"Light, or Salvation"...The Redlake School Massacre

Written by Steve Huff
Published March 22, 2005

Links added 3/23/05:

  • The Smoking Gun found Jeff Weise's flash animation "smoking gun."
  • Here's a direct link to the flash animation Jeff posted - a movie by 'Regret', Jeff Weise.
  • A post by Jeff at nazi.org.
  • Further interesting posts by Jeff Weise at a paranormal/conspiracy-oriented forum, abovetopsecret.com. [Link 1, Link 2, Link 3]. Thanks to the person who e-mailed the "tip"...here's a quote from the post found at "Link 2" - a post Jeff Weise made in December of 2003:
    "...Lately I've been having some really strange dream's, they seem very realistic and filled with colour and sound's, they really are more realistic than dream's from like last month, but a few night's ago I had this dream where I saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's me, and I heard someone say "Shoot!," either way everything went black and I could feel my whole body jerking and shaking, and while this was happening I could hear very loud and very distinct gunshot's, mostly machine gun fire... I found it very weird and woke up immediately after feeling a little disoriented..." ~ emphasis mine - S.H.
  • Another quote from that forum, posted on this page:
    "...What the heck is a sin? I mean, as far as I'm concerned the very idea of such a thing is ludicrus. The idea of what constitutes a sin varys widely across the different cultures and lands, so how can you be sure which religion or faith is the one? (...)I'm an atheist. I'm not some immoral arsehole who thinks he can get away with anything because there is no God, I just see no reason to put faith in something that, for all I know, isn't there. Whoever said "we're all sinners" was right, because if you think about it, in this world you can't take a dump without it being labled a sin..."
    The post number is 1101553, post id 1123446. I left all spelling and punctuation errors intact. I've also put up a screenshot of the message at the bottom of the extended entry.
  • Found via DrudgeReport.com - Weise was taking Prozac.


In addition to postings on websites associated with certain "hate groups" (link takes you to a Newswire story about Weise and those websites), Jeff Weise, the 17-year-old school shooter from Redlake, Minnesota, had a Livejournal.Thoughts of a Dreamer. [Google news search for Jeff Weise]. It appears that yesterday, March 21, 2005, Jeff killed his grandparents, then took his grandfather's police cruiser and police-issued weapons to his school, where he killed 7 others - 5 students, 2 staff members, and ultimately, himself.

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Steve Huff is the creator, head writer, and editor of the popular true crime weblog, CrimeBlog.US. His investigative reporting led to Mr. Huff writing for Court TV's CrimeLibrary.com. Steve has been a guest on numerous cable news programs, among them "Rita Cosby Live & Direct" on MSNBC and "Catherine Crier Live" on Court TV. In December of 2005 Steve was interviewed by Dateline NBC about his in-depth investigations into the online rantings of former playwright and accused rapist Peter Braunstein. About Steve's Crime Blog, best-selling crime writer Ann Rule has said, "He has real talent as a writer, and his blog is great!" A Nashville, TN native, Steve Huff is also a classically-trained operatic tenor, and has performed professionally with the Atlanta Opera Company and the Knoxville (TN) Opera Co. Steve also blogs at www.unsolvedblog.com, a weblog devoted to unsolved mysteries of all kinds. He lives in an old house in the Atlanta area with his wife Dana, three kids, and a civil war-era ghost or two.
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#1 — March 23, 2005 @ 08:38AM — diane barnes

Just wondering, was Jeff Weise on any kind of anti-depressant drugs like all of the other school shooters?

#2 — March 23, 2005 @ 09:05AM — Eric Olsen

very intersting find Steve, thanks - the suicide rate is higher the farther north you go, Scandanavia, etc. I think it's the lack of light as well as the cold and isolation

#3 — March 23, 2005 @ 15:56PM — Steve [URL]

Diane;

I don't know if he was on ad's or not, and personally am wary of bringing the subject up. To be frank, my life has been saved by antidepressants. I must allow for the fact that the biochemistry of a teen's brain is substantially different in many ways from a 20-something, and I didn't take the first antidepressant until I was 25...so I'm saying that for all I know the contribution of depression medication to psychopathic or just plain psychotic behavior in teens (and yes, they are very different, psychosis and psychopathy) could be real. For me, though, personally, antidepressants have just been a blessing.

I will say this; a marked feature of many people suffering from either borderline personality disorder and some who have antisocial personality disorder - formerly known as psychopathy or sociopathy - has been noted to be depression. Nearly every serial killer ever interviewed has reported depression. So, perhaps blaming antidepressants is actually missing the point. A bigger problem may be the fear psychiatrists have of diagnosing younger folk with critical personality disorders. The book on apd (antisocial personality disorder) is that it's incurable, and docs in a position to choose won't even see a patient whom they think has it. Many psychs avoid borderlines for the same reason. Borderlines are said to have true feelings, emotions, but in a very primitive, infantile way. The problem with some of these killer kids could be a doctor who just can't bring themselves to realize they've got a juvenile psycho on their hands, and act accordingly.

#4 — March 24, 2005 @ 15:53PM — Steve [URL]

Well, it appears Jeffro was on Prozac. I reiterate - I believe antidepressants are, for the most part, a boon to society, and not one of it's ills.

However...the profession of psychology/psychiatry may need to be re-evaluated as it relates to methods of diagnosis. I contend the ad's didn't make these kids killers - environment and heredity combined did. Still...analysis of the differences in the way antidepressants interact with teen brain chemistry and adult is probably warranted.

#5 — April 24, 2005 @ 19:40PM — Katia

I do not agree with Eric Olsen comment that was posted on March 23, 2005 09:05 AM:

He wrote that :the suicide rate is higher the farther north you go. Canada is even more up North than that and the suicide ratio is very low. There are other facts that come into play, like poverty for example

#6 — May 24, 2005 @ 12:39PM — monay [URL]

hey yall whats up? well see iam jeff weises old girlfriend from grade school
i still hung out with him till this very day. since the shootings happened it was hard to believe that my ex would do something like this i remeber when he was in 5th grade, people would always tease him basically i was the only one really there for him but he never mentioned me to anyone see is that i was the only one there for him.
jeff was the most sweetest nicest guy all around fun kid who was always respectful to adults and never anything bad to say about any one he was the nicest kids you'd ever want to be or hang with. ya know? i know why he did what he did... it was wrong but like they say, you got to do what you got to do... and he did it because ignorant people out there that he was trying to get help from ignored him like he was a nobody trust me he was a somebody...a somebody who was hurting inside and noone cared... i miss him :(

#7 — May 24, 2005 @ 12:44PM — monay [URL]

jeff weise was the coolest guy to be around. even though i went with him in grade school till this day he was like a brother to me i had no brother or sister that lived with me... so jeff was the one who i could look up to.
he was always like this until one day and a couple of years later things would change soon than you think. like jeff weise said...things will never change.

#8 — June 13, 2006 @ 13:52PM — Merideth Carleton

Have you seen this before? It's a number guessing game: http://www.amblesideprimary.com/ambleweb/mentalmaths/guessthenumber.html. I guessed 40606, and it got it right! Pretty neat.

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