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What's up with Christina Aguilera?

Written by Media Whore
Published November 24, 2003

She's feuding with Pink and Kelly Osbourne, and dissing Britney Spears and Madonna.

Christina vs. Pink

"When has Pink not been copying me? In her fashion and so on, it's always like 'Gosh, I just wore that last week.'" This was one of Christina's latest comments regarding Pink.

Pink was offered to co-host the MTV Europe VMA's, but Pink declined to co-host last week's MTV Europe awards with her fellow Lady Marmalade alumna because Aguilera "would take the fun out of it ... It's surprising they're having someone like that in charge."

Pink says I've never liked her, but there's no feud. Pink refused to let Christina introduce her at MTV Europe Awards, saying she wouldn't perform if Christina did. The problem was solved by having the shows announcer introduce Pink. The two also recently banned each other from Parties they were throwing.

Christina vs. Kelly Osbourne

Kelly's comment: "She is one of the most disgusting human beings in the entire world," and "I've seen drag queens who look better."

Christina's comment: "Personally I think she has a crush on me, because she seems so obsessed with talking about me."

Christina vs. Britney Spears and Madonna

She snipes that the pair engaged in their MTV awards lip lock because their careers have run out of gas. "These people aren't artists, they're just performers - fake and superficial, like the entire event," charges Aguilera.

Ah, didn't Christina kiss Madonna also? I guess her kiss was for purely artistic purposes. Maybe someone's a little upset because someone else's kiss got a little more publicity.

So why is Christina doing all the public feuding and bashing of her peers. Let's call it poor judgment (and youth); her own, and her management's. Yes publicity is a good thing, but not when it gets to be negative all the time. She's going to start pissing of the fans of Britney, Pink, and Madonna who may have thought about possibly buy an Xtina CD.

I know about how Christina's now supposed to be her own woman now. Her "Stripped" CD represents where she is at now in her life. She's stripped away everything superficial, blah, blah, blah. While the feuding may play well in the hip hop community, a little pop princess like Christina, ends up looking like a jealous step-sister.

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Published: November 24, 2003
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#1 — November 24, 2003 @ 21:37PM — Eric Olsen

Exactly MW, exactly. Christina would be great if she 1) didn't suck, 2)wasn't a skanky grim little guttersnipe, 3) could play well with others.

#2 — November 25, 2003 @ 06:15AM — Sandra Smallson

I think this topic has already been discussed and when the Artic;e is read in context you will see that Xtina is not dissing Madonna at all and is not really dissing Britney either. If anything she comes off more like she has mental issues with anything regarding Britney. The intervewer even notes that her eyes become shifty when she talks about Britney. I posted the Article on one of the threads discussing Xtina's comments in Blender Mag..read it for yourself. I suppose it makes for a more sensational story if the Press add enough times in enough short clips that she was dissing Madonna as well but thats not the truth. The press spent a lot of time saying Pink was dissing Madonna even when the gal took every opportunity possible to say how much she respected and adored the woman..come the Regis and kelly show, Pink turned to Jelly when she eventually met Madonna..though she regained her bravado after M left the building:) But, it was sweet and funny and even sweeter to see M try to put the poor gal at ease by telling her they had friends in common just as Pink kept giggling like a school girl with a crush on a highschl football player.

With regards to the non entity that is Kelly Osbourne..she started this palava. She dissed Xtina and Brit during several episodes of the Osbournes and when Xtina approached her while they were at a party, she became mute like all cowards doo when finally confronted..still..she carries off bad mouthing Xtina..I have no interest in Kelly Osbourne who should be incarcerated for her butchering of "Papa dont Preach".

I am still confused abt the Pink and xtina thing..I think they were friends and maybe had a falling out, but the press have exaggerated some of it..Like saying Pink did not want Xtina mentioning her name during the EMAs..but Xtina did introduce Pink when Pink came to give an award and even after Pink's performance, Xtina described the act as "hot"..so, they may no longer be friends but it is being sensationalised by the rag papers because the showbiz columnists have families to feed.

#3 — November 25, 2003 @ 07:58AM — Eric Olsen

All of that is fine, but the main point holds that Christina has had more than her share of incidents regarding her fellow female performers, her peers as it were, and this would appear to reveal some deeper issues.

#4 — November 25, 2003 @ 12:42PM — sallie

From the beginning Christina was upset that Britney had beat her in getting her album out first and grabbed the media attention without ever letting go, and she should have been. Christina always spoke her mind and never tried to be something she's not as did Britney Spears. Christina was the only one who talked back to Eminem when the other pop stars he insulted just took it from him. Maybe she would be better off going more in a hip hop direction. Her brazen personality seems more suited for it.

#5 — November 26, 2003 @ 14:32PM — catherine

hey guys-im cat-14 from northern ireland-i just wosh youd give it over and leave christina aguilera alone-i mean-im sure theres people that you dont like-and just because shes a famous musician means she cant like r dislike someone-i mean gro up and stop being jealous bitches-you know-ebery1 has down days-and her job is very very hard-and she could be having a lot of personal problems right now-and you should respect that-instead of beign big kids-woteva age u rbecause she has noone really to talk too probably becasue shes on tour and finds it stressful-i dont know -and so wot if britneys kiss got mor publicity-thats wot britney wanted-all the attention-thats y she made a big scene-and if xtina and pink r having problems between each other-remember most fing the media say is hype-so dotn talk untill u truely know-and she wouldent be a popstar if she wearnt meant too! and no i dotn fink shell ever go away-so get fukin used to it!! shes a veyr talented person-and is not darn flippen ugly=for flip my last boyfriend thought she was the hottest fing-and went till her concert-and loads of people luv her-just cause you dont-then keep ur darn big hole in da middle fo ur face shut-and stopp being jealous assholes!!oh and yeh-if youve got anything to say bac to me-im happy to fight bac-for me fav person-so me email addy is-kittycatno9@hotmail.com

#6 — November 26, 2003 @ 14:49PM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

Um, well... oh forget it.

#7 — November 26, 2003 @ 15:03PM — duane

Catherine, I fink Ill just say one fing, although Craig kinda beet me 2 it --- and that is, good grief. Thank u bery moch.

