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<title>Comment by Ryan</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-359893</link>
<description>wow, i guess no one really uses this anymore, I have been listin to NIN since i was 11 years old and im now 17 living in ON Canada. I have 17 out of the 21 halos and have resently purchased the LP &quot; Every day is excatly the same&quot;  only because it was like 8 bucks (Can. haha) and it was lacking material, only one EDIETS remix. 
 In regards to Nine inch nails and where it is today i believe that the amount of people (fans) that listen to NIN has stayed realitivly the same. Even after going gold (in the US) &quot;With Teeth&quot; has  obviously not made that big of an impact as The Downward Spriral and i think no other future NIN albums will. If you look back at 1994 when TDS was release it had little compition, Kurt Kobain killed himself a month after the albums release and it caught on. Today is a clearly very much different, with the US &#039;acting as world police&quot; and  with every changing media ambitions it hard for an album to make a large impact on society. Trent also deals with people downloading music for free and using their stupid ipods and not actulay walking to a record store and buying an album as some are ment to be bought as a &#039;whole&#039; and not chopped up and mixed around on mp3 players. Not to mention the every growing list of artists and band and the arrival of a shit load of crapy Rap and R&amp;B artists who appeal to large audiene of dumb 13 year white kids who have little idea of what music is out there unless the T.V lets them know what &quot;hot and new&quot; or what their group of friends let them know. 
 So my point being is that Nine Inch Nails at least from wear i come from (Toronto) has little influence in the dime-minded people that fill my school and community.

 (Is their another NIN &#039;album in the making since i read that Reznor stated he had lots of material that didn&#039;t make it on &quot;with teeth&quot;
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<title>Comment by glass</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-264879</link>
<description>NIN rocks. &#039;nuf said.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:09:59 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zaldor</title>
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<description>Here Here Bri!   I think this album sure put all the naysayers to rest.    

I also should point out that when I saw NIN in Detroit a few weeks ago, there was a woman almost 10 yrs older than me (I&#039;m 35) right up there on the floor as close as she could get!!  She made it through about 3/4 of the NIN set, before I helped her crowd surf out ;)

Incredible show, and even better when you&#039;re *that* close!</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:52:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bri</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-260433</link>
<description>I just wanted to say to Adrian M. who posted back in Feb... you weren&#039;t too far off with your prediction on where &quot;With Teeth&quot; would debut. You said #3...it actually made #1 on the charts. And rightfully so. 

Fuck all you naysayers.

NIN&#039;s music is here to stay and it is most definitely music that will stand the test of time.</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:31:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Blaze350</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-148198</link>
<description>NIN killed at Coachella. It was super intense and super tight. Mellow electronic beats played between brutal songs. I was hoping theyed play a spacial ambiant but they didnt (at least while i was there). Twiggy and Trent have great stage presence. This is one of the best concerts of my life.

I heard the album and its good. I appreciate it on a different level than the other albums. Its raw and accessable. I do miss the spacial rollercoasters of the past. Perfect Drug type stuff.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 4 May 2005 12:50:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Zora</title>
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<description>Greetings to all!

Well, I&#039;ve heard the album! It&#039;s really excellent!!! Trent Reznor&#039;s not lost his touch in five years! Ah yes, his birthday&#039;s coming up soon, may 17.

While it&#039;s not a continuation of the story as i&#039;d hoped, it is, in effect, a summation of the characters current thoughts and feelings, the way things are for him __now.

When I first heard the leaked copy of The Line Begins to Blur, I thought o shit, this is terrible! but, it&#039;s really not, it goes very well with the sort of music this album has, which is really not like anything he&#039;s ever done before. While stylisticly it reminds me of Pretty Hate Machine, that being that it&#039;s more musicly oriented than the Fragile or even DTS, it&#039;s actual genre of music is very unique.

All that being said, I love it!

Is it wrong of me, though, to not be completely satisfied, and to be reassuring myself that there will be progress, that the story will continue where it left off at the fragile? Hmmm.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:09:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Blaze 350</title>
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<description>I can hardly contain myself 2 weeks till seeing NIN at Coachella and the new album!

Allot of good points brought up on this thread. Sorry to get geeked out :)</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:27:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Leslie</title>
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<description>One more real quick comment. I am taking a History of Rock-and -Roll class at college this semester, I wrote a fifteen page term paper about Industrial rock, focusing on late 80&#039;s  and early to mid 90&#039;s. There is no denying Trent&#039;s talent. Lete not forget that he made Manson the icon (couldn&#039;t think of a better word) that he is today. Trent is a genius, pure genius!</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:56:01 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Leslie</title>
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<description>Just wanted to say that I can not wait for this album to come out. Fragile really dissapointed me, but it must be hard to follow up albums like Pretty Hate Machine an Downward Spiral. I think it is going to do great. I have been hearing about this album since early last year, the word is deffinalty out there, the younger gen. is going to eat it up (I&#039;m a 20 year old female, and I LOVE NIN, I have every album, and every song memorized). Hopefully rock will see it&#039;s rebirth very soon, I am so burnt out on r&amp;b.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:49:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andreas Asplund</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-128771</link>
<description>Would just like to say to Thomas Nord&amp;#233;n that NiN will perform on the Hultsfred Festival this year, and that&#039;ll be their first concert ever in sweden.

