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Ja Rule vs 50 Cent feud over?

Written by Marty Dodge
Published November 06, 2003

From: CMU

An interview between Nation of Islam minister Louis Farrakhan and Ja Rule was aired in the US yesterday, and Ja promised the minister he would try to put to an end his high profile feud with 50 Cent.

Ja Rule explained that the feud began during a video shoot in New York. Much of the squabbling has taken place through the raps on the respective MCs records, though on two occasions it did reportedly escalate into fist fights - once in Atlanta and once at a New York studio.

Farrakhan told Ja: "I never want to see anything happen to you, Ja, and I never want to see anything happen to 50. I want to see peace." He added that he wanted the feud to end for "the benefit of hip-hop and the youth who emulate rap stars".

Ja replied: "When I first heard the records, I said, 'Come on, I'm bigger than that'. But the public started to give me ridicule."

But he added: "It's not about me and 50's personal beef. It's about the overall state of hip-hop and the children that are coming up watching and learning and pitting themselves against each other because one rapper says he doesn't like the other. I'd be crazy and disrespectful to say I wouldn't sit down at the table and try to help hip-hop."

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Ja Rule vs 50 Cent feud over?
Published: November 06, 2003
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#1 — November 9, 2003 @ 12:49PM — mick [URL]

ja is hot than 50 and is soldier

#2 — November 12, 2003 @ 16:38PM — Sugar

I think that they are both two great rappers and they are both talented.

#3 — November 13, 2003 @ 11:42AM — bill

ja is fucking fag he is so fake he sings soft and then he tries to act hard dissing 50 when really 50 would beat the shit out of him if they ever fought. murder inc is all gay they are all a bunch of pussys. ja is a weak little dude that thinks he is tupac but he's not because tupac could rap and back his shit up but ja is just a pussy

#4 — November 13, 2003 @ 11:57AM — Kurt Nordstrom

Color me ignorant, but a culture that has to worry about young people hurting each other based on the disagreement of popular musicians (I use that term loosely) is in real trouble. Not that I should really take Farrakhan seriously as cultural representative.

#5 — November 25, 2003 @ 16:57PM — Belgian gansta

the beef between ja and 50 is idiot. they're both great artists. If this continious it's going to end like biggie and pac. Then they will be killed. and it would be a big loss for the hiphop world. so like ja said in his video Hiphop is dying, reach for peace
Hiphop forever

#6 — November 30, 2003 @ 20:34PM — jessie

50 n ja are tight but 50 cent complains 2 much about gettin shot 9 times in the chest.50 cent thinks hes bigger than any other rapper.but hes not

#7 — December 2, 2003 @ 19:59PM — scott

well like they said in that interview, FOR MY entertainment I WOULD like to see them end up like biggie and pac, it would be a controversy and interesting, dont think bad of me cuz i said that u know it would be.. i dont like ja and 50 is one of my fav rappers, but i want to see em BE REAL and hire a fuckin hit already, JUST BLAZE WzeEZD PEACE

#8 — December 2, 2003 @ 22:40PM — Steve

Learn some fucking grammar you fucking idiots.

#9 — December 2, 2003 @ 23:37PM — duane

The move from a structuralist account in which Ja Rule is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of 50 cent, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power.

Howzzat, Steve?

#10 — December 3, 2003 @ 13:58PM — stunna

50 cent is scary how u gone claim to be like 2-pac but yet u runnin around scared? pac got shot 5 times, u never saw him run out and get a bomb proof suv or be laced in a bullet proof outfit i mean come on 50 cent has a bullet proof hat, he's nothing but a scary ass who tries to be hard. how u gone say u down for pac and you gone hol it down til he returns but yet u turn around and make a song wit biggie talkin bout no body better fuck wit biggie, ummm hello 50 is anybody up there or did the bullet to yo face affect yo brain?

#11 — December 3, 2003 @ 14:08PM — duane

Good grief. Sorry, I couldn't help it.

#12 — December 3, 2003 @ 14:20PM — Eric Olsen

How 'bout dat beef between the Fat Boys and the Sugarhill Gang? Yo.

#13 — December 3, 2003 @ 14:32PM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

fo real Eric? Fo shizzle you can't be sizzle?

#14 — December 3, 2003 @ 14:46PM — Eric Olsen

Old Navy to you, too

#15 — December 4, 2003 @ 14:56PM — Danzie Mathurin

50 is a little punk who's claim to fame is dissing all the Big Rap Star. Now that he is a star himself he gotta maintain what made him famous by targeting Ja, Ya'll aint seeing that 50 forget links with Jay-z and em' cuz he really dont want and can't handle waring with Heavyweights.....Like Sizzla said. Dem Could never tek mi Bredrin crown.ja rules and reigns..IT'S Murder. fuck that five-0 muda fucker

#16 — December 4, 2003 @ 22:06PM — brian [URL]

fuck all yall ja fool is asinger not a rapper.ja rule has never seen the insideof a jail cell.
50 cent wacthed his mom get shot and die.ja follis still sucking on his moms ugly tits.
50 cent respects 2 pac
SHADY RECORDS FOR LIFE DR DRE SNOOP EMIENM ICE CUBE . WAREN G.MACK 10.NATE DOG ,XZIBIT. 50 CENT ,THEY MADE RAP THE WAY IT IS NOW . FUCK MURDER INC

#17 — December 4, 2003 @ 22:12PM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

Are you kidding me with this? Bwahahaha. Talking like you have some street credibility on an internet message board in type-written format. That is some commitment. Word.

#18 — December 5, 2003 @ 23:59PM — pac

50 represents pac? hell no. he has no skills what so ever. have u ever heard him live? hes horrible. he doesnt even write his own shit. u gotta giv ja credit cuz hes not just a performer, but also a song writer. and if his goal is to be the next pac, then let it be his goal. respect him for wanting to be like the best rapper of all time. being the next pac is a goal every rapper should have

#19 — December 8, 2003 @ 12:24PM — mike

um, pac is about the gayest rapper of all time. he maybe had a few good songs. im not saying i like 50, but hes a shitload better than ja rule, who isnt even a rapper, hes a singer. his music sucks and he couldnt rap his way out of a wet paper bag. pac may have gotten shot 5 times but 50 got shot 9 times. so how can you say hes a scardy cat? even if he was, i think i would be too after getting shot 9 times. i dont see how anyone could like the murder inc label, theyre all just a bunch of faggots who have no talent. ja is just so full of himself too. thinking that 50 hated on him because he was getting love from people during their shoot. i think that great boofest at the source awards might deflate that ego of his, and might help him realize HE SUCKS AND NO ONE LIKES HIM

#20 — December 8, 2003 @ 15:48PM — skillo

some ya'll have no idea what ya'll talikn about.50 cent is scared as hell and he cant be like 2pac.how can you walk around wit about 20 security guards for.he always talks about being shot nine times and i dont even think he did get shot nine times.i think 50 cent and the g-unit are more scared than ja because ja is the only one you heard lookin' for 50 but 50 tries to hide.50 aint no gangstar coz gangstars know how to shoot while 50 does not know he got starbed by black child while his gun was around his waist.50 you need to think about what those people write for you to sing.holla bac

#21 — December 9, 2003 @ 02:42AM — Brian [URL]

ill say this one more time for all of you to understand. JA FOOL is a BITCH.
he's never been to jail . u know why he's a bitch .when eminem whent up to him at the mtv awards , eminem asked him ther and then infornt of all of murder inc if he had a problem with him or . and ja said NO! .....
murder inc is a bunch of racist fagets.
listen people they are NOT RAPPERS.
please understand the real rappers are
2 pac,dre,ice cube,mack10,eazy e,eminnem .
eminem has real good songs.and he's a reall good free styler
send me back messages if u have something to say

#22 — December 9, 2003 @ 04:20AM — nuthaday [URL]

fuckin pussys! ja nuthin but a lil boy. and we should let 50 & em ride on his bitch ass.

#23 — December 9, 2003 @ 09:13AM — Jonathan

heh. It all sounds like a big boring publicity stunt to me.

#24 — December 9, 2003 @ 23:06PM — dustin

50 rules and ja's a fag we all know that ja will never stand up he a punk. and thats all there is to it!!!!

#25 — December 14, 2003 @ 18:47PM — Churrky

All fags had better keep hell their mouth shut coz Ja is bad as the worse of 50 but as good as 2pac. So all Ape's brotha dat got shot 9 times is a hell scary story. I think Ja deserve all it takes as a top rapperz of all time like 2pac. Ja is not the swiftest, not the strongest neither is he the greatest but he is simply the KING of all Rapperz. And if you don't know you gat to know!

#26 — December 16, 2003 @ 05:31AM — ruth

u'z r all chattin especialy mike nuthaday n brian-> ja is a rapper so get ur facts straight n since wen is tupac 'gay'?!?! dont b a wanksta all ur life mike.

#27 — December 16, 2003 @ 09:52AM — Adam Sumwalt

Its a ONE SIDED BATTLE, you gotta be stupid if you dont see this, 50 cent woops ja, I mean theres no question, ja rule aint shit, hes a lil punk who sings softwith ashanti and dresses up like "grease" , then claims to be a murderer, ..shit. 50 is totally the winner, anyone that is for ja..FUCK YOU PUSSYS! FUCK MURDER INC.

#28 — December 16, 2003 @ 10:08AM — Adam Sumwalt

if anyone has to say summin bout 50 , let me know

email me

sumwalt23@hotmail.com

#29 — December 16, 2003 @ 13:51PM — JUGG [URL]

U NO 50 AND JA R JUS TRYIN 2 B PAC N BIG.
JA'Z A PUSSYHOLE AND TRIEZ 2 B PAC.
IF 2 PAC WAS ALIVE HE WOULD SHIT ON 50 AND JA.
A LOT OF PEOPLE R SAYIN 50'Z BETTA DEN PAC, N ALL I'M GUNNA SAY IS SUCK MY BIG FAT DICK, U NO WOT I'M SAYIN.
SUM PEOPLE ERE R SAYIN PAC'Z GAY FUCK U, UR A FASSYHOLE U BITCH ASS

#30 — December 16, 2003 @ 13:55PM — Eric Olsen

impressive use of encryption

#31 — December 16, 2003 @ 13:57PM — Craig Lyndall [URL]

I guess I should be embarassed that I can read what that person wrote. Well, all except the "FASSYHOLE" thing. I am not sure what the hell that means, but I can take an (un)educated guess.

#32 — December 16, 2003 @ 15:15PM — duane

Music is well said to be the speech of angels. --- Thomas Carlyle, British historian.

