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<title>Comment by christy carol on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Why are there so many racist in the first place? Does it really matter what color you are?God created us all and we should all love and care for one another.Regardless of what anyone say&#039;s we are all brothers and sisters out here in this world.We all bleed the same.We have trouble else where in this world why create one here in America?Why can&#039;t we look at the big problem&#039;s out here like the starving people in really poor country&#039;s?And put this crap to rest. Do something  about that!Put time and effort you put in the racist crap into helping the one&#039;s that really need our help.
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<title>Comment by dano on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>You left out #44. 
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<title>Comment by  HW Saxton on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/18/100721.php#comment-121028</link>
<description>To think that &quot;Modern Man&quot; as we know 
him descended from the noble Simian is kind of an insult to monkeys IMHO.

This is verified by posts #31, 33, 37 &amp;
39.
 

 

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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>well put Dave: separate but equal, except for the equal part
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<title>Comment by Dave Nalle on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>If you talk about them, the Nazis will come.  But they&#039;re kindler gentler nazis.  They just want us to get in touch with our racial feelings.  All races are equal, but the white race just happens to be more equal than others.

Dave
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>&quot;Nazis&quot; or not, the National Alliance is obviously a group of stone cold racists
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<title>Comment by Aaman on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Then stop calling it National assoc. and watch the advertising dollars dry up
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<title>Comment by Dano on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>So White people have most sports to themselves? Football? Baseball? Basketball? Where is it written that all sports have to have equal amounts of every ethnicity available? NASCAR is PUSHING to get minorities into the sport through projects like Drive for Diversity. Whites need not apply. And Wall Street is very interested in the minority markets they are not getting any money from because NASCAR is only appealing to mostly Whites.  I remember reading an article where minorities were polled as to why they don&#039;t watch NASCAR and do you know what the most responded to answer was? Because there isn&#039;t anyone in the cars that looks like them!    So, what&#039;s wrong with keeping a White sport White because they want to see people in the cars that look like them? The National Alliance isn&#039;t a bunch of Nazis. They just want White people to wake up and support their own race. When blacks talk of &#039;their people&#039; do you call them a bunch of racist Black Panthers? Probably not, but the minute Whites start talking about &#039;their people&#039; they are automatically labeled as a bunch of racist nazis. Sheesh!
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>obviously this story has been picked up by some kind of white supremecist site/group. I like the gentle, friendly, &quot;our own people&quot; and &quot;what&#039;s the big deal? All races should be proud&quot; horse shit. Fuckers
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<title>Comment by ScottyPaine on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Whats the big deal? The people with the fliers were cool. Me and my friends liked the flyers and being around our own people for a change. Everyone needs to feel like they are where they belong. Isn&#039;t that what diversity should be? actually Being diverse for a change?
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>&quot;love is monkey see and monkey do, that&#039;s all it is, peaches&quot;
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>I dig getting one with my simian roots too, Aaman!
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<title>Comment by Aaman on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>I love all races, and which race can call itself separate from others? We&#039;re all monkeys - I, for one, love &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lunchbreaktoons.com/caption38.htm&quot;&gt;doing the monkey&lt;/a&gt;
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<title>Comment by TheTruth on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Since when is the National Alliance a white supremicist group? They hand out flyers that say &quot;love your race&quot; and encourage everyone to be proud of their heritage, not just whites.
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>&quot;white people should have a sport of their own&quot;? What the hell does this mean? Besides being completely racist in concept, the reality is that white people have MOST sports &quot;to themselves&quot; if you look at international sport: combine both summer and winter Olympics and I would guess the majority of the sports have 90% or higher white competitors. What an incredible pile of shit.
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<title>Comment by Chaim Weitzman on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>I think it&#039;s healthy for Whites to have sports they can refer to as their own. As a Jew...I feel comfortable knowing that there&#039;s always a place for Jews to be with our own kind, that being the state of Israel. In all fairness, I will defend the right of the National Alliance to distribute literature freely. We must remember...those who want the National Alliance to not be allowed to be heard, could come after another unpopular group next! Oh, and I feel the need to mention. As a Jew...it bothers me what is taking place over in Iraq right now. It will eventually come back and haunt my people, the Jewish people.

http://nowarforisrael.com/
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<title>Comment by sydney on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Dave,

I wasn&#039;t arguing that NASCAR was racist.  I just said as a blanket statement, all organizations have to pull their weight and work to make themselves inclusive, even if there is little interst from minorities at that point in time.  

I&#039;m not sayin jesse jackson is correct.. just commenting on the remarks in the post by some bloggers who said &quot;Why can&#039;t whites have their own organizations etc?&quot;  (Somthing along those lines).

&quot;BTW, Sydney, the only places you tend to find white rednecks who are racist are in places where there are no or very few blacks in the same communities. Where are you from, Idaho?&quot;

I&#039;m from everywhere just about, and never have I stumbled accros a redneck culture that meets the description that you&#039;ve been giving. However I don&#039;t doubt that they may exist in some areas. I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s not the norm.  Moreover, two very different cultural groups can coexist in a shared space in relative harmony (not killing one another), while still being racist towards one another.  Or while still working within systmeically racist structures.  

