range. She does not sound to me like a gospel singer in the grip of the holy spirit though, but more like a hooker acting a part for a trick.

I listen to a lot of gospel music, white and black. I've been into Albertina Walker in particular in the last year. "How I Got Over" has been a big favorite. You ever hear the Trumpeteers? "This Is a Mean Old World" really does it for me.

I've never really listened to Minnie Ripperton, but I've become a big enough fan of her daughter to be wanting to check Mom out. Any particular suggestions there?

Ryan, trust me, Billie Holiday does not give "your people" a bad name.

Perhaps Master Ryan would like to discuss who does and doesn't make black folk look bad.

However, I would hasten to reassure him that I do not hold Mariah Carey's bad musical reputation against his people. Partly that is because I don't particularly think of her as African-American, though I know in theory that she is so considered.

Still, to me Mariah seems closer to Britney Spears than to the sainted Aretha. I'm just saying.

John [comment 72], I'd probably pick Macy as best new female r&b artist of the last 20 years, depending on how far you stretch that definition. Do you count Tracy Chapman as "r&b" for example?

But somewhere near equal to Macy in classic modern r&b from the penis having side of the aisle, I put a lot of stock in Sananda Matreiya, formerly known as Terence Trent D'Arby. He rules.

Then of course there's the 800 lb gorilla in the modern r&b living room, the Beatles of funk whose daddy named him Prince.

"Perhaps Master Ryan would like to discuss who does and doesn't make black folk look bad."
Yes, i'd like to.
And I don't care if you're value system is all messed up but NO MATTER HOW TALENTED of a singer Billie Holliday is, she is a women before anything else and she failed as a women/mother.
On my list you'll find NO JUCKIES:
Will Smith is a fine black role model.
Denzel Washington is somebody any race should look up to.
Mariah Carey is a strong willed black women who made it through the toughness of those media w/o devlopping a bad habbits.
Oprah is great sister/american.
Bill Cosby is great too.
Jill Sctoot, Toni Braxton and the list goes on and on...

"she came on very much like the faux hysterics of a prostitute. She came on with the athleticism, and the squealing away in a high register with patently fake waves of vocal orgasms. She might as well just name an album Oh Baby, It's So Big!"

How can't you see that you're not just calling her a corporate whore.
Obviously, you're saying that her singing style is whorish too.

MC is NO britney. britney will never pull off songs such "Vision of Love", "make it happen", "Love takes time" ,"If it's over", "butterfly", "breakdown"...
It really seems to me that you don't know what you're talking about.
Have even heard her discography?

Ryan said: "Mariah Carey is a strong willed black women who made it through the toughness of those media"

Mariah Carey is black ?!?!? Isn't her father Venezuelan/African? That would make her 1/4 black; one could also argue she's Venezuelan, using the same formula.

She's also 1/2 Irish, because of her mother.

So isn't Mariah Carey an Irishwoman, more than anything? Or a Latina, as much as black?

This is why those people, black and white, who are hung up on race are really wasting their lives.

Because, frankly, there is no such thing as race. The "1/4 rule" is a leftover from the slave days that is better off forgotten.

Someday the world will relaize what science already knows: there is no such thing as "race", it's an artificial concept, and a fairly recent one in the history of mankind.

It's a concept slave traders used to justify their actions; the sooner whites and blacks discard that notion and raise their children accordingly, the sooner we can be done with this useless fight, and turn both of our attention to those things that are real.

Ryan had a point when he was upset at Al for picking on Mariah Carey (although Al had every right to do so; as a celebrity producing consumer product, Carey is subject to critique as much as anyone); he's entitled to defend her career as much as he wants to.

But Ryan is waaaay off base turning this into a racial issue, bringing in the KKK, trucking out "redneck". Al was reviewing what he saw as crassness in Carey's product, not what he thinks of black people.

Equating Indiana with the KKK is just as stupid as if I said everyone in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Los Angeles are on dope. I'd be a racist if I did that, or thought that.

It's also low to make fun of Al's picture. Let's see yours, Ryan.