#33 — December 17, 2003 @ 21:48PM — shaun

you all have to be kidding, they are both no talent commercial rappers. their beef is all media hype. I don't care if 50has been shot 9 times, him and ja would both piss themselves if they had a gun in their face. 50 just talked shit about big rappers while he was still nothin, and ja, the little preppy bitch, went on this singing fad with ashanti. Fuck 'em both

#34 — December 18, 2003 @ 19:25PM — Matt G

I agree wiv Shaun, this feud is like Chinese whispers gettin blown outta proportion. Whats 50 gonna rap bout on his nxt album?He's an average rapper and ok he got shot, so fuckin wot?he needs to get ova it, he's no pac. As for Ja, he's not hip hop he's POP, fake little rat. Wot eva happened to real hip hop, Wu Tang, Cypress Hill, Busta, Mos Def, Dre, Xzibit, A Tribe Called Quest? That's REAL hip hop!

#35 — December 20, 2003 @ 12:47PM — Xavier [URL]

Shut the fuck up, mutha fucker
50 heard 9 shots, and not got shot 9 times, only the echo of the bullet scared him, and he was with 50 bodyguards, with 50guns, if he claims he was pac, how come he was standing with 50bodyguard and wearin 're bulletproof pants. he 're coward, shit on him. But Ja, Ja's the real man, he never wanted the beef, but 50 and Em made him diss them back. and he worths being pac.

#36 — December 21, 2003 @ 18:59PM — just a ja fan [URL]

50's a fag and hes mum died cos she was
a hoe they all gay hope he gets shot
but he die cos of his vest hi hi hi!!!
what a fag dre give ezee e aides he
give him rite up the ass he mite have
give em two ggggggg gay unit

#37 — December 21, 2003 @ 20:36PM — HW Saxton

This is quite possibly the single most
fascinating topic of conversation since
the Brady Bunch VS The Partridge Family
debates.

#38 — December 22, 2003 @ 10:53AM — pac man

look, 2 pac was an artist, any1 who has ANYTHING 2 say against pac should b hunted down and killed. check this:

The Eternal Lament

From my mind 2 the depths of my soul
I yearn 2 achieve all of my goals
And all of my free time will be spent
On the 1's I miss I will lament

I am not a perfectionist
but still I seek perfection
I am not a great romantic
But yet I yearn 4 affection

Eternally my mind will produce
ways 2 put my talents 2 use
and when I'm done no matter where I've been
I'll yearn 2 do it all again.

that's soulful man, thats poetry and it came from pac's mouth. all u hear 50 and rule talkin' is gangsta shit, which tupac did aswell, i know, but he was striving 4 change... he accepted that he was the way he was and couldn't change but through his music he tried to reach out 2 ppl "in the hood or the ghetto street corners" and try 2 get them to change. name 1 song where 50 or rule attempt 2 do this... they're both good artists with talent and i enjoy both their music but pac is the king of hip-hop and always will be... no1 will ever knock him off his throne!

take that mutherfucker!
i think the reign aint callin murda!
i think the reign ain't callin 50!

the realest, leava y'all wiv dis. aight. pac man out!

I ain't got no motherfuckin friends
That's why I fucked yo' bitch, you fat motherfucker
(take money) West side!!
Bad Boy killers
(take money) You know the realest is niggaz
(take money) We bring it to you
(take money)

First off, fuck your bitch in the clit you claim
West side when we ride come equipped with game
You claim to be a player but I fucked your wife
We bust on Bad Boy niggaz fucked for life
Plus Puffy tryin ta see me weak hearts I rip
Biggie Smallz and Junior M.A.F.I.A. some mark ass bitches
We keep on comin' while we runnin for ya jewels
steady gunnin, keep on bustin at the fools, you know the rules
Little Ceaser, go ask ya homie how I leave ya
cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased
Lil Kim, don't fuck around with real G's
Quick to snatch yo' ugly ass off tha street, so fuck peace
I let them niggas know it's on for life
So let the West side ride tonight hahahah
Bad Boy murdered on wax, and killed
Fuck wit' me and get ya caps peeled, you know ... see ...

Grab ya glocks, when you see Tupac
Call the cops, when you see Tupac, uhh
Who shot me, but ya punks didn't finish
Now ya bout to feel the wrath of a menace
NIGGA, I hit em' up...

Check this out, you muthafuckas know what time it is
I don't even know why I'm on this track
ya'll nigguz ain't even on my level
I'ma let my little homies ride on you
bitch made-ass bad boy bitches -- deal with it!!

Get out the way yo, get out the way yo
Biggie Smallz just got dropped
Little Moo, pass the Mac, and let me hit him in his back
Frank White need to get spanked right, for settin tracks
little accident murderer, and I ain't never heard-a ya
Poisinous gats attack when I'm servin ya
Spank the shank ya whole style when I dank
Guard your rank, cause I'ma slam you in the pavement
Puffy weaker that a fuckin rocka wanna do, nigga
and, I'll smoke ya junior mafia in front of you, nigga
With the ready power tuckin my Guess under my Eddie Bauer
ya clout, pretty sour I get packages every hour
and hit em up

Tupac
Peep how we do it, keep it real, it's penitentiary steel
this aint no freestyle battle, all you niggaz gettin
killed with ya mouths open
tryin to come up offa me, you in the clouds hoping
smokin dope it's like a sherm high
Niggaz think they learned to fly
But they burned muthafucka, you deserve to die
Talkin bout you gettin money, but its funny to me
All you niggaz living bummy, while you fuckin' wit me
I'm a self made milionare
Thug Livin out a prison, pistols in the air, hahaha
Biggie, remember when I used to let you sleep on my couch
and beg the bitch to let you sleep in the house, ahh
Now its all about Versacci, you copied my style
Five shots couldn't drop me, I took it, and smiled
Now I'm bout to set the record straight, with my AK
I'm still the thug you love to hate
Motherfucker, I hit em up

I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occur
No points to be calmer, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Little Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees
Coppin pleas cuz this ain't your area
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil Junior Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?!?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And you bast stops squaws get mopped and dropped
All your fake-ass east coast props brainstormed and locked

Youse a, beat biter, a Pac style taker
I'll tell you to ya face you aint shit but a faker
Softer than Alize with a chaser
Bout to get murdered for the paper
Idi Amin approach the scene
Write a caper, like a loc, with little ceaser in a choke hold
Totin smoke, we aint no muthafuckin joke
Thug Life, niggaz betta be knowin, we approchin
in the wide open, guns smokin
no need for hopin its a battle lost, I got across
Soon as the funk was poppin off
Nigga I hit em up

Now you tell me who won
I see them, they run
They don't wanna see us
Whole Junior M.A.F.I.A. click dressin up tryin ta be us
How the fuck they gonna be the mob when we always on our job
We millionaires, killin ain't fair but somebody gotta do it
Oh yeah, Mobb Deep, you wanna fuck with us?
You little young ass motherfuckers
Don't one of you niggaz got sickle cell or somethin?
You fuckin with me nigga you fuck around
and have a seizure or a heart-attack
You better back the fuck up, fore you get smacked the fuck up
That's how we do it on our side
Any of you niggaz from New York that wanna bring it bring it
But we ain't singin, we bringin drama
Fuck you and your motherfuckin mama
We gonna kill all you motherfuckers
Now when I came out I told you it was just about Biggie
Then everybody had to open their mouth with a motherfuckin opinion
Well this how we gonna do this
Fuck Mobb Deep
Fuck Biggie
Fuck Bad Boy as a staff record label
and as a motherfuckin crew
And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy
Then fuck you too
Chino XL, fuck you too
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too
(take money)
(take money)
Alla y'all motherfuckers, fuck you die slow motherfucker
My fo'-fo' make sure all y'all kids don't grow
You motherfuckers can't be us or see us
We the motherfuckin Thug Life ridahs West side till we die!
Out here in California we warn ya we'll bomb on you motherfuckers
We do our job
You think you mob, nigga we the motherfuckin mob
Ain't nuttin but killers and the real niggaz
All you motherfuckers feel us
Our shit's going triple and four-quadruple
(take money)
You niggaz blast as our staff got guns at they
motherfuckers back, you know how it is
When we drop records they feel it
You niggaz can't feel it
We the realest, FUCK EM, we Bad Boy killin



#39 — December 22, 2003 @ 11:14AM — andrew [URL]

fuck 50 cent hes a pussy hes a snitch on murder inc so right there tells u hes a pussy ggggg gay unit

#40 — December 22, 2003 @ 11:19AM — bob [URL]

FUCK EVRYBODY DISSIN JA AND FUCK 50 CENT UR ALL FAGS IN HERE TALKIN SHIT ON JA ILL FUCK YALL UP FOR SAYIN SHIT LIKE THAT ITS MURDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#41 — December 22, 2003 @ 13:21PM — allen

ja,is hot

#42 — December 22, 2003 @ 13:25PM — allen

pacman ur wack

#43 — December 23, 2003 @ 15:53PM — JAMIE [URL]

ya man you rite pacman is wack the
fucker's gay like 50 and the gay unit
ja rule is the best

#44 — December 23, 2003 @ 16:47PM — duane

Any chance of you nice people knocking this BS off for a few days? Good grief. I apologize for writing this message in actual English.

#45 — December 23, 2003 @ 22:53PM — Death Row

YO AL U MUTHA FUCKERS 50 CENT IS GAY AND SO DOES JA. THEY BOTH TRYIN TO BE 2PAC AND EVERY1 KNOW THAT NOBODY CAN BE PAC. 2PAC IS THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME. PAC FOR LIFE.

#46 — December 23, 2003 @ 22:58PM — duane

I guess not.

#47 — December 24, 2003 @ 03:44AM — vincent

we need 2 stop this, we need peace, every rapper is good in their own right , and 50 and ja have got their own amazing talents, 2pac will forever be remebered az the greatest because he strived 2 be the greatest and that i think is what 50 and ja should do, stop this nonsence and get on reaching the top, the greats are the ones who get on with life and i think that is what these 2 amazing rappers should do have a merry xmaz and happy new year every1. peace out!!!!!

#48 — December 24, 2003 @ 16:20PM — jamie [URL]

ok yes 2pac was bad but evrey time i
come come on net its 2pac thes 2pac thet
B.I.G lived two have pep's forgot him
he was 1 of the best if not the best
raper but i do now they were and stall
are the best .....but i am a ja fan fuck
50 the guy pussy to all 50 fan's hope
you have a fucked up xmas you pussys
gggggggg gay uint
p.s dre got em's dic up hes ass rite now and he's saying fuck me fuck me that's my spot

#49 — December 25, 2003 @ 09:14AM — jamie [URL]

cheese you gay like 50 you pussy my dog
freestyle better then 50 you just a gay
pussy

#50 — December 25, 2003 @ 12:10PM — duane

God rest ye merry gentlemen.

#51 — December 25, 2003 @ 14:55PM — Tunde

What the Fuck are u people talking 'bout'. 50 ain't the realm of Ja who says 50 can stand Ja. If 50 can do what Ja has been up to then lets see. Tell 50 to start from the first level has Ja has been from Holla- Holla which happens to be Ja first track. I thought 50 first album was bought by only his Father and Brothers in the Hood (G-UNIT). But Ja first album was sold world wide I even bought a copy for myself then. He sold about 20,000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 copies. If you don't, now you know.