So, be there.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:29:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by DLove</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-128766</link>
<description>The formula that made Downward Spiral such a success is the same one that is likely to be employed this time around, which will ensure that this album is hugely successful. 

We know that all of the music Trent has ever written is incredible, albeit some has stood the test of time better than other.

The tour is sold out to get a buzz going -- Remember this is the first leg and its all small venues. 

That will create a pent up demand for when NIN plays large venues, which will ensure that those sell out, as well. 

Its marketing genius and will have nothing to do with the relevance or non-relevance, the age of the fans, NOTHING. 

As for the music, I think it will stand on its own. I&#039;m not in any way suggesting that NIN is not fantastic, because they are. I&#039;m simply stating that many of you are missing the obvious here. 


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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:26:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Thomas &quot;Sweden&quot; Nord&amp;#233;n</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-128713</link>
<description>I just can&#039;t wait for the new album... But I couldn&#039;t care less if everyone else likes NIN as long as Trent keeps on making those tunes.

As a matter of fact, I think I enjoy &quot;my music&quot; more if it isn&#039;t liked by the masses. I know, it is a silly thing since the music sounds the same on my stereo regardless if the CD has sold 10 copies or 1 000 000. But it gives me a certain satisfaction that I am belonging to a limited group of people who have &quot;discovered&quot; their own little treasure. Although in the case of NIN we&#039;re not talking about sparkling gems...

I sure hope that NIN show up in Sweden...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:39:03 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Darrell</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-127931</link>
<description>Who CARES if NIN is relevant to younger people or not?  Everything Reznor does is, in my opinion, better than the last project.  The Fragile blows my mind every time I listen to it, even these years later.  Even the remix projects are usually good; Things Falling Apart was, in my opinion, the only thing he&#039;s released that falls short.  I can not WAIT to get my hands on With Teeth.  And if it doesn&#039;t sell as well as the other albums, who cares?  If Reznor no longer fits somebody&#039;s idea of &quot;underground,&quot; who cares?  WHO CARES?  New NIN in 2005.  What else needs to be said?</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:21:00 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sleazy</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-127086</link>
<description>I am not saying it is the end of famous bands. I am just pointing out that what was special about NIN and bands like them is that they were underground. They were part of undergound scenes that the youth of the time aligned themselves with. They provide the common thread that helped to bind the whole underground culture that in the early 90s was industrial. Trent did not create that Genre but he did dominate it and proved to be the artist with the most logevity. I was pointing out that part of recapturing what they did back then would be to again be part of underground culture. I don&#039;t think they will be able to achieve that. Because for one, underground cultures are different now, people are more informed and good creative genres come and go all the time (dance punk, electroclash, emo, ect...). I don&#039;t think that NIN will be able to once again be apart of an underground scene that the youth are into because they are so big. I do think that they will be able to create another great album that might find some new younger &quot;hot topic&quot; fans but will most probably mean the most to the aging scene kids of years gone by, from a time when moshing was slaming and when goth was industrial.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:01:30 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Blaze 350</title>
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<description>I dont think its the end of famous bands as Sleazy has stated. You are comming from an underground perspective. There is a mainstream: Slipknot, Linkin Park, SOAD.

There is a lul right now because of the war, hard music has been downplayed on radio and tv but its not permenent. Because of that &#039;safe rock&#039; is the staple. AFI, Bad Charlotte, Chevelle, the killers, Lous XIV  ect...

A &#039;Nirvana&#039; or &#039;L Zeplin&#039; or Hendrix&#039; or &#039;NIN&#039; will rise (Metaphorically speaking)

The most faceless and iconless music has ever been was during the &#039;rave&#039; craze and even then we had Chemical Bros, Crystal Method, Fat Boy Slim, and Aphex Twin to represent as iconc individuals of the faceless nameless dj movement.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:09:27 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sleazy</title>
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<description>I have been into them since the late 80&#039;s. I caught their 2 dollar to get in, friends of the band only, warm up show for lollapolooza back in 91 at tipatina&#039;s in new orleans and have caught every show since except the david bowie bullshit tour. trent&#039;s show are always great, creative and different than the last one you saw. he has a better understanding of how to balance slow and fast songs to pace his shows than most. no offense to all of you but it seems like a lot of you are out of touch with what is going on now with the younger generation and music. i am heavily involved with a skateboard magazine and most of the people i skate with are 15-20 so i would consider myself a little more up to date than most poeple my age. i think the thing with the new generation is diversity. no one genre or band is really capable of dominating anymore (OK modest mouse did pretty good, but still), there is just too much stuff out there and with the internet it is all so easily assesible. it seems the thing now is just knowing more about every unheard of band and new gene on the planet than getting behind something that is big and well known. so i wouldn&#039;t expect for them to be a genre creating\revitalizing band that people are talking about in this thread, (especially considering ministry just dropped a killer CD that barely got noticed outside of the metal community). but i wouldn&#039;t at all be suprised to see trent boldly go into the rare company of bands who have been able to put out 4 good LPs.</description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:06:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by FAUX</title>
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<description>Hi, just a quick comment because I read somewhere somebody would like to hear Trent do some instrumental music. 

