I love the stone roses, oasis on the other hand i don't know. Noel gallager can write a catchy tune i guess.

"Definitely Maybe" and "What's The Story Morning Glory" must be two of the best Albums in the last 25 years. Noel Gallagher can write far more than "just a catchy tune". Stone Roses? One song and I'm done with'em. Just my opinion.

The shelf life of the talentless imitators in Oasis is long over. I can't imagine these guys doing anything outside of suicide to recapture the public's attention. Radiohead, Coldplay and Let It Be...Naked, have all stolen these jokers thunder and attempting the "supergroup" thing will lump them in where they belong with the forgettable Velvet Revolver's of the music industry.

I do like those two albums, but Oasis offered nothing original to the music scene whatsoever. Stone Roses are highly influential, although they never attained the superstardom of oasis.

Please enlighten me on how influential the "Stone Roses" have been. I would like to know who you think they have influenced, where and how you see their influence in music today? Thank you.

The brit pop of the 90's was highly influenced by the stone roses. I think blur, which was one of the most popular bands in britain was initially influenced by the Stone Roses. Stone Roses had a shoegazer element in their music that combined with strong pop sensibilities that bands like the Verve have since utilized.
Im not an expert on british music, but i feel they at least offered a more original sound than say a band like oasis.

I'm afraid I can not see the influence of the Stone Roses on either Blur or The Verve. Oasis and Blur whether original or not have influenced the Brit pop scene far more than the Stone Roses ever have. The whole cool Britannia thing was an Oasis inspired concept. Plus, I find nothing original about the Stone Roses. I guess we disagree.

The Stone Roses' influence was simply to put guitar music back onto the UK scene. If you can remember the way things were going prior to their debut it was awful - musicians trying to be superstar celebrities, God only knows what bands were actually hoping to achieve other than fame, but along came TSR as a breath of fresh air. The things I mostly remember are:
1. They were just a bunch of lads. I can't remember another band who seemed more united since the punk of the late `70s - TSR seemed like a bunch of best friends who had stumbled into the music scene and they were happy to admit that they lived in sink estates. Similar to The Smiths, they knew who they were writing the songs for and the effect was like watching your friends up on stage.
2. Their attitude. Although other bands had said it before, no-one else had as much conviction to anounce "We're the best band around and if you don't think so it's only a matter of time until you do". Ian Brown was absolutely right. Also, it became "de rigeur" for every britpop band to insist that they were the best band in the world - where did they get that from?
3. The music. Without sounding like it was copying anything in particular TSR managed to sound like the perfect amalgam of The Beatles, The Byrds and The Stones (remember the NME's album review "Let the Byrds fly and the Stones roll"?). A catchy, decent tune was re-installed as the all-important factor in songs (though this trend has since faded).

I think overall their biggest influence has simply to put loveable guitar songs back into the charts rather than the over-produced crap that was making it out of the `80s.
Genuinely, one of the most important bands of the 1980s. Despite hardly appearing at all in the `90s, they were the common denominator in all of the UK's best music since their appearance (and then disappearance).

Oasis, on the other hand - I struggle to percieve any lasting effect of theirs other than that people still dislike Liam as much as they ever did. Mention TSR to anyone in the UK who was into music around 1990 and their eyes go misty as they look back with great fondness. Mention Oasis and they come back to the here-and-now with a bump.

I'm off to listen to TSR and the mighty Turns Into Stone right now. Heck, I might even play them both at the same time to see if I can get a bigger hit.

yea what that guy said.

Well, I am in the UK and into all types of music. My eyes do not go misty at the metion of Stone Roses and I am happy to hear Oasis any day of the week. I think we must speak for ourselves rather than for the masses.

Ian Brown and Liam Galligahar?

Now that is an interesting combo.