#8 — November 26, 2003 @ 16:31PM — Eric Olsen

James Joyce would be proud

#9 — November 26, 2003 @ 18:00PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

Or not.

#10 — November 26, 2003 @ 19:27PM — Sandra Smallson

Oh dear! Rolling on the floor F* laughing my ass out. Blogcritics gets better and better. I have not laughed so much since I last browsed this site. That would be this morning:) I am beside myself with glee. Thank you Catherine. Thank you everybody else who contributed to this thread after Cat. LOL.

#11 — November 26, 2003 @ 21:13PM — Eric Olsen

we aim to please

#12 — December 6, 2003 @ 04:01AM — daisy

It is clear that Christina is not creating a buzz because of a kiss. If anything, the media made Brit and Madonna out to be propaganda seeking fools, a situation that it seemed Christina may have been given a reprieve from. the girl is merely sharing an opinion that there are alot of packaged "artists" out there...people with performance talent but not voice talent. She's absolutely right. These people entertian us for a while then disappear into the world of has-beens. The media takes great pains to twist what someone has said to sell their product. It would be wise of Miss Aguilera to think about how she is phrasing things to curb this deception in the future. There is nothing wronge with her comments though. Is she Jealous? Doubt it. I imagine that between rehearsals, shows, projects, and media events she has no time to worry about something so petty. She gets as much recognition (and slander) as any of her peers. The good news is that by the media turning Xtina's life into a soap opera, they have her in the spotlight...free publicity is always good. This talented girl will be around for a long time just like the Whitney Houston's and Mariah Carey's of the universe. Talent = longevity.

#13 — December 18, 2003 @ 15:53PM — Korey [URL]

I love Xtina, but personally, I don't believe any of the smack that goes on. I've heard that Pink and Xtina don't really like each other, but Pink even said on MuchMoreMusic's TV Moments that "The girl has vocals". But I don't think it went that drastic. As for Kelly Osbourne, yeah ok whatever. Kelly is just an insecure little girl with problems. Hey, if I had a dad like Ozzy, I would be, too. She's also jealous because her singing career..well...let's just say...it bombed. She's just jealous that her voice sounds like a broken record, and that she has no talent. And the whole thing with a rivalry between her and Britney Spears is fake. And Xtina loves Madonna. The thing about "they're just performers..fake and superficial...." I don't think she meant Madonna and Britney. I think she's just mad because of the way they aired the kiss. Right after Madonna and Brit did it, they zoomed in on Justin. And I don't know about you, but I happened to see only pictures of Madonna and Britney kissing, not very much of Madonna and Xtina, so I'm sure this would upset her. Britney wasn't THE only one who locked lips with Madonna. Xtina should get the credit, too. I just think half of this is rumors created by people who want attention. I really pay no attention to it. It's all lies. Besides, I think EVERYONE should listen to "Stripped". It's an amazing album of truth and beauty. Well, if anyone wants to comment on this, they can e-mail me.


See ya later

#14 — December 18, 2003 @ 16:33PM — Sandra Smallson

You are right Korey. I posted the real article on another topic. I forget where. Xtina did not mean Madonna because she said she and Madonna sang live and Madonna was not even in teh context of that statement. Even Britney, was not slammed like the press claim, if the article is read in context. She referred to Beyonce in the same way because neither Brit nor Beyonce sang live. though, how that is Xtina's business, remains a mystery.

However, Xtina is known to have a problem with Britney, so it leads me to think she is jealous of something. She has great vocals but what has that got to do with anything?! Xtina is just as packaged as Britney. Great vocals does not mean you are not packaged. Whitney and Mariah were packaged. Whitney by Clive Davis who wanted her to be the wholesome christian gal with the angelic voice and dont forget she came in the 80s alongside wildcats like Madonna, Cyndi lauper, Blondie were still going strong, Cher was still going strong. Whitney was the alternative for middle America. We all know that she was not that person even back then, but thats who she had to be. Mariah, has clearly admitted that she was not the girl packaged by Tommy Mottolla..so your point is lost on me, Daisy.

What Xtina said left a lot of room for it to be obvious she was jealous she did not get the same coverage Britters got about the kiss. She even complained several times on different channels and in different magazines. She also knows the only way to get at Britney is to talk about packaged artist..its laughable because she is just as packaged. She's now branched out just like Brit and that Nsync lead singer. So, there is really nothing to defend Xtina about here. Though the article was taken out of context, even in context, her issues with britney are clear to see.

A performer is an artist, so I dont know whose wild idea it is that the words performer and artist are mutually exclusive. Actors and actresses are just performers. Are the not Artists? It shows that she was just lashing out without thinking, if anything. Nobody says she hasn't got a better voice than Britney so I dont know what her problem with that poor girl is. There is enough space at the top for both of them and Xtina should stop perpetuating this myth that female top singers can't get along. It excites the record bosses, cat fights. Do you hear them starting up a fight b/w the male singers(not including the rappers who start their own fights). You would think that with Madonna who has been in the biz forever appearing on stage with both of them, the new breed, it would show some sign of togetherness that everybody can get along and work together. Even without the kiss it was a fun performance with Missy as well. Xtina does not help matters adding to the wishes of record bosses and the media by saying derogatory things or things that may be misconstrued as derogatory about Britney everytime she sees a video camera, a mic or even opens her mouth.

I wish them both longevity as I enjoy their music and performances.

#15 — December 31, 2003 @ 11:27AM — jean neilson

all three are tramps what else can be said

#16 — January 12, 2004 @ 06:29AM — ralph

i think that christina is more better than any singer in the whole world. what more can i say? christina is perfect.... { perfect }>

#17 — January 12, 2004 @ 06:38AM — ralph

hello everybody! im ralph lopez in philippines. i just wanna say that if somebody wants to { block mail } christina aguilera pls stopped it or i can kill your soul!! i think if pink compared with christina .pink look like just a dirrty cat!! and if kelly obsourne compared to xtina. kelly is just like a { map rubbing in the floor }. and if britney and madonna compared with christina theyre just like a pill... hahahaha

#18 — January 12, 2004 @ 08:10AM — Eric Olsen

"map rubbing in the floor": hmm

#19 — January 13, 2004 @ 04:51AM — ralph

christina aguilera is perfect. nothing can match christina aguilera. i really know that she had change her look and fashion but her attitude and her good heart is still remain... i dont know that why many people wants to quarrel christina. { maybe because some people is very very insecure to the talent of christina aguilera}. i know that britney spears'pink'kelly obsourne is very popular too and they have their own talent's but christina is much greater and better... { change topic }... in last mtv vedeo award 2003 and mtv europe award 2003 i wonder why beyonce is the winner.. and im angry because christina receive only 1 award { best female } in mtv europe award 2003. we all know that christina is better and greater than anyone. but why beyonce is the winner??????????

