There's nothing like democracy (around here)
Published May 25, 2004
Case 1:
Shouldn't college students seeking knowledge--especially knowledge that might challenge their own biases--be encouraged? Not so, it seems, according to the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign and the College Republicans of Kalamazoo College.
When seven sophomores at the school showed up at Wings Stadium in downtown Kalamazoo to see George W. Bush at a campaign rally on May 3 and presented the tickets they had obtained for the event, security officers would not allow them in. The problem, according to these students, was that College Republicans volunteering at the event fingered them as liberals who did not support Bush. And such citizens were not welcome at the rally.
"They told us," [one of the sophomores] says, "that we failed a background check, that we had been identified by volunteers as a potential threat, and that if we didn't leave we would be arrested."
Hufstader and the others insisted they simply wanted to hear Bush and demanded to see what list--if any--indicated that they had failed a background check. They argued their point until local police showed up and said they would be arrested unless they departed. [Banned in Kalamazoo]
Case 2:
College students are increasingly saying they're going to vote against Bush. College students are increasingly being told they're not allowed to vote. There may be no connection between the two.
Like any good American citizen, young Han wanted to cast his ballot in the presidential primaries. So in October, the sophomore at Hamilton College walked into the office of the county election board in Utica, New York, to register to vote. Han couldn't make it back to his home state of Washington to participate in its caucuses — they were being held in February, the same week Hamilton requires sophomores to declare a major — so he decided to vote in the state where he actually lives.
But at the election office, a county official told Han that only "permanent residents" may register to vote. College students, she informed the clean-cut twenty-year-old, must vote where their parents live. "This is just how we've always done it," county election commissioner Patricia DiSpirito told Rolling Stone. "A dorm is not a permanent residence — it just isn't."
In fact, DiSpirito is flat-out wrong.
Federal and state courts have clearly established that students have the right to vote where they go to school, even if they live in a dorm. But interviews with college students, civil-rights attorneys, political strategists and legal experts reveal that election officials all over the country are erecting illegal barriers to keep young voters from casting ballots. From New Hampshire to California, officials have designed complex questionnaires that prevent college students from registering, hired high-powered attorneys to keep them off the rolls, shut down polling places on campuses and even threatened to arrest and imprison young voters. Much as local registrars in the South once used poll taxes and literacy tests to deny the vote to black citizens, some county election officials now employ an intimidating mix of legal bullying and added paperwork to prevent civic-minded young people from casting ballots.
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- Published: May 25, 2004
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Well, you can also console yourself with the thought that none of us will have to care if martial law is declared between now and November (see Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack).
...or if one of three major companies that make the secret, no-paper trail electronic balloting machines pulls some hanky panky for Herr Bush. (How to Hack An Election)
Sad to say that I don't doubt that these bastards will resort to *anything, no matter how low or despicable.
Either way, I'm beginning to think it's Germany, 1933 -- and we're all Jews.
*ask valerie plame
Hal, you really shouldn't be masturbating to these ridiculous dystopian fantasies in public.
The first case is exactly NOTHING. So the Republicans had a rally and wouldn't let the Democrats in. That's called "freedom of assembly" in the First Amendment. If Mac Diva was hosting a rally for, say, Maxine Waters and didn't want ME there, that'd be totally cool.
That second one is all over the map, and I'm not believing there's anything to it at all. What you're saying there's some Republican conspiracy to keep college kids from voting? Please.
You jump from US county voting registrars being picky about residency issues to HITLER, NAZIS. Seriously, dude.
If you can't figure out how to register to vote, then you're too goddam stupid to have a say in life and death matters of the republic.
And partly, it is exactly concerns about how our civil liberties would fare after a domestic WMD attack that make me anxious to squish the evil Islamofascists NOW- over there if at all possible.
Barger:
Excuse me? Where exactly do I do any of what you claim I do?
Pay attention.
You may like arguing against your straw men, but I prefer sticking to reality.
Wait- I suppose I do need to back up about half a step: It was Shark who specifically invoked the Nazis, not you. My bad.
However, the rest of it is straight you, or the sources you cite approvingly.
Barger:
Right - it's me or someone else.
I don't know why you even bother.
"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth." ---Adolph Hitler
Sen. John Kerry, "who once held a commanding, double-digit advantage" over President Bush among young Americans, "now finds himself in a statistical dead heat with the president among voters aged 18-29," according to the latest IPSOS/NEWSWEEK/GENEXT poll.
"While Kerry currently leads Bush within the margin of error, 45 percent to 42 percent, back in February 56 percent of 18-29 year-olds said they supported the senator versus 42 percent who said they would vote for Bush."
From: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/04/26/kerry_losing_support_of_young_voters.html
Kinda defeats your argument that "College students are increasingly saying they're going to vote against Bush", doesn't it? ;-]
When you're a college student, you choose a "permanent address." If that permanent address is 10 states away, so sorry, too bad.
Maybe these nitwits could apply for an absentee ballot? Or is that too much to ask?
Hey, maybe is Bush was less authoritarian, he'd let just anyone attend his rallies. Democrat agitators, gun-toting mentally-deranged people, Islamic terrorists, whomever...
And he'd let just anyone vote, too. Illegal immigrants, dead people, 13 year olds, terrorists from Iran, whomever...
Hey, lots of Europeans come to the US for a few weeks/months. Since their "permanent address" is moot, why not let them vote? I mean, they have a temporary address at the Hilton.
Give these well-travelled Euros a vote, and we'll have Kerry in 2004! Screw people who've lived here their entire lives and actually follow the election rules.
Give 11 million illegal, illiterate, Spanish-speaking Mexicans the vote. Hey, they are within our borders. Why shouldn't they get a vote?
And the terrorists are here too. Why not let Abdul and Mohhammed have a say in our electoral process? Sure, their permanent address is HELL, but they currently reside in Florida, so hand these fuckers a ballot!
Forget it.
Not doing it today,
fighting the urge to respond
Succeeding remarkably well.
Sleep tight RJ
Bernard, unfortunately, RJ Elliot has posted explicit evidence that not only should college students be denied the vote, they should be rounded up and herded into mental institutions or 'reeducation' centers.
(feeling all warm and fuzzy, dancing round a fire and chanting: "Liberty and justice for almost all, take em out, we'll have a ball")
democracy is a beautifull thing isn't it?
Maybe it would be best to allow college students to vote in Seattle and only there. That's a sesspool of freethinkers anyway.
For those not already there, we could build one of those neat traintracks.
Shark: ... RJ Elliot has posted explicit evidence that not only should college students be denied the vote, they should be rounded up and herded into mental institutions or 'reeducation' centers.
The sad thing is that he has been doing that all along. He gives college students are really bad name. =(
As far as the post... why should anyone honestly be suprized?
Yes it's 5 days later but....
Maybe these nitwits could apply for an absentee ballot? Or is that too much to ask?
Doesn't always work. In 2000 my girlfriend wanted to vote in her home state of Florida while going to school in Boston. The state law said that the first time you vote you must show up in person. So that basically stops all college students from Florida that go to school (far away) from voting. I think they may have changed the law by now. But if you think about it, there were enough people at my university alone to make Gore the winner. It's a real issue and I'm glad Hal brought it up.





Geeez, that's really scary. And annoying. And disgusting. On the other hand, I won't have to worry about it, since I'm turning 18 a week after the election, >.<.