#52 — December 26, 2003 @ 09:15AM — tom

yous are all driblin shit bout whos the bigga bitch out of fifty and rule and countin how many times cunts have been shot like shots equal cred
Ja should be on world idol cos he is just a pop princess and fifty should learn some shit from king Em cos fifty is just a monotone cunt wit no rapping skill, he is a good writer but in this game you have to be a rapper and a writer
EM FOREVER - the only cunt who has his feet on the ground

#53 — December 27, 2003 @ 03:23AM — Igor [URL]

Hey guy! Just respect to you for what you are doing! And for you know exactly the idea what u r talking about!

#54 — December 27, 2003 @ 08:56AM — highallthetime

yo fuck ja rule fuck gotti black child fuck tah murdah and them retarded bitches and that bitch charli fuckin red head fLAT BITCH HOP OF MY MANS 50 SHIT!! R.I.P B.IG 2PAC JMJ GGGGGGG- UNIT EMINEM OBIE TRICE D12 LlOYD BANKS YOUNG BUCK FREE YAYO FREE SHYNE DIRT MCGIRT ALMOST OF PROBABTION ITS BROOKLYN

#55 — December 27, 2003 @ 10:52AM — Tom Johnson [URL]

Dude, chill . . . it's just music.

#56 — December 27, 2003 @ 12:33PM — dark man

ja and 50 are both good rapers, but this beef between them should end for the sake of the children, coz kids just wana act and do what they c on t.v and try make themselves big and macho when they should be making thier own future.Another thing is the prick that dissed ja rule in the comment area is a dick and a dum motherfuker so fuk him fuk his mum ,wait i already fuked her 2wice and his sister and lets kill IRAQIES AND KURDS and diss them all year round.ja rule 4 life and mureder i.n.c 4 life coz ja is the man so fuk all of u ..... Peace (excludin IRAQIES AND KURDS)

#57 — December 27, 2003 @ 14:03PM — khalid

tupac for life 50 is just a pussy callin him self a gangsta polease people from asia are more gangster then him yo ja mush love peace out comin from canada

#58 — December 28, 2003 @ 07:07AM — wigga

2 Pac is the gratest rapper of all time and 50 is alsow great but the little bitch Ja thinks hes so hard hes nothing but a bitch he cant rap he cant even sing FUCK MURDER INC

#59 — December 28, 2003 @ 07:14AM — wigga

JMJ, Dre, Snoop, Em, D12, Obie Trice, Busta, Young Hov, X, Nate, Warren G, Xzibit, Ice Cube, Ice T, Eeezy E are all great rappers i must agree with you Kyle Smith but i dont like Ja but i respect your apinion

#60 — December 28, 2003 @ 08:14AM — MuRd£r3r

yo u pussy claats, man dem dnt kno dat murda inc is bwaad. Boi dem dissin murda inc and tinG. Dem man dnt kno dat jarule more liver den 50, 50 raps like eminem...like a lil kid...while rule rapz so ppl can hear him....his tines r sik.....50's only tine is inda club and now he tinks he a bad man or sattin.....We murders babyyyy..... MuRdEr I. N. C.

#61 — December 28, 2003 @ 08:41AM — MuRdErEr

lissen up wigga, u bumba claat bwoi....my man dunno wtf muzik iz...gwaan on bad.....2pac is numba 1 yer dass outa da subject, 50 is last yer dass outta da subject....aint seyin shady records is crap cuz da best in der probs dre...he made 50....murder inc 4 life....aint got no gyal dat can beat voice of ma gyal ashanti and rule 2geda r sik.....rule has ppl who wanna make musik wid him....e.g. jlo who is juss fkin gr8.....so bwoi relax ya batty yer....cuz u aint redy 4 murda inc yer!

#62 — December 28, 2003 @ 11:48AM — jamie [URL]

em dont even like blak pep's ho is he
to say blak weman are hoe's he das not
have the rite and when was the last tame
you seen him with a blak woman he rolls
with dre d12 and 50 but stall dasez blak
weman and sayz they hoe's.......and when
it ko b or oj or some one blak thay make it big but when em or some like that thay kep it on the down low and u
zeno and ja are rite

-BLOOD IN MY EYE-

#63 — December 28, 2003 @ 13:47PM — _______

shit will 50 and ja stop trying to b 2pac and biggie. come on 50 ja is shiting his pants

#64 — December 29, 2003 @ 00:28AM — wigga

MuRdErEr you dont know what your talking about murder are just wanna bes 2Pac was the real deal niether 50 or Ja with be the next Pac

#65 — December 29, 2003 @ 00:33AM — wigga

MuRdErEr J.lo is a slut whos only rise to stardom was her big ass and im ready for Murder Inc i just aint impressed by them but im not saying there not talented i just cant stand the BITCHS

#66 — December 29, 2003 @ 05:40AM — jamie [URL]

WIGGA youer mums a hoe and youer dads gay

#67 — December 29, 2003 @ 06:06AM — wigga

i take it your a faggy MURDER INC follower aye bitch

#68 — December 29, 2003 @ 10:42AM — MuRdErEr

u fassy hole jamie is ryt ur a pumhole!! u dunno bout murder inc n' u aint redy either u get me.....calll jlo a slut agen and illl ride ur mum insted nxt tym janno!

#69 — December 29, 2003 @ 15:35PM — @IF KIANI

JA RULE IS A MOTHEFUCKER 50 WILL KICK HIS RAT FACED ASS DOWN!!!

#70 — December 30, 2003 @ 01:19AM — wigga

MuRdErEr WHAT YOU GONNA DO IF I CALL J.LO A SLUT NOTHING BITCH YOU AINT GONNA DO SHIT LITTLE GIRL J.LO IS A SLUT AND JA WOULD GET HIS MOTHA FUCKIN ASS KILLED 50 CENT 2 PAC 4 LIFE MOTHA FUCKER

#71 — December 30, 2003 @ 07:13AM — JAMIE [URL]

wigga youer mum's a slut now what u going DO u fag youer dad's like 50 and u like youer dad GAY u wack fucker
IT'S MURDER

#72 — December 30, 2003 @ 10:32AM — MuRdErEr

jamie knows tingZ, its murder janno, fkin bumbaclaat wigga tink ur bad man loll 2 proove it u wann battle...i freestyle and illl kik ya ass im reppin 4 ja....my guy tinks hes raggo...

i. n. c. out pussy hole..

#73 — December 30, 2003 @ 16:44PM — jm

just wait till vv2 and will see.......
INC for LIFE

#74 — December 30, 2003 @ 16:48PM — jm

50 is biggest pac wannabe....do u see ja using beatz like hail mary to get back at 50? NO.....just becuz rule lookz like pac doesnt mean hes a wannabe pac...Yo Murderer heads up wigga called u "a little girl" OHH NOOOO......
I.N.C

#75 — December 30, 2003 @ 18:40PM — howard the ThUgIsshish gangsta

ive shot 10 ppl and hav been shot5 timez , so i rank up ther right, cmon, rezpct

#76 — December 31, 2003 @ 01:38AM — jm

yah WESTSIDE....woohoo westside connection...there so gangsta.....plzzz...they dont deserve to be brought into this conversation...
INC for Life

#77 — December 31, 2003 @ 20:20PM — kurt

see,i hate it when people look at things from a commercial level,all of you who dont know,listen to any mixtape with g unit on it and youll see that 50 can do anything ja can do and hes more street than ja could ever hope to be,g unit is rollin with the game,young buck,tony yayo,lloyd banks,d12,eminem,obie trice and the list is only gonna get bigger AFTERMATH 03 AND AFTER THAT

#78 — January 1, 2004 @ 05:02AM — wigga

thank u kurt some one here had got a brain aftermarth for life

#79 — January 1, 2004 @ 06:17AM — wigga

jm has no balls west coast would fuck up Murder there bitchs litlle bald head faggot ja rule man i could fuck him up

#80 — January 1, 2004 @ 07:05AM — pumz

I just sit back and laugh when I hear some stupid fucks tryin to compare da 2
upcoming rappers 2 2-pac.pac woz and still iz da man but 50s bigger than ja.

#81 — January 1, 2004 @ 09:13AM — JAMIE [URL]

wigga stupid fuck aftermarth is as
gay as your dad and pumz yo what the
fuck is a pumz 50 is not biger then JA
IT'S FUCKEN MURDER YOU PUSSY

#82 — January 1, 2004 @ 14:14PM — MuRdErEr

yo wigga ya mums round ma criB...she gives it good, im tellin u cuz i kno u kno ;);) Ja is a murderer and hes murderin 50 so step YA BATTY BAK cuz u got beef wid 1 more murderer now...oh tell ya mum im sorry i forgot to thank her u c dat day wen she goes shes poppin out for a bit....out= my crib.....u dan no monkey bwoi!


boooom!!! gone...

#83 — January 1, 2004 @ 14:54PM — jm

LOL wigga u like talkin trash..that u cant back up.....dont talk until i tell u to talk wigga....got it? get it?...GOOD.......
INC for Life

#84 — January 1, 2004 @ 15:17PM — shaun

YOU GUYS ARE ALL STUPID!!!! THEY ARE BOTH FAKE!!! these are the kind of guys that ruin hip hop pac and biggie were good rappers, ja and 50 aren't. they both have weak rhyme skills and they rap about fake shit. you want to know what beef is look up the lyrics from BLACKSTAR the song is called "WHAT"S BEEF" that's REAL listen to tribe called quest, atmosphere, sage francis, and a few others. You guys don't know real music if you guys stick up for these two jokers

#85 — January 1, 2004 @ 15:34PM — shaun

Yeah, beef is not what Ja said to 50
Beef is more than Irv not bein here with me
When a soldier ends his life with his own gun
Beef is tryin to figure out what to tell his son
Beef is oil prices and geopolitics
Beef is Iraq, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip
Some beef is big and some beef is small
But what y'all call beef is not beef at all
Beef is real life happenin everyday
And it's realer than them songs that you get at Kay Slay

#86 — January 1, 2004 @ 18:23PM — wigga

All you mother fuckers can eat my dick i back up every thing i say bitchs if you came up againts me you would find out

#87 — January 1, 2004 @ 21:19PM — D-Block

Its music...if ya don't like it, don't listen to it and shut the fuck up you fucking suburban bitches

#88 — January 2, 2004 @ 00:19AM — Kyle Smith

Ay yo,

What a way to finish, D Block is absolutely right!! It's music, man! I bet, if any of you guys had gunnz, or you probably have 'em already, that if you went up 'gainst each other, you wouldn't even stop 'till you all die. What's that shit? Not even 50 and Ja are reachin for the gunnz yet and aimin at each other, so why would y'all get so caught up and end up worse than ja and 50 over their 'beef' ? Peace out for me, D-Block!

''When a soldier ends his life with his own gun
Beef is tryin to figure out what to tell his son
Beef is oil prices and geopolitics
Beef is Iraq, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip'' Respect Shaun - peace!

