Is Israel still God's chosen nation?
Published October 03, 2004
One can not reject the fact that Israel was once God's dearest nation among nations, according to the stories of the old testament, in the Holy Bible. God's love for the Israelites was so strong that he called his servant Moses to go to Egypt to liberate the Israelites from the hands of Pharoah. But what about this modern times? Is Israel still God's nation?
The fact that God loves Israel, in religious aspects, is now a concept to the Israelites that they are superior to any nation on earth. But the almighty God, dislikes this concept of pride, since the same scriptures says "God created man in his own image" - thus all men are equal. To take away this pride and bring understanding among all men, God sent his only son Jesus Christ.
John 3:17, says For God did not send his son to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. The scripture didn't say that God sent his son to save the Israelites, but the whole world. In this case everybody is important in the sight of God. The Jews refused Jesus and his message, calling him even a devil, because they want to cling to that pride as God's chosen nation.
Please Israel not this time - God loves everyone - take away that pride and respect the blood of every human being.
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- Published: October 03, 2004
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- Writer: Joel Savage
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Ooops. Maybe I should proofread, too. It should read "upon what are you basing" and not "upon what are basing."
Joel, I'm struggling not to use Dick Cheney language in response to this utterly asinine quote, Please Israel not this time, God loves every one, take away that pride and begin to respect the blood of every human being.
You really need to have the taste slapped out of your mouth for this ridiculous and dishonest statement. What kind of morally perverted universe do you live in to make Israel out to be the bad guys?
They try very hard to avoid killing innocents, even as Palestinians are daily purposely trying to murder as many Jewish women and children as possible. They've absorbed far more pure senseless violence than anyone could reasonably expect.
Israel would be well justified in being FAR harsher than they have been. What, you expect them to just sit there and let these bastards murder them? Would you?
Also, are you in fact a Christian? I find it difficult to imagine someone who actually believes in the Bible coming to these conclusions. This perversion of Biblical teachings sounds more like the careful twisting of a left-wing atheist than anything an actual Christian would come up with.
I would have to disagree with this interpretation of religion, history, and the current state of affairs as well
Hello Dana, it's nice to hear your comments too. I have to let you understand that I don't hate a jew. I wrote this article because to the jews, everyone is a sinner, and they are the most righteous people on earth. The scriptures says "We all come short the glory of God", so then everyone could sin. Thanks.
You are incorrect, Joel. Jews do NOT believe everyone on earth is a sinner. That is a Christian philosophy. I ought to know. I'm a Christian. Jews believe that you must do your best to do good works and please God. They wholeheartedly believe that everyone comes short of the glory of God, and they don't put themselves over others. You really need to spend a few hours at the website I gave you. You really, honestly have your facts completely wrong. I agree with Al.
Some dimwitted [supposed] Christian starts in with the thinly veiled anti-Semitism, and Al takes the opportunity to blame the post on the mysterious, nefarious, "careful twisting of a left-wing atheist." Typical.
Try blaming the ignorance of the post on the person who wrote it, someone who obviously skims the bible to cherry pick passages that, out of context, allegedly support his existing dislike of Jews and Israel.
Yes, BHW, but it is a noteworthy pattern that the author who would come up with these anti-semitic slurs also is a pretty hardcore leftist. Read Joel. In America today, most major anti-Israeli talk comes from leftists, so that doesn't surprise me.
This is not to besmirch all people whose beliefs fall to the left, but that is generally where they mostly hang out.
Whereas Israel relies on the goodwill of American Christians. Other than their own guts, the main root of such international support as Israel has is the American fundamentalist Christian community. So, I'll not hold Joel against Christians generally.
I read what the dude said, Al. He used his Christian interpretation of the bible to reinforce a stereotype of Jews/Israel. He's certainly not the first Christian I've heard do that. [They killed Jesus, remember!] In fact, the support you say Christians give Israel often has nothing to do with Israel's right to sovereignty and/or self-defense -- it's all about the second coming. Anything that brings that about is good by those folks. Israel is just a means to an ends -- otherwise, there's nothing particularly special about that nation to them.
The Jews refused Jesus and his message, calling him even a devil, because they want to cling to that pride as God's chosen nation.
Them there's Joel's words, not the words of an atheist or leftist. Those on the left who criticize Israel do so over the country's actions, not some biblical interpretation of their place in god's eyes or some collective "trait" Jews have.
In fact, many on the left who criticize Israel are themselves Jewish, so I don't give much credence to your sweeping generalization of leftist anti-Semitism.
leftist anti-Semitism is particularly prevalent in Europe, where it is at least semi socially acceptable, as it is not here
And in addition, for the sake of clarity, Joel is an African living in Belgium, he is not an American
Hello Dana, I have carefully read your interesting and educative comments about this article. Out of comments one learns a lot. Thank you very much. Joel
The scripture is very clear. Romans 2:28-29, which states, "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit." The inheritance of a people, therefore, is clearly not based upon nationality, but upon a Spiritual measure. Galatians 3:6 and 3:29 tells us, "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." And we are also taught, "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise"
Nothing anti-semitic about this at all. The Jews are no longer God's chosen since ethnicity is no longer an issue. The seed of Abraham are those who have the faith of Abraham, not blood lineage.
Abraham was the father of Isaac and Issac the father of Jacob. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. Where is the confusion coming from? Let me break it down even further, for example we have John's name changed to Thomas (by God)..Thomas became the father of the Thomaslites....do you get it? Israel became the father of the Israelites...this does not mean the the nation/country Israel are God's chosen people. Remember Jesus/Yahshua said it himself, the Jews today are nothing but a synagogue of satan...Please people, do not be misled or confused.







First of all, and since I'm rather new to Blogcritics, I might be wrong, but I don't think this is a proper forum for proselytizing. Second, upon what are basing the accusation that Israel has fallen out of favor with God because of their pride? This is a very anti-Semitic post, shockingly so. You know very little about Jews. Actually, Jews are among the most accepting and open-minded people in the world. Their religion teaches them that every person, as a descendant of Noah, has a place in the afterlife, and one does NOT have to be a Jew. You ought to educate yourself: this site, Jew FAQ, is a good start. I don't normally like to stir up anything, but I could not let this go. I'm not a nasty person, generally, but frankly, you are wrong on many points here. Oh, and you might want to proofread, as well.