Blogcritics: Comments on Close

Comment by P6

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:49:51 EST

Well, there's that...

Comment by JR

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:36:39 EST

My father has been a self-employed truck driver all his life! I don't see how he benefited from anything the govt has EVER done! They kept repaving the roads his truck tore up.

Comment by P6

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:09:56 EST

My father has been a self-employed truck driver all his life! I don't see how he benefited from anything the govt has EVER done!

You need to look more closely at what the government does then.

He's been shot at by union cronies, shot at by assholes in Detroit for no other reason than being there! and the govt never did a damn thing to help him.

That was then. Now that can no longer be done with impunity because the government will not allow it. I'm tempted to paraphrase a new friend and say you're bing dominated for your own good, but that would just be sarcasm (that I still couldn't resist mentioning, you'll note).

How would I not be here without SS?

"this type of social support." I'm thinking New Deal programs in general.

Comment by andy marsh

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:06:25 EST

My father has been a self-employed truck driver all his life! I don't see how he benefited from anything the govt has EVER done! He's been shot at by union cronies, shot at by assholes in Detroit for no other reason than being there! and the govt never did a damn thing to help him. SS was NEVER meant to be a sole means of support for anyone! How would I not be here without SS?

Comment by P6

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:43:28 EST

Too many people have no choice. You can call it old-age welfare if you like. How many of you would even BE here if this sort of social support wasn't available? I find it remarkable how few people realize they are only in a position to oppose such programs because they and their families benefitted from them in the past. A lot of you guys are being looked at the same way Black folks look at Black Conservatives that oppose affirmative action programs after getting their current position through one or more of them. WHich is not to start an afformative action discussion but to give you a clear parallel.

Comment by andy marsh

Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:39:16 EST

As my father tells me, SS was never meant as a retirement plan, it was supposed to supplement retirement plans. To many people rely on it as old age welfare.

Comment by P6

Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:47:21 EST

To be honest, I don't have the "command and control" issue. I like the idea of not worrying about tripping over starving homeless old folks so I'm willing to compromise.

Comment by Mike Kole

Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:05:39 EST

Close, indeed. I supports markets, but I do not support Bush's proposed reforms. At the base of it all, I oppose the premise that people must be forced to contribute to a retirement fund. It isn't any better to this free marketeer that we would still be forced to contribute, but that some portion of it might be allocated to a stock portfolio. What's a fiscal conservative to do? Today's Republicans are just as interested in command and control as the average Democrat. Good book list!