How about dem Dems?

Written by Hal Pawluk
Published October 01, 2003

The Dancing Democrat Wannabes' two hour debate last week (9/25/03) makes me think that the Wolfowitz-Ashcroft-Abrams [see below] coterie may be around for a while: the show wasn't all that impressive.

Kucinich, Braun, Sharpton simply aren't in it - they wouldn't beat Bush. [Though I'll bet Sharpton's reasoned performance surprised the hell out of Tucker Carlson, the Stepford-Republican on CNN's 'Crossfire'.]

Graham is probably out [I almost forgot to list him].

Lieberman keeps playing weak Bush positions, a "Baby W." with a "Democrat" sticker on his forehead [the real W. has already beaten him once so who needs a rematch?].

Leaving Gephart, Edwards, Kerry, Dean and Clark.

Gephart is the "Old Europe" of pols and overly-unctuous for my tastes.

Edwards: "nice hair" is about all I got out of the debate, but there may be more there there.

Kerry seems solid (in spite of a bit of waffling on support for invading Iraq), and has the potential to beat the incumbent. His anti-Dean-isms were a bit annoying, but it's only the run-up to the primaries so I can live with them as long as his main focus remains on policy and the country's problems.

Dean may not appear "presidential" to some but George W. certainly didn't before being elected, and Dean at least understands the major issues facing the country, proposes solutions.

Clark is the great unknown [and frankly, seems creepy to me, although I can't put my finger on why I feel that way]. He's still a novelty item so he's getting media mileage. It can go up or down from there, but here are a few factoids:

1. I did remember something about Clark since watching the debate: when he was in Kosovo, he ordered a British General to attack the Russians:

" ...when Russian paratroopers seized Pristina airfield in advance of Nato troops, General Clark told General Sir Mike Jackson, the K-For commander, to 'confront them'. General Jackson is said to have replied: 'Not unless you're prepared to see lots of Russian bodies'. The British general has also been reported as telling General Clark: 'I'm not going to start the third world war for you.' The Guardian/UK "

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#1 — October 1, 2003 @ 16:51PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

How 'bout dem Dems? None, save Kucinich, are even worth my time. Sad situation.

#2 — October 1, 2003 @ 17:00PM — Taloran

I echo Dawn's comments, but about all Republicans and Democrats (politicians, that is - not humans). I can't be bothered paying any attention whatsoever to anything any of them say.

Vote third party!

#3 — October 1, 2003 @ 17:07PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

If Nader or a worthy Green runs, this Independent likely will.

#4 — October 1, 2003 @ 17:30PM — Chris Arabia [URL]

Nat,

Whats wrong with Dean?

(this is NOT a setup, btw)

#5 — October 1, 2003 @ 18:01PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

He supports Jim Crow rather than marriage equality for all Americans. He is a pro-business centrist. And while he opposed the war in Iraq, he is pro-war in other situations.

#6 — October 1, 2003 @ 18:11PM — Chris Arabia [URL]

Jim Crow? Now HE'S a tool.

#7 — October 1, 2003 @ 18:38PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

But not as big a tool as Bill O'Reilly. :)

#8 — October 1, 2003 @ 19:29PM — Hal Pawluk [URL]

"...but about all Republicans and Democrats ... I can't be bothered paying any attention whatsoever to anything any of them say." (2)

If everyone were to take that approach, the Republicans and Democrats would likely be able to do anything they wanted to do with the country.

Oh, wait ... epiphany!

#9 — October 1, 2003 @ 20:45PM — Natalie Davis [URL]

lol

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