Blogcritics: Comments on Ohio GOP Owes Apology to Democrat Paul Hackett and the Troops

Comment by jayne

Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:38:47 EDT

History DOES repeat itself......... "A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt ... If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake." Written in a letter by Thomas Jefferson after the passage of the Sedition Act in 1798 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Quoted in 1918, by REPUBLICAN President Theodore Roosevelt...what would Teddy say now? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Naturally, the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacificists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country." Herman Goering Hitler's Reichsmarschall at the Neuremberg Trials

Comment by billy

Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:55:09 EDT

except of course equal rights, social secutriy, desegragation, america rising to a superpower, winning wwii, right to choose, going into space, voting rights act, . . . of course this is nothing if you are a conservative because these are the things you would like to get rid of.

Comment by John Bambenek

Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:48:44 EDT

Note, the Democrats ran this country for 40 years, they had their chance, and they delivered nothing.

Comment by Robert

Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:13:28 EDT

Dave, You want people to live on $7 an hour and have no affordable education and healthcare. Watch and see what happens when those people find a leader that is not adverse to violence. But hey, you'll have em in prison camps before it gets to that, right Dave? You and your kind care nothing for your fellow man, only your bank accounts. Your not going to be able to eat that money when the time comes, Dave. Oh yea I forgot, the Churches are gonna make everything better, right Dave? Please go away.

Comment by John Bambenek

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:07:21 EDT

You nailed the issue right on, I *am* scared about 06. I know full well when the Dems lose more seats in the Senate and lose again in the House, we're all screwed. Why? It's not policy, it's corruption. I'm honest, I know that the GOP are politicians first, and a distant second men of priniciple. They'll be looting the treasury just like the Dems do in Illinois. Conservativism? Hah. The GOP is just as corrupt and the DNC, except occasionally they throw us a bone. In the end, when the DNC gets wiped out, the GOP will become just as useless. So yeah, I'm afraid.

Comment by Scott

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:46:20 EDT

"On his website, on his flyers, and in his commercials, no where can it be seen where he really stands on issues or that he's even a Democrat." Not to rain on your parade here Johnny, but most commercials, websites and flyers of any candidate don't usually list their party. Go to most any website of a member of the Senate or the House. You usually won't find party affiliation on the front page. And in most political commercials, they don't mention their party affiliation until the end of the ad where they're legally required to. Look, I know you're scared about 2006 and that's why you feel compelled to make things up, but you can always come over to the good side of the force. It's never too late. Look at Darth Vader, he switched right before he died.

Comment by Eric Berlin

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:22:33 EDT

If you take your last two comments, you're saying that Democrats both want to nationalize health care and do nothing for the uninsured. ?

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:11:36 EDT

That sounds like BOTH parties, Eric. Dave

Comment by Eric Berlin

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:09:06 EDT

If it's tax breaks for pharm companies and do nothing for the millions of un and under-insured, then it sounds like ANOTHER party...

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 19:00:44 EDT

So long as it's pro healthcare reform and pro education reform, it doesn't sound like a democrat at all. If it's pro national health and pro more money for failing education institutions. THEN it sounds like a democrat. Dave

Comment by Eric Berlin

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:59:16 EDT

He ran as an anti-war, anti-Bush, pro-health care and education reform Democrat. He's also pro-gun ownership. That sounds like a decent platform to me.

Comment by John Bambenek

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:55:55 EDT

On his website, on his flyers, and in his commercials, no where can it be seen where he really stands on issues or that he's even a Democrat. He ran as a Marine, that got votes. It was a good strategy. It didn't work.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:13:22 EDT

Hackett didn't come out as a big spender or a tax raiser as far as I can tell. So that sets him apart from a lot of other Dems, as well as the gun position. Dave

Comment by billy

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:04:35 EDT

maybe thats why he did good, but it isnt Jon B's type of republican so I dont know why he is claiming that. anyways, your kind of republican dave, is apparently . . . a democrat. i can only think of 1 position that hackett had that could even be remotely called republican, which was 2nd amendment, but in that respect hackett was a howard dean clone.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:00:53 EDT

It does sound like my kind of Republican, Billy. Dave

Comment by billy

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:59:59 EDT

"pretend to be Republicans" keep dreaming that is the reason republicans have become weak in red districts. he called bush an sob, opposed iraq, pro-choice, pro stem-cell. if you call that acting like a republican, you are in for a surprise next year.

Comment by rush limbaugh

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:48:32 EDT

Bend way over for your apology.

Comment by John Bambenek

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:30:37 EDT

As I said in another thread, this race showed that in order to compete, the Democrats have to pretend to be Republicans... if that's your definition of boding well... that's your perogative.

Comment by Scott

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:52:38 EDT

Well, whether conservatives like it or not, I think this bodes well for Democrats in the 2006 elections.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:18:07 EDT

I agree with you on the change and reform, Eric. It's time for us to put aside the failed politics of callousness and greed and move in a new direction. If they get their act together the GOP might be able to offer that new hope. The Democrats never will. If necessary we can look elsewhere alltogether. BTW, I wouldn't vote for Bill Frist if he were the last candidate on earth. Dave

Comment by Eric Berlin

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:03:58 EDT

I'm encourated for '06 (even if that makes me "pathetic"). I think people are finally (!) ready for some real change and reform.

Comment by billy

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:01:11 EDT

this republican denial that their party is hollowed out, even in the reddest district like 0h-2, will only help democrats. please keep believing everything is ok going into 2006 and that howard dean is a disaster.

Comment by Scott

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:00:47 EDT

Nalle's voting for Bill Frist in '08.

Comment by Mark Saleski

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:50:00 EDT

marginalized? you all act as though the results of the last election were 95-5, when it was actually not far from 50-50.

Comment by Dave Nalle

Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:38:59 EDT

>>You can't have it both ways with Hackett. Either he's "charming" or he's "offensive" for calling Bush an SOB, etc.<< I never tried to have it both ways. Fine with me if he calls Bush an SOB. It's even part of his charm. >>Onward: Hackett is offering a new model for Democrats to run on as he's exposed vulnerability on the administration's anti-war policies. This should be a no brainer, in my opinion, but there it is. << This shouldn't have been a revelation to anyone. Plenty of Democrats are going to run against the war and lose because their GOP opponents will keep the race focused on their record rather than the president's. >>Finally, Dave, your point about taxes, spending, and freedom (and moveon.org) is tired, misleading, and out-of-date.<< Hardly out of date. Democrat positions have become even more socialistic and unacceptable as they've become more marginalized as a party. Dave