Lately, the conservative side has been telling us to 'listen' to rural America. Well, perhaps it would work best if both sides listened to each other. I didn't see anything other than dissent in any of those photos, and only the burning of the effigy was a bit much, the rest looked like a lot of people who take their civil liberties very seriously. I'm sure they don't expect you to understand. Perhaps, instead of recoiling in horror at the photos, you should be congratulating the great uniter.

That's the Left's problem, BCB. They see nothing wrong with such sentiments as:

"FUCK MIDDLE AMERICA"

"Can We Secede Already?"

"BUSH = SATAN"

"IMMIGRANTS AGAINST DEMOCRACY"

"I am ashamed to be an American"

"NO BLOOD FOR ISRAEL"

"Investigate the CIA for 9-11"

"No to war for capitalist profits!"

...and the burning of the American flag.

I am unsurprised you offer praise for these loons.

It is not merely Bush they have a problem with, it is Middle America. When large groups of people have protests like this in Des Moines, I'll worry.
I love San Francisco, and I wouldn't want it or its inhabitants to change, but that is why they went to SF in the first place, it is a great city that attracts a lot of people who were not happy in flyover country and moved. It attracts more of the same and so it goes.

I'm not sure why anyone would expect a city with a large gay population to not feel like saying "fuck middle America" right now, since that is precisely what has been said to them BY middle America. Or haven't you heard? The red middle states and the conservative party are saying the election is a victory for and by middle America and their values, a.k.a, the anti-gay agenda.

Until the people in middle America realize that as a majority, they should not use that majority -- as their ancestors have done before them -- to deny equal access to the American dream to a specific minority, they will continue to hear and see some outrage.

The left goes nuts in SF? What about the people on the right who terrorize abortion clinics and the women who use them? What about the right-wingers who protest gay rights events by holding signs that say "God hates fags", and have slogans like "Matthew Sheppard has been in Hell for X days"? Get off your ridiculous moral high-horse and take a look at the fringe on the right if you want to see some serious hate and intolerance.

Don't get too worked up, empath. RJ is known for Chicken Little-style hyperbole when it comes to denigrating the Left.

clearly.

RJ, First, I will again challenge you to give me some stats regarding your comments on my blog yesterday. Second, as vile as you may see these images the great thing about them is that this can only happen in America. Our citizens right to stand up and say "FUCK BUSH" without getting our fingers chopped off or our wife raped or our children hung is the greatest thing on this earth. THIS is the basis of our country. EVERYONE in this country has a right to their opinion and when right wing, opinionated fanatics such as yourself start placing moral judgments on society then YOU my friend are the one that is wrong. The law in this country is that we are allowed to do pretty much whatever we want just as long as we don't kill or hurt anyone mentally or physically or break any existing laws. You are not the law and if I want to make a statement that this country is WHACKED by burning an American flag (not that I would) then I have every right in the world to do so. And THAT is a beautiful thing baby. THAT is what the left stands up for. They stand up for your sorry whining ass so you can sit behind there and stab them in the back on the internet. STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS ON SORRY, SAD, PATHETIC PEOPLE LIKE THIS WILL RISE UP AND STEAL THEM AWAY! Just talk to the gays about that. The majority does not rule in this country my friend. The constitution does. Get used to it or YOU can leave the country.

here's an example of 'vile' behavior on the right:

in manchester, new hampshire, during the last couple of days before the election somebody went around dropping handfuls of roofing nails in the driveways of people having kerry/edwards signs on their lawns.

there are nutjobs on both sides of the line in this country.

it's friggin' scary.

Yensid:

Two points:

- While these loons obviously have the right to make asses of themselves, their behavior is counter-productive. Maybe 20% of the country finds such "street theater" to be amusing or even endearing, the other 80% of America finds it disturbing. Your side loses potential supporters through such public displays of idiocy. And then you lose elections. Like this last one. :-D

- I never said they did not have the right to free speech. I support their freedom of speech. And the same First Amendment that allows them to burn the American flag and compare our President to the Devil gives me the freedom to criticize/mock them for doing so.

Get it?

Your post, RJ, tells me more about you and the right than about the left.

I'm sure that not even you "in your hearts of hearts" think that the "Black Bloq" is representative of those who disagree with you.

Yet you continue the name calling, the guilt by association smears, the derogation.

Now that the election is over, these aren't the acts of a right wing partisan; they're the acts of a nasty little weasel.

I've seen the same elsewhere, so it looks like the "uniting" is going to be four years of "My way or the highway."

That's now The American Way.

"I'm sure that not even you "in your hearts of hearts" think that the "Black Bloq" is representative of those who disagree with you."

Not at all. But the other Leftist loons in those photographs are a pretty accurate depiction of the fringe kooks that hate our President.

"Now that the election is over, these aren't the acts of a right wing partisan; they're the acts of a nasty little weasel."

Hey, Hal "Zogby" Pawluk: Whatever happened to Kerry winning by 6 points?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

If you could look past the sloganeering and lies of the administration you would see that America lost.

But the piper is standing just out of sight, tuning up his instrument.

Get your checkbook ready.

My checkbook's never been fatter.

Ever the gratuitous, creepy insults, RJ.

