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<title>Comment by Jim Carruthers</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77537</link>
<description>If you need to spin a funeral notice as the weirdest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/carl_hiaasen/9014175.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;political thing out of Florida&lt;/a&gt;, obviously, you aren&#039;t even trying.
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<title>Comment by boomcrashbaby</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77515</link>
<description>&lt;i&gt;does your rule only apply to the dead or dying?&lt;/i&gt;

Only applies to the Left.
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<pubDate>Sun, 1 Aug 2004 13:13:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Distorted Angel</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77509</link>
<description>So RJ, are your comments about &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/194344.php&quot; &gt; Max Cleland&lt;/a&gt; the kind of non-hate you think people should be spewing, or does your rule only apply to the dead or dying?</description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:39:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bhw</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77402</link>
<description>Ooooookay, that last one didn&#039;t work.

Let&#039;s try again.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legacy.com/Herald/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&amp;PersonId=2465955&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the actual death notice in the Miami Herald.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:13:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bhw</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77400</link>
<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legacy.com/Herald/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&amp;PersonId=2465955&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the actual death notice in the Miami Herald.

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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:12:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bhw</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77399</link>
<description>Boom, you hit the nail on the head. 

The article RJ quoted says the Miami Herald ran her death notice and that it included this:

&quot;You can honor Joan&#039;s values by voting against George Bush and contributing to a liberal or Democratic cause.&quot;

Many, many death notices these days include a note to make a donation to one organization or another rather than send flowers. 

This note was not, as RJ characterized it, hatred for another human being. It merely stated her wishes for how people commemorate her life.

Here are two quotes from the article that RJ conveniently left out:

&lt;i&gt;Her sister, Tillie Shapiro, said, &quot;She was just a caring person ... She cared about people, and people who were disadvantaged.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Shapiro said, &quot;It was her (Abbey&#039;s) essence. It was her core value to try to see this country become a better place and become a more just society. And I think that was the last word she&#039;d want to leave.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, I can see how from this simple article RJ can conclude, demonstrably, that the old gal led a shallow life.

There&#039;s definitely some hatred going around, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be coming from the deceased.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:06:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by boomcrashbaby</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77397</link>
<description>Granted, I think my last words...should read... Granted, I think my last &lt;b&gt;wishes&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:55:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bhw</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77396</link>
<description>All I can say is that it&#039;s better to have a passion than to not have one.

BTW, is someone who asks for donations to, say, the American Cancer Society at their funeral &quot;obsessed&quot; with cancer?  </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:52:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by boomcrashbaby</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77395</link>
<description>I wonder what job she had. Perhaps she was involved in politics as a campaign manager, speech writer, or worked in voter registration, etc. I can picture a lot of people who &#039;become their careers&#039; (like Martha Stewart or Bill Gates, etc.) might think of their &#039;job&#039; right before they go. I mention those two, not because they are/were successful but because they are well known. I imagine there are a lot of people like that who aren&#039;t so well known though.

I wouldn&#039;t think that means they have absolutely no life outside of their &#039;love&#039;. Both Martha and Bill both have families or kids.

Granted, I think my last words would be directly to my family/kin, but the fact that hers wasn&#039;t, tells us nothing of the woman.

Let&#039;s all learn the moral of this story, perhaps we shouldn&#039;t pass pitying, moralistic judgement on others of whom we know no more than a few sentences about.

&lt;i&gt;Instead of offering an uplifting message to her kin, this woman offered hate for another human being.&lt;/i&gt;

I read through the post twice. I could see nowhere that one might gain that hate was her motivation. In fact, it said that politics was her core value, that what she wanted more than anything was to make this world a better place in her eyes. Leave it to the conservative spin machine to twist that around to hate.
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:52:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Flanagan</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77390</link>
<description>&lt;i&gt;Loved ones said that Joan Abbey was committed to her political passions, even in death.&lt;/i&gt;

Even for me, there IS life outside of politics.  She was obsessed and wanting as a last desire to see someone voted out of office just seems very sad to me.  I feel even worse for this woman&#039;s family.

There is life outside of politics, unfortunately, Joan Abbey never discovered that basic truth.  Lets all learn the moral of this story, politics just isn&#039;t worth it.

David </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:23:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by jack e. jett</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77385</link>
<description>now i know that rj sits with jesus and all....but how does he know that this lady led a &quot;shallow&quot; life?  

if i give you (rj) a list of names can you give me a description of the type of life they are living?  that is soooo
dr. phil of you....or is it dr. laura?

jack e. jett</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:30:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Evilwhiteguy</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77366</link>
<description>Unfortunately, RJ was feeling a little under the weather this week, so I assumed all the poor-kicking duties.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:19:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by HW Saxton Jr.</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77354</link>
<description>RJ &amp; Flannelman just crossed that fine
line [edited] Cheap shot but not unexpected
from these purveyors of inanity.


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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:49:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by bhw</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77351</link>
<description>This post, from R &quot;stop pissing in Reagan&#039;s grave&quot; J?

What happened to &quot;respect for the dead,&quot; RJ? 

See how the tables are turned when it&#039;s someone you disagree with?

P.S. Wanting Bush out of office is NOT the same thing as hating him.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:25:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Flanagan</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77342</link>
<description>&lt;i&gt;I believe it&#039;s called &quot;Necrointegrity&quot;...&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it&#039;s called &quot;obsession,&quot;  which, based on the number of political posts I&#039;ve put up on my site as well as on Blogcritics, I&#039;ve got enough of already.

Thanks,

David</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:02:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Shark</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77338</link>
<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;If Ms. Abbey&#039;s last wish was for a call to political action, I think that&#039;s swell...&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

I believe it&#039;s called &quot;Necrointegrity&quot; -- and I would welcome much more of it, especially from those on the Far Right.



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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:39:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Flanagan</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77336</link>
<description>Sounds like Ms. Abbey needs to get a life.  Oops!  Too late!

David</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:35:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Distorted Angel</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77316</link>
<description>Joan Abbey sounds like a pretty neat woman, and the rabbi sounds like an insensitive clod for a clergyman (but then what would you expect from a registered Democrat who&#039;s voting for Bush?). An individual&#039;s passing ought to be marked however the individual and his or her family feels is appropriate. If Ms. Abbey&#039;s last wish was for a call to political action, I think that&#039;s swell. She sounds like she had a passion for life.</description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:19:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Shark</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77281</link>
<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;...Sort of harsh to be bashing on the dead, no?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

You should see him kick the poor!

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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 05:15:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by drew</title>
<link>http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/07/31/020737.php#comment-77271</link>
<description>Sort of harsh to be bashing on the dead, no?  

No matter which side of the fence you&#039;re on, I think dedicating your life to what you perceive as improving the country is an honorable and noble thing.  As long as a person does it in a non-violent manner, of course.  </description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:30:27 EDT</pubDate>
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