Sandra, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The Stone Roses are the major influence on Oasis for a start, and have been cited as influences by everyone from Coldplay to Miss Dynamite. Oasis are not bad, but they are an image band, not a musical one. Almost every one of their songs is a copy of something else, check out this from a plagiarism website:

Alive, The Smiths: Girl Afraid - The guitar solo is the same

Cigarettes & Alcohol, T- Rex: Get It On - The riff is the same

Cloudburst, The Stone Roses: Standing Here

Don´t Look Back In Anger, John Lennon: Imagine - The intro has the piano tune. In the end of the song there's a guitar doing the melody line for David Bowie's All The Young Dudes.

Fade Away, Wham: Freedom- Part of the melody is the same

Half The World Away, Burt Bacharach: This Guy´s In Love With You - Almost every chord is the same (though not in the same order)

Headshrinker, The Small Faces: Stay With Me - Noel thinks it sounds like a song by them

Hello, Gary Glitter: Hello, Hello I´m Back Again - Excerpt from the song

Hey Now, The Stone Roses: I Wanna Be Adored

Magic Pie, The Beatles: Cry Baby Cry

Round Are Way, Solomon Burke: Everybody Need Somebody To Love

Shakermaker, The Beatles: Flying - Noel has said that he was dissapointed that they got sued by Coke, not the Beatles
The New Seekers: I´d Like To Teach The World To Sing - The whole melody is taken from here

She´s Electric, You And Me: The theme tune from a kids Tv- show.
The Beatles: With A Little Help From My Friends - The vocal harmony on the end is the same.

Slide Away, Neil Young: Cortez The Killer

Some Might Say, The Small Faces: Ooh La La

Stand By Me, David Bowie: All The Young Dudes - The chorus taken from this song

Step Out, Bob Seger: Rosalie
Stevie Wonder: Uptight (Everything Is Alright) - The whole chorus is nicked. The thing is exactly the same, even the "Alright!" at the end of the line is repeated.
One of the members of Thin Lizzy is also credited.

Supersonic, The Smiths: How soon is soon? - claimed that the guitar chords is quite the same

The Swamp Song, Canned Heat: On The Road Again - Noel has said this

Underneath The Sky, Blondie: Call Me
The Kinks: ...Street

Whatever, The Beatles: Day In The Life
Monty Python: The Idiot Song
David Bowie: All The Young Dudes

Put your money where your mouth is - Vocal line is the same as The door's Roadhouse blues

Supersonic - The Solo is the same as the solo on "My sweet lord", from George Harrison (which, on it's time, was also sued by someone else alledging that it was a ripoff.)

Live Forever - the guitar solo is the same as "Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton.

Married With Children - the chords are the same as in Nirvana's "Lithium".

Up In The Sky - the melody is quite similar to "Rain" by the Beatles.

Morning Glory - same chords as "The One I Love" by R.E.M.

D'You Know What I Mean? - Oasis ripped off themselves by using the same chords as Wonderwall!

Whereas I cannot think of a single Stone Roses song that sounds like another one. If you consider Stone Roses to be a one-song band I assume you mean Fool's Gold which, like UNderworld's Born Slippy, was only ever meant to be a B-side but ended up as their most successful. Check out The Very Beszt of the Stone Roses and I think you will understand why they were such an important band in music history, particularly for Oasis.

Ian Brown should get his ass out of the archives and move on.
Stone Roses were a great band and It made me a happy lad at the time BUT Ian Brown should stop living it every day and write a song that doesn't sound like he's trying imitate himself all the time... and as for the video with Noel... WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP, WE CAN ALL WALK LIKE A MONKEY IF WE FANCY IT.

I totally agree, that the Roses have had an immense impact on the British music in the '90. However the influence is not to be seen or heard in the music of bands like Oasis, and Blur etc. The influence is rather, that those bands in particular wouldn't have emerged/been formed, if it wasn't for the Roses!! In other words; the bands I've mentioned , was formed because the Roses gave them the desire to be in a band a make proper music... There you have it!!
Bye the way: The early Oasis ('91-'93) sounded a whole lot like the Roses, they just changed their sound later on...

Funny 'cos I don't recall The Stone Roses ever calling themselves the best band in the world. Also, I seem to remember they were a very shy bunch of lads. Secondly, there's a problem with the 'best in the world' claims - they weren't.