I do gotta say though, this forum is bout opinions, and I respect all yours, but in my opinion, I'm down for Murder INC, Aftermath and Interscope. No, it don't mean I ain't no Rap/Hip Hop fan, it simply means I'm versatile. Come on, deep down in your hearst, whether you down for INC, Aftermath/Interscope, you all gotta admit one thing, these artist all had top poppin hits, otherwise with all honesty, tell me why they is sellin so many millions, and why they is still around today, and will be for a long time? Just my feelin on it.

I gotta say respect back to ya Wigga, though I dont like the shit you say bout Ja and INC, I am down for what you say bout Aftermath/Interscope, and the rest is just your opinion, so I accept it as that and nothing more - peace Wigga!

Once again, I also regard pac as the biggest of 'em all, he had heart, soul and a mind. He could do hardcore, west coast, freestyle, gangsta, G funk, but he also had more important thangs on his mind, his and his peoples future - thats a real subject to rap about, and he had it down for all those on the streets, his peeps.

Still, I don't know if anyone is ever gonna be as big as Pac, doubt it, but can neva say for sure, but one thang is for definate, aint nobody as big as him 'till today. There's one thing I dont understand with all u guys. Pac was so big in this game, whats wrong with Ja and 50 wanting to be him? As long as they respect him, it cool. Pac would smile down on 'em, coz it shows that he got through to them niggz on the streets!! Dont we all grow up as kidz wannting to be like our heros? Is it wrong to dream that way? NO! So let all of 'em try and follow pacs steps, it only natural to want to be like a founder/legend coz that who you'll always see as your role model. He set the standard along with some of the guys I mentioned in my other post, and its natural for others to follow that. I bet y'all would wanna be pac, in ya hearts of hearts, when you rappin/freestylin ya shit, I bet you wanna be like many of those guys, but thats cool, coz itll make you strive for perfection, not that you, ja or 50 or anyone will ever reach that perfection to the same extent, but you will make way on raising ya own level. On the other hand, I know you also gotta be different in this game, and Ja, 50, Em, they all have something different, their onw unique style, and thats refreshing, it keeps the game flowing. No disrespect to Pac, but if there were dozens of 'em runnin around, he alone wouldnt be so impressive any more, would he? But he is, and why? Coz everyone else is a lil different, and so that makes pac unique and here to stay. I do think Ja and 50 want to follow in Pacs footsteps, but I dont think they really go beyond that, wake up every morning acting like Pac at the breakfast table, or try to be like him 24/7. I dont think its something that intentional. I feel its more like they see him as a role modelto da game, and coz they in it now, they wanna follow him, not necessarily copy him or be him. Even if they wanna be LIKE him, they dont wanna BE him, if that makes any sense. Even they know they can't ever steal his legend. They developed as rappers listening to him, like many in the hood or on the streets did and still do today. obviously they above all will tell ya how great he was, and that there'll be no more Tupacs.

You gotta admit, if Murder INC, Aftermath and Interscope go, there'll be no more rap and hip hop on the same level as today for some time to come, with all due respect to any other artist, right?


Holla!


~Kyle~



#89 — January 2, 2004 @ 00:28AM — Kyle Smith

Hey,

Listen all yo, like D-Block said, it's music, so instead of just fucking around bout it, instead of just keepin this shit going, let's hear some instead!! Coz all yo know nobody's gonna be right for sure in here. At the end of the day, all yo's is just opinions, some solid ones, but still just feelings. So instead of doin the same ol shit everyday and fucking round but this topic, I got somethin I wanted to say. Some of yo already did what Im bout to say. Listen, I wanna see what yall got. Do any of you rap? Coz if ya do, why dont ya post your raps and rhymes instead. Fuck talking bout how good or bad others are, lets hear how good you are! If you want, Id love to read ya rhymes, so post 'em or send 'em to me. Otherwise, if you got nothing better to do, keep it going.....

Tell me what yall think niggas


~Peace Out~

#90 — January 2, 2004 @ 06:32AM — wigga

Kyle Smith i must admite you have got a good point and yeah i would like some one to read my raps just so i know how good or bad they might be

#91 — January 2, 2004 @ 16:00PM — jamie [URL]

wigga i have a ponit two your mums a
hoe you gay ass fucker

#92 — January 2, 2004 @ 16:12PM — Blogcritics [URL]

~BLOOD IN MY EYE~

~BY~
JA RULE

#93 — January 2, 2004 @ 18:15PM — kelly

do not be hatin what your motherfuck c in ja rule i c a rat in him.it is 50 cent 2pac and biggie 4 life i respects them fuck ja rule fuck murder inc it's G-unit and fuck your motherfucks who een like 50

#94 — January 2, 2004 @ 18:45PM — D-Raze

yeah 50 cent, he has a lot of two syllable rhymes....oh wait no..50 Cent is the worst rapper ever...your a fan of the beats he's given not his rhyming ability....Ja Rule is the last real rapper alive........and I'm peacin you out...

-D rey

#95 — January 3, 2004 @ 03:44AM — wigga

jamie D-Raze your both little bitches man how can you think ja is the man hes not even a rapper hes a singer and a fucken crap one to you to gota stop holding each others cocks fucken faggots

#96 — January 3, 2004 @ 15:14PM — jm

wigga....u have to much time on ur handz kid...ur nothin.....ja would rip 50 in a freestyle battle n e day...n e where.... and at n e time.....ja writes his own lyrics...which are way betta then 50's....and u callin ja a singer too? then explain the chorus in the song G-unit - Smile.....whut is 50 doing? HES SINGIN..and even in 21 Questions he is singin too...so wigga think before u speak kid.......
INC for life

#97 — January 3, 2004 @ 17:08PM — shaun

both claim something they are not, and all you guys talking shit to each other over who is better are crazy!!! Grow up you guys. D-raze, I am sorry, but you are out of your mind!! Ja is dragging the rap industry into the ground. Along with 50 and chingy and nelly. No new styles no new topics rap is going to shit. Eminem and 50 used to come out with killer shit, but like all commercial rap their shit has gone stale. A few guys are keeping hip hop alive like heiroglyphics, slug, grouch, aesop rock, and some earlier mentioned rappers. Two commercial rappers still keeping hip hop alive are NAS and JAY-Z

#98 — January 3, 2004 @ 21:26PM — wigga

NAS and JAY-Z are not keeping hip hop alive you got no fucken brains man

#99 — January 4, 2004 @ 01:30AM — Ja Fleegle

Banana Splits vs The Archies????????????
Banana Splits any day.Jughead may have
some street cred that the Splits don't
and them Riverdale ho's are fine but reg
and archie are posers.The Splits on the
other hand got themselves some coolassed
roll outs and Bingo,well that bad MoFo
be droppin some seriously dope ass beats
and Snork,Fleegle and Drooper used to be
getting a serious ass whoopin'every week
from the Sour Grapes bunch but hey,they
never ran around in bulletproof vests or
talked shit about Kaptain Kool&The Kongs
or The Groovie Ghoulies for publicity.
YO, 50 Cent Get The Mail!!!


#100 — January 4, 2004 @ 23:42PM — HW Saxton Jr

What with all the cool new Hip Hop/Trip Hop/Funk
out there in record stores,clubs & on underground
radio,(that's if you're lucky enough to have some
kind of a progressive radio station where ya live)
I can't believe that anyone would waste their time
arguing the merits of these marginally talented corporate ho's.These guys are nothing more than products of the same industry/system that they're
supposedly rebelling against.I mean let's get real
peeps.I've heard more incendiary dialogue on an
episode of "Leave It To Beaver", than I have ever heard from these two jokers,fer chrissakes. There
are a ton of talented artists like The Jurassic 5,
DJ Shadow,J-Zone,Peanut Butter Wolf,The Automator,
Egon,The Poets Of Rhythm and many more that are
much better and much deserving of your time,your $
and your attention.

#101 — January 5, 2004 @ 14:17PM — J. [URL]

I truly think they should just drop it cuz this black on black crime ain't worth it. They need to just make their music and get their money. Don't worry about killin' people, just do you. Cuz I bet you guys 50 wouldn't be what his is today if he hadn't had beef wit Ja, cuz on his CDs all he talks about is Ja. Give him a break, let's she his real skillz without cappin on Ja all the time. Cuz this beef ain't gonna be over til' someone'z DEAD. I like both of their music's. And if one of them ends up dead, we ain't get to hear their music ever again, BY THEM, not by these crazy technologies. Even if 50 ends up dead. I know 50's been threw alot and in all most all his pictures he looks sad inside, and just tryin' to act hard for his reputation. Rappin' ain't worth loosin' ya life. They should really just drop it.

#102 — January 5, 2004 @ 14:20PM — J. [URL]

Even if 50 ends up DEAD. I'm really gonna miss his music. I love his songs.

#103 — January 5, 2004 @ 19:11PM — Kyle Smith

Hey,

J. Im feelin ya!

I think you're right there - let's drop this shit for the sake of Rap and Hip Hop. Come on guys, let's see some real feelings in those rappers, not just hate. Everybody from Pac to Ja and 50 have had to cry many tears, right? They have all been through a lot, and I know, if you are black, you gonna admit that the whole community has been through a lot, for that matter. So why keep this black on black thing going? If they are finally making money, respect them for it, or just don't listen you hipocrites. Coz at the end of the day, you know you rather wanna talk about 50 and Ja, you dont wanna drop the subkect coz you're all too wrapped up in boh these rappers, whether for their music, their charisma, or their commercial/real-life antics and troubles. If they attract so much attention, arent they both good?? Havent they both got that kind of appeal?? Listen, history is laughing at ppl that have cried for centuries trying to free themselves of slavery, poverty and opression from the white, only to impose the same shit on each other today, that they used to stand against in the early days. What was the point of freedom, when you not gonna live it, and take it from each other's soul now that you are finally getting it? See real people in Ja and 50, coz the way youre all going on about this, it is you that make it a commercial death for Ja and 50, Pac and biggie etc. You keep this thing going until it is past commercial and becomes real, and how? Simply by paying so much attention to it and by fuelling it! Ppl are gonna take up on this shit, they gonna realise how much attention it is drawing, and they gonna try to keep it going for the commercial success of the industry, for the dollars, for the millions, even if it ends up becoming real shit and both get killed for the money. Is that what their hard black street lives have been fought for? Is that all that its worth? Just so you got something to talk about, and emulate, something that makes you all feel like real G's, hustlas, ridahs, gangstas, just so you can be part of a feud in Rap that you are actually escalating or keeping alive? You heard Ja, he feels he has to reply to 50 coz his reputation will otherwise be ridiculed, and I bet thats why 50 keeps this shit up too. In reality they probably both wanna save the rap game and stand like real men, but people like yous dont let them. If you say fuck Rule, then cool man, just dont buy his music, dont listen to him, and if you have to, hate him in your hearts, but dont fucking pull more and more victims into it. If you think 50 is a pussy, then keep thinkin it if it makes you feel big, better and hard, but dont use that as a way of causin more hate amongst the peeps. If you dont like Ja or 50, then dont buy their music, and with all due respect to your opinions, coz you have the right to voice them, just try to make it clear that they are just that - opinions! Coz how any of yous gonna prove your claims? 50 and Ja are swimmin in their pools right now countin their dollars stacked up in piles, so how on earth can they both be shit if they have risen so far up from scrap? If they both pussies, then tell me how they both survived the streets, or livin alon with single parents in a life thats filled with crimes in the hood? If you live it, you know thats hard, if you dont, Im sure you can imagin, so end it. Ok, anyway, how about the raps? Who can put themselves against 50 and Ja and put their own raps out here into the open. Would be interesting, right? Come on, I wanna see what you got, and it aint a challenge, Im sure you guys probably rap, so Im interested.

