"Are you separatists? Listen carefully: Do you hear that? It's the sound of nobody giving a sheeet!"

sorry, it may be a sensitive issue but that made me laugh out loud.

(uh oh, maybe i'm a racist!)

The biggest problem with the bit is that it wasn't funny, and was profoundly ignorant of Quebecois, who do a superior job of making fun of themselves with the likes of Elvis Gratton and Les Bougons.

Also Triumph is stolen from Ed the Sock, with the difference that Ed is occasionally funny. In Quebec, the reaction was "what do you expect from people from the States?"

It's comments like this from French-speaking Canadians that annoy even the non-French Canadian people: In Quebec, the reaction was "what do you expect from people from the States?"

My sister married a nice Canadian gentleman and they live north of us in Langley. I have no problem with Canada and the Canadian people in general, but I do have a problem with the arrogant French-Canadians in Montreal and Quebec when they say stuff like this.

I'm sure there are some non asshole people in Montreal and Quebec, but people like this should just take a long walk off a short pier. They need a serious history lesson.

"The States" have done a lot for Canada over the years and if the chips were down "The States" would have their backs in a heartbeat. France (which I realize is not Canada) through history has not been the strongest from a military support standpoint.

Without "The States" help it might be interesting to know what would have happened to France in World War II.

I've been in Quebec, both Montreal and Quebec City, and the French thing seems kind of creepy, with all the petty regs about size of English signs and stuff. Even France isn't that bad, from my experience there also.

I read in the Globe and Mail years ago that many Jews were leaving the province because the French First stuff had obvious historical echoes.

I'd love to move to Canada to get away from Bush, but I don't think I'd go to Quebec. Although Montreal is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to.

By the way, Carruthers, what's going on with the Liberals and that scandal? Don't tell me that new Conservative Party is going to come to power. That would be too much to bear.

i've never been to Quebec City.

i've been to Jackman, Maine though.

Wow, ignorant, insular and touchy. Yes, a history lesson, so tell me, all about WWII, especially the role of the States during '39 and '40. Yes, France had a weak military, perhaps something to do with the destruction of an entire generation of young men 20 years earlier.

And perhaps a lesson on the forced assimilation of Acadians in Louisiana and Quebecois in New England? With a side-bar on the influence of French in the work of Jack Kerouac?

But of course, you're on the left coast and are too busy trying to tell your Vancouvers apart.

I'm sure there are some non asshole people in Montreal and Quebec, but people like this should just take a long walk off a short pier. They need a serious history lesson.

Jim, don't stop!!! MORE HISTORY! MORE HISTORY!

Hot damn, somebody more brutal than moi!?

And funny to boot!!?

~ahhhh~ I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy this.


PS: You knew there was trouble brewing with: "...I have no problem with Canada and the Canadian people in general, but..."


"Fuck with us, and we'll take back Niagra"---TDavid

How might the American War of Independence turned out without French intervention?

As for Louisiana, isn't that partially the French's fault also (in that Napoleon did after all, sell the land to the US). In that case, you can either assimilate to become part of the country, or leave.

Either way, what I notice here is, the Americans are thinking the French Canadians (French) are snotty and arrogant, and the French Canadians (French) are thinking the Americans are snotty and arrogant.

Just what America needs when 90% of the world hates us: Triumph the Insult Dog as Ambassador at Large.

NEXT: Canadians signing up at flight schools in Florida.

PS: Conan's nightly trainwreck is ALMOST as bad as Dennis Miller's.

Almost.

Nothing could be that bad.

"But Shark, have you seen Jay Leno?"

Oh... yeah... nevermind.

As for Louisiana, isn't that partially the French's fault also (in that Napoleon did after all, sell the land to the US). In that case, you can either assimilate to become part of the country, or leave

Oops! You are displaying your ignorance of history with that comment.

The French Acadians were located in Nova Scotia. After the French were defeated on 'the plains of Abraham', Montreal fell to the British signaling the end of the French & Indian War.

For 100 years, French Acadians had lived in Nova Scotia, a very strategic location during the Age of Sail. Because of its strategic importance, the British decided to move all French Acadians by force to Louisiana. This forced relocation resulted in the tragic deaths of thousands of men, women and children. The Acadians were not compensated for the loss of property.

This is even more tragic considering the Acadians were a fairly independant people who would have no problem living under British rule.

My mistake Mac. Thanks for the clarification.

Anyway, every nation has done something wrong and something good. It's just ironic that the nationalities involved in this debate both think of each other as the one that is arrogant and snotty.

Monsieur Carruthers,Lighten up,Sil Vous
Plait!As far as I know,'twas not us,the
Americans,but rather the British,that
drove the Acadians from their new found
homes in New Brunswick & Nova Scotia in
the mid 1700's.Sept 5 1755 to be exact
was when the Brits signed the expulsion order at Grand Pre'. We fought against
the British,remember? At least accept
your countries part of the complicity in
regards to flight & plight of the Cajuns
History.That said,take Louisiana back if
you want it.But please Leave Mr.Clifton Chenier,all recipes for Alligator Gumbo,
Crawfish Etoufee,the Tabasco factory at New Iberia and the entire city of Breaux
Bridge(home of the LA. Zydeco Fest) out of the deal Okey Dokey? I'm gonna go re-read my copy of "Evangaline".......