#20 — February 8, 2004 @ 03:16AM — valentina

I do not know who wrote this, but is full of CRAP! is BULLSHIT!
Does Xtina really said that?!! or you wanted to put her as the BAD of all the fu!$#ng movies together? Who ever you are...be careful 4 been inventing this shit..."media whore"?? yeah...that's credibility!! that's a page that just want to dish her...the only thing true in all this, is that xtina doesn't like kelly o, she said that madonna tells her that it was fundamental to sing at live, but britney didn't do it..and that put xtina against to britney...never VS MADONNA..thats CRAP! about Pink i don't know but i do know that they were together(talking) in a party last december...STOP saying CRAP about her! you asshole!

#21 — February 9, 2004 @ 17:47PM — anonymous

Here's the deal...I never liked Christina before because back then her music was stupid & shallow and she looked horrible. But now...I don't know her, but I really respect that girl! She has grown up, she has changed her tune & improved her style.

When "Beautiful" came out, it was, well, beautiful. At last she is showing some talent & her clothes look much better. Now she looks & acts like a sexy, refined lady...although I personally thought the "Dirrty" video was just nasty. And she looks very cute with black hair...it looks more natural than that trashy yellow-blond she had last year.


She also looks healthier, her makeup is nicer, & she doesn't look sickly anymore. I love the white dress in her most recent video (can't remember the name). I'm not a fan of hers, I don't have any of her music in my CD/cassette collection, but I have a newfound appreciation for her music & the way she is now.

#22 — February 9, 2004 @ 18:40PM — Dwaine AKA Scooter AKA D.J.

Actually, Christina A. has some soul in her voice. Although people may disagree on some things she sings about, you can't deny that she has an excellent voice and is a talented singer.

#23 — February 12, 2004 @ 02:15AM — Nat

I personally like both Christina and Britney. I think Christina has sass and a real fun attitude, as well as a lot of talent. Britney cannot sing anywhere as well as Christina, but she can dance really well, and she always puts on a good show.
However, I think Christina flopped at the recent Grammys - her dress looked awful and she did not sing well.

In my opinion, Christina has a major girl-girl crush on Britney. Why?
She can't stop talking about the woman, and as people have been saying in their comments, her eyes go "shifty" when she talks about Britney. I guess even though Christina is a year older than Britney, Christina looks up to Britney in a way. Britney's career jump started quicker than Christina's did, and also Britney is just a lot more outgoing and courageous than Christina.
As we all know, Christina had a bad childhood, so maybe at that young age, she had a ray of sunshine in her life - Britney Spears.

#24 — March 17, 2004 @ 05:39AM — blaise [URL]

you should of been the must sexiest women because everyone at school thinks you are the best love from blaise send back

#25 — March 17, 2004 @ 10:34AM — sheri

*pondering the difference between laughing your ass off, and laughing your ass out* ;0)

#26 — April 4, 2004 @ 03:28AM — amy

hey look i love pink, britney, KELLY and sometimes madonna...

christina can be alright herself sometimes... but geez, dont it just hurt your eyes looking at her... its like looking at an orange candy bar on those days where she seems to have bathed in fake tan... admittedly she looks better with black hair then the sickly peroxided 'do', but does this girl always have to go to extremes... a simple brown would be nice...

she needs to tone down her aggresiveness, dress sense and her foul lanuguage and over critism of others...

she is not perfect...


nor will she ever be.

go Kelly for barely trying to be cool and pulling it of anyways.

#27 — April 4, 2004 @ 16:13PM — Angel

Okay, here's what I think: for those people who think that Christina would never EVER say something like what was posted in the article, and that the media blew it WAY out of proportion, I think you're wrong. I mean, COME ON...if the girl had the guts to stand up to Eminem, she sure as hell could have the guts to trash other artists. Especially females. And yes, I think there's a pretty good chance this was all blown way out proportion cuz, well the media feeds off of stuff like that. So the more it's talked about, the worse it percieved. But back to the Christina thing, since I do believe she's capable and gutsy enough to say crap like that, I just hope she lightens up and realizes that she's got a great voice, pretty good style, and if she tones down the make up just a smidge, she's just "BEAUTIFUL." And if she is jealous of certain other female artists, she needs to get rid of that too because, she's got her own thing going and she's been successful since she began her career. Yea so Brit came into the picture first and supposedly has done better than Christina, but who cares?!? Christina has got fans of her own who support and love her, so she should stay away from the typical pop princess cat fights and focus on her career. Cuz if she thinks that by bad mouthing other people she's gonna be getting the publicity she wants, she's wrong. Yes she's getting publicity, but she's gaining the role of the jealous bitch while she's at it. Thank you all very much for your attention and I hope everything I said made sense...and I'll be waiting for my Nobel Prize. Just kidding.

#28 — April 7, 2004 @ 18:45PM — Dona

CHRISTINA AGUILERA ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND BRITNEY SPEARS IS A FUCKING TRAMP WHO HASN'T GOT ANY TALENT AT ALL.
AS FOR CHRISTINA FIGHTING WITH PINK IM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHATS GOING ON BECAUSE IN CDUK CAT ASKED PINK IF SHE LIKES BRITNEY OR CHRISTINA AND PINK SAID CHRISTINA.

#29 — April 17, 2004 @ 08:32AM — laura

kelly is like so much beta dan christina christina is a tart and she should stop actin like a 3 year old i mean how pathetic is it wen sum 1 frowz darts at sum 1s head like omg
KeLlY rOkZ

#30 — April 25, 2004 @ 12:46PM — Mark

Madonna: shes so lost now. No body wants her anymore. Her last album was a completed failed.
P¡nk: Uhmmm i reserv my coments to her. (they can be very bad).
Kelly: OMG! shes just a fattie piggy who think shes a singer! shes so poo! yeck!!!.
britney: Shes just another girl who think can sing! shes just a dancer.People likes to her just because her dances are erotic, and for her sexual image. not more!.For me shes not a singer , is a dancing girl with a sexual image.
Christina: Shes a singer. i dont like her. but i think shes better than all the other mentioned "singers" in this topic. so....

