Blogcritics Comments on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Comment by a farrooki on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:34:46 EDT

starbucks was right to fire that employee. when you work for someone you should do your job and keep your opinions to yourself. if you don't like the system move on to something else and let some poor third world worker have your place, ( a mexican or poor arab) they'll appreciate a pay check,thanks for letting me "vent", Ahmed. ]]>

Comment by sydney on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Sun, 15 May 2005 14:43:58 EDT

I can't believe some of you guys on here. This is a simple case of a guy complaining about his boss in what he thought was a private discussion. What the fuck was the boss reading his employee's journal for anyway? Even if he did stumble across it on the Internet, or if someone snitched to him, there is no reason to believe these comments do any real harm to the boss. How fragile is his ego? Starbucks, obviously, wasn't going to suffer from a few "unflattering comments" directed at one of their employees. The truth is there is no real damage done here, other than to the person who has lost their income. Anyone who has ever worked in a managers position knows that a percentage of their employees are not going to like them, and that a percentage of their employees will at some time or other mutter unflattering remarks about them. You just accept that and continue to try to do the best you can. This Manager is a vindictive fuck who, it would seem, went out of his way to read his employees journal. Such a fuckin joke. As is typical in America you guys are all discussing the legal implications as if this issue needs to go to court. For Christ sakes, every time something goes wrong in a person's public life, they don't need to waste public funds by taking it to court. If a manager from a Starbucks wants to act like an egomaniacal asshole than he deserves to be judged by those who know him as such. And I guess the remaining employees at Starbucks are showing unwavering loyalty to this manager after the firing? We certainly shouldn't expect any of those remaining employees to mutter unflattering remarks towards him. Problem solved for this manager; wise decision on his behalf. ]]>

Comment by Douglas Mays on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:14:00 EDT

Mac, very true, one must beware of the mask of discrimination, predjudice... plg ]]>

Comment by Mac Diva on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:54:48 EDT

Some people think I am an anarchist or something. However, the law is an inherently conservative profession. It is almost impossible to have a good legal mind and not find oneself balancing interests, including those of 'bad' entities such as employers. So, when it comes to issues such as this one, I find myself parting company with the IndyMedia set. Note that I am not saying that I think workplaces are wonderful the way they are, but 'let's be realistic about the way they are.' Doug, one of the avenues that an employee does have when fired is discrimination claims -- gender, race, and age. Unions can also mitigate firing of employees at will. So, Mike Kole's belief in freedom of association (often used to mask discrimination) is not quite the status quo. I was in a curmudgeonly mood the other day, so I have another entry some folks will find odd coming from an 'anarchist' up. After all, dogs are people, right? ]]>

Comment by Mike Kole on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:42:41 EDT

As a former employer and current employee, I can see both sides of the inherent respect issues here. No matter which side of things I am on, I expect internal issues to be handled internally. Managers rightly take employees they feel are out of line 'behind the woodshed' out of respect. Nobody else hears or sees the employee being addressed, thereby sparing that person public embarassment. As an employer, I expected employees to bring grievances to me out of the same courtesy. This person failed to give this courtesy in posting to the blog. Fair is fair. If a manager publicly dresses down an employee, there are grounds for action against that manager. I disagree with the undertone of negativity against working under 'at-will' conditions. An employer who hires and fires at will has their freedom of association preserved. ]]>

Comment by Douglas Mays on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:10:48 EDT

Are you sure it wasn't a racist thing, the blog excuse as a cover up? He is Canadian, you know. sorry MacDiva, just ribbing you a bit (take notice to bogcritics letters lately). Anyway, Starbucks probalby had good reason. The guy was sick? Or is he a whiney hypocondriac. To many elements to be answered here to come up with an opinion. peaceloveguidance ]]>

Comment by Jason Koulouras on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:35:04 EDT

It will be interesting to see if this one gets into the courts because it would be a precedent setting case one way or the other I have been following this and have not seen anything about the ex-employee taking legal action Cheers ]]>

Comment by RJ on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:50:57 EDT

Surprisingly, though, I pretty much agreed with the rest of your post. Good work! :) ]]>

Comment by RJ on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:47:52 EDT

"Starbucks is a company some people find easy to hate. It is big. It serves an appetite one might consider a want, not a need." Okay, I'm only three sentences into your post, and I already disagree! :) "...one might consider a want, not a need..."? "...might consider..."??? Coffee is NOT a "need." There is no debating this. This isn't a matter of opinion, where one "might consider" one thing and someone else "might consider" something else. Coffee is no more a "need" than cigarettes, Big Macs, or meth. ]]>

Comment by Temple Stark on Starbucks' blogging barista fired fairly

Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:25:35 EDT

The guy should be so fired - as I would expect to be if I mouthed off about my boss, my employer, in what is, by definition, a public place - the Internet. You give it out to friends and family - you're potentially defaming a man's reputation. Stupid whining MoFO. ]]>