I can't believe how overrated TSR debut album is, sometimes I think there's been a wire-crossing somewhere along the line and it somehow finds itself, mistakenly, around the top of every British album poll going.

Remarkable, not to say ridiculous for such an unoriginal, lyrically immature and formulaic record. And there were bands such as Jane's Addiction, The Pixies, The Cure etc. who rip The Stone Roses a new arsehole.

Jane's in particular are the band The Stone Roses weren't - and never could be. A stunning talent and they should get a lot of the credit the Roses and The Pixies recieve. Oasis are a poor man's Stone Roses by the way.

The last comment is basically a janes addiction fan saying they are better than any band in the world without actually saying hose words
1. the stone roses debut album is definately not overated as it is a album with great guitar riffs that stick in your head, quality lyrics that tell a story for those ignorant enough not to undertsand the message in made of stone ie. the queen burning to death in a car crash 'no earth just sky its so surreal' the car had toppled over and all you can see is the sky. 'final fligt can be delayed' we will all die one day.

2. the second album was a classic how can you compare it to the first one all members of the band where five years older with a lot of money completly different people not living in the shit part of town anymore. If you actually give it a chance it is a classic.

3. But the roses has so many great songs that were on albums like turns into stone an complete stone roses these two albums are where you will hear the true genius which is the stone roses especially complete ston roses.


I am a fan of oasis for saying the only bands better than them are the stone roses, beatles and the sex pistols because without thses bands there wouldnt be a oasis

cheers

Mate Jane's Addiction were light years ahead of The Roses. The only other band who might've been better than Jane's in the late 80's/early 90's were The Smashing Pumpkins (not quite as talented as Jane's [who was?] but more consistent).

TSR is extremely overrated and the lyrics are very simplistic and average. Still a very good record though, but it lacks the longevity of a truly great record.

'we went to see the stone roses, and it was that day we decided we wanted to be in a band' Noel Gallagher

by the way whoever mention about immature lyrics needs to go to school again, the lyrics are so deep that scientist cant even dig that far down

^ I'm assuming you don't listen to lyrics very often? I listen to proper, intelligent lyrics mate, Tool, Radiohead, Soundgarden etc.

The stone roses are one of the greatest British bands of all time. Hey Jefferson did you say that the Roses we a "shy bunch of lads"...are you taking the pist. John Squire maybe but ian, mani and reni we all nut cases..thats wat their appeal was. theyre ability to relate to the crowd and not give a crap wat peoples opinions were about them. Lyrically and musically they are far superior to oasis....ok....maybe oasis are a great band live but their music has a simplicity about it that just doesnt exist in "I wanna be adored", "elephant stone" or "I am the ressurection" for example...(one of the greatest guitar songs ever). intellegent lyrics?....sound garden?....dont think so mate. "chimes sing sunday morn"

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS ON ABOUT? are you forgetting that it was Oasis that brought giutar music back to the mainstream after years of electro-shite. the Roses are a great band, one of my favourites but they were only really influential to a few bands whereas oasis have influenced everyone who ever picked up a guitar in 1994 onwards. oh yeah, and to that plagarism stuff, a load of bollocks, most of those songs have tiny similarities if any at all.

antony, you are confused. There were plenty of great guitar bands around when Oasis appeared on the scene. They and The Stone Roses are two of the most boring bands ever and it is tragic that they are regarded as rock bands at all...

Yes, Chris, you are right. What about the La's ... from you neck of the woods. Bloody great band.

If the Gallaghers didn't get some of their ideas there, I'd be surprised.

Let's not forget The Smiths as well, and Johnny Marr, Mr Guitar.

What about bone crusher popsical? One of the best bands to come out of the scene. Ripped of the tune to play school though.

oasis=boring chord strumming with wishy washy lyrics. when brit pop started to die out around 1999 oasis came out with standing on the shoulers of giants they wre trying to be the stone roses with deep lyrics and a more rythmic sound they even started wearing flares in the who feels love video. i find it hard to understand how anyone over the age of 19 could think oasis were actually good