On the drug issue, it's nice you don't support junkies, ryan. So Billie Holiday gives your people a bad name. Does Ray Charles? Jimi Hendrix? George Clinton? By the way, heroin isn't a "black" thing either. I guess whites ought to be embarrassed by John Lennon, Eric Clapton, Steve Earle, an U2-- all junkies at one time or another. If we erased every drug user from history, there wouldn't be a whole lot of musicians left.

Dude, if Al doesn't like Carey and likes Macy Gray instead, then that's his musical taste. As many have pointed out, nothing he said is going to hurt Carey or her sales. So why all the hate?

However, as someone who his 5/8 Irish myself, I'm gonna have to ask Al: what's up hatin' on the Irish, bro? Mariah Carey is one of my people...

Ryan writes, "you're saying that her singing style is whorish too."

Yes, I'm saying that much of her singing style strikes me as whorish, as fake waves of pretend emotion. That is still not saying anything about her personl life.

I was being a bit facetious comparing her to Britney. Even I recognize that Mariah Carey is a real singer, even if she's singing crappy songs. Of course she's more skilled that Britney. Still- and this was my point with the comparison- MC's records sound more to me like the crass commercial style of Britney than to the roots of gospel and soul coming from Aretha.

I just do not pick out music based on who I think is a good role model. I know Billie Holiday was a junkie, but I haven't picked up all the specific details because I don't really care. She's long dead, and those things don't make any difference now anyway.

However, she was as fine a jazz singer as ever stepped to a mic, and they can't take that away from her. She's gone, but those records are still classic for all time.

Billie Holiday managed to accomplish something worthwhile with her life, despite her personal demons. That accomplishment is far more significant than her foibles. I still listen to Michael Jackson records, too.

Will Smith seems like a fine fellow, but he's not really a musician. He's a celebrity and an actor, and sometimes he gets slowed down for a minute to make a record.

I'm much more interested in who has accomplished something noteworthy than in who was clean living or a nice guy.

Also though, I'm not inclined to think of people as exemplars of race. Elvis wasn't a white guy- he was Elvis Frickin' Presley. Duke Ellington wasn't a black guy- he was Duke Ellington, and perhaps the finest musician America has produced. And also, if you're interested in such things, Duke was probably a much finer personal role model than Elvis.

And 100 years from now, Elvis and Duke Ellington and Billie Holiday will still be well known figures and Mariah will be long forgotten.

Mariah forgotten? I agree with
alot of what you may say Al.
But as much as we would like
for deeper more revolutionary
artist to be remembered, Mariah
is going to deeply engrained
into people's minds after she
is gone. Here in Africa even
villagers know Mariah.

Her affect
on pop culture is evident
everytime you put on these
talent hunt shows like the
absurdly famous American
Idol. All the girls seem
to be trying to do her
runs, trills, and vocal acr-
obatics. I understand how
easy it is to dislike an
artist like Mariah, I wish
her depth matched her abilty.

And when I
say her voice is derived from
gospel music, I'm not saying
that she sings like she is in
a choir on her CD's. I was
saying that is what her voice
is modeled after.

As an African
I can even hear my roots in
Ms. Carey's voice behind all
that corporate glair and polish.
I really wish she had more to
say though, because her voice
is a formidable instrument
indeed.

Frankly I think the
world needs campy pop culture
icons ( She has a frigging
cult in Africa )like her.
We need John Grisham and
Stephen King as much as we
need the Faulkners, Kerouacs,
and George Elliots.

To her credit,
she has to be doing something
right to have sold 150 million
albums. I belive the figure,
because everyone I know who
can afford it here has her
entire frigging library. I
was blessed to visit Japan
last year July, and they love
her there too. I even have some
of her CD's in my Library.

True, she is no
Albertina Walker, Rev. Shirley,
or the grossly underated and
unappreciated Jennifer Holiday.
But, Mariah fills her role.
And it seems what she represents
to you ( satanic megacorps), is
making you judge her to harshly.
She is not your cup of tea. That
is fine. But using the word "whore"
on Mariah seems a bit much when
Condoleeza Rice lives in your
country.

At least she puts
her gifts to good use and makes
people happy.