Holla back!


~Kyle aka DD~



PS: DARKMAN, I JUST REALISED, YOU SAID SOME GOOD SHIT ABOUT BOTH 50 AND JA - THEY BOTH GOOD. AND YEAH, LETS STOP THIS BEFORE THE KIDS ON THE STREETS IMITATE AND KILL. THOUGH I GOTTA SAY, CAN IMAGINE HOW SOMEONE WITH SOME FAIR OPINIONS LIKE THAT CAN SAY SOME SHIT LIKE YOU DID BOUT IRAQIES AND KURDS! THEY INNOCENT CIVILIANS THAT DIDNT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH SADDAM OR TERRORIST, SO WHY HATE 'EM?? SEE THAT IS THE PART I DONT GET BOUT YOU, THATS WHAT MAKES ME THINK YOU IS A BITCH ASS NIGGA, A WEAK ASS MOTHER FUCKER THATS WILL GET HIS CHIN DISSEMBLED IF I EVER COME CROSS YO! ANYWAYS, RESPECT TO YOU LESS INSANE AND LESS CONTROVERSIAL THOUGHTS - PEACE ASSHOLE.

#104 — January 6, 2004 @ 01:42AM — shaun

at last some intellegent posts. none of this "your wack for liking 50" or "murder inc forever" they both cause more trouble then they are worth. i know some of of you guys really like 50 and ja, but please don't think anything they say is real. it is all to sell records. really LISTEN to the lyrics and then you you will realize 90 percent of the stuff they say is bs. I know i keep telling different artist to listen too but that is because i am trying to show what diversity in hip-hop is being over looked. some more artists to look for: absrtact rude, anticon, grouch, slug, hi-tek, and the ones i have mentioned above. their are more, but after hearing this i hope you will understand the difference between hip-hop, and the "music" that ja and 50 put out, and don't get me wrong some of their very early stuff had some real skill.

#105 — January 6, 2004 @ 02:41AM — Kyle Smith

Wigga, you can send your raps on here, or holla at me at my email address in case you dont wanna publicise ya raps. Would be cool to read through 'em.

50 & Ja all the way niggz!!

~Kyle aka DD~


PS: Shaun, where do you get all yo names from? So many artists, yo got a real archive in there. I hope I come cross one of these artists, yo got me interested. What kinda rap they doin'?

#106 — January 6, 2004 @ 13:38PM — j [URL]

Thanx for feelin what I mean.

#107 — January 6, 2004 @ 18:43PM — AnGra [URL]

Look, we all know Ja is not a real thug. He talkin' bout he gonna clap back but next thing you know that faggot out there singin' wit' Ashanti. Ja's a fake thug. 50's gangsta and people hatin' on this nigga cuz he's successful. Forget them haters 50. MURDER INC. DON'T REALLY MURDA! Why you think them fags changed their name to "THE INC.?" Wanksta punks. Ggggg-unit!!! JaRule is gay. Thugs don't try to sing. He sounds like the cookie monster. Oh, and Ashanti should get her sideburns trimmed too.

#108 — January 6, 2004 @ 19:13PM — jm

all u g-unit followas...before all yall prob liked ja rule when he was all popular and he was the greatest in the game...now yall turnin your back on him....whut happens when theres someone bigger then 50?...u gunna turn ur back on 50 too?...plzzz....and angra
ja was singin wit ashanti then clapping back....not the way u said it so think before u comment...k thanx

INC FOR LIFE

#109 — January 6, 2004 @ 19:39PM — Eric Olsen

I like the Fat Boys and Sugar Hill Gang - dey def

#110 — January 6, 2004 @ 23:44PM — duane

check dis eric o how many timez did dey wangsta punkz git deh pussy azz shot at? your wack for likin sugah ...how can you like fat boyz get sum fucken brans man

#111 — January 7, 2004 @ 00:17AM — Nick

First off, there are people here saying "50 is always saying he got shot 9 times." If you watch MTV or MuchMusic it's always the media sayin that crap, not actually fifty cent himself. Fifty has great songs on his newest album and i happen to like all of them. Back in the day (about 2 years ago) i liked Ja rule and bought his album. It was crap. I almost fell asleep to his dull beats. The only thing that kept me awake was him yelling MURDAAA.
The bottom line is who the fuck really cares. Its not gonna end like Pac and Biggie. All this drama is just interesting to read about and watch on T.V. Honestly wouldn't rap be a bit boring if no beef was around? Just like any beef after Pac and Biggie (Eminem with Christina, Ja with DMX) this beef will end and each rapper will move on, uhh i hope so.
My final statement is fuck the beef and the gangstah shit. Listen to the music. If 50 sounds better to you then get 50s cd and if Ja sounds better to you get Jas cd. If you think they both suck then Elvis and Frank Senatra each have a large selection to pick from.
GGGGGGGG UNIT

#112 — January 7, 2004 @ 09:54AM — Eric Olsen

Nick, you speak in jam science - the rest of U should consider yourselves skooled.

#113 — January 7, 2004 @ 15:54PM — LA Gangsta

First off, Ja Rule "The Fool" is not the best rapper of all time. i mean he sucks... ever since 50 came, he disappear like a lil' bitch and don't have nothing to say till he came back clapping back on 50 and other rappers. i'm from California and we all feeling 50 and G-Unit cuz their hood is like our. they been through what i been through. in LA everyone bump 50's "in da hood" , "i'm so hood" and "heat". 50 is a gangsta...ja just wanna be a thug like Pac but can't cuz he a pussy!!

ggg g-unit!

#114 — January 7, 2004 @ 18:07PM — shaun

kyle, most of the artists i have mentioned i heard about by word of mouth. If you burn music, you can find it under searches, and some cd sales shops, but that can be difficult.

#115 — January 7, 2004 @ 18:49PM — Kyle Smith

Yo, all those hatin on Ja, I got just some thangs to say...

First off, I love 50's music - it's hot, no doubt bout it. I down for 50 and I believe he had a real hard time as a kid on the streets. I feel he really is what yo seem to call street, gangsta or a thug. But think of this, comercially Ja is way better. He has got 5 top Albums out, working on what will probably be his best yet - VVV2, and has starred in numerous Movies, including 'Fast and the Furious' which was really big! So in terms of the industry as Rapper/Actor, he is ahead of 50. That doesn't mean 50 is bad, he has simply just began his story as a worldwide rapper. I'm sure soon it'll be him doin Movies and that he definately be selling many more Albums to come. But how can yall say Ja is not a rapper coz he can sing lyrics? Dont Em sing the lyrics in his chorus? Sure he does, actually he can sing quite well, but that shit dont mean he aint no rapper, coz Em can also rap very well. It be the same wit Ja! He sings some lyrics, but on many songs he has featured artists that sing the chorus for him, coz like many others, he is much more of a rapper than a singer. If he can sing lyrics though, whats bad bout that? It only makes him more versatile, being able to sing the chorus and rap the verses! Another thang, he sang duets wit Ashanti and JLo, so what? Didn't Pac do a song wit Aaliyah? And Lil Chap, if you really is Kayne West, then you know well enough that Jay Z paid his services to RnB wen he teamed up wit Beyonce. You worked wit Alicia, right? You do work wit RnB, inni? Though I dont think that means you aint belongin to rap/hip hop, coz I read the reviews bout your debut album, Dropout, and man, I gotta say, it must be one hell of a debut album. Must be poppin the shit, coz the reviews a so hot for your shit! So thats what I mean, much of rap/hip hop, at one time or another has teamed up with RnB, that dont mean Ja aint no rapper. Ja also has many harcore raps, especially some on his new album, he has some G Funk on his earlier album, 3:36, he has hip hop tracks, and he has some gangsta rap on his releases, so despite doing collaberations with Ashanti and JLo, that dont mean he aint no rapper. Coz what bout Busta and Mariah? Thats another rapper teaming up wit RnB. Yall gon tell me Pac, Hovva and Busta aint no rappers coz they did RnB collaberations? You gon tell me pac aint a rapper coz he featured K-Ci and JoJo's music on his raps? NO!
As for the street thang, you guys are probably right sayin 50 had a rougher childhood, thats clear. Even Ja himself says he hasnt had it too bad, but he did spent much of his time on the streets, and he did grow up wit no father, mother almost all the time at work, so Im sure many of yall know that kinda story from yourselves, or from guys on the street that grew up like that, and so yall should also know how hard it is. Ja aint no pussy just coz he hasnt had any high profile shootings or just coz he aint been shot nine times, coz although 50 is a miracle havin survived that shit, it is often hyped up more than it has to by the media. That dont mean it aint real, and that 50 had it easy, I aint sayin that. But yall cant say Ja is pussy coz yall havent spend every second of his life wit him, so how yall gon know that he had it easy or he didnt have it hard, or he had no beefs on the street or didnt have any incident involving shootings? Just coz the media dont get their hands to such thangs dont mean they dont exist. I love 50 and Ja, and I think we escalating this shit more than 50 and Ja themselves would really want it, deep down in their hearts. I think the millions that 50 and Ja are making and the number of albums Ja and 50 have made and will keep making, if they both stay alive, speaks for itself. If they is shit, why they sellin so much? Yall know, 1 add 1 dont make 3!! It is simple, they sellin so much, they so famous, they so successful coz they is hot and poppin! And all those that attack Ja for his height, let me have yall for a sec, coz the fact that he speaks out, and attacks other rappers lyrically that are probably nearly twice his size just goes to show that he is probably much more of a man! He dont need fuckin height, coz he got heart, and that what makes a MAN!

Anyways, peace out my niggas, respect to whatever yall wanna believe, coz the truth cant be touched by yous anyway - Ja and 50 here to stay! If yall like it, holla, and if ya dont bite it, coz aint no way any of us can do somethin bout it.

~Peace out yall~



PS: Lil Chap, you really Kayne West? I didnt know you were so involved in the industry! You must have been around for a long time, coz they all sayin good shit bout you. I think I might have to buy your album, coz it seems to be great from the reviews. Anyways, peace out - holla!


Kyle Smith
~DD~

#116 — January 7, 2004 @ 23:59PM — ---anon---

ja-rule is a fucking fag and he needs to lay off 50 coz hes a jelous fuck coz 50 a god ja rule need a bullet in the face fuck u ja-rule

#117 — January 8, 2004 @ 11:01AM — Vernita Begay

ya'll talk like you know Ja to well but your tripp'n.cuz Ja is something that you aren't.

