Blogcritics: Comments on Al Barger - Candidate for the U.S. Senate From the Great State of Indiana

Comment by Al Barger

Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:14:10 EDT

Lono, that's Mister Right-Wing Nut Job to you. Is something like this what you mean by "right wing nut job"? XOX

Comment by Lono

Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:58:46 EDT

Someone above mentioned 'I think all Blogcritics should run for office'. That hurts, for I have been in the write in game for months now. See my post here: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/08/10/011056.php Now, that Coors fellow has all the money in the world and will say things like this about my candidacy: he isn't even registered, he is just a guy who writes when he is drunk. and to those accusations I can only answer: well, I am certainly not drunk on your shitty beer sir! anyhow, good luck to you Al. From what little I know you are a right wing nutjob. However, I totally respect you participating in the process.

Comment by Al Barger

Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:12:10 EDT

I am less than impressed with the childish refusal to make the obvious distinction between censorship (which is a function of government operating under force of arms) versus common simple editorial control of your own newspapers or websites. That is all.

Comment by Eric Olsen

Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:21:35 EDT

I believe a more germane response to this would be to thank those who have so polluted the discourse here that we finally had to take some action. And quite contrary to the above prediction, I believe participation will increase as the many who have been driven away return.

Comment by Justene

Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:43:21 EDT

Censorship is a highly charged word. You are implying that there is the type of censorship here that prohibits specific viewpoints, not styles of expressing those viewpoints. That's not the intent or the application.

Comment by Bob A. Booey

Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:27:38 EDT

Please censor this comment about censorship if you please. Thank you.

Comment by Bob A. Booey

Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:25:17 EDT

The VD has triumphed! Finally! At last! Thank you Phillip. And thank you Olsen. The golden age of censorship has begun. Let us all rejoice (in an appropriately polite and guarded way). Hallelujah. By the way, sweeties: I predict you will basically drive off all of your regular commenters and volume of postings. But free speech and vibrant dialogue isn't as important as the Correction, the Ordering of the unruly. That is all.

Comment by Bob A. Booey

Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:39:38 EDT

I'm now running for office under the Values Directorate. We believe all partying and talk of partying should be censored and verboten, so we also object to the word "Party." Hence the name. We also dislike self-deprecating humor and irony in a time in which America's moral fabric is too wrinkled. Our message is spreading amidst the loose morals of this site and throughout America. Do not try and resist catching the VD spirit. Do not try to object to the future that is censorship since your objection will be retroactively censored. IMMEDIATELY. Please monitor your neighbors, friends, and acquaintances to see if they have a proper level of enthusiasm for VD. If they do not have an appropriate quantity of VD materials, please bring the joy of VD into their homes and their lives. As a note to journalists and members of the media, our official campaign slogan will be: "It Burns." Any attempt to ask what "It" means shall be stricken from the public record. College volunteers and youth organizers will not be allowed to use the official slogan but may petition to use the secondary slogan: "It itches." Questions about what "It" means will be deferred to the official Directorate Community standards policy, which indicates that adults may advise children that "It" refers only to "our love for America and Community." A failure to capitalize the latter term will result in forfeiture of the right to employ said clarification for a term of six (6) months minimum, at the discretion of VD administration. Adults are not to employ said definition in response to a query by a fellow adult, unless said adult is wearing an ill-fitting beret, upon which occasion the questioner shall be presumed developmentally challenged and shall be permitted to petition for an authorized reply upon verification of the beret. Questions about the direction of the campaign and the office being sought will not be addressed at this time for confidentiality and security reasons. The candidate's filing forms have been placed on record with the Ombudsman of the Ayn Rand Colloqium for Objectivity, Indiana Chapter 47537, care of Elf King. This is my official press release and campaign announcement, so I expect glowing praise, Olsen. IMMEDIATELY. I hope I can count on each of you. Thank you. I'm Bob A. Booey and I approve this message.

Comment by Dan

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:51:05 EDT

Run Al run! I'm excited you're giving Hoosiers a principled choice this election cycle. I'm not sure how an anonymous lunatics threatend "goon squad" tactics might play in Al's P.R. campaign, but any trail that leads back to Blog Critics and the forthright, consistent, and principled meditations provided in Al's entries is sure to sway many conscientious Hoosier voters. One of the few Constitutionally designated functions of Federal government is to militarily provide for the safety of it's citizens against it's enemies. Reasonable Libertarians can disagree if the war in Iraq fits the bill, but it seems at least that one proven enemy, Al-Qaeda, doesn't like it much.

Comment by BB

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:25:18 EDT

Give Me Liberty... OR Give Me Al!!! I've ran for public office myself Al and I must say you already have one-up on most candidates. You have the thickest hide I've ever seen. All the best to your endeavours in public life. Just remember the rest of us Blokes after you hit the big time.