#31 — May 1, 2004 @ 18:55PM — MATHEUS SILVA

I THINK CHRISTINA IS THE GREATEST PERSON IN THE WHOLE WORLD!SHE'S AMAZING! BRITNEY IS JUST A BITCH THAT THINKS SHE CAN SING.I'VE BEEN A CHRISTINA FAN SINCE GENIE IN A BOTTLE AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT HER LIFE.I KNOW SHE WOULDN'T TALK ALL THAT SHIT ABOUT MADONNA(ONE OF HER IDOLS!!!) AND ABOUT PINK (SHE SANG WITH HER AND HAS A VIDEO WITH HER FOR CHRIST SAKE!!)AND ALSO ABOUT BRITNEY (ONE OF HER SHILDHOOD FRIENDS!!).SHE IS NOT A PERFECT PERSON. NO ONE IS!!!BUT SHE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST PERSONS IN THE WHOLE WORLD.PLEASE, DON'T SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT HER!LISTEN TO HER CD'S AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE GIRL!SHE CAME TO THIS WORLD TO CHANGE IT AND SHE ALREADY CHANGED MY LIFE.THANK YOU CHRISTINA FOR BEEING WHO YOU ARE!!!! I LOVE YOU SO FUCKIN' MUCH!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#32 — May 1, 2004 @ 20:13PM — Aaron, Duke De Mondo [URL]

I will now make a very important announcement. Being a fan of "the punk and such", ie, Dead Kennedys and also Pre-Sandanista Clash, although Police On My Back was fantastic, i can safely say that Stripped was the most amazing record i had heard in a long long time when it arrived. The energy, the raw passion in there, that was not the work of a manufactured product, that was the work of an incredible artiste. I totally recommend that record, even though folks said "ha! Duke, how can you have The Queen Is Dead and Stripped on the same shelf, nay, the same HOUSE or possibly STREET??" That album was amazing, and i never tire of it. Utterly astounding. Best pop record since Too Rye Aye, no bullshit. I worship that fucking record, at least until Jello Biafra comes down from the mountains with a couple rocks yellin about this golden cow. Plus, if one where to consult a pie-chart and also some diagrams, or spreadsheets, one would see that miss Agrururrlele is much better looking than the Fugazi chaps. About 89.5%, roughly. I'd certainly whistle at her before i would perform similar air-distoring actions towards, say, Dexys Midnight Runners.

#33 — June 24, 2004 @ 03:35AM — Ulysses

I love Christina, as my vast #'s of pictures, repeats of her songs on Stripped, and drawings will show, and I also know that since her Genie in a Bottle days her image has gotten...well... out there at times, even though it really doesn't faze me. But, thats all I really know about her, besides the rare moments I may here her speak out. When you think about it, a majority of the things we here about her are based on things people wrote, and knowing how the media has the tendency to miss-quote people, and embellish quite a bit on issues(just think about the Y2K scare.)I think its rather ridiculous to judge a person from what the media says.

I am an artist, and I remember when someone wrote an article about me, I was miss quoted saying I liked art "because it's easy."It's true, I did say that, but I was joking, and even though I let the interviewer know I was joking and told then to write I liked art "because it was a way of expressing myself." My "joke" was written in every newspaper article, making those who read it believe I was an egotistical snob rather than someone who just found beauty in it.

So to end my rambling, I don't care whether you love her or hate her, but don't believe everything you here unless there is proof directly from the source.

#34 — June 24, 2004 @ 04:00AM — Bob A. Booey [URL]

Who the hell are you, Ulysses?

#35 — June 24, 2004 @ 06:45AM — Douglas Mays [URL]

hhhmmm...all those darn girls are so catty. With Christina, maybe it is a deeper thing. I saw a VH1 (or some cable channel) thing on her. Wow, she did go through one of those weird struggles for a girl with a talented voice. All through her young upbringing years she was seriously attacked by the kids around her for being really good. Stuff like having to move because stuff got dangerous and unhealthy (tires slashed on family car, constant slagging at school, etc.). Maybe she is working out some anger and other emotions caused by stuff like that.

Love her? Hate her? I don't know her! She could be a bitch or a wonderful person. I don't know what the twisted chemistry is really all about between her and B. Spears, Pink, Kelly O. or anyone else. Oh gosh girls, quit reading the tabloids and get along. Maybe they can all do the Angry Girl Lollapalooza Tour together.

peaceloveguidance

#36 — June 24, 2004 @ 08:30AM — SFC SKI

Well, she can actually sing, as opposed to her peers, it is just a shame she got into pop/dance stuff and not rock and roll. Unfortunately there are very few women rockers these days, much less those who can carry a tune.

#37 — June 28, 2004 @ 13:25PM — Boosie [URL]

I'm not gonna defend or diss christina because it's been done in those posts... All I have to say is that you are all sad for writing about this and I am sadder because i read every single comment. Ciao. Christina...I love you. You inspired me...

#38 — June 28, 2004 @ 14:15PM — Douglas Mays [URL]

SFCSKI, no kidding! I would love to see Spears, Aguilera, Madonna, etc. just rock it out and be a singer in a band. That would really show what their voices can do and their showman abilities as well. And an occasional unplugged set would be cool also.

Anyway,
peaceloveguidance

#39 — July 17, 2004 @ 22:23PM — amy

i think christina isnt dissing anyone she doesnt have to she has a beautiful voice and is really talented and people talk about her..who cares theyre just jealous

#40 — August 23, 2004 @ 15:37PM — Dianna

I DNT CARE IF YOU HATE CHRISTINA CUZ I LOOOOOOOVE THAT GRL TO DEATH SHE IS THE GREATEST EVER!!! KELLY OSBOURNE YOU SHOULDNT TALK ABOUT BEING DISGUSTING YOUR A FAT UGLY BITCH, AND I THINK EVEN YOUR DAD IS PRETTIER THAN YOU! BRITNEY GET A FUCKING LIFE AND TRY TO LOSE SOME OF THAT GROSS CELLULITE YOU GOT NEAR YOUR FAT ASS! MADONNA AND PINK I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU SO I WNT SAY N E THING BUT THE REST OF YOU GO TO HELL! CHRISTINA I LOVE YOU THANK YOU FOR BEING URSELF!!!