Let me point out that very VERY few young people have any clue who Billie Holiday is. I would also have to say that less than .1% know who Duke Elington is. And the only reason that Elvis is known is because thousands upon thousands of house mothers are still swooning over his bloated dead body. Sad that he has a better chance of being a man-whore than yourself.

And I love how you say Will Smith isn't a musician. I like to believe that any artist who wins a grammy, is a musician.

I'm sure the still-living half of Milli Vanilli is grateful for that.

Stripped, keep trying.

Good catch. Doesn't mean that every Grammy winner is a good musician. Of course, I don't the Grammy has a lot of credibility.

Thank you BAM, your post was great.
I'd like to say sorry for being overly agressive too. But as yall know, MC fans (lambs) are VERY passionate when it comes to her b/c she is very toughful compare to other artist (leaving voicemail every week on her website and often spontaniously inviting fans who come to show love at her hotel around the world to spend the whole afternnon with her).
I respect critics and different opinion, but I still beleive that this review was VERY VISCIOUS.
She is a human being and deserves to be treated with respect like any other.

So I repeat it: I AM SORRY.

Moreover, the reason I refer to her as a black women is not baser on the 1/8 rules in some US slave states.
And her father is 100% black.
Yes,he's from venuzuela but he was a BLACK venuzuelian. Not a mixed one.
But yeah, as science teaches us, there's no such thing as diffrent human race.
Back on focus, the reason I refer to her as a black woman is not b/c of her biological background, but b/c of her sociological one.
She had to move 11 times in 10 yrs b/c of her race. She had her dog poisonned b/c of her race. Her life experience is definitly the one of a black kid in the 70s.
That is why I call her a black woman.
If you're not a black personn living in the US, it is harder for you to understand that.
And it's ok. I respect it too.

The thing I don't get is why is it so bad for an artist to just wanna make people feels good and empower.
Contrary to withney Houston or Celine Dion MC music is not especially about love.
Untill now (we belong together), her biggest hits were NOT love song contrary to what lazy people who won't do their homework assumes; but INSPIRATIONAL songs.
Ask any MC fans they'll tell you that their favorite songs are:
Hero, 1 sweet day and Make it happen.
Those are songs that empower people and make them feel like they can conquer the world and make it through any hardship.
Those are the one she were ask to sing after 9/11, at the M.Jordan retirement party, at the live8.
So i disagree strongly when you say she has NOTHING TO SAY.
A lot of people were saying how she was a star with no flavor b/c they tough her life was a cinderella story.
Then GLITTER happened, she got dumped by Luis when she was talking marriage, and in the same year her dad she just reconciliated with died.
People though MC was a stupid, weak, hypocritical dumb blond b/c unlike Madonna or Whitney, MC doesn't bark back.
They tought she was retiring or something and that she just accepted her failure.
But NO!
MC doesn't talk the talk but she surely walk the walk.
She made it through and for that her fans love her even more.
Now when she sings "hero", "make it happen", "1 sweet day" It makes it so much realer.

The thing I don't get is why is it so bad for an artist to just wanna make people feels good and empower.
Contrary to withney Houston or Celine Dion MC music is not especially about love.
Untill now (we belong together), her biggest hits were NOT love song contrary to what lazy people who won't do their homework assumes; but INSPIRATIONAL songs.
Ask any MC fans they'll tell you that their favorite songs are:
Hero, 1 sweet day and Make it happen.
Those are songs that empower people and make them feel like they can conquer the world and make it through any hardship.
Those are the one she were ask to sing after 9/11, at the M.Jordan retirement party, at the live8.
So i disagree strongly when you say she has NOTHING TO SAY.
A lot of people were saying how she was a star with no flavor b/c they tough her life was a cinderella story.
Then GLITTER happened, she got dumped by Luis when she was talking marriage, and in the same year her dad she just reconciliated with died.
People though MC was a stupid, weak, hypocritical dumb blond b/c unlike Madonna or Whitney, MC doesn't bark back.
They tought she was retiring or something and that she just accepted her failure.
But NO!
MC doesn't talk the talk but she surely walk the walk.
She made it through and for that her fans love her even more.
Now when she sings "hero", "make it happen", "1 sweet day" It makes it so much realer.

