Hell no I won't go...ever!
Published June 15, 2004
"American singer Country Joe McDonald, whose satirical 'Fixin' to Die Rag' anthem condemned the U.S. war in Vietnam, said he will not go to Hanoi to receive a World Peace Music Award and warned that Washington cannot win the guerrilla wars in Afghanistan or Iraq. 'As a hippie protest songwriter, I could not exist in Vietnam today,' said McDonald, lead singer of the psychedelic band Country Joe and the Fish. 'Communism tends to be totalitarian, and I am not supportive of that,' [he] said while performing in Britain recently. 'My parents were American Communists for some time, but they left the party because of a lack of democratic positions by the party.' The second annual World Peace Music Awards will honor McDonald — along with Bob Dylan; Joan Baez; Harry Belafonte; Peter, Paul and Mary, and Vietnam's late Trinh Cong Son — as 'Life of Peace' singers on June 22." (06/14/04)
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- Hell no I won't go...ever!
- Published: June 15, 2004
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It's good to have a position, and not let it be changed or re-considered ever in life just because of new facts or a different situation.
Hey Grandpa, there are boatloads of people with bombs landing in California, think I should pick up a gun and go shoot them before they blow us up?
Oh, HELL no. War is bad. I'm against it. Just say no.
Hey, there's no sense in letting reality interfere with our simplistic belief systems.
what the fuck is this? straw man day or something?
geezuz.
even more relevant, the event was canceled
Well, if the straw men don't want to be criticized, they should stay in the hay loft.
Al,
So the guy is against war, so what? Don't tell me that you support the notion of people killing each other in vain.
I can perfectly well understand someone having looked at the situation in Iraq and then coming to the conclusion that an invasion was not a good idea. Thing is, lots of old hippies and general pinko types just instinctively react.
You just KNOW that Country Joe will be opposed to the war- not because he's considered the facts and merits of the situation and decided this unwise or unnecessary but because he's against war. It indicates a lack of critical thinking.
In fairness, I probably should make that as a general statement about left wingers, and not as a studied statement on Country Joe personally, as I have not devoted the time to researching Country Joe's opinions and analysis of post 9/11 foreign policy.
This is also not to say that conservatives, or Christians, or Libertarians or vegetarians are not sometimes reactionaries as well.
especially considering the event was canceled
Well, when countless people are dying in a senseless hostility-fest, one tends to get a little "reactionary". It stands to reason.
No Josh, refusing to defend yourself stands to reaction. When people are trying to KILL you, it stands to REASON that you hunt them down and kill them first.
It's senseless on their side, as that there's no sense or benefit to attacking us. It would be SENSELESS to just sit here while we are continually being attacked.
"When people are tying to KILL you, it stands to REASON that you hunt them down and kill them first".
Al, no matter what happens, people are still going to die. That's my point. So they kill some of our guys, then we kill some of their guys, where does it end? Violence makes violence. I realize that there's nothing we can do to stop it, but that doesn't change the fact that human beings were not put on this earth to kill each other.
So if a few people don't go to war, do you really think it's gonna make that much of a difference? Whether those people go to war or not, there will still be meaningless acts of violence committed in the name of arrogance. I hardly think that one person staying away from war is gonna drastically the situation.
Al,
Whoops, the last part of that comment should say "..drastically alter the situation".
Damn typos.
Oh, come on Jim and Mark. You get it. Sling lots of blog entries that consist of your name and text from elsewhere, and your page rank goes up. So easy. No writing involved.
"Violence makes violence." Depends. Violence is often required to END violence. That's the lesson of WWII. At some point, the only thing to do was to knock those countries down, and kill big hunks of their society. The Germans and Japanese had all gone rabbit ass violent crazy, and their was nothing to do but for the rest of the world to beat them into goddam submission.
By the way, we were right, and the Nazis and Japanese were wrong. The superior ability to extract submission by violence does not necessarily imply moral rightness. It's just real fortunate for the world that might and right were on the same side in that case.
Our violence in fact ended rather than extended violence.
JOSH, hey it is my old freind. Remember me old freind.
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Good job Country Joe. Sticking to your guns. If I remember right, I saw Country Joe playing in a park here in Seattle. about '67 or so. A good influence on us all.
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