#41 — September 13, 2004 @ 03:24AM — natalie

i just have 2 say that all of you that believe tha shit they post on tha net bout xtina or any other celeb r retarted. as if any of it is true. its called they make shit up so they can sell and create a stir. christina is an amazing singer, shes talented beautiful n real and i respect her as an artist. i don believe that any1 should hate her because of the crap they read. its not like U no her u r just believing shit that is made up. xtina is making money, making ppl happy and having a good life and if any1 disses her for that they can get F*CKED.
xtina ur a ledgened and i will 4eva be one of ur biggest fans

#42 — October 25, 2004 @ 21:16PM — Cazle

I think X Tina Fuckin' rules and i dont give a fuck what anyone says!!!!!!

#43 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:30AM — Leo Leahy

I don't know what the f**k is wrong with Christina SLaguilera, she just has a mental problem! P!nk is the best and she would f**king kill the slag, so would Kelly Osbourne & Avril Lavigne. I don't really like Avril or Kelly much but its the truth! The only good thing about Christina is that she can sing, but everything else is all BAD! She's a slut, rude, ugly & annoying. I would really like her to DIE!!! She needs to sort herself out, P!nk doesn't copy her- P!nk was going to do that kiss with Madge 1st any way with Gwen Stefani but she turned Madonna down. P!nk also wears her own individual clothes, she is not a prostitute like Slaggers! P!NK is great, she can sing, she is buff, she is always being herself and she is a Rocker! Christina S is CRAP! OK?.....

#44 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:35AM — SFC SKI

Some topics are timeless, apparently.

#45 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:38AM — Leo Leahy [URL]

THE SLUT OF THE DECADE AWARD GOES TO CHRISTINA SLAGUILERA!! I have never liked her and I never will, she is a bitch! I aggree with ppl who HATE her because she is so rude! THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES HER LOOK "NICE" IS THE MAKE UP, HAVE YOU SEEN WITHOUT IT ALL ON? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH!! P!nk has really got talent ok?

#46 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:50AM — Leo Leahy [URL]

I think P!nk is fucking Excellent! Nothing will ever change that! She has had a really bad childhood and she grew up to be such a great talented young woman! She rox. Xtina can just piss off i'm happy she got beaten by her dad when she was younger! He should have finished the job properly! P!nk ignored the whore for ages, but then got sick of it and said "I'm not the only one she talks shit about, I have to assume it comes from insecurity"-no one can blame Pink at all for this big thing. Its all christina's fault. Kelly Osbourne has no talent at singing and she knows that but she is completely innocent in this! Kelly is really funny, she has a real sense of character!!! Avril is quite shit really though. Christina sux Madge. Ha Ha xxx

#47 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:51AM — Leo Leahy [URL]

P!NK IS THE BEST!!!

#48 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:52AM — Leo Leahy [URL]

PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK

#49 — October 29, 2004 @ 07:55AM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Goodbye people and I hope im saying goodbye to slaguilera sooner more than later! (Hope she dies) She is just like J.LO she is shagging a guy for 2 hours gets married then a week later its divorce!!! Both sluts. Pink has been in a relationship with her boyf Carey Hart for 3 years now!!! BYE! P!NK ROX

#50 — October 31, 2004 @ 10:56AM — Joanna

will you people just shut up and give xtina a break??? i mean, kelly shud mind her own business cuz christina is not the only quote-unquote "disgusting human beings in the entire world" Anyway, xtina knows how to flaunt her sexuality in the right way, unlike britney who doesnt.
wouldnt you do or say the same thing if you were chirstina herself? come on, she's not that bad ya know

#51 — November 7, 2004 @ 12:09PM — Leo [URL]

So what if Pink and slaguilera did a vid 2getha! People can break up you know! der. P!nk is really talented and well, so is christina but christina is rude and ignorant! Beyonce needs to DIE!

#52 — November 19, 2004 @ 01:36AM — fools

would you fools please stop dissing chrissitna?????? I LUV HER SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. pink is a bitch, kelly osbourne is a fucking fool so its natural chrsitna hates themm. bitchney skanks should be stoned to death

i mean, if someone dresses and copies your styles, wont YOU get pisses?

#53 — November 19, 2004 @ 10:26AM — Eric Olsen

I have resolved to stop dissing chrissitna

#54 — November 19, 2004 @ 11:15AM — Taloran

Many excellent, convincing arguments in this thread. Well written, beautifully composed, filled with and supported by fact rather than drooling with opinion.

I wonder why I haven't noticed this excellent thread before? I'll have to tune in frequently.

#55 — November 19, 2004 @ 11:55AM — Eric Olsen

perhaps you are unaware of the chrissitna imperative?

#56 — November 19, 2004 @ 16:13PM — Scoota Rey

Why can't you people stop dissing each other because they have different tastes? Personally, I really don't like pop music, but you don't see me dissing others about it.

(And if I do, it's only just to tease.)

#57 — November 28, 2004 @ 21:17PM — Jenz

You guys are all fuckheads!
1st of all..how can u sit there and write shit about celebrities? If you dont like them for whatever reason you have, then fine! Thats your choice, everyone has different taste, but dont sit there and obsess about them and talk shit, becuz ur probably worse then them! none of yous obviosuly even know her to be judging her like that. You's all need to fukin grow up and obsess about sumthing or sumone u know, but not a fukin celebrity! THey'r living a life they'v always dreamed about, they'v achieved so much, and put so much hard work into what they do and you guys dont even apperciate any of it. I mean fair enough if in you opinion its shit, but keep your fukin verdict to yourselfs. Your all sad asses to be sitting here dissing people you dont even know. grow up fukheads.

#58 — November 28, 2004 @ 23:53PM — Jenz' Mom

Jenz, One more outburst like that out of
you and I'm telling your father!!!