There's a hero If you look inside your heart
You don't have to be afraid Of what you are
There's an answer If you reach into your soul
And the sorrow that you know Will melt away

And then a hero comes along
With the strength to carry on
And you cast your fears aside
And you know you can survive
So when you feel like hope is gone
Look inside you and be strong
And you'll finally see the truth
That a hero lies in you

It's a long road When you face the world alone No one reaches out a hand For you to hold You can find love If you search within yourself And the emptiness you felt Will disappear

Chorus

Lord knows Dreams are hard to follow But don't let anyone Tear them away Hold on There will be tomorrow
In time, You'll find the way

Chorus

Make it Happen Lyrics
Artist(Band):Mariah Carey Review The Song (1) Print the Lyrics

Make it Happen

Not more than three short years ago
I was abandoned and alone
Without a penny to my name
So very young and so afraid
No proper shoes upon my feet
Sometimes I couldn't even eat
I often cried myself to sleep
But still I had to keep on going
Never knowing if I could take it
If I would make it through the night
I held on to my faith
I struggled and I prayed
And now I've found my way

Chorus:
If you believe in yourself enough
And know what you want
You're gonna make it happen
(Make it happen)
And if you get down on your
knees at night
And pray to the Lord
He's gonna make it happen
(Make it happen)

I know life can be so tough
And you feel like giving up
But you must be strong
Baby just hold on
You'll never find the answers
if you throw your life away
I used to feel the way you do
Still I have to keep on going
Never knowing if I could take it
If I would make it through the night
I held on to my faith
I struggled and I prayed
And now I've finally found my way

Chorus

I once was lost
But now I'm found
I got my feet on solid ground
Thank you Lord
If you believe within your soul
Just hold on tight
And don't let go
You can make it happen
(Make it happen)
Chorus

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Sorry, I never told you, all I wanted to say.
Now it's too late to hold you. '
Cause you've flown away, so far away.

Never, Had I imagined, yeah, living without your smile.
Feelin' and knowing you hear me.
It keeps me alive. Alive!

And I know you're shining down on me from Heaven,
Like so many friends we've lost along the way,
And I know eventually we'll be together.
One sweet day.
Picture a little scene from Heaven.

Darling, I never showed you.
Assumed you'd always be there.
I took your presence for granted.
But I always cared
And I miss the love we shared

chorus

Although, the sun will never shine the same, I'll
always look to a brighter day.

Yeah, Lord, I know, when I lay me down to sleep,
You'll always listen, as I pray!

And I know you're shining down on me from Heaven,
Like so many friends we've lost along the way,
And I know eventually we'll be together.
One sweet day.

chorus

Sorry, I Never told you, all I wanted to say

sorry for posting her songs in here, but it seems some of yall need to be educated on her work.
This can hardly be called "bad lyrics", "nothing to say."

Ryan:

Re: comment 93.

I apologize also if I sounded harsh; I just wanted to make sure I had your attention.

I'm a white guy in America. Never lived in the South; born and raised in NYC, I live in LA.

I did spend 8 years outside of the country in Asia. Guess what, bro? Us few whites and blacks hung out together, partied together, traded music, confided, all kinds of cool stuff. Because in Aisia, we were ALL foreigners. The Asians didn't give a crap what color we were; they're all colors, too. And most of us, of all visiting colors, didn't know where-from-the-who-what in Asia.

After 8 years there, coming back was a bummer trip. I felt like I outgrew racial distinction completely, and I returned to America to see the same childish shit trailing on, with ignorance fully entrenched on any side of the fence. Jeez, I can't help where my gratgrandaddy came from any more that you can; you and I and Al and Mariah Carey and 6.5 billion are all shipmates on this doomed rowboat I call "Humanity"

So as far as I'm concerned, any discussion of Maraih Carey's music that plays a racial card, from reviewer or commenter, is out of line, period.

You apologized, and it's all good. Again I apologize for sensitivity on the racial issue. I have been on the mountain, and seen how it ought to be, and even is, in some places.

re: Mariah Carey, and Al's review.

First off let's face it, neither you nor Al will change the other's mind about the merits of her music.