That is very interesting, because during 1996 I thought exactly the same thing, so I started to make industrial-like music without any singing. 

I eventually found that there was a whole genre of music that  was very similar, called IDM. This music has influenced Trent, and he has connections with IDM artists, namely Aphex Twin (who did a remix for FIXED) and Autechre (who were released in the USA through Nothing). 

You can find a whole new world of music by researching just these two artists.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:15:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by trezdustrial</title>
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<description>I have been a fan of NIN since the release of PHM. Needless to say I have come a long way since then, and STILL appreciate Trent Reznor&#039;s work.

I feel this newest album will prove to be much more accesible than The Fragile. Starting with the first single &quot;The Hand That Feeds&quot;, NIN will begin to rise again in popularity. 

This is a rockin song people,....and it&#039;s just in time for summer.

And for what it&#039;s worth I thought The Fragile had only sold like under 900,000 copies to date.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:28:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by JaSoNiN</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/15/074502.php#comment-126095</link>
<description>All this talk about Trent&#039;s music not having any relevance with younger crowds....bull. To prove that wrong, you only need look at how quickly EVERY SINGLE north american show for the upcoming tour sold out, and look at the people next to you in line. I was one of the people lucky enough to get tickets for one of the Chicago shows, and I am 22 years old. As I looked through the line of approximately 60 people waiting anxiously for their tickets, a vast majority of them were younger than myself. The kid in line behind me was 13 and knew almost as much about NIN as I do. The only way younger generations won&#039;t be into this music is if it&#039;s not available. Go to Best Buy right now and try to find one of the first four halos...thank you TVT records. This newest installment of the NIN saga is going to be filled with angsty, aggressive music written by a man who has been deceived by practically everyone that he considered to be a friend. You can bet after six years of B.S. with managers, record companies, and fellow musicians that he has A LOT to say and a STRONG WAY of saying it. I haven&#039;t been as excited for a CD since...well since i awaited the release of the fragile. Reznor&#039;s music is timeless. The man is a genius, lyrically and instrumentally. The wide range of genres he&#039;s explored amazes me more so every time I pop in an NIN cd(which is atleast once a day). The man has done everything from techno beats to pounding machines to singing along with a piano. His range of ability alone displays his unarguable talent. Well, I&#039;ve rambled long enough. Time to listen to The Line Begins to Blur for the 23482385th consecutive time. Can&#039;t wait for the tour, and thanx for listening...JaSoNiN
P.S....just posted today on NIN.com was info there will be a fall tour across north america with tickets going on sale in June. Good luck to all those who couldn&#039;t get tix this time....
I\I I I/I</description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 7 Mar 2005 20:25:42 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen</title>
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<description>thanks Jessica, your opinion is valid as far as I&#039;m concerned</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:49:03 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jessica</title>
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<description>I havent read most of the previous comments because I dont currently have enough time...I will come back and read them later.

Because I have just turned 15, I am not fully aware of what influence NIN had in he past. I am fascinated with what they have done, and cant wait for this new work.

Consider this a common responce from my general age group. NIN are still very well known and respected in today&#039;s youth/rock/industrial culture.

If my opinion isnt valid, please let me know.</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:38:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen</title>
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<description>oh, since there is so much interest here, my review of the first Lollapalooza with NIN, including an interview with Trent is &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2002/08/28/193546.php&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:06:39 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Pitchy</title>
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<description>Wow, I came here searching for info on With Teeth and found tons of great comments bringing back lots of memories.  I&#039;ve heard 3 songs off the new CD and to me it&#039;s his best work in years.  Broken remains my favorite NIN release because it was a heavy aggressive style industrial... but PHM has that special place because I listened to that CD almost every day for a year :)  

I agree, Ministry / Skinny Puppy were huge influences... only wish Trent would have done more stuff with Al.  I haven&#039;t been this anxious for an industrial CD in years.  Will it bring new life to the industrial scene?  Who knows, but who really cares???  I hated hearing a bunch of drunk frat boys singing Closer so in a way I want it to be somewhat obscure.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:21:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric Olsen</title>
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<description>all together now: &quot;That&#039;s because it has legs&quot;</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:44:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Vern Halen</title>
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<description>&quot;Just out of curiosity, and I&#039;m not trying to make a point here, but which is better:
1.Having an insanely successful hit record that sells a crap ton of copies right off;
or,
2.Having an album that goes platinum once or twice, but consistently sells over the next decade?&quot;

As an aside, I heard on the radio this AM that ZZ Top&#039;s Eliminator, which I think came out in &#039;83, goes platinum every three years. Must be nice.</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:40:22 EST</pubDate>
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