#59 — December 17, 2004 @ 11:39AM — Alicia

Okay, that leo leahy guy has serious(kill,die,death) problems. He sounds like a psyco. Anyway, I think x-tina is one of the most talented singer/artist in the industry. I know for a fact that she is only one of the extremely few artists that can reach certain difficult high notes. That gives her an "A+" in my book. I really don't care about her personal life. I spend my money on CD'S based on talent.

#60 — December 19, 2004 @ 20:39PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Oh Alicia get real, you dont know me so shut up bitch!!! I never said 'xtina' wasnt talented because she really is! I said that she is a very rude woman. P!nk is very very talented too but shes not rude unless she has to be, so that makes her ace!!!
Im sorry if I pissed you off but Im telling my views, look at everyone else, they're worse! The title also 'whats up with christina' you cannot deny that shes not rude!!!!!!!!
P!nk is the best!!!

#61 — December 19, 2004 @ 20:40PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Oh Alicia get real, you dont know me so shut up bitch!!! I never said 'xtina' wasnt talented because she really is! I said that she is a very rude woman. P!nk is very very talented too but shes not rude unless she has to be, so that makes her ace!!!
Im sorry if I pissed you off but Im telling my views, look at everyone else, they're worse! The title also 'whats up with christina' you cannot deny that shes not rude!!!!!!!!
P!nk is the best!!!

#62 — December 19, 2004 @ 21:30PM — Temple Stark [URL]

Yeah, calling someone bitch makes you Blogcritics material.

Good going. I'm sure Pink would love such a lame, unwarranted verbal assault - you call someone bitch so casually.

#63 — December 21, 2004 @ 13:44PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Whatever 'Temple'-Good name!

#64 — December 21, 2004 @ 13:44PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

BITCH

#65 — December 21, 2004 @ 13:53PM — Eric Olsen

1) Pink looks like a boy
2) I am unaware of any rules that state being a Pink fan means having to despise all other female artists

#66 — December 23, 2004 @ 18:32PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

P!nk doesn't look like a boy at all, she is a very sexy young woman and very talented! Christina without make up looks like a male tramp, P!nk does not look her best without make up but she's 100% buff compared to you lot's filthy 'Xtina'. If you're a P!nk fan it doesn't make you hate every other female celeb-I like plenty! (Gwen Stefani, Eve, Missy, Kelly Osbourne, Clea Duvall, Ms Dynamite, Jessie Wallace etc.) So shut up you little kid Eric Olsen!!!

#67 — December 23, 2004 @ 19:30PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

PLEASE READ THIS-

P!nk is a very, VERY talented woman who completely does her own thing and minds her own business. She makes lots of kids, teens and adults very happy, she tells how she feels in her lyrics and belts it out like it's the last day of her life! She really loves her fans. You can't blame P!nk at all for this 'Xtina V P!nk' thing because xtina started it and P!nk ignored it for ages, until she got sick of it and replied with "I'm not the only person she chats shit about, I have to assume it comes from insecurity"-Ouch. P!nk is an absolutely wonderful person and I FUCKING LOVE HER!!! Please stop dissing her coz' she aint done nuffin' at all!

#68 — December 23, 2004 @ 19:43PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Christina says that P!nk copies her, how the fuck and why the fuck would she do that?!!??! She says that P!nk copies her clothes (now be honest have you ever seen P!nk in the same clothes as the slag) She also says that P!nk copied the kiss with Madonna that xtina did with Britney, P!nk and Gwen Stefani was gonna be doing that performance and kissing Madge in the first place but she turned Madge down, Gwen wouldn't do it coz P!nk wouldn't. Xtina and Britney were 2nd hand choice so that's my first piece of evidence, my 2nd is that P!nk didn't come on to that Kristanna Loken it was the other way round and just because she kissed a girl it doesn't mean she is copying you darlings! If anyone is copying anyone its xtina-P!nk got in touch with Linda Perry (former 4 non blondes singer) to help her write songs. Everyone including xtina were saying that she can't do that, but then Pink carried on doing it and a year later xtina is begging Linda Perry to help her!!! Ha, sort your fucking self out you worthless shitwits!

#69 — December 23, 2004 @ 19:46PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

At least xtina dont wear fur like Beyonce the bitch, I give her credit for that along with having a good voice. The rest is all slaggy, ugly and rude!

#70 — December 23, 2004 @ 19:47PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

I wouldn't get on the wrong side of PINK.

#71 — December 23, 2004 @ 19:51PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Go away Britney! Who the fuck are you anyway? Kelly rokz.

#72 — January 6, 2005 @ 12:23PM — Danny

YOU ARE ALL SAD AND WAY OFF GUARD. now i do like both britney and christina but britneys gotta win i mean look she started before christina and got a well better turn out (even though i think xtina's voice is amazing)and for thoses of you who dont no brit did actually sing live at the mtv awards up until the part were she had to dance and i say unlucky to xtina but brit hit the pappers because shes better and had alot more going on in her life at that time and xtina took it the wrong way and wantedd pay bac even though shes the one with bad hair these days and no sence of fashion and shes in buisness right now brits on a brake.

#73 — January 6, 2005 @ 12:30PM — danny

AGAIN I SAY YOUR OFF GUARD BRITS THE BEST AND XTINA ISNT ITS NOT HER FAULT BUT XTINA TOOK A BIG MELT DOWN WERE SHE HAD TO MAKE UP THIS HOLE THING WERE SHE HAD TO CHANGE HER IMAGE BECAUSE IT WASNT THE REAL HER I SAY YEAH RIGHT SHE ONLY DID THAT COZ SHE DIDNT WANT TO BE LIKE BRITNEY AND THATS SAD AND CHANGING HERSELF DIDNT DO GOOD THINGS I MEAN I LIIKE HER NEW ALBUM BUT THE VIDIOS TALK ABOUT A DESPERATE NEED TO WANT PEOPLE TO BUY HER ALBUM AND I WONDER WHY THEY DI ERR COZ SHE SHOWED ALOT OF FLESH XTINA SUCKS BRIT ROCKS GET USED TO IT AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANY THING BACK TO ME EMAIL ME ON buffy1slayer5366@aol.com IM WAITING