#118 — January 8, 2004 @ 11:01AM — Vernita Begay

ya'll talk like you know Ja to well but your tripp'n,cuz Ja is something that you aren't.

#119 — January 8, 2004 @ 11:08AM — Baby Shia

why fuck'n brag 'bout sometihng that isn't you.And yeah if 2Pac was still here he would of shit on both Ja and 50 aight?but ja is a hottie.

#120 — January 9, 2004 @ 01:53AM — dasit [URL]

fuck all of uz an your bitch ass comments both them muthafukaz gay rappers they rapin for fucken new born babies think abput hw rap was bout 4 years ago thats what u call gangstars so fuk all this new rap shit thats fuken comercial BEACHHAVEN kepin it gangsted old skool fool eat a dick BLOODZ 4 LIFE (62)

#121 — January 9, 2004 @ 09:57AM — Tom Johnson [URL]

I think someone "sendin' massages" is a very generous person. Massages aren't cheap, and many people would appreciate such a generous gift.

#122 — January 9, 2004 @ 10:29AM — Raymuz

uhhhmmm... all i can say is... yah! we all know that 2pac is great but we are talking about the present not the past... so, past is past & present is the present! stop dissin' around! we all need peace out here not war! y'all know dat huh?!!! 50 cent, i think dat u r hot & u got shot 9 times & u r good... and we all know that all rapperz are good! but its MUURRRRDAAA I-N-C.! (ja! rule & reignz) peace out y'all...!

#123 — January 10, 2004 @ 17:26PM — Jon B

I need to get into this because we have a lot of fucking idiots posting comments when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Real motherfuckers. What the fuck do you consider real. Ja Rule is real. Fuck 50, I could care less. Fifty may be buffer than him, but 50 ain't shit. Ja Rule didn't start shit with 50, 50 just started it with him. Ja ain't trying to be Pac motherfuckers, get it through your gaddamn head. He idolizes Pac, as do I. Ja Rule's too gifted and skilled to need to imitate Pac. Let me clarify this. Pac is Pac, Ja is Ja. They are both gifted. We have a Pac, we don't need someone trying to be him. Stop thinking that's what Ja's doing. Ja's doing his own thing. Commend him on that. 50 was shot nine times. OK, what's your point. Being shot nine times doesn't make you an MC. Ja's words are potent, meaningful, and relatable. 50's are not. Ja's first album wasn't a flop. 50 had more than one that was. Ja's lyrical ability is off the charts. 50's is not. Ja's beats are catchy and something you bum your head to. I only heard two songs from 50 that are like that. Ja was man enough and mature enough to have a discussion with minister Farrakan. 50 WASN'T. Ja writes lyrics for other big name musicians(J.Lo, Mariah Carey, etc.) 50 doesn't. Listen to the lyrics. Ja's are complex and thought provoking. 50's are not. 50 started the beef and it's not going to end good for him. He should've kept his mouth shut. I don't care how many rapper's are against Ja, he's second to Pac on my list. And that stupid motherfucker that think's they should kill each other for the purpose of controvesy, needs to shut the fuck up. Y'all bitches get of 50's dick. You faggots. You must be gay to like that nigga. I'm out. If you want to contact me and argue on this shit, [removed] is where you can get a hold of me. Come prepared. Because unlike y'all, I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

#124 — January 10, 2004 @ 17:26PM — BLACK C

yo forell though 50 got skills,he got a gansta crew,and he got da cash so ja needs to sit back and let da real harcore niggas do there work,and even if 50 aint da best he's in da top three which is:#1-2pac,#2-B.I.G,#3-50 cent
G-G-G-G-G-unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#125 — January 11, 2004 @ 02:26AM — Raymuz

yahh...! u r right mr. jon b...!
ja rule is much cooler than 50...! pitty is juz bull****!
JA RULE HAVE IT ALL...!
the moves, the lookz, the style,
the rhyme, the wordz, the hip,
the hop, the hot, but not the NOT...!
pitty and the rest those who is
dissin' ja are juz idiotz...!
they are juz messin' around...!
coz they don't have any of those
ja's attributes...! ayt...?! so... ggggg-gay unit's fan & the rest of ggggg-gay unit watch out for
ja rule's next move... he's locked, loaded & ready to rock...! "WATCHA GONNA DO WEN THE PITTY(50CENTZ)
SHITS THE ONE(MURDER INC.)
TRYIN' TO FIGHT AND ACT LIKE A MAN... WEN YOU SAY YOU ARE... GONNA GO GET
GET UR FULL BODY VEST & UR
50 BODYGUARDZ...!" hahaha!!!
[dissin' those who diss ja!] hahaha!!!
and itz MURRRDAAA I-N-C!

#126 — January 12, 2004 @ 12:28PM — J [URL]

you talkin' bout me when u say DARKMAN?
Cuz........... I gotta know

#127 — January 12, 2004 @ 17:04PM — shaun

fake ass rappers and fake ass posts by fake motherfuckers that have no idea what hip hop is about. It is about REAL shit shit. Lil chap, no fucking way you are kanye, anyone who knows kanye west's music style know he doen't talk shit, and back up fake rappers. Kanye is the shit just like his boys, talib, mos def, and hi-tek

#128 — January 12, 2004 @ 17:08PM — Eric Olsen

I deplore falsehood in beat-driven musical representation.

#129 — January 12, 2004 @ 17:37PM — BRITTNEE

AIGHT MY COMMENT IS THAT JA RULE AND 50 CENT NEEDS TO STOP BEEFING. BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM KNOW THAT NEITHER ONE OF THEM WANTS TO GO TO JAIL. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE FONT WANT HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF .LIKE BIGGIE/TUPAC & 50 CENT/JA RULE. LOOK WHAT HAPPEN TO BOTH OF THEM THEY ENDED UP DEAD OVER A STUPID ASS ARUGUMENT. AND THEN AFTER THAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING THAT TUPAC WAS COMINN BACK!!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF SHIT IS THAT. BE FOR REAL.

#130 — January 12, 2004 @ 18:58PM — Eric Olsen

Again, a firm statement of dissatisfaction with disingenuousness in the arena of rhythmically-spoken musical entertainment.

#131 — January 12, 2004 @ 21:18PM — Jess Atkins

You people are all entirely too pathetic to reproduce. Go and lop off your testicles immediately before your offspring strangles the planets resources more than its digusting predecessor.

#132 — January 12, 2004 @ 21:30PM — Eric Olsen

A strongly worded letter indeed.

#133 — January 14, 2004 @ 06:36AM — cici

ja is a faggot and needs to look at what he is dissin, 50 is a far more better rapper and will bust ja's midget ass up. 50 is talented and no way got his fame from the back of eminem and dr dre, and they too can bust up ja by far.
so fuck u cunt.
fuck u murder inc.
fuck u ja.
.shady records. yeah eminem and 50cent mother fuckers.

#134 — January 14, 2004 @ 06:37AM — cici

ja is a faggot and needs to look at what he is dissin, 50 is a far more better rapper and will bust ja's midget ass up. 50 is talented and no way got his fame from the back of eminem and dr dre, and they too can bust up ja by far.
so fuck u cunt.
fuck u murder inc.
fuck u ja.
.shady records. yeah eminem and 50cent rule mother fuckers.

#135 — January 14, 2004 @ 06:43AM — sheryl

this beef is stupied it should jus stop its gone 2 far, and why the fuck is eminem gettin involved man, i know em will beat ja's ass down but 50 can do that alone this shit is crazy.

#136 — January 14, 2004 @ 14:32PM — its_MURDA

WHAT R U ALL ON ABOUT NONE OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED MA MAN LUDACRIS!!! HE IS THE REAL ONE KEEPING HIP HOP ALIVE AND WHAT ABOUT SNOOP!!!!50 IS A FAKE ASS WANNABE OF 2 PAC AND IS ONLY SEEN AS HARD COS HE RIDES WIV DRE AND EMINEM. SO WHAT HE GOT SHOT 9 TIMES BY JA RULE WHEN SNOOP WAS INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING HE WAS KNOWN AS A PROPER GANGSTA SO IS JA HE SHUD BE RESPECTED FOR HE IS THE REALEST GANGSTA OF ALL OF EM' BUT YOU ALL SUPPORTIN 50 MAY WANNA ACTUALLY LISTEN TO HIS LYRICS MAN ALL HE TALKS ABOUT IS WHAT HE OWNS HOW MANY BITCHES HE HAS ON HIS ARM HOW MUCH MUNY HE HAS AND .....HOW HE GOT SHOT!! HE REALLY NEEDS TO GET OVER IT AND GET SUM NEW LYRICS COS HE GOT SHOT IN '99' ITS JUST GETTING BORING NOW!! WHERAS JA'S LYRICS ACTUALLY ARE GOOD AND HAVE A MEANING SO ALL YOU 50 SUPPORTERZ FUCK YOU COS JA IS KEEPING IT REAL!!!!
~ITS MURDER INC.~

#137 — January 14, 2004 @ 15:21PM — jaruleisabigcock

Kill ja rule the little cock muncher

#138 — January 14, 2004 @ 15:44PM — duane

Sometimes I fear that I'm not given enough credibility (or "cred," as I believe you fine gentlemen call it) by others in my profession. Maybe I should get myself shot up. Uh, how would I go about that?

#139 — January 14, 2004 @ 16:07PM — Eric Olsen

Um, yes, it would appear that to be not shot up is to be shot down.

#140 — January 15, 2004 @ 18:27PM — Who Cares!!

OK, First off all of you people should learn how to write because you can't. Next, who really cares don't you people have a life instead of being on this messageboard all day talking about how cool someone is that you don't even know, when some dude down the street gets into a fight with his neighbor do you all get on messageboards all day and talk about who's better. Come off it, grow up, and get a life. Man, you guys are lame.

#141 — January 15, 2004 @ 18:31PM — Who Cares!!

Yeah, I like 50's music somewhat and Ja's somewhat but thats it. Answer me this why would I want to know more about them?

#142 — January 16, 2004 @ 13:31PM — D.J

Eminem,Luda, Chingy, DMX, and all Shady are cool. But Ja, Benzino (whoever he is, who is this guy, no one really knows), and the raceist Source magizine all suck dick.

#143 — January 17, 2004 @ 19:33PM — Nick

Oh my gosh.
All you people keep on coming and running you mouth about this shit. Like i said before "fuck the beef and the gangstah shit. Listen to the music. If 50 sounds better to you then get 50s cd and if Ja sounds better to you get Jas cd. If you think they both suck then Elvis and Frank Senatra each have a large selection to pick from."

Anyways this page is starting to piss me off. Deos anyone here realize that if you like a beat you listen to the music. If you like Ja's beats you listen to him and same with 50s. (We all know that 50 is better)....right???

