PITRIFF - Yeah.

SK - So it came that within forty-eight hours the whole thing blew over our heads, that KMFDM, as an icon of an enemy, did not stick with Middle America, and then the media shifted to Rammstein, which was more well-known, and especially to Marilyn Manson, because everybody loves to hate Manson. So in the end, it's like most news stories, they misrepresented the actual story, which, I don't give a shit, you know? That was the good thing.

PITRIFF - I hear you. It seems to me that until we all die, it's going to be an endless cycle. Let's blame the music. Let's blame Ozzy, let's blame Priest, let's blame Manson and KMFDM and so on. I don't think it's ever going to stop, you know? People are just so confused they have to find something, and unfortunately, music ends up taking it in the butt.

SK - Right, well, it's got to be something, right?

PITRIFF - Yeah, I guess. (laughs)

SK - (laughs)

PITRIFF - Well, on the heels of your last disc, WWIII Live 2003, you're about to begin another tour. Going in hand that you're in control of everything, this is a self-financed tour, right?

SK - Yeah, absolutely, totally self.

PITRIFF - Right on, so you're celebrating twenty years. How's this going to work for you, man? Is this the first time you've self-financed a tour?

SK - We've always self-financed our tours in the past few years, but it was always by the means of overhaul product, so this time it's simply based on the guarantees, and we're looking good. It looks like KMFDM is on the up, and the little downswing we experienced the last couple of years is hopefully turning. Promoters seem really happy to have us back and back, year after year, and they're doubling and tripling our guarantees.

PITRIFF - Good.

SK - Yeah, so hopefully something will stay in our pockets and then we can, you know...lock ourselves up in the studio and make a new piece of mayhem!

PITRIFF - There you go, man! You're beginning in Canada, when?

SK - October 6th.

PITRIFF - Okay, cool, then you swing down to the States. So, this is my last question, really, what are your expectations for this tour, you know, it's...you're probably pumped, I'm sure. Rush is celebrating thirty years this year and you guys twenty. You probably have an extra bounce in your step.

SK - Well, I'm looking forward to twenty-five years, actually. I think that's going to be a real anniversary, you know, one that is worth mentioning. (laughs)

PITRIFF - (laughs) So are you looking to mix up most of the albums on this tour, or are you concentrating on a certain period of time?

SK - Well, we actually incorporated a bunch of older tracks into the set now.