Where Did The WMD Go?

Written by Evilwhiteguy
Published August 16, 2004

The lack of finding any substantial stockpiles of WMD in Iraq after the war has drawn into question their very existence. However, a story out today in the Washington Times offers up a suggestion of where they might have gone:

Saddam Hussein periodically removed guards on the Syrian border and replaced them with his own intelligence agents who supervised the movement of banned materials between the two countries, U.S. investigators have discovered. The recent discovery by the Bush administration's Iraq Survey Group (ISG) is fueling speculation, but is not proof, that the Iraqi dictator moved prohibited weapons of mass destruction (WMD) into Syria before the March 2003 invasion by a U.S.-led coalition.

The story goes on to detail the process of sending the Iraqi Intelligence Service to the borders and sending the border inspectors away. Then trucks carrying banned materials could then freely flow in and out of Syria. Once the trucks had crossed, the regular border guards would be brought back in.

This story is confirmed by satellite imagery that spotted the heavy truck traffic across the Syrian border in the days and weeks leading up to the war.

As the article states, this is not proof, but it is definitely a plausible scenario that the CIA and Pentagon are looking into further.

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#1 — August 16, 2004 @ 18:59PM — Jim Carruthers [URL]

Uhm, this is the same Washington Times owned by Rev. Moon who recently sold Russian submarines with missile launchers to North Korea (which was then used to war-scare USAians that North Korea had missile launching submarines), after getting crowned King of the World in DC by Congress-critters? Yah, I'll buy that for a dollar.

In other news, two weeks ago, The Weekly World News had a front page story that most hookers are actually Space Aliens.

#2 — August 16, 2004 @ 19:05PM — Jason Koulouras

This conceptual storyline on what might have happened has been kicking around on http://www.debka.com since last year. Iraq certainly had lots of time to move things if they needed to.

Hussein is a smart individual and a survivor - he might have had them and other things moved (for example hard cash) to Baathist party control in Syria as a future source of weapons and liquidty (cash). After all, someone(s) is/are funding the current insurgency and bounty money being offered out there.

The question is, if this is the case and Washington knows, what are they doing about it?

Here are some interesting links:

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=780

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=764


#3 — August 16, 2004 @ 19:18PM — Evilwhiteguy [URL]

Here is some more info on that second debka link:

http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/syria/al-safir.htm

#4 — August 16, 2004 @ 19:31PM — Jim Carruthers [URL]

Those wack-ass urls didn't resolve properly. Isn't this the site you were intending to link to?

(and hey, get a room, you two)

#5 — August 16, 2004 @ 20:20PM — Hal Pawluk [URL]

The Bushies must be getting desperate to be recycling nonsense like this.

The story is mostly about Saddam's black market activities, published in the Reverend Moon's organ, and is based on anonymous sources. (It reminds me of the stories Chalabi fed the administration.)

What they really say is that "the ISG has confirmed [anonymously] the practice of IIS agents going to the border." [Note: no smoking gun, no WMDs.]

They say investigators "have heard from Iraqi sources [don't forget Chalabi's "Curveball"] that the maneuver was done days before the war at a time of brisk border movements."

So far, still no real story, and not a hint of WMD movements. And to clinch it, in the next sentence they say that even that statement is speculation: "That particular part of the disclosures has not been positively confirmed."

Strikes me as a pretty pathetic effort, even for Moonies, EWG. Give it a rest.



#6 — August 16, 2004 @ 22:39PM — RJ [URL]

Ah, the "Moonies" slur comes into play. How suprising... :-/

#7 — August 16, 2004 @ 23:56PM — Shark

Funny, I heard the weapons of mass destruction were put in the same location as the American budget surplus.

--Who ya gonna believe?