Comment by Mike Kole

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:42:23 EDT

"There is a possibility that reactions by media to Barger's extremist views will be yawns. People expect Libertarians to be crackpots." MacDiva: What you say is true in most states, but Libertarians have worked hard in Indiana to shed the crackpot image by focusing on issues that matter to voters and to court a solid constituency- small business owners- rather than our own pet issues. You might be surprised to find, as I have been, that the Democrats have been going after the crackpot label rather ardently lately, and succeeding. (Scroll up from my endorsement of Al on my blog for a recent case in point: http://kolehardfacts.blogspot.com/)

Comment by Mac Diva

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 03:13:57 EDT

You keep forgetting the Cadillac, RJ Elliott. On the other hand, you have held forth on 'Tyrone.' Keep digging.

Comment by RJ Elliott

Sat, 19 Jun 2004 02:38:22 EDT

"I hope to read and review them as soon as possible." As long as the gov'ment checks and the BN.com books continue to arrive by mail, why not? :)

Comment by Mac Diva

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:45:12 EDT

MacDiva: it's not worth pointing out his flaws to the media since that will only give their cult attention for controversy. That's Al's primary motivation, I'm sure he'd admit. Good point, Bob. If I can frame the topic correctly, it will be in terms of how the neo-Confederate movement, quite a political force in some states and Washington, does harm. Currently, it is very successfully blocking efforts to add sites associated with helping black people during Reconstruction, such as Freedmen's bureau offices and schools, to the national parks system. That, of course, is part of the perspective Al Barger heavily promotes that the North was the villian in the Civil War, Lincoln a tyrant and, as they say "the South was right." Good news. There are two new books about Lincoln's speech at Cooper Union, which is significant for describing why slavery had to end. I hope to read and review them as soon as possible.

Comment by Andrew Ian Dodge

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:06:50 EDT

Um there are quite a few libertarian hawks. Not all libertarians agree on everything, thankfully.

Comment by Bob A. Booey

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:27:53 EDT

I'd offer the Cosby thread about race as an example of a discussion where you were rebutted into silence for your exclusionary views. I don't think you'd be too proud of that Rosa Parks topic either. Evan Bayh would destroy you and make you look like a raving lunatic in a debate. TV has a funny way of favoring the cool, calm, and collected with a gift for persuasion and thought-out positions. I won't even talk about looks. I think it's irrelevant, though, because you're running under an irrelevant party and won't get any noteworthy attention. Enjoy the ride, though. I'll give you credit for putting yourself out there even though no one will respond. MacDiva: it's not worth pointing out his flaws to the media since that will only give their cult attention for controversy. That's Al's primary motivation, I'm sure he'd admit. Not that it'll work in the least. Libertarian hawk ... that's rich. What a platform. That is all.

Comment by Mac Diva

Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:18:39 EDT

Speak for yourself. RJ Elliott. Or better yet, stop being a hypocrite and volunteer for service in Iraq.

Comment by RJ Elliott

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:18:41 EDT

"However, I am not a candidate type. Too soft-spoken. Too shy. An introvert." Maybe in "The Real World" you're a shut-in. (Wouldn't surprise me. They mail Welfare checks nowadays, right?) But on here you come across as rather ... strident. Ah, the Internet. Allowing those with multiple-personality disorder to run free, undiagnosed.

Comment by Mac Diva

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:11:44 EDT

Jim, dogcatcher would be raising the bar compared to anything Al Barger does. However, I am not a candidate type. Too soft-spoken. Too shy. An introvert. There is a possibility that reactions by media to Barger's extremist views will be yawns. People expect Libertarians to be crackpots. Still, I'll do what I can. Anything that gets attention paid to the neo-Confederate movement is good. With the Trent Lott debacle fading, new avenues are needed.

Comment by Andrew Ian Dodge

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:06:47 EDT

Good luck Al. Unlike some of the others here I hope you win. Make good show of it and get the libertarian message across to as many people as possible. Politics is a hell of a lot of fun if you just take it too seriously. Just enjoy yourself and sod em' all.

Comment by RJ Elliott

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:58:58 EDT

"Oh, I have contacts, Al." Really? And I always pictured you with glasses...

Comment by RJ Elliott

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:57:22 EDT

I'm running for President... ...of the Hair Club For Men! ;)

Comment by RJ Elliott

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:54:49 EDT

"I endorse Al Barger for the Senate since it's like serving a four year term in federal prison, but with conjugal visits, right?" It's six years, JC. (Shows how much you know about the US of A...)

Comment by RJ Elliott

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:52:59 EDT

"...explaining once and for all to the nation why people named Tyrone can't coach." HEEEEEEERRRRE Diva Diva Diva! ;-)

Comment by CW Fisher

Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:49:17 EDT

This thread's starting to read like a Capra movie. Al, I wish you the best of luck. This begins a great adventure. You're going to meet a lot of new people who will hear your message for the first time. Always give them free stuff. When you gesture, candy should fly out of your sleeve. When you shake someone's hand, whisper in their ear some hot stock tip. And when you meet the powers behind the powers, ask them specifically what they want from you. You can win this thing, Al. But stay away from politics! Nobody cares for politics. People like promises. And coupons! Give coupons. I'm proud of you, Al, honestly, mainly because you've demonstrated time and again that you don't give a shit if people agree with you or not. Your stand is your stand. I prefer a more namby-pamby approach, but I'm a nobody. And the Libertarian thing, I can't knock it, don't know much about it, but I s'pose if you want to eat librarians, that's your choice. Curt