Anyways who the fuck cares.
GGGGGGG Greek Unit
Thats right bitches

#144 — January 17, 2004 @ 21:25PM — g unit soldier

Ja is done right now when have you seen him number 1 on anythin fo the past year? thats right never. 50 has takin this shit over and hes here to stay ja is jus a pussy whos never seen a jail cell. he doesnt even know wut the fuck pain is hes never been shot or been into any shit. "You sing fo hoes and sound like the cookie monsta"-50cent
GGGGGG G-UNIT

#145 — January 17, 2004 @ 22:56PM — Nick

Come to think of if 2pac was around he would shit on Ja and rap with 50. Deos anyone remember the song california love that Pac did with Dre. He also did songs with Snoop and Nate Dogg. Dre is a big supporter of 50, you know the whole shady records and aftermath thing. And 50 did songs with Snoop and Nate Dogg. So that proves what? Nothing really exept for the fact that Pac and 50 would be friends and both shit of Ja and everyone on this message board will be saying "UUUUHHHHHH Ja sucks, yeah he deos" "G Unit all the way homiez"

I'm sorry to all the smart people here but the rest of ya'll are a bunch of Wankstas

GGGGGGG Greek Unit

#146 — January 17, 2004 @ 23:10PM — Nick

Yes i do hate Ja but i just don't like his music. People on this message board keep on saying "Ja never saw the inside of a jail cell." If you dont like ja come up with decent freakin arguments. If i go to a convenience store and steal a Snickers bar and a bag of chips and then go to jail for one freakin night am i now hard enough to make a freakin rap album. Any dumbass could steal something stupid and spend a night in jail. Deos that make them harder than Ja. Uh NO. Ok fucking mobsters like Tony Soprano are harder than Ja and 50 put together. if they dont go to jail it makes them look even better.

The problem with y'all wankstas is that you dont analyze anything. You stick with one stupid argument and think thats enough to convert people to G-Unit soldiers or Murder Inc., disciples. Stick your head out of that ignorant circle and look at the BIG picture for Christ sakes. Me a 16 year old Greek-Canadian kid from a little town gets it. Why can't y'all.

Anyways peace out.

GGGGGGG Greek Unit

#147 — January 18, 2004 @ 05:56AM — wigga

Nick i would have to agree with you here no one looks at the big picture yeah i hate ja rule hes a bitch who cant rap like you said if pac were here he would shit on ja with 50 ja is trying to be something no one can achive no one will be the next pac and murder inc followers are faggots that must come to turms the you all dumb shits who have no taste in music 50 CENT G-UNIT EMINEM OBI TRICE D12 DR DRE AND SNOOP 4 LIFE

#148 — January 18, 2004 @ 13:34PM — kelvin [URL]

Ja is only being himself and a mothafucker but 50 d don is only being what d hood has made him.

#149 — January 18, 2004 @ 18:56PM — shaun

50 and ja who?? you guys, no one is going to remember either one of these fake jokers in couple of years. pac would not rap with either, and neither have the lyrical skill to keep up with pac. pac was on the scene seven years STRONG. HE USED TO GO INTO THE STUDIO AND BUST OUT 3 SONG A DAY. neither of the posers can do a single song in a day

#150 — January 18, 2004 @ 22:41PM — g baller

this whole fued is startin to get old i mean i definately think ja is a lil punk ass bitch but him and 50 should jus come out and battle each other instead of hidin and makin diss tracks.

50 CENT EMINEM LLOYD BANKS TONY YAYO YOUNG BUCK DRE 4 LIFE

#151 — January 19, 2004 @ 02:17AM — wigga

shaun shut up man

#152 — January 19, 2004 @ 08:47AM — rusty blades

Ok! fuck been reading some of these fucked up posts. First off the only real MC is Em. 50 mumbles through his shit like a nine year that forgot the lines to his school play. Ja screams throuh his shit like a battered wife at the police station. Second 50 is a fuckin publicity stunt remeber the song "how to rob" his first publicity stunt, an MC um NO a big fuckin gimmick yes. As for him being shot who gives a fuck people get shot all the time he was just the receiver of a fuckin bullet for fuck sakes give it up already i got shot 9 times shoulda fuckin ducked if you ask me. Now we go to Ja when will you people understand the man makes music he produces he writes he made Ashanti a fuckin overnite fuckin star she can sing but fuck she ain't that good. Ja did to Ashanti what Em is doin to 50 pimpin his ass to make money and in the end is it not about the money. Em ain't dumb get this fuckin puppet dress him up put him out there get Dre to produce his shit fuck anyone can score wit Dre you have to agree. Eminem is great the fuckin man is a genius lyrically and business wise 50 is a puppet GGGGGGGGGGay unit are 50's puppets hellllooooooo anyone gettin this you fuckin retards. Go back through hip hop I would put anyone of these fuck up against KRS 1 and watch him rip there ass to shreds. PAC was a fuckin poet Biggie was a gifted drug dealer fuckin retards. AND IN THE END THEY ARE ALL PIMPIN YOU DUMB FUCKS CAUSE YOU TAKE THEM IDOLIZE TEM DYE YOUR FUCKIN HAIR BLONDE BUY THERE CLOTHES HANG OFF EVERYWORD THAT THEY SAY LIKE THEY BE THE ONES SUCKIN UR COCK AT NIGH FOR FUCK SAKES GET A GIRLFRIEND PUT ALL THAT ENERGY INTO HER AT LEAT YOU"LL GET AN ORGASM OUT OF IT UNLESS UR GAY AND YOU GET ONE FROM UR FAVE RAP STARS. and in the end I am ROFLMFAO cause i was fuckin bored this morning and you guys made me laugh most of you are so fukin uneducated when it comes to HIP HOP it ain't fuckin rap will smith raps you fucks get a grip and some history not jut the last five to seven years.

#153 — January 19, 2004 @ 14:06PM — Pat Sajak

some of you guys need to buy a vowel and learn to spell ....

#154 — January 19, 2004 @ 15:02PM — Nick

you people are still sayin pac will shit on both. shaun, buddy pac will only shit on ja and rap with 50 through connections. man 50 is wit dre and dre rapped with pac. do i really have to repeat myself. some people are so dam stupid.

#155 — January 19, 2004 @ 17:12PM — ---

I think the clothing line of 50 cent speaks for itself. I tried looking for Ja Rule's clothing line and couldn't find JACK SHIT!!!

#156 — January 20, 2004 @ 09:35AM — RICCA

I think that both 50 and Ja are talented rappers but I have at give it to Ja Rule cause he made a big come back and he let the G-Unit squad know that he is not a Bitch and he not and personally i would really like to say that ENIMEN IS A PUNK ASS BITCH AND ANY NIGGA BEHIND HIM SINCE HE SAID WHAT HE SAID THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE BITCHES AND ALL THAT THEN FUCK HIM TOO.

#157 — January 20, 2004 @ 22:08PM — Dwaine AKA Scooter AKA D.J.

Now that I think about it, 50 is way better than Ja. I've listened to both of them and Ja is trash can garbage. 50 is pretty good, even though I think Lloyd Banks is better than 50. Now the reason that I don't like G-Unit because they're always pickin' on someone, lookin' for beef. Plus, I don't believe everything that he(50 Cent) says as far as him boastin' and braggin'. If he was really thuggin', he wouldn't need all of these expensive bodyguards. He and his crew are still nice lyrically, but he's just a good liar bitch-guy. He and the Murder Inc. crew are never be like Biggie and Pac. That's why I listen to other talented, REAL rappers, like the Diplomats or Beanie Sigel.

#158 — January 21, 2004 @ 02:32AM — Kyle Smith

Ok, you guys really don it - now I'm gon dish out some shit!

Wigga, I respect ya bro, but you were talkin shit last time. Let me explain though, coz I ain't got nothing personally against you, you know that right? You gotta understand, where I'm coming from. What do you base you comments on bout Ja? ''He can't Rap''...yet how many copies has he sold worldwide? And I'm fuckin damn sure he didn't sell them to Pop fans! See, you guys don't understand a simple concept. It's called versatility. In order to survive and succeed at anything, we need variety in everything we do. We need to keep everyone guessing, makin them ask what is next. That is what Ja Rule does. He can sing certain lyrics, although I reckon Eminem is actually a better singer, not saying that Em ain't a rapper, coz he has some really good shit! I love Em, but lately I have really got to appreciate Ja, along with 50. Anyway, wigga, Ja can sing certain lyrics, he performs are bunch of different genres within Hip Hop/Rap, including: ''It's Your Life'' wit Shade Sheist on ''Rule 3:36'' that would cover G-Funk, ''Smokin & Ridin'' witJodie Mack and 01 on ''Pain Is Love'' that would cover the kinda easy goin fantasy West Coast Rap flava, ''Niggas & Bitches'' as well as ''Things Gon Change'' on ''Blood In My Eye'' that would cover Harcore Rap, and ''Holla Holla'' on ''Venni Vetti Vecci'' that would come under Hip Hop. Yes, you guys are right, he has also worked with RnB artist to make what sounds like a mix between both Rap and RnB, but so what. Tupac worked with K-ci and JoJo G Funk. Whos gonna tell me they ain't RnB? Nobody! Does that mean Tupac was fake? Does that mean Tupac wasn't a Rapper? Busta Rhymes with Mariah Carey, Jay-Z with Beyonce....anyone gon say they ain't rappers? Kayne West worked with Alicia Keys, yet his well respected as a long time Director of rap music. On a further note, P.Diddy worked with Britney on her latest Album ''In The Zone'', does that mean he ain't no rapper/producer of rap music? Hell no, coz he be the one who gave Biggie his first break at 'Uptown' and later together at 'Bad Boy', so beat it, coz you guys are so limited, restricted and confined in everything you say and probably do. Ja Rule can sing lyrics, he definately raps verses, he writes his music, he can express deep meanings with his lyrical potrayal of life, he works so heavily in the studios, he is one of the hardest workers around in the industry, not taking away anything from the other guys around today, but he does so much, he also performs as an actor, did a few movies, and I ain't talking bout flops, and on top of it all he has strength of character. He can put his hands up and make it clear that he knows where things have gone to far - thats what you call a man. You judge him because, why...he's short? Or maybe you judge him because deep down inside you can't content with the fact that he definately has a striking similarity to Pac on some photos. Deep down inside you don't want to admit that he reminds you of Tupac in his days, and so he go attack him, because you are not at rest with your own feelings. See, I am saying the same thing, concerning Tupac and Biggie, as all of you here, or everyone around the worl, there will never be anyone quite like Tupac and Biggie, but that is because everyone is unique and different. That doesnt mean Ja Rule or 50 Cent can't draw inspiration and determination from their icons - Pac and Big, coz thats what you do if you wanna be the best at anything, you drwa inspiration from the legends that were around before you. That dont mean he disrespects Pac or Biggie. He aint imitating any of the two, he is learning his own approach, dont you even know when you hear the difference in their voices and their delivery? Ja Rule sounds nothing like Tupac, 50 Cent sounds nothing like Ja Rule, and none of them sound anything like Biggie. Thats because they are all icons in their own unique ways. Tupac and Biggie universally acclaimed, and Ja and 50 growing everyday. How the fuck, Wigaa, and all the rest, do you know that Ja wanna be Pac? If he does, it's as a fan, and follower, like any of us would, but not in a way that he sees himself above such legends or more highly ranked in the Rap game than Pac and Biggie. When it comes down to it, he has a totally different style, and he is making money through it, like 50. I hate it when peeps be sayin he tryin to be him, or that guy tryin to be like that. How the fuck would you guys know, do you live inside Ja's and 50's feelings, that you cann read thems so precisely and come on here making your shit claims with so much conviction? Or is it just because that is what you would do, tryin to be like Pac? I think that is really the reason, coz deep down, you would do just that if you were in Ja's and 50's shoes, well they don't! They look up to, and follow, with tons of respect what Tupac and Biggie laid down as the foundation and standard of rap/hip hop, defyning its qualities, but that's it. Nothing more. You guys say one is a 'cookie monster' and the other one 'stutters and trembles' through his lyrics. Well there you have it, both have they unique and easy-to-recognise way of delivering verses. Just like Em has his 'nasal-toned' delivery. It's what makes them so cool, they all have a certain brand and approach, a unique style and delivery that makes us, the listeners, recognise them. Another Tupac and Biggie wouldn't comercially be a success, since they have already immortalised such styles. Therfore you go create your own, and that is what Ja is doing.