So, I'm going to postulate that Al, when admitting: I immediately concede that this review will be unfair to Mariah Carey, in that I've been steeping in real music. was in fact alerting Carey fans to his bias, and forewarning them that his review wasn't about her music so much as it was in her porduct, and promotion thereof.

If Maraih Carey makes you happy, then God bless her heart, and I say that as a non-fan. Nobody is an artist unless they make somebody feel something (happy, sad, angry, anything). So I respect Carey as an artist for reaching her fans on such a deep and personal level.

Al, I suspect (I'm not speaking for him just about how I percieve his intentions) sees Carey as focusing on the "deliver the product" aspect of music creation, and he prefers those who contribute the idiosyncracies that make something not obviously hitworthy.

Carey fans will say she delivers those idiosyncracies, in addition to talent, stick-to-itiveness in the face of racism, an a personal dialogue with fans few provide.

My own personal disinclination to listen to Carey aren't racial or even the-cat-just-can't-hear-r&b style. I just think her showboating of her voal octave range robs her songs of meaning a less-talented performer might give them, while putting the focus squarely on her. In this respect, she becomes a circus performer (worthy of respect), but loses emotional connection.

With me. You might see it differently; it's all good.

God bless her for spreading joy. And forgive some of us for being raised on rock 'n' roll and maybe not getting Carey's appeal, and a lot of other things.

Just as you yourself admitted that your musical universe was based on different genres, a different paradigm.

So a good retort to (very patient, given this thread) Al might be, "Here's what you fail to see, for these reasons. And here's what I see, for these reasons"

I butted in because racial stuff (from any race) disturbs me, and I always feel like I have to comment; I'm just a product of my own life. That shit really saps energy from life, and we just don't need it. Especially these days.

I respect your opinion, Ryan, you're cool.

I'd like to agree-to-disagree on Mariah. Maybe you and Al might find such a space?

Macy Gray is good at what she
does, but to call her r&b is
to put her in a box. Because
she is black does not mean
her music is r&b, the same
goes for Prince and Sananda.
They have tons of rock and
folk infused into thier music.

Musical genres
can't be determined by race. It
is true that certain races own
certain genres historically, but
history itself has shown that
boundaries where meant to be
breached. Mariah is not a soul
singer based on her racial
makeup, but because she has
enough soul to reach to the folks
who invented it. Namely black
people. How do you explain stars
like Lisa Stansfield and Jon B
making it big on black stations?

The race problem in
America always makes me sad when I
am there. I see the white fear and
feel the black anger from my own
people. I really hope you guys
work it out.

hi guys, knows this maybe a bit late, havnt had time to check this page in a couple of days, been out and about.

But if i do recall that yes celine dion did become the biggest selling female artist of all time last year,taking over mariah careys title, but now with the release of the emanicipation, she has retained that title of the biggest selling female artist IN HISTORY!, 16 no.1's only three more and she will pass elvis. Madonna has come nowhere near mariah, yeah madonna has had an impact for sure on music over the past i dont know how many decades but in mariahs short period of time been an artists wouldnt you say she has made a bigger impact on music?

just something to thnk about. Mariah is a great artist, and through my life, her music has got me through some tough times.............

Cheers

Celine Dion's ears were just burning hot as she read all this hype about arch-rival Mariah, so she told yeahwhatever, her sycophant lackey publicist, to promote her long-ago-went-Vagas-for-the-drunk-and-old-crowd music. Okay yeahwhatever, yeah whatever.

This list still has that old forgotten crow Madonna as #1 female artist in sales.

Top-100 selling artists, worldwide*

From answers.com, quoting wiki

If you go by total number of charting singles, Aretha Franklin is still Queen. Of anyone.

righto, fair enough........i accept that yeah madonna may of sold more albums, but not by many.

Ryan, thanks for your apology. Accepted. Let's be pals.

Also, I recognize that I'm pretty good at pushing people's buttons. You were harshing on me pretty bad there for a minute, but I was taking a pretty tough line on Mariah. I can appreciate the extent of your identification with your idol. Hey, I probably deserve a little slapping around from time to time.

Again though, my criticism is strictly professional. I think UAO misunderstands- which may be my fault. I am not at all trying to write about her promotional efforts or personal life, but just about what's on the records.

