No.

Because Clinton should go first.

Absolutely not. Some people want that "smiling face" erased from their memory. And adding FDR, well, that's just a hook to get Dems to support carving Ronnie Ray-gun's mug into Rushmore, isn't it?

Can we just leave the poor fucking mountain alone? It's bad enough as it is. How STOOPID is it to carve the faces of men into a big rock?

I'd think the fiscal conservatives wouldn't want to waste taxpayer money on such a useless thing.

I'd vote for that. Then again, I don't have to be anywhere near South Dakota on a regular basis.

Yeah, put the face of some Hollywood actor who played a President on a big rock.

"Mommy, look, it's "Broomface" from Dick Tracy!"

And how about Sainthood?

RJ, you and the gushing Reagan love-fest known as the "liberal media" should start a campaign to get the Pope to crown Ronny a Saint.

Patron Saint of Jellybeans?
Patron Saint of the Business Power Nap?
Patron Saint of Memory Loss?
I say it should be "Patron Saint of Record Deficits" --- no, wait, W. Bush is in line for that one. Nevermind.

And have you thought about further fucking up the mall in Washington DC (see Albert Speer's design for the new WWII monument) and maybe adding a giant bronze horse with the Gipper in a cowboy hat?

RJ, how about you provide a personal tribute to your favorite mythological-political being?

You can show what a good little conservative robot you are -- and at the same time -- prove what big balls you have: get a big Reagan tattoo.

Seriously man. Show yer serious.

Doh!

Just saw that there REALLY IS a group that wants yet another friggin' "monument" on the once-beautiful mall in DC.

It seems a library, an airport, and Mt. Rushmore aren't quite enough 'reminders'.

mmm. Dead white Republicans in bronze. I kinda like that idea.

But do they have to be dead first?

Geooooooorrrrrrrrggggeee...

Shark,

Don't forget the office building and the aircraft carrier. And don't forget that Grover Norquist and his crew of nuts are trying to get Reagan on the $10 bill...AND trying to get a Reagan monument of some kind (high school named after him or whatever) in EVERY COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY.

These people are lunatics.

"A monument's dimensions should be determined by the importance to civilization of the events commemorated...Let us place there, carved high, as close to heaven as we can, the words of our leaders, their faces, to show posterity what manner of men they were." - Gutzon Borglum

I have a better idea. Relics. Yes, relics. Parts of Ronald Reagan's body should be sold to the highest bidder. eBay could handle the bidding. That way, the millions of people expressing their deeply felt love for this departed politician could put their money where their mouth is. They would have a piece of the man who called his wife Mommy forever. Since the relics would be held in private hands (preferably after being properly preserved) and shown only to those interested in them, persons who have no fond memories of Reagan or his policies would have no reason to be offended.

But, it would not be fair, you say. Donald Trump, that guy from Enron, and Dick Cheney's chums at Halliburton would snag all the good stuff. George W. himself would pony up the moolah for both testicles. Not necessarily so. Poor and middle-class Republicans (you'd be surprised how many there are) could form collectives and bid as groups. So, there it is. The perfect way for those who love Ronald Reagan to have him with them in perpetuity. The young fellow I tutor at Blogcritics, RJ Elliott, one of those in mourning, could start the bidding. He will offer at least $5 for Reagan's right big toe.

Mac D,
I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to recycle RWR. Sure "Thrifty Republicans used every part of the dead Statesman..." is a good soundbite, but I don't think that Richard Mellon Sciafe (for instance) needs any more spleen.

Plus, it would make Reagan turn over in his grave. Oh, wait.

South Dakota isn't the best part of America for monuments, you have to travel to it. Another part of America is
visible from anywhere.

http://www.ttsw.com/rushmoreisfull.html

Well, if we can't put him in the Washington Mall we'll put him in the Mall of America.

Why not stuff him? Roy Rogers did it.

Ms. Diva's on it with the relic idea. Best of all, it's an easy scam. "This..." you say, holding some dried chicken part in a crystal, "is his pituitary."

Re: Rushmore, I say close the damn thing and redigitize it to whatever you want. It doesn't matter, and I don't care. OK, I do. I want Aaron Burr up there.

What a great distraction from this competitive campaign, this dragged-out war and the whole subject of tits.

OK. So, I'm guessing most Reagan-hating Leftists don't want him on Mount Rushmore. Fair enough.

But, by blocking this, you also prevent the Liberal Lion FDR from being chisled into stone for all eternity.

Sooo...does hate of one overpower love for another? I'll let the philosophers decide...

RJ: "...does hate of one overpower love for another..."

For "leftists" -- love means never destroying a mountain in order to prove your point.

We're zen environmentalists, you nitwit; we prefer to immortalize our heroes in sand paintings.