I'd imagine that it must be a horrible life, waking up every morning knowing that a loathsome, slimy mind is as good as it's going to get for the rest of the day.

But maybe it's different looking out than it appears to be from the outside.

comment #15: yet another comment that makes me proud to be a blogcritic.

RJ, just because someone voices their opinion does not make them a liberal. Especially when it is aimed at our leadership. Arguing with you is pointless and until you come up with an opinion and a point to your posts you will be in the minority on this site. Especially when you call people pointy head liberals when you have no friggin' idea. Turn off Limbaugh and get out off Ann Coulter's bitch podium and come back to the middle where we all belong.

To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
- Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Just what do you expect from a group of sexually disenfranchised citizens?

C'mon, can't you just let RJ wank to his pornography in peace? Obviously the vile little creature has nothing else.

PLEASE - I have had to edit a bunch of nonsense from this thread. Let us strive to refrain from personal insults. I really have much better things to do

I think some people are forgetting that not all of San Francisco is gay, but it is definitely comprised of a larger amount of "outsiders" if you will, those who do not identify with many of the tenetes and values of the mainstream, if such a thing exists.

I see my Ms. Edwards comment was erased. Cute.

It's nice to know that posters can compare our President to Hitler and a retarded monkey, and it's par for the course, but if I point out that Ms. Edwards is a little bit "broad of beam" that is apparently beyond the pale.

Jesus...

RJ, subtlety counts - when four separate people complain publicly and privately about a single comment, there is no choice. You said the same thing much more tactfully above. Don't you realize this is game?

RJ, I am not sure what relevance her physical appearance has on anything, not to mention the fact that as far as I recollect she hasn't done one negative thing at any point in the campaign. She seems like a really nice lady and a good mom -

"I am not sure what relevance her physical appearance has on anything, not to mention the fact that as far as I recollect she hasn't done one negative thing at any point in the campaign."

So, when she suggested that the Cheneys were ashamed of their own daughter, that wasn't a "negative thing"?

"you on the other hand are a petty, small, ignorant pile of quivering hatred who deserves and will most surely receive the largest hand of karma bitchslapping you silly for being a cruel heartless jerkoff."

You're taking the election results quite well, I see...

While Bush/Hitler comparisons have been so overdone that they have the opposite effect than that intended now, still, comparing the two, or calling Bush retarded, is personalizing the anger/frustration at the ideology, the policy, etc. Narrowing in on the source of one's angst.

Talking about a politician's wife's weight, or laughing about the politician's 'well-groomed hair', or the many derogatory comments you've made about Theresa HK's appearance, are completely different, because none of those things affect you directly, they are nothing more than grade-school insults. Any similiar references about Laura Bush, etc. should be treated the same way, but for some reason you don't hear the left doing a lot of that, do you?

RJ, I hope your mother reads what you post. And I hope she feels shame. Because you obviously don't.

oh yeah right..and your mother would be proud of the bullshit you right Jim!!!

You know, everyone would be much better off if both sides reigned it in a bit.

It's good to have both sides, but it's the nutjobs on the extreme ends of the see-saw that give both sides a bad name. People just need to scoot a bit towards the middle of the thing. It'll still rock, but the ride won't be so wild.

Don't 'cha think?

Vic

Is this what passes for commentary? RJ has the right to his opinion, it would be nice if he came across as informed when doing it. Can RJ leave these one sentence, one link posts for his barely updated, and poorly formatted blog?

See--here is where we can get different. I can call Andy an asshole, without branding all Republicans as assholes. This is where RJ fails.

And Andy, please stop with the "I'm not a Republican" stuff. Its quite transparent.

label me an asshole...but I am not a republican...I'm an independant...I'd vote for anyone that I agree with...and no matter what party I'm affiliated with...Edwards wife still has a monstrous ass!!!

You and Bill O'Reilly are independents. Sure

no andy, but is that how you wish to present yourself?

probably not...but sometimes...I guess... I just like to make an ass of myself and say something that's not exactly politically correct...something that I find totally amusing...and I really don't care if somebody else finds it funny or not.

You know...a you might be a redneck if kind of thing...or a ...this blonde did this kind of thing...sometimes...it's just funny to me and I have to say it out loud...sorry if I offend anyone...but I'm not all that politically correct all of the time!

I find alot of life really really amusing...

I wouldn't tolerate someone talking shit about Laura Bush either - as I tend to have respect for humans regardless of their political affiliations.

Have a nice day.

Andy, so far I still like you and appreciate your self-deprication and sense of humor.

I would hate to have to make a voodoo doll of you too.

btw - comment # 40 was for RJ

I get the feeling I wouldn't like that either Dawn!!!

Don't worry Andy, I have learned that a little restraint and a sense of humor can go a long way towards swallowing huge quantities of hateful nonsense.

There was a time that I didn't like Jim Carruthers - but I have learned that he is just a silly guy most of the time and totally harmless - RJ on the other hand is meanspirted and hateful - just a useless meanie lacking any real point.

So you have two teenage daughters? WOW, no wonder you have a sense of humor.

yes Dawn...God is punishing me for things I did when I was younger by giving me to very beautiful teenage daughters.

I've found that laughing is much better than crying and pulling my hair out...

It may be why I still have a full head of hair at my age!

Thank you for editing the scatalogical stuff...