After listening to KD and June Carter's realness, MC sounds fake and contrived to me. It happened to be KD and June that I have recently been digging, but could as easy have been the Soul Stirrers and Robert Johnson.

Also though, it is limited criticism. Note that I never say anything like that she is "stupid, weak, hypocritical." I absolutely do not even vaguely think any of those things about her. She seems like a pretty tough broad.

Ryan and Yeahwhatever, I do not begrudge you your Mariah Carey. She really actively hits my yuck buttons- as I think I've made abundantly clear, but I recognize that she's certainly one of the bigger selling artists ever. I have trouble believing that anyone will care about her music a couple of generations down the line. But then, I can't see what y'all are seeing in it now.

However, if Mariah does it for you, more power to you. For my part, I'd be happy to see either or both of you become members of Blogcritics, and post album-by-album or even song-by-song notes on Mariah and why you think they're so cool.

That list is B.S b/c it comes from different sourses.
It CAN NOT be accurate.
The world music award (in monte carlo)have been tracking the sales for years b/c all there award are solely based on sales.
And they give that title to MC.
Morover, another source RIAA, based solely on US sales gives the edge on MC over Madonna and just trailing Barbara Streisand (in the USA only).


This list was last updated last christmas. The Emmancipation just reached 4*platinum and is still in the top5 selling 100k+ a week.
It is safe to say that by the end of this year MC will be AT LEAST 2million in front of Madonna.

And if you got the list of 100 best seilling album in the world, M. Jackson and Mariah are the only one with 5 solo album on the list.
Celine and Madonna got "only 4".

Thanks for that link, uao. I was surprised to see some artists from the 1950s, like Ricky Nelson, ranked so high. More power to him.

I'll play nice this time and keep further editorial comments to myself...like the one about Garth Brooks' high rank!?!. Oops, that one comment just slipped out :->

Comparing Madonna and Mariah's influences is kinda fonky.
Madonna is what you call an engaged artist. She give her opinion on daily things that touches (in a bad or goog way)everybody. She has a bigger social impact than MC. (emmancipated homosexuality, anti war, female role in sex, religion....)

She got a big impact in the career building field too. She invented cheap publicity stunts that janet and Xtina are using (sex, erotica, kissing britney, conic bra...), and proved that Every publicity is good publicity. She devlopped the promotion by controversy that Eminem has been using too.

Mariah on the other side has more impact on MUSIC in itself. She popularised the use of Melisma and in EVERY music competition girls try to sound like her.
Her style is soooo overwhelmingly popular that the judge of Amerivan Idol had to ban her songs from the audition b/c Simmon was tired of all hearing ALL THOSE GIRLS tring to perform that vocal gymnastic.

The biggest actual stars SINGERS all cited MC as their #1 musical inspiration: Xtina aguilera, Beyonce, Jessica simpson...
And you can easily hear it.
All of themn are often criticised for OVERsinging.

I guess the lesson we've all learned is: some people like Mariah's music and some don't. To some people, "Hero" is a schmaltzy piece of garbage, but to some, it made them re-think suicide attempts. Al has sort of redeemed himself in some of his comments, and I thank him for that. However, I must disagree with him on one thing- the lasting of Mimi's impact. As a music reviewer, you are probably familiar with the popular trend of female pop/R&B singers doing collabarations with gangsta rappers. Recent examples include X-tina's Dirrty, Beyonce's Crazy In Love, Ciara's Goodies, Gwen Stefani's Rich Girl, etc, etc. This was virtually unheard of until 1995 when Mariah collaborated with ODB for her Fantasy remix. The remix would debut at #1 and stay there for many, many weeks, becoming a 90's classic. Before I end this, I would like to point out that a singer who has a 15-year career is rare; an artist who comes back from a flop movie, two flop CDs, a failed relationship, her father dying, her label paying her 28 million to go away, and being checked into a hospital...and releases the biggest album and single of the year...that's pretty amazing, regarding whatever you think of Mariah's musical styles.

Brother Ryan, I'm afraid I'd have to dock Mariah a few points if I were holding her responsible for Christina Aguilera- much less Jessica Simpson. Though I must admit to seconding Eminem's analysis re: Jessica Simpson. "Nick, I ain't never seen an 'Ass Like That.'"