(btw: Clinton's caption will say "Blow Me.")

The idea of Reagan (or anyone for that matter) being added to a Mt. Rushmore sickens me. Whether or not you're a fan of Reagan, Mt. Rushmore is a national treasure and argueably the greatest and most recongnizable sculpture in the world. To add to it, would be a slap in the face to the original artist and HIS message, and would desecrate the piece as a whole. The work is complete - leave it alone. Name an Airport, or add something to the Mall, but LEAVE RUSHMORE ALONE.

FDR will probably never grace another major monument. Money will see to that.

Mount Rushmore is not a sacred object... if the majority were to deam it, another face would not be sacrilege, at least we recognise that Reagan was photogenic.

Perhaps, since Ronnie was in so many Westerns, we could ask the Ziolkowski family to add him to the Crazy Horse Memorial. That way the RWW could help pay for the Crazy Horse Memorials completion and Ronnie would have a spot where he wouldn't have to be seen with Democrats.

http://www.crazyhorsememorial.org/

Nah. We already have a towering memorial to Reagan's legacy: it's called the national debt.

Leave Mount Rushmore alone.
Mount Rushmore is a work of art.
Sculptor Gutson Borglum (forgive my spelling) wanted to honor four great presidents.
It should be up to the Borglum estate or whoever is entrusted to its upkeep as to whether to add Reagan or Roosevelt or LBJ or anyone to Mt. Rushmore.
To add another face would be like adding another face to the Mona Lisa or the Last Supper.

Don't mess with the mountain. Maybe a big statue that the birds can poop on...

peaceloveguidance

Anyone who has watched the hisory of the carving of Mt.Rushmore should know it isn't feasable to carve another figure on it. First the scuplture is not as it was originaly intended to be,
There was supposed to be a giant stone tabliture to the history of the U.S.
Jackson was first started on the left side of Washington. Due to impurities, cracks in the rock, it had to be destroyed and started again in it's present location, which left no room for the tabliture. And Jackson's head had to be tilted up as they kept running into a crevice in the rock. Today several cracks are monitored visualy and electronicaly on the carving one threatens to send Lincolns nose plumiting to the bottom. So you see that if there was no more room for the tabliture then how is there room for any more heads? Futhermore any new blasting would threaten to destroy the existing carving.

Case Closed

Good information, CA. I can tell you, unlike the person who wrote the entry, did some research on Mount Rushmore. Checking to see if the idea was feasible before promoting it would have made a lot of sense.

And, frankly, I am not seeing a political bifurcation among people about the notion of carving Ronald Reagan's image into the poor mountain. People just think it is a rotten idea.

Feasable schmeasable. The kind of people who would try to put Reagan on Rushmore are the kind of people who would try to curb teen pregnancy by teaching abstinance, protect the environment by deregulating industry, and establish a Arab democracy with minimal troops and wishful thinking. Why the fuck should the laws of physics give them pause?

They'll go ahead and bring the whole mountain-side down in the attempt. Which is cool by me - that would leave the best monument to Conservative hubris.

Hey, Cathy S... don't mention the Last Supper in this context, otherwise people will be down the gallery:

"Well, maybe we could slip Ronnie in at the side..."

"He *was* a great after dinner speaker..."

"It's not too unlikely that Christ would have booked him, had he been able..."

in addition to all the practical matters mentioned about Rushmore, it is also a work of place and time - to alter it would be, as Jose said, a grave disservice to the artist

Show your support, sign the petition. Also check out a artist's rendering.

Here is the url

http://ReaganOnRushmore.org

So, RJ Elliott took this idea from a source he did not have the decency to acknowledge. The pattern continues.

The baseless attacks continue.

I did not get the idea from that site. I did not know that site existed until just now. It was something I heard on the news, when they were mentioning some of the possible ways to honor Reagan (his face on the 10 dollar bill, renaming the Pentagon after him, etc.).

I wasn't claiming it was an original thought on my part. In fact, I believe the idea has been around for years.

You really are one miserable, malicious human being, you know that?

By the way, I believe I've found your picture online: http://www26.brinkster.com/drmds/106.jpg

No wonder you've got such a lousy temperment... ;-)

So, the idea pops right up when one Googles Mount Rushmore and Reagan, but you were not aware of that. Uh huh. Furthermore, if you heard the idea on television news, you should have acknowledged that instead of presenting it as something you thought of yourself. Nowhere in the short, silly entry is an allusion to any source other than yourself made. (And, yes, I know that you are dishonest enough to go change the entry, so I've copied it as it reads now.) I'm seeing a pattern of dishonesty here, RJ Elliott.

A malicious human being might:

*Try to rationalize abusing gays on the grounds they somehow deserve it.

*Happily suggest the murder of thousands of people with nuclear devices.