Let's not forget that it was CONSERVATIVES who appeased Hitler. The left, in Britain, France, and here, wanted to intervene. They were condemned as "pre-mature anti-fascists" and hounded.

The left saved American from fascism.

Well, 'murrican self-regard really is like bad breath. Point out they have it, and you're the asshole.

I wasn't referring to the deportation from l"Acadie, but to the 20th century forced assimilation of French (and Spanish) speakers in the States. In Louisiana, for most of the past century, French was banned in schools and government.

Much of the language laws in Quebec come from their observation of what happened to francophones who went to work in the mill towns of New England from the 30s, almost all of whom lost their language and culture (Jack Kerouac's family was one of those). Yes, the laws annoy me (only New Brunswick is officially bilingual), but the reality is 6 million francophones surrounded by a monolithic "speak 'murrican". I think a more flexible approach would work better given the changing face of the urban population.

Here in Toronto, half of the population was born outside of Canada (me included). I recently got a flier from my city councillor and it was printed in English, Portuguese and Mandarin.

However, USAian teevee would be lost if they had to make with the funny outside of crude stereotypes.

JC,What is wrong with having one single
language? If only for general education
purposes this makes good sense to me.Or
do you suppose that we should try to
educate MILLIONS of people under several
languages??? Seeing as to how this is an
"English" speaking country this does not
make any sense.This would only serve to
cause dissension rather than striving on
towards a common goal.One Nation Under A
Groove and all that,brutha man.

As you are from "Canaduh" Mr. J.C.,how
can you in all honesty profess to know
what is and what is not good for all the
"Murricans" as you put it anyway??? The
assimilation of a common language is for
the large part a noble quest.I have many
friends here who speak many languages:
German,Spanish,Farsi,etc.What we have in
common though is we all speak English at
least to some degree LOL.What we may
speak amongst our families at home is of
no signifigance.No one here in the USA
seems to be wanting to rob anyone of any
of their ethnic or cultural backgrounds
as you seem to think.We celebrate ethnic
diversity here,not use it as a point of
contention to start separatist movements
(well,there is a group of folks here who
would like to see Texas secede but...).
With all that aside,you must be looking
forward to another stellar season from
those Blue Jays,eh?

"...there is a group of folks here who
would like to see Texas secede but..."

What? We're part of the Union now?



"Victory or Death"---Shark Travis

Shark,STOP!!! you're killing me! Anyone
who would attack Colorado is OKAY in my
book though.The eyes of Tejas are upon you...

I wouldn't say most of us in Montreal are arrogant assholes ...
I think the "what do you expect from people from the States?" comment was more directed at alot of americans lack of knowledge considering the tensions between Quebec-Canada.

Alot of Franco-Quebec nationalists feel like their culture is under constant attack. Usually they take this out on us Quebec anglos by making our english signs illegible.

I don't think that the majority of Americans,would
either J. I'll be honest and profess my ignorance
of Franco-Canadian politics in regards to Quebec.
I only get a wee bit peeved when someone seems to
claim knowledge of a situation they could not and
would not understand unless they were in those
self same shoes.

Reading these posts reminds of why I moved out of Toronto and away from Quebec (pronounced Kweeeebek).

Vive le Québec libre!

This may be the stupidest comment string I've ever read. It's time to stop.

Viva le Cuba Libre,too!!!

If this is the stupidest, then dude, you've been blogging with Mensa, cause this thread is highbrow compared to many of its brethren.

My, my Jim, are we a bit uptight today? I wasn't condemning you personally with my comments, but it seems you sure took it personally. Sorry! My brother in law who is a born and bred Canadian talks much worse about Montreal and Quebec than a foreigner like I could. I was simply sharing that I don't like hearing them constantly disrespect us down here. The same is true for us down here disrespecting them, so it does work both ways.

I guess I'll just skip past your "arrogant dickhead" remark and simply suggest checking your history book a bit closer. Perhaps this date might mean something historically: June 6, 1944

Shark - Ha ha, I never said what you quoted, so get your facts straight before putting my name next to something in quotes. Brilliant, albeit a bit trollish. Where is your blog, anyway? You are missing on some of your best material! LOL

Correction:

TDavid never said, "...fuck with us and we'll take back Niagra."

(BTW: "Niagra" is a banned word because of its racist connotations.)


BTW: entry#23 made me laugh out loud.

Thanks Shark :)

Jim - I do regret that in my initial comments I didn't state that I thought what Conan did was in poor taste and I can see why folks were offended. You don't invite him into your family room and then let him take a shit on your coffee table (figuratively or literally).

If it was some well known loose cannon comedian, known for rough commentary and the venue was say a nightclub or strip bar, well then that material might have had a chance, but I didn't think it was appropriate in the mainstream venue chosen and am glad that Conan did the right thing and apologized and admitted he messed up.