Still, I detest American Idol as a pestilence upon the land. Your remarks sound easy to believe. I can see how all these talent show types want to go for those identifiably Mariah influenced gymnastics. That stuff is just the kind of annoying surface level stuff these shows promote.

She definitely gets docked for the American Idolization of America.

I guess it's about taste.
I think that coming from a Britney era (1998-2002), people are happy to finnaly hear singers who can actually sing live.
I think that Kelly Clarckson deserves her success, she won a SINGING talent show over hundreds of thousands of people.
Yes, after that, the succes was immediate and easy to get.
But winning that SINGING talent show was NOT easy.
I don't understand why when something is mainstream, it is seen by some as "cheaper".
Elvis was seen as a cheap cheesy singer when he was alive b/c of his teen appeal, now, critics talk about him like he was the best thing EVER.
Same goes with the beattles who were seen as just another boys band like the backstreet boys.
Xtina cd "striped" is a peace of art, a masterpeace.
I LOVE songs such as "walk away", "beautiful"....
She has a lot of personnality.
Yes, the was she came out was not the smartest, but she wanted to make a statement.
And she obviously got her point across.
Anyway, I think that ones commercial success will determine is place in history once they're gone.
The only way one can really end up remember his through millions of fans still swearing by that artist once he's gone.

AL...GET READY TO LAUGH. LOOK AT THE NEW WEBSITE MARIAH CAREY'S "LAMBS" HAVE CREATED. THIS WILL MAKE YOUR DAY!

www.wisethinker.com/teamlamb

Oh,and I think Britney Spears is a FAR MORE talented vocalist than Dog Whistle. At least when Britney sings, I don't imagine someone clawing their fingernails on a chalkboard.

Oh Rand have mercy on this Team Lamb dude. I believe he has already contributed to this comments thread.

HIS MARIAH CAREY WEBSITE

What's really amusing about his site is the basic strategy of purposely engineering a public trashing of Madonna in order to supposedly help re-establish Mariah's place as top female artist.

It's not very nice, granted, but I have to say that it's pretty amusing. The site's more an anti-Madonna site than a pro-Mariah one, really. He has a whole page with links to Amazon review submission pages for various Madonna albums with action alert links such as "Click here to trash 'Bedtime Stories'
TRASH MADONNA

OK Ryan, I'll concede that Kelly Clarkson and some of the other American Idols are obviously better singers than Britney or Ashlee Nepotistic Lip-Synching Simpson. However, that seems to me to be setting the bar WAY too low.

Also, in fairness re: Christina, I'll give you "Beautiful." That one is a pretty good song. Uncle.

It's clearly satire and really pretty funny. No real Mariah fan would Photoshop her picture into famous album covers of other artists.

The only thing that bugs me is the Paypal donation part of it.

For the love of Rand, Brother Ryan, stay away from Indiana.

That is all.

Gosh, I wish that Mariah site was satire, but I'm afraid it isn't. Her fans are rabid, psychotic, and truly believe Mariah should have been the fifth Beatle.

She'll outsell the Beatle easy.
She already got more weeks at #1 than thhey do.
She's 3 #1 single away from them too.
MC got the most loyal fans next to M. Jackson

I find it bizarre that if you hate someone so much that you can take the time to listen 'carefully' to their music and write a [cough cough] review. 'Why' certainly escapes me, Why would you spend that amount of time listening to someone you hate?

My problem with your opinion is that you use the word 'whore' so much and incorrectly. Mariah Carey is clearly not a whore.

Your review is not a review, it's not impartial, it's just an opinion. One that I, and many other fans, couldn't change so I'm not going to bother. But I want to say that if you want to be a critic, and give your opinions to people then I think should show us why we should listen before you give critical 'reviews' of artists three billion times better than you.

Wendy, are you sure that Mariah Carey is really 3 BILLION times better than me? That seems harsh. A couple of thousand times better than me, maybe, 100,000 times better than me perhaps, but 3 B-I-L-L-I-O-N? Baby, that's rough.

I just bought another copy of the album.

You a glutton for punishment, ain't ya Temple? Do you need an extra copy so you can play them separately