*Post hate threads againt other Blogcritics in hope of creating turmoil at the site.

All behaviors you have engaged in, RJ Elliott. And, I could make that list longer if I had the interest or time.

"A malicious human being might:

"*Try to rationalize abusing gays on the grounds they somehow deserve it."

Never done that. You're lying (again).

"*Happily suggest the murder of thousands of people with nuclear devices."

Never done that. You're lying (again).

"*Post hate threads againt other Blogcritics in hope of creating turmoil at the site."

I've never posted a "hate thread" about anyone. You, on the other hand, have turned COUNTLESS comments sections into flame-wars by (wrongly)calling fellow BlogCritics racists.

"All behaviors you have engaged in, RJ Elliott."

All are outright lies. Or fantasies. Either way, they ain't true.

"And, I could make that list longer if I had the interest or time."

You've been stalking me on here for months now, personally attacking me in almost every post that I participate in (clearly violating the rules of conduct for this site). You obviously have an "interest" in me that is...not normal.

If I truly do not "interest" you, then please desist from leaving a greasy trail of slime on every post I write. Thanks.

LOL......RJ, that pic was pretty funny......and I'm ashamed to say so.

Anyway, the Mt. Rushmore fiasco is an evil defacement of what should be a beautiful mountain. I have visited that area of the country several times and still refuse to see those hideous images of the dumbfounded presidents etched into that poor fucking mountain. Why not just carve the God-damned American flag into the redwoods of California?

That the numbskulled Native Americans of that region are carving a likeness of Crazy Horse into a nearby hill shows they can be just as much an idiot as the very folk who carved that monstrosity in the first place. I'm all for dynamiting the demon faces and sanding away any sign they ever existed.

Leave the mountains alone people! Go visit Las Vegas if you have to see something man-made to believe you truly exist.....At least there, they happily wallow in the superficial bullshit.....

Re: Reagan's face on a mountain..


If we really want to see his face, we can go rent those old movies...

Hey! He got kicked out of his Post for being bad, so why not just leave it the way it is... Or go build another rush-face mountain somewhere else... and only carve the faces of actual great American leaders, who did a huge lot of honest good for the greatest nation on the planet...

Maybe, somewhere, other than near Rushmore... That one is already Locked History... Leave it be, one of the great wonders of the world, undamaged by prolific human meddling insanity...
You wouldn't go build a plastic Sphinx beside the real one, would you...? On second thought, you probably would...

If you must... then maybe all the great presidents should be carved, as smaller rock faces, and/or as statues... Like go build a brand new, statue and rushface, national park attraction... somewhere where they aren't mining in a national park...
or do it up in honesty, by building it near mining and clearcutting in national parks...

To make it as honest as can be, build their statues and/or faces in locations that echo their best and worst works...
In Reagan's case, he did a lot for the "cold drugs war"... so have him standing barefoot on a glacier, with a spear stuck through a friendly little bunny rabbit, with a bloodied hemp leaf in its mouth...
He did a lot to have Americans bashed, for possessing those bad eastern herbals, those life enhancer drugs... The prisons and graveyards, all over the world, are full of Reagan's victims... So have him standing on the throat of a longhair flowerchild hippy in prison uniform...

He got politically stung after he seriously boobooed, during a televised media, interrogation, press conference...
Recall when he said with great confidence, "I know the great war! I was in it!", and the reporter solemnly corrected him, "Sir, that was only a war movie that you acted in"... "Scalifino!Whamo!" That was the Biggie, that he now had to try to forget it, at all costs... And he knew it was gonna destroy him... he knew it and the nation knew it, and the world knew it... He should have just up and quit that day... from there on, it was downhill all the way...

I believe that Alzheimer's is started at that point in trying to forget Extreme Embarrassment... From there it spreads into the physical, into glandular control systems, modifying glandular output, and spreads to nerve cells, upon triggering the correct mental/physical demand triggers... and from there it's like a runaway freight train of internal self destruction... that even "aspirin" can't stop, no way, no how...

After that major "booboo", That was it! He was to be out ASAP!...
All they had to do was create a viable reason, (a sting) to play,
to legally boot him out of office... then a huge mess of "evil conniving" bubbled up out of Democracy's great cauldron, and grew into a political "bomb blast" against actor Ronald...
...So have his statue holding a double stingered hornet... and maybe a twin ended blade... and maybe an American flag strangling him...

The statue could be scratching his head, and looking at his feet...
a politician's boot about to kick his butt, right where he stands pondering his feet... while embracing his cold war against little nations, against little peoples, who have grown those medicinal herbals for thousands of years... for America to prevent those "tisk tisk nasty bad" Americans from importing thet thar illegil herbal stuff into America... Because too many Americans like that stuff too... and because America's christian oriented medical committee believes the stuff is bad for people, or just says it is, for whatever monetary and insanity reasons... yet the enforcement committees use it themselves in secret...