I doubt even if some four-letter bombs were added and a more adult venue had been used if that material would have been even worthy of cracking a smile.

Look, everybody knows that everything has gone wrong since Canada came along.

The US military protects the rest of the free world, giving the Canadian military the privilege of getting drunk and masturbating with porn all day- and time to rest up in between by typing up crappy notes on the net bitching about Americans.

Or to put it differently, how DUMB do you think you look getting mad at Triumph the Insult Comic Dog?

Canuck-ie, please!

how DUMB do you think you look getting mad at Triumph the Insult Comic Dog

not half as dumb as we look getting all crazy about ms. jackson's super-boobie.

Saleski- You will regret underestimating the importance of Janet Jackson's Titty once IT BECOMES PRESIDENT.

Ah hum... Mr. Barger I don't believe the Canuks were masterbating in Afganistan when that "DUMB"-ass bombed them into the next world with so-called friendly fire!

Fact: the best sharp-shooters bar none were the Canuks. Just ask the Yanks.

Show a little respect huh?

Easy Brother Bloke, like Triumph, "I Keed. I joke with you."

"giving the Canadian military the privilege of getting drunk and masturbating with porn all day"
We don't need to be in the military to do that, It's a national past-time.

Canadians are cool, if a bit touchy. And they have politicians who act like politicians and grandstand: what a shock.

AL: "Or to put it differently, how DUMB do you think you look getting mad at Triumph the Insult Comic Dog?"


Hey, I get mad at puppets all the time:

Fer instance, I can't stand our current President.



~bada-bing!

Its OK Al, I'm kinda kiddin too. Yes, I am reminded of a "sock puppet" joke that was prevalent around BC. Now who was it that started that? Let me think, hmmmm.

It wasn't a "racist" thing that conan's show did towards the french canadians...how can that be? What race are the french? Are they not white??? You can say it was a prejudice thing not racist.

The term Race meens just that. Asian, African American, Latino etc. Canada and France are nationalities not fucking races.

Further Conan shouldn't have to apologize for making a statement he obviously beleived to be true. Because it is. All Canada is, is feces from where the USA took a big shit. I propose that the US sends aid to Canada to buy Douches and some ARRID xtra dry antiperspiriant. Canada needs to trade places with Poland when it comes to stupid jokes.

Actually Canada is a much cleaned up version than your shit hole of a country. Americans literally DISGUST me. You just have to watch an episode of jerry springer and see what a typical american looks like. You guys have NO class, and it is a fact that you guys are the FATTEST nation on earth. Ewwww.... I wouldn't be surprised if you guys have an obese president in the future.

"how DUMB do you think you look getting mad at Triumph the Insult Comic Dog"

obviously far away from looking as dumb as you do laughing at him

and what is the thing?? we get insulted in the worst way, the show being payed by OUR taxes, get no apologies from the governement, half-sinceres ones from conan, you heard that we were defending ourselves saying this doesnt surprise us from americans and we are the bad guys in the story. GREAT

so we're all saying that canada is un-american right?

Rog: "The term Race meens just that. Asian, African American, Latino etc. Canada and France are nationalities not fucking races."

And how. That's exactly what I've been saying all along (not in this thread, but elsewhere.)

hah man americans and canadians can bang eachothers wives for all i care, i have a bunch of canadian friends and most of them are just like me, they never say shit about the US besides a few comments about bush(in this case id back them up 100% :D) , but most of them DONT like quebecians(sp?) i dont really know why or care why, but ive never heard besides on the internet someone from the US talking trash about quebecians, so whats the problem? just a bunch of gimps on the internet talking shit because they read that french smell bad or that americans bleed fat. whatever doods :)

Those french-canadians should stop wining about their culture being under attack, I'm dutch myself and overhere in Europe the French acted likewise, in regions in France where dutch, german, breton or other languages were spoken, it was illegal to speak those at schools and universities. It's not just americans who dislike the french, NOBODY likes them! I quote a dutch minister:"France is a beautiful country, a shame though that it has got french people"
The french should realize their language isn't global anymore and start learning english, like we all do

I'm like 2 years late but oh well...

You people are ridiculous. The biggest problem with Conan's Triumph sketch in Québec City is not that it's not funny; it's that it's not representative! All you see are fat guys, dorks, drag queens and old farts - none of which speak English! Furthermore, it is true that French Canadians have no loyalty or similarity whatsoever with France. To emphasize this, I remind you that France literally abandoned Québec during the 3rd French-English war in Québec City. Finally, the struggle for seperation - as ridiculous as it is in an age of Globalization - is not about racism. It's about cultural assimilation and the roles of the federal and provincial governments. French Canadians see the rest of Canada as holding them back by limiting their autonomy. Thus, telling a Quebecer to ''speak the language like everyone else'' is a grave insult. Nevertheless, I consider French Canadians who don't learn English to be worthless, since the international language is English and we can't function without understanding it.