#74 — January 6, 2005 @ 12:38PM — danny

XTINA WANNA BE, A POP PRICESS MISERY, A FAILIER IT IS TO BE, COZ SHE ACTS LIKE BRITTENY.
YOU GOT ANY COMENTS, ANYTHING YOU WISH, IF YOU GOT THE GUTS EMAIL ME ON THIS. buffy1slayer5366@aol.com

#75 — January 10, 2005 @ 16:29PM — CRZY0124

WITH A LAMEASS RHYME LIKE THAT NO WONDER YOU LIKE BRITNEY. YOU AND BRITNEY BOTH HAVE NO TYPE OF SKILLS. BRITNEY CANT SING, SHE CANT ACT, ALL SHE CAN DO IS DANCE AND ANYBODY CAN DO THAT, WITH A GOOD DANCE TRAINER. ACTUALLY I BELEIVE X-TINA STARTED SINGING FOR SOUNDTRACKS BEFORE BRITNEY'S FIRST CD CAME OUT. I DONT THINK YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT WHEN IT COMES TO FASHION, AFTERALL BRITNEY WAS THE ONE WHO HAD HER BRIDESMAIDS DRESSED IN GHETTO TRACK SUITS. ALSO I HAVE SEEN PLENTY OF NAKED BRITNEY PICTURES WHERE SHE TRIES TO COVER UP WHAT LITTLE SHE HAS. SO THERE GOES YOUR OTHER STUPID, WORTHLESS POINT OUT THE WINDOW.

#76 — January 17, 2005 @ 14:40PM — elizebeth

i tnk dat xtina s da best !111

#77 — January 26, 2005 @ 13:25PM — xtina4eva

omg XTINA RULES THE WORLD IM HER NUMBER ONE FAN SO AL U H8 HER GO DO SUMIT BETA DAN DIS HER ! SHE IS DA BEST SHE IZ DA ONLI PERSON DAT URE SONGS CAN RELATE TO DIFFICUTLIES IN URE LIFE AND HOW TO SOLVE DEN SHE HAS A AN AMZING VOICE! I LOIVE HER PIECES!

#78 — February 8, 2005 @ 07:09AM — Leo L

XTINA4EVA, FUK OFF! P!nk can sing just as well as christina and she sings bout her problems and ours! So go n die!

#79 — February 21, 2005 @ 05:11AM — Leo L [URL]

People can u start writin back, I'm gettin bored!!!

#80 — February 28, 2005 @ 05:27AM — Leo L... [URL]

Fuck Sake!

#81 — May 15, 2005 @ 20:19PM — i love keystroke conservation [URL]

lyk oh em gee i can't believe i read all of the comments on this post.
somebody shoot me, plzkthxbai.

#82 — June 23, 2005 @ 16:29PM — Leo Leahy [URL]

Cnt believe i was like dat, lol. Sorry christina. But P!nk is still better!!!

#83 — August 13, 2005 @ 21:59PM — Pinglepongle

Re: 'James Joyce would be proud'.

He was Irish. Not NORTHERN Irish. [edited]

#84 — August 15, 2005 @ 11:27AM — Leo [URL]

Pink is the best, Christina and Britney are slags! They wouldn't be so bad if a) they wore something b) they got new voices and c) ate cow kak

#85 — August 15, 2005 @ 11:46AM — Eric Olsen

Leo, there is more to life than Pink

#86 — August 16, 2005 @ 20:43PM — PinkSuxx

Pink and Christina are frenz. They just pretend to hate each other so their records will sell. A hottie I know went to one of Pink's parties at her place in cali and said her and Christina were standing there saying things like "well screw these people who haven't made it yet". Sorry pink: Attitude is okay for those who write their biggest hits, not cover "artists"! And plz, if you can't shut up, at least keep the clothes on. I don't do fat.

#87 — August 16, 2005 @ 20:58PM — Boofie

I agree with the above posts. Pink is just not attractive in any way. Christina's voice blows me away and she blew everyone else away on that stupid lady marm remake. Pink's fake semi-raspy vocals came in underneath like a wet doormat, even though they no doubt payd her for much better. I don't like her voice that much. She talks to much and too loud to be for real. I just wonder if she is insecure or something. I don't much care for corporate pop anyway, and I don't think these pop stars work all that hard 'cos they got all these peeps to do their dirty work for them. I think it's mostly luck but hard work? No. But Christina's voice I will admit is really awesome, she can really sing! She should develop a style that doesn't mime Mariah carey so much though.

#88 — August 30, 2005 @ 21:29PM — Piggly-Wiggly

I live in LA and Pink is a PIG!!! even looks like one. She drives one of those huge SUVs around LA while her bro supposedly went off to fight for Iraq's oil. What a scum. Why does anyone even bother with her or any of these overpaid clones? They all suck!

#89 — September 18, 2005 @ 05:07AM — Stacey

I agrree wiv leo, P!nk is the BEST! ever! i love her, PINK IS NT A PIG SHES DA BEST! Piss off xtina!

#90 — September 18, 2005 @ 05:09AM — Bryan

Yea, u go! stacey!!! Pink Rox shes so beautiful, ive met her n shes luvly! Shes a gr8 singer 2! oooo i love her (maybe nt as much as leo leahy) lol xxxx

#91 — October 3, 2005 @ 19:14PM — fai [URL]

britney,kelly and pink are a fuking shit and the three are a grand bitch kelly is a fat slut and britney a super slut pink is a grand idiot and her super drug KELLY YOU SUKS!!!BRITNEY YOU ARE A SUPER SLUT!!!!!!!!