So they scrape and burn fields, and kill people all over the world to stop them from using those "bad people fun herbals"... to stop them from selling it to American importers... to keep those evil substances out of America... They only slow it, at the expense of bleeding all life on the planet of life...

There was even presidential talk about destroying all the world's cocoa plants, with strong aircraft sprayed defoliants, but someone informed him, "that's where our chocolate comes from"...
"Oh Sigh of Relief!"

"Crush crime, and drugs, and drug people at their source!", was his great motto... A real "Tiger" against people and scenes that he didn't agree with... No one ever told him that his drug war was really a great war against innocent people, and their families, and their lives, and against whole ancient cultures... and still is... he only ever saw numbers and words on paper, and well edited videos... while his DEA anticrime schemes made blood flow all 'round the world...

It's all up to you now... If you want to make the faces and statues depict as much honesty as possible, then bring in all the reality of your story, his story, into the equation... and chip it out of stone...
Or you can sell it, and build it, as a big colorful lie... by including only the pretty parts you like... being the same way the bible was assembled and created... Better you just dump a pile of rocks in a swamp... and make it a tourist attraction...

Isn't it about time Politics, Religion, Money, and Power, started showing a little bit of Honesty in its product and MO...?
as opposed to all that blinding stinging stinky violent smoke...
while politic's and religion's base squishes our quality of Life, into a simple format that they can easily assimilate, easily understand, easily math, easily control, easily maintain, and easily police... and easily make us pay for it all, by legally robbing one third, to half our incomes... and in some cases all of it... in their ever consuming and destroying our lives for money and sport, and cancerous commerce... Money is destroying Life.
Democracy has perfected its insidious creation, into being the perfect slavery system, by the parasite class, in which the peasant enslaved cultures don't even realize that they are embraced in a great evolved slavery system, and can't see that they are forced to work themselves to death, for the good of the government, while the government works for itself, not the people...
The ancient Romans would be proud and envious of our powerful super democratic slavery system over the blind numb mindless masses...

Democracy is a trap that anchors Life to a basic little antique box, that can't permit us to evolve anymore... because if we did, democracy would no longer be a viable functional useful item... and would have no other option but to extinct itself, in favor of mankind developing a reality governance system of quality of life, as opposed to the present stinky sewage mound of fancy talk and smoke and political bullshit, while businessmen's kids hold the reigns of governments, and drive it for daddy's business concerns...
Democracy is killing us for to maintain its insatiable appetite for more and more money, and more and more flowing blood, and more and more useless mindless power...
Democracy! Get the hell out or Lives!
or WakeUp! GrowUp! and WiseUp!
Quit Screwing with our Lives in your mindless lifeless stupidity money wasting, Life wasting themes and games!...

The great nation's national debt is seriously in the red...
There's no money to waste on carving people faces into mountains, and in building multimillion dollar granite statues...
The impending massive American continent earthquakes will only knock it all down just after it's completed... Try to calculate a few honest, reality priorities... If you really need to chip rock, then howzabout building something solid that the nation needs now, in this time of the impending nuclear ww3, that the whole world is prepping for... the game of the century... no matter what the cost...

I guess the question that kept on popping in my head as I read this old-time religion at BC - What the hell did Teddy Roosevelt do to warrant much recognition - apart from having a brass set he kept stepping on?

...the whole subject of tits. On Mt. Rushmore? Really, I'd pay to see that! (Besides, then it would be appropriate for Clinton to be up there...)

cosmicbrat:

I'm curious. What "eastern herbals" were you using while writing that post?

um..?... I had a coffee.. with some sugar in it..
um..?.. and about an hour ago, I sprinkled some black-pepper on my steak...
This morning I sprinkled ground cinnamon on rye bread toast...
The coffee was from South America.. so that's not "eastern"... but maybe the cinnamon and pepper was eastern..? though I'm not positive of the sources...

Your comment was simply PERSONAL ATTACKING" "BASHING".. better known as "FLAMING"...
You need to read, and dearadere to, this blog's guide for posting, or all you will cause and get is pain pain and more pain...

I find that non-thinking people who can't fathom something, generally poopoo it as being illicit drug ingestion related and sourced...
How is it that ingesting feelgood herbals creates extremely confusing output..?
Maybe it was this Dangerous Strong Coffee who wrote that Reagan post..?
I just had a wicked bubbly acidy glass of Pepsi.. that's what is writing this post... and it's my cigarette who is now posting it...
For you to post your post.. were you on western poopoo dear person..?

So.. How do you feel about spending 5-million taxpayer dollars to carve Reagan's face in mountain stone..?