And, I don&#039;t know what texas you come from but the one I know has loads of racism and prejudice.  Christ my roomate is black and he just moved from Austin because of the racial tension, after 11 years of living there.  

last word for me: I think NASCAR would do well to create a more inclusive image, though i don&#039;t think they were being racist.

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<title>Comment by Dave Nalle on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>I don&#039;t see why NASCAR needs to change their image.  The image they have is not one they went looking for and it&#039;s not one anyone questioned until Jesse Jackson tried to extort them.  There&#039;s no conspiracy here to keep blacks out of NASCAR, they just happen not to be interested on the same scale as whites.  When do we start hounding the NHL for the same reason?  Seen a lot of black hockey players or fans?  Perhaps Canada should be sued because its national sport is clearly racist.

Now there may be commercial reasons for NASCAR to do something.  There&#039;s money to be made off of black sports fans, and I&#039;m sure they&#039;d like to have that money.  I&#039;d bet that NASCAR management would kill or die to get a few good black drivers.  It would be good for business.  But that&#039;s the only sensible reason for them to pursue this issue.

BTW, Sydney, the only places you tend to find white rednecks who are racist are in places where there are no or very few blacks in the same communities.  Where are you from, Idaho?

Dave
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<title>Comment by sydney on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Sorry correction to last post:
&quot;...their identity and membership based on race, but instead, based on &quot;interest&quot; .&quot;

Should be: &quot; that they DON&#039;T gain...their identity and membership based on race, but instead, based on &quot;interest&quot; .



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<title>Comment by Sydney on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Dave,

As with many of your posts I find you look to disprove certain &#039;facts&#039; here and there but I find you often miss the big picture.  The reality is that there will always be &#039;facts&#039; that are arguable. Even &#039;facts&#039; are subjective, though it may sound like an oxymoron (political discourse is lasting proof of this &#039;fact&#039;).

In any case, so here you argue that the rednecks of Texas are not racists or at the very least that they don&#039;t intimidate the black community when they gather at large events such as NASCAR.  We&#039;ll that&#039;s your opinion, but where I&#039;m from we have what we call Rednecks, who all thought they are nice people, are not very tolerant or understanding of minorities.  I converse with them everyday and it doesn&#039;t take long to here the prejudices.  

Regardless of this, I think that Nascar is associated with redneck culture. This is my perception of the sport.   I don&#039;t think Blacks would feel overly welcome at an event where large numbers of white rural, blue collar, men gather.  Even if it is all simply a misguided perception, it is one that most of us have, white supremacists and blacks alike.  It&#039;s our duty to reform institutions so that they  gain their identity and membership  based on race, but instead, based on &quot;interest&quot; .

NASCAR, may be doing much to change it&#039;s image, but I think it has a ways to go.   
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>failure to grasp the difference between discrimination and affirmative action does not a convincing argument make
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<description>I thought Jesse was just looking for a payoff to leave NASCAR alone - isn&#039;t that his usual strategy?

Dave
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<title>Comment by John on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>This is all quite simple, white people aren&#039;t allowed to do anything or have anything of their own these days. It&#039;s rule one on the doctrine of &#039;Political Correctness&#039;, didn&#039;t you hear? However, do not fear, Jesse Jackson has the grand plan to fix those evil, white NASCAR Nazis. Yes, indeed, they are ALL Nazis. Affirmative Action at the racetrack will cure the ills of those speeding racists and their genocide-bent collaborators. From now on, all Black drivers will get a five lap headstart and any undocumented workers that finish the race get the &#039;Busch Amnesty Plan&#039;. That&#039;ll level the playing field and marginalize everyone nicely. Godspeed, Reverend Jackson!
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<description>I wasn&#039;t aware of the Goad book.  Will check it out.  

I&#039;m aware of &#039;redneck&#039; culture here in Texas because I moved out of Austin and into the exurbs nearby and decided to get involved in the culture to at least some extent.  I may not exactly fit in, but no one seems to mind, and you can learn a lot at county fairs and BBQ cookoffs, plus I have relatives who&#039;ve been living out here a long time and laid the groundwork.

Dave
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<title>Comment by  HW Saxton on Racists to recruit at Daytona 500</title>
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<description>Dave N., you hit it right on the head in
regards to &quot;Redneck Culture&quot; and all the
mixing of race largely due to economic 
circumstance. You made several real good
points that I hope hit home with many of
the BC readers. I wanted to go into it 
more at depth in my earlier post but it
didn&#039;t seem worth the time and bother.
I&#039;m glad you did though. Very articulate
post. Have you ever had a chance to read
&quot;The Redneck Manifesto&quot; by Jim Goad ???

He covers many of the same ideas that 
you do but at greater length,of course
since it&#039;s a book. Just curious. 

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