#8 — August 17, 2004 @ 00:28AM — David Flanagan [URL]

A couple of points:
1) When Shark or other libs post commentary, they get very annoyed when you treat their points with the same flippant attitude that they now exhibit here.
2) The entire world was sure that Saddam had those weapons. In his book, "American Soldier," Tommy Franks confirms even further that belief in that he discusses how he was warned by nearly every one of Iraq's neighbors that Saddam had the weapons and had every intention of using them against the US.

What if he DID have those weapons and got most, if not all, of them out before the invasion? Who has them and what do they intend to do with them?

Considering the danger those kinds of weapons pose, we can't afford to be flippant about this possibility. At least, the President of The United States cannot. I guess the liberals can; at least until someone murders enough of them with WMD.

David

#9 — August 17, 2004 @ 00:59AM — Shark

Flanagan: "...When Shark or other libs post commentary, they get very annoyed when you treat their points with the same flippant attitude that they now exhibit here."

A couple of points:

1) Davey, Davey, I don't EVER get annoyed at digital dots on a screen -- and could give a flying fuck how you 'treat' my 'points'.

2) I treat this shit with a 'flippant attitude' because it's a laughable load of horse shit offered to the public by the most cynical, lying, manipulative bastards around. (not you, davey, but the Wash Times)

3) I'm not a 'lib'; I'm a Liberal Reactionary -- which means I'm SO conservative that I totally oppose every smidgen of activities that spew forth from the GOP and that sock puppet President of yours.

4) I don't make "points". I mock everyone elses -- sorta whistilin' my way toward Armageddon.

And unlike you, I don't operate under the inflated delusion that what I say here might change someone's uniformed knee-jerk opinion. We're all preaching to the choir, it's just that I'm funny and entertaining -- and you're not.


ALSO, extra points for this line:

"Considering the danger those ...weapons... we can't afford to be flippant.... At least, the President of The United States cannot. ...the liberals can; at least until someone murders enough of them with WMD.

Love the Inspirational Fear Factor!

Bush has learned one thing during his presidency: that FEAR SELLS, and with speeches like the one above, you could probably take your act door-to-door and make a "killing" on Duct Tape.

Or as the comics say, "You could Murder 'em!"

PS: You're really cute when you're serious -- but now I'm starting to fear you more than some imaginary WMDs stored in a imaginary garage in Bumfuck, Syria.


xxoo,
Great White (never annoyed) Shark

#10 — August 17, 2004 @ 01:00AM — boomcrashbaby

David, Shark identifies as a conservative not a liberal.

#11 — August 17, 2004 @ 01:03AM — Shark

Oh, man, am I SORRY! My apologizes to everyone!

I should have known that I was dealing with a serious essay when it was authored by someone calling themselves "Evil White Guy".

Jeez, how could I have been so 'flippant'!? What was I thinking!?



#12 — August 17, 2004 @ 01:08AM — Shark

Dave: "The entire world was sure that Saddam had those weapons."

And yall thought I was the King of Hyperbole.

Two words, Dave:


SCOTT



RITTER.




#13 — August 17, 2004 @ 01:31AM — Hal Pawluk [URL]

Is that the same General Tommy Franks who suggested that there's a good chance of martial law being declared in America before the election?

Yeah, I thought so.

#14 — August 17, 2004 @ 13:25PM — Hal Pawluk [URL]

David, could you give me the exact quotes and page numbers from the Franks book where this happens:

In his book, "American Soldier," Tommy Franks confirms even further that belief in that he discusses how he was warned by nearly every one of Iraq's neighbors that Saddam had the weapons and had every intention of using them against the US.

It may be true, but in your How Low Can They Go; Pt. Duex! post you claimed:
"This is [the]month in which Mr. Wilson published his book, The Politics of Truth: Inside the Lies that Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity: A Diplomat's Memoir, which claimed, amazingly that the President had not lied about the Niger incident."
I just finished reading the Wilson book yesterday and I didn't find it doing any such thing.

Thanks.



[PS: I inadvertently pasted this same comment into your other post - sorry.]

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