Blogcritics: Comments on Grammy Outrage Prediction

Comment by David Yeagley

Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:06:45 EDT

I released by first recording recently. Opus One Recording. It is American classical contemporary. It is a tone poem for American Indian flute and the Polish National Radio Symphony. To be fair, in the music business, I must allow everyone to critique the "authenticity" of the work, and invite racial, ethnic, cultural, and personal criticism! I'll send a copy of the CD to Blogscritics and see what happens. There's a NAMMY award category these days...(for "Native" Americans. I think that means Indian.)

Comment by Mac Diva

Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:00:33 EST

Just saying high, sweetie. Tell your creator that, when creating future sock puppets, he should change the email servers and IP addresses. It is obvious, otherwise.

Comment by sista

Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:47:02 EST

MD are you talking to me? Are you calling me "browngirl"? You really are a sick racist.

Comment by Mac Diva

Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:14:52 EST

How is it going, 'Browngirl'?

Comment by sista

Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:44:58 EST

What? MD all alone with her computer on Valentines Day? No sweety to cuddle up to? Ever wonder why? Just look in the mirror baby.

Comment by Mac Diva

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:26:00 EST

Well, they keep coming here from over at Yeagley's site, Vic. Maybe it is the agnostic missionary in me, but I feel a need to say that what they claim doesn't make sense. Indians not people of color? The civil rights movement not including rights for Indians? Indians being solemn all the time? I can't ignore ignorance like that.

Comment by Ms. Tek

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:01:15 EST

I didn't have any cheese for dinner. That is okay because I did have my cheese earlier. It was American cheese.

Comment by Mac Diva

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:33:02 EST

You're getting it, Duane. All three of my groups of ancestors (Indian, African and white) were "loud, boisterous, intrusive," etc., at times, thank you. The sad asses trying to make an issue of this are taking normal human behavior and trying to turn it into something reprehensible because 'the blacks' did it. You would think whites and Indians never party, for chrissakes. Latest Yeagley posters, the civil rights movement was more than Martin Luther King, Jr. It was the impetus for the civil rights legislation that made it possible for people of color (anyone who thinks Indians are not people of color is being ludicrous) free to participate in the larger society. That made public accommodations, employment, educational facilities and even marriage outside of one's 'race' open to everyone. Nor is it true that any group of 'colored' Americans was ignored. If one looks at the amicus curiae briefs for the civil rights cases, they are there, too, because they were suffering from segregation and discrimination just as much as African-Americans. Often lawyers and other leaders from different minority groups worked together. Did the movement and laws solve all the problems? Of course not. The Indian racists I've known have usually been complete losers like Yeagley. They were looking for scapegoats, a way to ignore their own problems. And, ultimately, they always have failed. 'In the bottle' was often where they ended up. I don't know if Yeagley is there, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is.

Comment by duane

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:36:53 EST

I was gravely offended by the Monty Python Spam sketch, which depicted Vikings, my ancestors, as loud, boisterous, intrusive, hedonistic, drunken...oh, wait...I guess that's true...uh...nevermind.

Comment by Ms. Tek

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:41:14 EST

So, are little kids who play cowboy and indian offensive?

Comment by Sam

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:25:21 EST

as a Native American as well i was offended by their performance. someone said only the headress was offensive, but if you ask any Native American the whole performance was degrading. This is 2004 you would think stereotyping to this level would not be around. I only say this because little kids that saw that get the assumption that Native Americans still live in Teepees going around chanting Hey Ya.

Comment by Sam

Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:23:39 EST

Comment by Eric Olsen

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:14:29 EST

omelette du fromage

Comment by BB

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:11:24 EST

Macho, macho man... All we are saying... is give peace a chance!!! All you need is LOVE (rolling percussive instruments)

Comment by bhw

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:34:11 EST

The Shark is snarky!

Comment by Shark

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 09:08:22 EST

BTW: Since this folder has been so quiet lately, I've invited some radical anarchist representatives from the following organizations: The Straight Cowboys Club Christian Cops for Christ NY City Ironworkers Union Biker Image Consultants Assoc. Veterans of Foreign Wars Russell Means, American Indian Movement I'm opening up the topic with the question: THE VILLAGE PEOPLE: Legitimate contribution to education and cultural diversity? Or a bunch of deviants appropriating degrading stereotypical symbols of oppressed people? to join us here for a disc

Comment by Shark

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:56:28 EST

Ms Tek, Ever had Velveeta with boiled dog? Mmmmm.... yummy.

