Blogcritics: Comments on Philly Deserves to Be Super

Comment by Mike Kole

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:56:25 EST

bhw- I stopped being a Browns fan when Art Modell moved the team. My disgust was not pointed at Modell. It was his team, and his right to move it. I was disgusted with the way Cleveland fans talked about Modell and the moving of his property. So, I rather delighted when first the Modell-owned Ravens won a Super Bowl, as I knew that those same people who hung Modell in effigy were dying a thousand deaths. Belicheck was rather an enigma when he was in Cleveland. He had no discernable ability to talk to anyone, from media to the players. When he benched Bernie Kosar, the City was ready to form a lynch mob. Interestingly, Kosar was also a cement-footed QB, but he had the idea in his head that he was a decent leader, and Belicheck was trying so hard to imprint on the team the selfless cog in the machine mentality that there was endless friction. Most fans in Cleveland agreed that Belicheck was a defensive genius, but believed he should stay away from the offense. He's clearly learned a lot since those days in Cle. But, since I was not bitter about Belicheck, I celebrated his first two Super Bowls, again envision idiot Browns fans dying several thousand deaths. It warmed my heart like a nice mug of hot cocoa on a wintery day. This time, the thrill was gone. The Pats won another won? Ho hum.

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:38:37 EST

We might be on our way, baby!

Comment by Eric Olsen

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:35:23 EST

I think of you all as almost Canadian

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:31:52 EST

People in the Boston suburbs out to the Worcester area seem to think people "westa Woosta" are really part of New York state. I don't know what they themselves think, though. And based on my drives from MA to NJ several times a year, it looks for sure like the Patriots are taking over more and more of CT, particularly down to Hartford and possibly farther south. Fair weather fans!

Comment by Dave

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:06:01 EST

New England=Boston

Western MA and most of CT have traditionally been Giants Country. I wonder how true that is anymore.

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:41:08 EST

Even the Babe's own great-granddaughter, who was raised in NH, is a Sox fan.

Comment by Mark Saleski

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:29:00 EST

yep, it's the same with baseball. all of new england goes for the sox with the possible exception of fans in connecticut south of hartford (i know this because i was born there and was a yankee fan when i was a little kid).

Comment by Eric Olsen

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:23:28 EST

New England=Boston, that's what a lot of people don't realize when they compare market size

Comment by Mark Saleski

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:02:59 EST

i'm not exactly sure how many miles as the crow flies...but as far as sports are concerned, new hampshire = boston.

Comment by Eric Olsen

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:59:59 EST

are you within 100 miles of Beantown, Mark? thought you might be out of that range. But anyway, you have had more than your share over the last four years

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:55:08 EST

I forgot to mention that he also called it the "first-ever Six Minute Drill"

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:54:31 EST

what was up with all the farting around when they should have had the plays already called? They wasted probably a minute total out of the last 4 - that's crazy. Bill Simmons at ESPN.com said: "I've seen 80 year-old men use a urinal with more urgency"

Comment by Mark Saleski

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:51:31 EST

screw you olsen!!! ;-)

Comment by Eric Olsen

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:09:04 EST

what was up with all the farting around when they should have had the plays already called? They wasted probably a minute total out of the last 4 - that's crazy. Great game, though, it sure held my attention and I had no rooting interest in either team, other than I am really fucking sick of New England and I don't really want to hear a peep from anyone who lives within 100 miles of Boston for the next 20 years or so.

Comment by Matt Egan

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:19:20 EST

SKI--You're right. Nothing to be ashamed of. Although there's plenty to talk about in Philly today. We lost by only 3 pts. after 4 turnovers AND shitty clock management. We came oh so close, it hurts. But they fought hard.

Comment by SFC SKI

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:16:37 EST

Having lived outside Philly and Boston, but being a legacy Cleveland fan, I had no dog in the fight but was still glad to see this matchup. Sure,, Philly lost, but they put up one hell of a fight, played very well, and have nothing to be ashamed of.

Comment by bhw

Mon, 7 Feb 2005 01:04:54 EST

I'm sure it doesn't help your not-bitterness, Mike, that Bill Belichick didn't win too many games when he coached the Browns. But now he's a genius and has won 3 Super Bowls in New England with a no-name, cement-footed quarterback drafted in the 6th round.

Comment by Mike Kole

Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:07:25 EST

I certainly have no sympathy for sports fans in Boston. The Red Sox are merely Evil Empire Jr. to the Yankees; Super Bowls in 3 of 4 seasons; the Bruins made the NHL playoffs for more than 25 years straight in a stretch, and the Celtics won more championships than most NBA franchises have won playoff series. Not to sound too bitter, or anything.

Comment by Matt Egan

Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:02:34 EST

Yeah, bummer. Cleveland is definitely a city that feels our pain.

Comment by Mike Kole

Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:57:33 EST

21 years is a long wait, but you aren't dying in Philly. I'm 36 and I've never experienced a championship. Having grown up in Cleveland, our sports teams sucked with a capital 'S' until the mid-80s and the Browns made it to the AFC championship 3 times on 4 years, just to lose each time to Elway and the Broncos. In the 90's, the Indians had enough offense to get to two World Series, just to lose. It's been since 1964 that Cleveland has tasted a championship in any of the major sports. Now that I'm in Indianapolis, I thought my chances would improve with the Colts and the Pacers, but the Patriots have Manning's number, and the Pacers got themselves suspended out of the Eastern elite. *sigh* I did want the Eagles to win, though. Bummer for us.

Comment by Matt

Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:24:28 EST

May the best team win!!!

Comment by Dave

Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:13:10 EST

GO PATS!