I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, Marty.

Eric is right. The post is vague but the links and your blog are impressive. Just think, only 50 odd years ago they were calmly killing, stealing, torturing, and trying to annex the world with an organized and inhuman ability to separate themselves from their heinous actions. "It wasn't us who murdered 10's of millions of Jews, Gypsies, Russians, English, Dutch, Communists, political opponents...It was 'them'."
You remind me to rethink my statements when I class George Bush or Pat Robertson as 'Fascists'. The real thing still lurks in the dark side of European thought. Or so your blog and the links from it make it appear. It makes for a good read.

Hmmm. I went to the 'they hate us' link and I didn't see any evidence that they hate us. Did I miss something?

They stereotyped, but we do that to. America has stereotyped blondes as ditzy but that doesn't mean we hate blondes. The guys on Queer Eye are stereotypes but the show isn't anti-gay.

I do think putting the two types side by side and putting the quotes they did, side by side, does show a bias. But we do that here too.

How does Hitler fit into that Stern article again?

Steve I would recommend that you read some of the other entries on David's site to see the level of anti-Americanism that exists in Germany.

I would agree that the title of this post is a bit weak; I am sometime pretty horrid at coming up with a good headline.

Well, I have lived in Germany, and I would say the Germans don't hate us, but if you watch their media, you'd think that they do, you'd also think that the Germans are so preoccupied with the US that they think of nothing else.

I don't see hate in the Stern article, but I do see dehumanization and the promotion of xenophobia and ignorance. (This is certainly not unique to the German press.)

As an American, I find it curious that while many Europeans correctly make fun of the insularity and provincialism of many Americans, they themselves seem equally ignorant of life in the US. Many have never been here, of course, or if they have, have spent a few days in Disney World, New York, and L.A. And God help 'em if they base their opinions on Hollywood's products. We need more year-long student exchange programs. The Erasmus program has served Europe well.

SFC Ski has a great point!

While living in Europe for three years, our family had several vacations in Germany and always found the German people very friendly and on the whole a pro-american and gregarious people.

France, on the other hand, was just the opposite, at least in Paris and the major population centers. The urban French seemed to have an in-bred hatred for Americans and were outright rude and nasty to us.

As SFC Ski says, it seems the German media is anti-american, not the people!

To get an idea of some of the loopy things which Europeans - particularly Germans - actually believe about the US, you might check out my earlier article on the subject.

Dave

Mike:"As an American, I find it curious that while many Europeans correctly make fun of the insularity and provincialism of many Americans, they themselves seem equally ignorant of life in the US."

I will make a broad statement in that Europeans are so saturated by American pop culture especially TV and movies, that there is a misperception they have of Americans. Anyone, anywhere can be guilty of attributing truth to what they see in the media as objectively true.

Try it yourself. What's the first thing that comes to your mind with each word?:
Arab
German
Frenchman
African
Refugee
Hunter
Athlete
Soldier
Jew

Each person who reads this has a first response, which may or may not then be modified but what other really know.

Point is, the German media in this case feeds the stereotypes TV presents, and those that know better shine it on or refute it, and those that choose not to learn more say, "See, just as I thought!"

I go the Germany a lot on business, these books are way out in left field, but the sentiments expressed are gaining momentum. Go to France, where the Nationalist movement is really underway. Why? Because all the immigration has started to errode ttheir womb to tomb socialism. I'd be mad too if....
Guaranteed college no longer existed
Guaranteed Health care no longer existed
Guaranteed Vacations no longer existed

and all because of the immigration drain on the budget. You see hints of it in the U.S. press, but not much.

There is raising dissent. (is that an oxymoron?)

The problem with German Nationalism and Nativism is that because of their heritage the nationalists are viewed by most as marginal nutcases, neo-nazis who have no legitimate place in the political process.

In France, because they don't have that same history, you can get away with being extreme and against immigration and you can still be taken somewhat seriously. Or very seriously given the obvious problems immigration is causing.

As for the obliviousness of most Americans and
US media, the two times I've posted on topics related to this I've encountered quite a bit of ignorane and denial, especially from liberals who are convinced that everything is just fine in Europe and that we should be immitating them at ever turn.

Dave

Germans don't hate americans. You shouldn't generalize. There are good and bad people all over the world. And we all have our history to carry. Love and peace
christine from Germany

I don`t know why the other people think so bad about us (Germans)!? I was born in a foreign country, and my parents brought me to germany when i was 3 years old... i had never received an racism-comment, or anythink else. Of course there is one or other fool who`s not understanding the real time, but show me one country where it isn`T!!!! Everywhere there are idiots!
I made my military here, i vote here and i have one thing to say: The germans are a very frfiendly and human nation! The evidence is the subscriptions the german are doing every time. Peace, love and have a good time!!!! Radu!

i don´t think that anybody wants to excuses himselves for blame sb. for debts.Our Grandparents did, our parents did, we are doing it....but it is enough for yet! We have one proud: Black Red Gold!!! F*** Racism and F+++ who are telling it about us! Germnay 4 EVER!!!
We´ll kick the english out in the penalties!!! Go DEUTSCHLAND!!

Could somebody please explain to me the point of this post?-- because I have no idea...

@ Ray:
Mareike is talking about the Soccer World Championship that is taking place in Germany right now...
Black, red and gold are the colours of our flag.
We don´t hate Americans.

@ Mareike:
Berlin! Berlin! Wir fahren nach Berlin!

this is bull bush is a moron fagit he thinks the war we are in now is defferent but we are exxcluding people becouse they want to make wepons of mass destructiuon plus central intellegence cant seem to find the differtence of iraq and iran iran is makeing atom boms not iranq dumbasses