Comment by Ms. Tek

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:50:17 EST

Does anyone enjoy eating cheese in the morning? I am sure that thousands, if not hundreds of thousands eat cheesy omelets, breakfast sandwiches, etc, EACH AND EVERY MORNING. Cheese has just wormed it way into being a very important part of the diet! Next time you are in the mood for an omelet try a spinach, feta cheese, and soy sausage omelet! It's mmm, mmm. good!

Comment by Ga-ne-sha

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:02:48 EST

"The average Indian is just as appreciative of the civil rights movement as any other 'colored' person. He or she knows that but for the bravery of African-American leaders, the rights now taken for granted would not exist." Mac Diva This is such a strange statement it should exclude you from further comment on anything: 1] You claim to know what the "average Indian" thinks. You do not know what an average Indian is. You just made this up [because it makes you feel good.] 2] The civil rights movement did nothing for Indians on reservations. So far as I know, Indians do not think the civil rights movement moved them at all, much less into a grand state that they now take for granted. The condition of reservations speaks for itself. 3] Least of all did the civil rights movement abolish the BIA, the chronic source of the Federal Gov't's treaty violations. 4] MLK was brave and a hero, but he in no way considered Indians as in severe need of liberation to a treatment of equality under the law. He ignored Indians, not purposefully, but because he had enough on his hands. You seem to think MLK somehow saved Indians and that they should thank him for it. [I thank MLK for being himself.] This idea that Indians should be beholden to Blacks is as example of what Yeagley is talking about. Comprende? 5] I am not aware that Indians view themselves as "colored". Nor should they want to, IMHO. Others may want to in order to make themselves feel good: thus they still seem to want to feel superior to Indians in being able to coapt them as "colored" when they are not colored, and Blacks know this. 6] As a point of order, black is not a color. It is the absence of light. White contains all colors. Thus Whites are the most colored. 7] What you should really be worried about is your acceptance of your designation as an "African American". Think about it: the term implies you are not really an American like the rest of us. It implies that maybe you should go back to Africa, which no one in their right mind should want to do. This contradictory dream or demand will never be fulfilled. Thus,it says your roots are in Africa and you will never be at peace until you go there, which you will never do. You are in limbo by means of this term. The term demands you recall a history which did not happen personally to you, and that you should look at your self as a victim, or permanently handicapped by an event which occurred at least 7 generations ago [a generation being a 20 year interval.] The strangest thing about the term is that you have not been allowed to choose it. You can call yourself that, but why should everyone else assume that any particular Black wants to be named thus? Aren't individual Blacks allowed to make up their own minds? No. So have Democrats/Liberals furthered your freedom or have they tried to keep you enslaved psychologically and materially by creating a victimhood mentality and reality requiring an entitlement, which you then insure with your vote? Doing battle with Indians, or trying to control them in the same way Liberals control you is a big mistake.

Comment by Mac Diva

Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:17:10 EST

ROFL! Brother Elk, eh? Sounds like another big chief wannabe to this Indian. I would love to know what his name was before the change to 'Brother Elk'. Jones? Smith? Brown? That story belongs on E Online. Now, excuse me while I pray to my sacred feather.

Comment by Joe

Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:25:55 EST

Good call, Chris!

Comment by BB

Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:26:17 EST

Unbelievable. I do not understand why some people see everything through a colored lens. My family originates from the Dakotas. My family is of a mixed race and the one thing that I teach my kids is to be color blind. When I come across people that see everything as black, red, white, yellow, green , purple or polka dot I frankly don't get it. It is a simplistic, vile view of the world and surely the human species is much more than that. Betty Ann I do not judge you by your color or race, nor do I dance to the tune of MD or anybody else at BC. I speak and think for myself. I agree that some of the attacks on you were out of line. Nevertheless you must understand it is a topic that brings out the worst in people and those that live by the sword die by the sword. Judge not lest you be judged. They are words to live by. Please learn a little tolerance and you will receive accordingly.

Comment by Shark

Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:11:27 EST

Hey, I tried. seeya.

Comment by andy

Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:42:25 EST

hmm. I just thought they were going for a Peter Pan thing. I thought it was H.O. double T.

Comment by Phillip Winn

Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:35:01 EST

Here's an answer, Ms Gross: Yes, I am (part) American Indian. (#21) However, the idea that I must be of a certain race in order to speak my mind is appalling, and reveals much about you. You have now threatened this board with destructive behavior (#23), something I don't appreciate at all. Your statements are not welcome here. We manage to be contentious enough discussing issues of race without the vile malignant stain of your words polluting these boards. Please crawl back under your rock. Thank you. P.S. Don't bother answering all of the questions you've been asked. You clearly don't intend to anyway, but the offer is rescinded.