#92 — October 3, 2005 @ 19:19PM — FAI [URL]

CHRISTINA YOU ARE THE BEST NO .MATTER WHAT SAI OF YOU .YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AND SUPER STAR
I LOVE YOU X-TINA

#93 — October 22, 2005 @ 20:40PM — PRETTYGIRL

FIRST OF ALL I DON'T THINK XTINA SAID ANY OF THAT SH.IT PEOPLE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE HER LOOK LIKE THE ONE WITH THE ATTITUDE BUT I THINK NOT AND WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ANYWAYS XTINA LOOKS BETTER IN SINGS BETTER THEN PINK,BRITNEY AND MADONNA I HAVE BEEN A XTINA FAN SINCE GENIE IN A BOTTLE IN I'M NOT GONNA STOP NOW XTINA IS DA BOMB SHE'S GOT THE VOICE THE LOOKS THE LIL SEXY BODY PRETTY EYES GREAT STYLE GOOD PERSONAILTY AND SHE'S ONE SMART YOUNG LADY AND SHE'S NOT A MEDIA WHORE SHE ACTUALLY LET'S PEOPLE MISS HER I CAN'T WAIT TO HER NEW ALBUM COMES OUT SHE'S WORKING WITH SOME GREAT PRODUCERS LIKE DJ PREMIER,KWANE,RICH HARRISON,TRACK STARZ,SWISS BEATS,LINDA PERRY SO THIS HAS GOT TO BE A GREAT ALBUM IN I CAN'T WAIT FOR HER TO SHUT ALL THESE HATERS UP WITH THIS ALBUM IN IF ANYONE ONE CAN DO IT IT'S MISS CHRISTINA AGUILERA.

#94 — November 16, 2005 @ 01:42AM — James

Kelly Osbourne Is More Beautiful & Sexy Than Slaguleira Could ever hope To be. I Wish Kelly Would Drag The Flea Ridden, Plastic Slag Outside and give her an almighty beating , and Do The World a Favour. I Would laugh so hard if She Did.

#95 — November 19, 2005 @ 13:41PM — hiya

i like christina i dont no wat u ave against her i mean u dont no who started fightin or nethin so i dunno y evry1 is makin such a big deal

#96 — November 20, 2005 @ 15:37PM — babe

kelly is fat pink looks like a boy and britney is gay christina is da best out of all of them and now xtinas married

#97 — November 25, 2005 @ 20:01PM — Amy

X-tina better stop dissing Pink coz who's a better singer?who's prettier?who is more popular? and who has more friend's? well the answer to them all is Pink so if X-tina want's to continue her career as a singer then she better back off.

#98 — March 11, 2006 @ 18:30PM — Leeeee-YO [URL]

Wow Leo, who pays you to post such drooling crap about pink? Arista records? I hope so, otherwise you have been ripped off. But anyways check this out:

Doylestown, where pink is from is a really cute little suburb about 40 minutes or so outside Philadelphia. Bad childhood? Didn't look like it to me. My friend who is from Doylestown invited me to visit her and she showed me the house on Turk road where Pink lived. This was a very nice house in a really great neighborhood, not that Pink's record label wants you to know about that. We tried to do a little spying but didn't get too far (paparazzi in training!!!) but we can probably find out more next time. We asked a kid we saw hanging around if he knew anything but he didn't. I think though, that Arista has mistakenly tried to make her look more hard-edged than she is in real life and how she supposedly had such a rough life so that you feel sorry for her and buy the CD. But I don't know. I think Pink is very well produced and obviously has big writers and people behind her but I don't think she offers us anything new or really interesting at all.

Supposedly Pinks mom still lives in Doylestown and her dad lives in Southampton (at least that's what my friend says and she is a much bigger Pink fan than I am). And her dad used to run her fanclub but not anymore, or something like that!

#99 — August 18, 2006 @ 16:51PM — Jami

I'm a brittney spears fan and a christina aguilera fan and somewhat a pink fan. so madonna should stop kissing people and get over herself and pink should just keep doing what shes doing cuz shes in for a lot more fame and brittney is a good person...great mommy! and christina is just fine she has a great voice and has been through a lot especially in her child hood so leave her alone....

#100 — August 18, 2006 @ 17:18PM — Jami

oh and amy you can leave CHRISTINA alone cuz she didnt do nothing to you you can like pink alll you want but you dont have to go dissing CHRISTINA you are the one who should back off (christina is prettier any way)

#101 — September 11, 2006 @ 23:41PM — Rachel [URL]

Wow! No wonder the world is in such a bad state! How can people hail someone like Christina? Nevermind talent, looks, etc.. That's not what I'm referring to, I'm talking about her as a PERSON. I cannot even begin to say how much I dislike this woman, she's shown time and time again what a vile person she really is. She insults everyone, she acts stuck-up or like the world revolves around her and she seems to think everyone should be kissing her ass. I read all these comments and I was SHOCKED! It seems people only care about outer appereance. Nevermind Christina being the BITCH that she is, it's all about the SUPERFICIAL things with you people. I only see evil in Christina, and not one ounce of anything good.

#102 — September 12, 2006 @ 10:50AM — jay

You can live in a palace but if you go looking for trouble in drugs and places like north Philly than ur gonna find it. You think that the record company made up she had friends die of drug overdoses, car accidents and suicide. Or her parents are divorced and she got kicked out of her home at 15. What about all the arrest or that she was spotted in a club at 15 and she did drugs. They would of had to keep alot of people quiet. Ok my parents are divorced i've had friends OD'd and commit suicide but not all before i got out of my teens or school.Add all the hormones and peer pressure thats gotta be tough on a kid.Why would any spend that time making soo much stuff up. Alot can happen behind cloed doors. She must of been unhappy or she wouldn't of tried to runaway so many times. Pink deserves to be respected not dissed.

#103 — September 24, 2006 @ 16:43PM — istanbul fan

I like Xtina. Her own style of dressing, make-up, hair. Well, honestly I dont think she's hot or beautiful without all those but I guess she's good at creating her own style.

#104 — September 24, 2006 @ 19:19PM — Crazee Daisy
#105 — September 26, 2006 @ 15:34PM — jay

well she is sure not beautiful in those pics.

#106 — September 26, 2006 @ 15:35PM — jay

though her skin looks ok

#107 — September 29, 2006 @ 17:14PM — wateva

whoeva sed dat dey r glad christina aguilera gt beaten up by her dad is disgustin who the hel do u fink u r 2 sai dat, no 1 shud hav 2 go thro sumfink lyk dat. shes a amazin artist n ur probably jst jealous cs u na u wil neva b ne fink compared 2 her

#108 — December 10, 2006 @ 08:32AM — Roslyn MARILYN ROCKS

i absolutley hate christina she is false horrid and a slag! she is soo cheap she has had a boob job she can not walk in heels she has horrible wig like hair i hate hate hate the stupid midget!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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