Anyways, peace wigga, you nigga, my bro!

Now, G Unit Soldier, you know what a hoe is? It's a female that sells her body to make money in an every day life struggle. You shit head. Ashanti is a beautiful, soft voiced, talented, RnB singer, probably the best along with Beyonce and Alicia Keys. There's a difference between Ashanti and a hoe, got it??

Ok, Nick, first off, you talking shit my bwoy! Remember the fact that Tupac was dissing Dre at the end, he was dissing Snoop at the end, he didnt have any links with these after they left Deathrow, right? So I doubt that he would pay to much homeage to Dre if he was back, or mayber he would definately respect both Dre and Snoop, coz they both tow of the illest rappers still around, along with Ja and 50 (by the way, I'm not comparing these to each toehr, I am simply grouping them into a similar category according to my opinions and my tase - got it!), but I sure doubt that he would work with either of them. So just coz Tupac worked with Dre, Snoop and Nate, don't mean he would work with them. You could say the same thing for Ja Rule simply on what you have based your comment. Look up, Tupac signed for Suge Knight, under Deathrow, well Suge seems to be tighter with Ja Rule these days than with Dre or Snoop (whom he reportedly threatened on his website once he was out of prison). That don't mean Tupac would rap with Ja Rule, does it? See, Nick, you are too easy to fool, but remember this, rap changes a lot - today friends, tomorrow enemies! Right, Pac once rapped with Dre and Snoop, but their ties we cut when Pac was still alive, long before he died, so just coz 50 now performs with Dre and Snoop dont mean Pac would. I mean, think about it. Just coz Bow Wow performed with Snoop, dont mean Tupac would, does it? Shit man, you can draw links with anyone like that, it dont mean shit, brother. Anyway, I totally respect what you said. Being in Jail dont make you hard or more of a gangsta, thug, hustler etc. An Old Lady could end up in prison if she dont pay her bills, that dont make her one to be feared, right? So I see what you saying bro. Though I gotta say, if you get arrested for your daily hustles, for thuggin on the streets, that obviously speaks for itself. But how can anyone claim that Rule hasnt been in prison before, just coz you dont hear bout it? Well he dont necessarily have to boast about it for it to have happened. Just coz he doesnt mention it doesnt mean he wasnt there. Some boast, like 50, although I would definately do the same that 50 is doing, coz it does prove physical resistance and strength if you can pull through nine shots, or maybe just that it was a blind hitman, although I doubt that. Anyways, but just coz Ja dont say anything, dont mean he wasnt in prison, and as for him being a pussy, you dont see him with as many bodyguads, openly discussing bullet proof vests, although just coz he dont say nothin bout vests, again dont mean he aint got any. However, he did go looking for 50 in New York when he heard that 50 was recording some tracks in a local studio, so that proves that Ja aint a pussy, coz although he is clearly shorter than 50, and although 50 is definately well built, and although 50 had peeps with him in that studio, Ja was still man enough to go there, and yeah, it turned into a knuckle fight. Who won? Dont really matter, and most likely it was no-one coz it must have been stopped, but remember this, Ja went looking for 50, so it goes to show that he aint a pussy, as you all seem to think. And just in case you wanna know, Ja talked about this, which has become quite a famous incident in recent times now that this beef is attracting so much media attention, so I aint making it up. Another thang, how can you say Ja doesnt know pain. Yo fucking tellin me growing up without a father, hardly seeing your mother and watching you fam split through religious issues aint hard, it aint pain? You guys are seriously trippin, niggas. I be the first to say that 50 probably had it much harder than Ja, seeing his mum get killed with his own eyes, but you cant claim Ja didnt encounter hard times or hasnt felt pain. Losing your sister as a kid is definately painful! Though, I totally respect 50 for he has had one hell of a rough upbringing, and thats why I say he definately a gangsta, thug, or hustla, whatever you wanna call it. But Ja aint no cissy either, k?

Ricca, I believe the same as you. Ja made more than enough refrences bout 50 on ''Blood In My Eye'' to bag what I think is one hell of a laid back easy going comeback straight up at 50. Simply put, Ja aint fearin no shit that 50 put on when ''Get Rich Or Die Tryin'' came out, he flossin the shit coz he just wrote back everything with twice mre spice - hah, niggas!
Though you got one thang crossed, Ricca, Em aint no racist, blacks are probably the best pals he has had in his life up to now, he commends the black culture and respects they upbringings. Thats why he has accepted Rap/Hip Hop as his way of expressing himself. Thats why he is around blacks, and they be around him.

Kelvin, yo is a bitch ass nigga. A motherfucker is one that fucks mother, simply put, duh! Ja aint fucking no middle aged mother, coz he got girls in their teens and early twenties lining up to fuck him!

J, if you posted some shit on here under the name 'Darkman', about Iraqies and Kurds, then yeah nigga, I'm talkin bout you, motherfucker! If not, then dont bother reading that post that I sent before, coz in that case it wasnt meant for you, k?.

LA Gangsta, you talking shit nigga, you are trippin, homie. Listen, first off, ja aint runnin, he came back well with a vengeance when ''Blood In my Eye'' came out recently, and obviously you gonna play 50 instead of Ja, coz Ja from New York, and you guys in the West would rather go listen to someone linked with Dre coz he used to represent the West with Pac and Snoop.


Anyways, I gotta go now, so peace out yall.


Kyle Smith
''DD''


#159 — January 21, 2004 @ 17:39PM — Sonya Tabbee

hey Guys
Man just shut the fuck up it's nothing but rap in shit its no worth any thing fuck so just get over it and quit hating because its still the same as ja and 50 are doing shit just fucking quit it out becaus your fucking anoying so don't bother
peace out

#160 — January 21, 2004 @ 20:27PM — Dwaine AKA Scooter AKA D.J.

Hey Sonya,put some fuckin' periods and commas in your comments. Do you remember your english lessons in school? Asshole. Also rap is worth a big thing if millions of people are listening to and talking about rap. Damn, I'm listenin' to Jadakiss right now. That's all I could really make out of your unorganized piece of shit. I hate when niggas do that bullshit. Stupid-ass muthafucka. Use good grammar and scream at me right here.

#161 — January 21, 2004 @ 20:47PM — shaun

you guys all make me laugh who are talking shit to one another over who is better- ja or 50. all of you spend time arguing about to so-so rappers who rap about weak ass shit-talking crap that they know very little about. you want real lyrics... DEEP lyrics... listen to mos def, talib qweili, common, erika badu, blacalicious, sage francis, and there are more. THEY talk about conflict. not this yo mama yo mama shit like the two jokes you guys are arguing about. they won't be remembered as great rappers, they will be known as pop rappers who jumped on the shit talking bandwagon to make money. sorry to break the truth to you guys. now call me a punk, pussy, or whatever, but if you really compare the music content of the rappers i talked about to these two. you will know what i am talking about

#162 — January 21, 2004 @ 23:35PM — Nick

OK OK. Kyle Smith, bro i got respect for you and for what your writing but you go to listen up. I'm not talking shit bro. If you recall i did say fuck the beef and i did say listen to Ja Rule if you like him. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone. You said that Ja could of been to jail. I said that he didnt because i know he didnt. Once in a MuchMusic interview they asked him if has been to jail. (because of the video put it on me - i think thats the name of the song). He said no. So thats why. But i did make it clear that it doesnt matter if someone went to jail or not. My little connections may have been wrong. But remember im 16. When Pac died i was like 8. How many eight year olds follow the rap game. I certainly didnt. My theory came from hearing bits and pieces of Pacs friends and enemys from other people that could of been idiots. Anyways buddy, thanks for answering me. Even if it was negative. I'm just happy that you have a brain unlike most people here thats only argument is that 50 and Ja are pussys. You know alot more than me when it comes to rap because i dont really look in to it that much. I got physics and chemistry class to worry about so rap is not on my top priority list.
Anyways peace out bro.

GGGGGGG Greek Unit

#163 — January 22, 2004 @ 15:35PM — michael

the only thing fifty ever got right was the term wanksta!

all of these guys are pathetic, guns, ho's, pimps, ice, gucci,.....

what really matters in society is forgotten about and they sing about this trivial b.s.

get a grip

love matters, lack of health care matters, poverty matters, war matters,

jacob the jeweller and the hilton sisters now they don't matter!

#164 — January 22, 2004 @ 15:51PM — shaun

thank you michael

#165 — January 22, 2004 @ 15:57PM — B-Boy Guest

I've sat back and had a good laugh at this thread. Hysterical however equally depressing. Has the state of hip-hop deteriorated so much that we have any concern as to the "beef" between 2 wack-ass MC's? Before someone goes about the lip and starts talking about album sales, hip-hop is not determined by album sales nor it's lucrative business exploitation. I'll be frank
BOTH Ja AND 50 CENT are WACK!!!! I mean WACK!!!! To compare a level of wackness, I very much enjoyed Kriss Kross's last album more then combined material from both of them. If anyone of them stepped into a cipher and tried to freestyle, they would both get ate up, quick!
So 50's been shot 9 times. OK. You got my respect as far as your tenacity to live but you'd think one of those bullets could've rattled some sense into him, that he can't rap. I swear if he was anymore monotone, I might as well be listening to the emergency broadcasting system beep. Equally annoying. And Ja or DMX's mini-me is just as bad if not worse. Or maybe it's me not being able to deal with his 2 fast 2 furious style of rap (<--- sarcasm). To crown the greatest is redundant, since hip-hop is the community that proports it and is as dynamic as the individuals who make up said community. But just as we shouldn't waste our time arguing over whose best, we should definitely NOT be wasting time arguing the bevy of benality between to equally horrid "MC's", a word I sarcastically use to describe both.

#166 — January 23, 2004 @ 07:56AM — DJ K-9

Bottom line i think 50 cent a better rapper, but every one